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Re: Mainsail
Thx, however, I think I will learn to be content with 5 feet from floor of cockpit near compainionway to bimini top.???? Ron --
On Wednesday, 18 July 2018, 9:17:54 AM GMT+8, muellerl@... [T27Owners] wrote:
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The previous owner raised the boom on Dawn (#663) 8 inches to accommodate a dodger. We find the boat sails quite well under this configuration, with no problems with controlled gybe. That said, I'm hesitant to say all would be fine with an accidental gybe under spirited conditions... Either way, 8 inches is about as far as I would go.? |
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Re: Mainsail
The previous owner raised the boom on Dawn (#663) 8 inches to accommodate a dodger. We find the boat sails quite well under this configuration, with no problems with controlled gybe. That said, I'm hesitant to say all would be fine with an accidental gybe under spirited conditions... Either way, 8 inches is about as far as I would go.?
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Re: Mainsail
开云体育A few points.... -using a boom vang and setting it up to not allow the boom to raise up high enough to catch the backstay is something that should be done on stock boats or boats that have raised booms. -the comfort and safety benefits of raising the boom far outweigh concerns about CE, etc. -a raised boom will also be less likely to hit the water on a broach, etc. - it is bad seamanship to sail dead downwind in breeze with the main up...a spinnaker with a snuffer sock or double headsail setup is more forgiving if you really needed to sail a DDW course. - unless you have replaced your rig, boom, standing rigging, etc. it would be smarter to tack your boat rather than jibe in breeze. ?Even if you need to fire up the motor and reef sails, which you should have already done..to pass through the eye of the wind...a fifty plus year out spar with old bronze hardware will eventually fail with the shockloading of a violent jibe. ? -buy a copy of Chapman's Guide to Seamanship Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2018, at 5:23 AM, RC sailor24u@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:
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Re: Mainsail
Thanks for all the response. Points well taken.? Although it does appear that the main could be hoisted another foot, it would soon be frayed on the backstay. Yes , the boom is rather long , which makes an accidental jibe very threatening !?? Looks like low bimini will remain just that !?????? Ron s/v Hygelig --
On Monday, July 16, 2018, 11:26:21 AM GMT+8, calebjess@... [T27Owners] wrote:
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Famous to some of us fans of the Tartan 27' is Hygelig, as was Russel Cobb (?).
On the subject of raising the mast Richard raised a good point.? If the boom could be lifted, as by a jibing main sail such that it struck the back stay then things could go bad quickly (if the back stay snapped).? I haven't done the trignometry to figure out how high you could raise it without it being able to strike the back stay.? I wouldn't want to lose the rig while island hopping.?
My other concern with the idea of raising your boom is the likely effect from slight sail area reduction and you would slightly raise the center of effort (CE) of the boat.? Slight changes that I am sure have been done as has also been suggested.? Googling the idea makes sense on youtube or forum entries etc.
I understand your comment about having to fabricate a low bimini, so it could clear the bottom of the boom. And if you got a new main sail cut you could have it made "X" inches shorter.
Your boat, your money, your call.
Caleb D
T27 328
-----Original Message----- From: RC sailor24u@... [T27Owners] To: Steven Kolar skolar@... [T27Owners] Sent: Sun, Jul 15, 2018 8:40 pm Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Re: Mainsail Hi Steven ,????? Famous ?? If sailing across oceans makes a boat " famous "? :-)??? However, now trying to make her suitable for island hopping .? Had to fabricate a very low bimini !? In any case , also need to buy a mainsail as mine is very tired.???????????? Ron
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On Monday, July 16, 2018, 6:11:21 AM GMT+8, Steven Kolar skolar@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:
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Hi Ron
Isn’t your T27 famous?
I’ve heard of owners raising the boom up to a foot to accommodate their height and/or dodger. The mainsail foot at the minimum will need some work or if you need a new main the loft can work out the new dimensions.
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Re: Mainsail
Famous to some of us fans of the Tartan 27' is Hygelig, as was Russel Cobb (?).
On the subject of raising the mast Richard raised a good point.? If the boom could be lifted, as by a jibing main sail such that it struck the back stay then things could go bad quickly (if the back stay snapped).? I haven't done the trignometry to figure out how high you could raise it without it being able to strike the back stay.? I wouldn't want to lose the rig while island hopping.?
My other concern with the idea of raising your boom is the likely effect from slight sail area reduction and you would slightly raise the center of effort (CE) of the boat.? Slight changes that I am sure have been done as has also been suggested.? Googling the idea makes sense on youtube or forum entries etc.
I understand your comment about having to fabricate a low bimini, so it could clear the bottom of the boom. And if you got a new main sail cut you could have it made "X" inches shorter.
Your boat, your money, your call.
Caleb D
T27 328
-----Original Message----- From: RC sailor24u@... [T27Owners] To: Steven Kolar skolar@... [T27Owners] Sent: Sun, Jul 15, 2018 8:40 pm Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Re: Mainsail Hi Steven ,????? Famous ?? If sailing across oceans makes a boat " famous "? :-)??? However, now trying to make her suitable for island hopping .? Had to fabricate a very low bimini !? In any case , also need to buy a mainsail as mine is very tired.???????????? Ron
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On Monday, July 16, 2018, 6:11:21 AM GMT+8, Steven Kolar skolar@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:
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Hi Ron
Isn’t your T27 famous?
I’ve heard of owners raising the boom up to a foot to accommodate their height and/or dodger. The mainsail foot at the minimum will need some work or if you need a new main the loft can work out the new dimensions.
Sent from my iPhone
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Hi Steven ,????? Famous ?? If sailing across oceans makes a boat " famous "? :-)??? However, now trying to make her suitable for island hopping .? Had to fabricate a very low bimini !? In any case , also need to buy a mainsail as mine is very tired.???????????? Ron --
On Monday, July 16, 2018, 6:11:21 AM GMT+8, Steven Kolar skolar@... [T27Owners] wrote:
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Hi Ron Isn’t your T27 famous? I’ve heard of owners raising the boom up to a foot to accommodate their height and/or dodger. The mainsail foot at the minimum will need some work or if you need a new main the loft can work out the new dimensions. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2018, at 3:13 PM, fred4936@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:
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On Jul 15, 2018, at 6:03 PM, Richard F Shearley rshearley@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:
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Re: Mainsail
开云体育Hi RonIsn’t your T27 famous? I’ve heard of owners raising the boom up to a foot to accommodate their height and/or dodger. The mainsail foot at the minimum will need some work or if you need a new main the loft can work out the new dimensions. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2018, at 3:13 PM, fred4936@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:
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On Jul 15, 2018, at 3:13 PM, fred4936@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:
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Re: Mainsail
Hi! I think that may be a good idea, but have not tried. I would be concerned about put more holes in the mast at a fairly high load area. I shorten the topping lift when motoring. I am very nervous sailing dead down wind, since the boom is in a nice height to whack someone good!
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Re: Lifelines
开云体育? ? -Kerry Wilkens Phone: (732) 787-0070 Fax: (732) 787-0591 ? ? From: T27Owners@... [mailto:T27Owners@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 3:15 PM To: T27Owners@... Subject: [T27Owners] Lifelines ? ? Has anyone ever considered replacing their lifelines with solid tubing?? I am thinking about doing this myself and I am curious as to other experiences. |
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Re: Lifelines
In the end, lifelines can be more of a psychological benefits and convenient hand-hold. they are usually too low and two weakly constructor or poorly installed to provide real safety. ?I would suggest an a custom Lifeline bare wire or Dyneema run from the pulpit to the push pit and secured to their shrouds at about head height so you have someplace up towards your chest to be able to grab. ?Too, of course you should have a harness and lanyard and have some inboard place to connect to: hardpoints and/ or Jack lines? fair winds, Will Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone |
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Re: Lifelines
Even on the 36' boat I saw with solid lifelines they looked big and industrial, clunky. Wire or amsteel lifelines are almost invisible and look a lot better. On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:45 PM, Dan Clint dan_c_680@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:
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