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Re: Can I borrow your chain plates?

 

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Do it! Mine looked fine but when I took off the glass I found the bolts were more than half gone. Head off a disaster.?


Marty

Marty Levenson
Registered art therapist
604-928.4033


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On Nov 16, 2018, at 2:56 PM, blevack@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:

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My boat is right near chainplate express. He is the the guy I used to fix the centerboard. But my chainplates are still enclosed in fiber glass. I have been thinking of opening them up. A can of worms perhaps

Brian SV Windfall
#275


Re: Can I borrow your chain plates?

 

My boat is right near chainplate express. He is the the guy I used to fix the centerboard. But my chainplates are still enclosed in fiber glass. I have been thinking of opening them up. A can of worms perhaps

Brian SV Windfall
#275


Re: Can I borrow your chain plates?

 

Agreed that 316 is best, but 316 will still rust slightly if the imperfections aren¡¯t polished out. My problem is that the boat is in Malaysia so it¡¯s hard to find the same quality and standards as at home. I found that I could attach a magnet to what was claimed to be stainless in some places. I gave my chain plates to the boatyard to duplicate, then quickly took them back when I saw them using a torch to cut them from a plate. I think the standard method is to use a water cooled saw and drill because heat degrades stainless. I head back in less than a month so might try to find some stock to bring with me, I think the back is 2¡± by 1/4¡± and the rest 1¡± by 1/4¡±. I don¡¯t remember any lengths though, maybe someone here can help me guess.
chainplateexpress.com was who I was hoping to use.


Re: Can I borrow your chain plates?

 

If you can get them in 316 that would be prefered


Can I borrow your chain plates?

 

Weird question, but if anyone has an old set I¡¯m needing them to send to a shop in Texas that will use them as a template for new ones.
Airport security didn¡¯t want me flying back with my set in my carry on so I had to leave them outside for some friends to pick up. Still not sure what they thought I was going to do with some pieces of stainless.
If anyone does have them and it¡¯s not too inconvenient, I can send you a flat rate box with prepaid postage labels inside, then I¡¯ll send them back when the shop is done with them.
I guess that all the chain plates should be the same, my tartan is a 1970 (around 450 I think). I have photos of the originals in the Argo album.
The latest set I¡¯m replacing after 6 years ended up pitted and a little rusty because I didn¡¯t know to have them polished to a mirror finish, so this is why I¡¯m hoping to have them done at a shop that does electro- polishing.

Thanks in advance,
Scott
[scotthoehn(at)gmail.com]


Re: River trip from Peoria

 

Jeremy, I¡¯m at Ivy club now at slip C14. Stop by and we can compare notes. And draft won¡¯t be a problem.
¡ªBill Ackerman
Duette #327


Re: River trip from Peoria

 

Looks like I am going to arrive at Peoria tomorrow. Planning for IVY. I think the draft should be ok. I'm probably at 3.5 feet right now with the centerboard up.?

Then I need figure out my plan to some how get to Grafton before the fuel dock closes for winter, get to Chicago for a concert on the 26th and for to California for? a week no later than Nov 2.?

In theory I could reach Grafton by Friday. Or I could sell the concert tickets and take a little more time.?

I know tall timber marina fuel dock closes on Oct 31st, but Grafton should be open another week or so. Maybe I just get to tall timber by Friday and then left town for a bit.

So many choices :)

- jeremy


On Thu, Oct 18, 2018, 3:54 PM ackermwi@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:
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I¡¯m planning on 8 hours per day. I have an Atomic 4,too.

Re noise, shouldn¡¯t be like a B-52. Is it cavitation get, or maybe exhaust noise? I should be in Peoria tomorrow and weekend. Let me know when you get to Peoria, or if you need any assistance before then. I recommend stopping at IVY (IL Valley Yacht Club). If you¡¯re on a budget you can anchor across from there or downtown across from city docks.

-Bill
327 Duette


Re: Diesel

 

Here is a photo tribute to Russ (I think this was circulated awhile back, or at least I came across it trying to learn more about him awhile back):


Brent
#438 S/V LOLA
Cataumet, MA


On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 2:09 AM JOHN P GARHART jgarhart@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:
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John, thank you. John

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On Oct 20, 2018, at 1:37 AM, RC sailor24u@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:

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John, As requested , here is photo of appendage on Hygelig .??? FREE to anyone who will remove them ! Boat guys here did great job on boot stripe !?? Failed to sand prior to painting !






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On Monday, October 8, 2018, 12:24:34 PM GMT+8, RC sailor24u@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:


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Yes, bought in Philippines , is still on same mooring. Yes,? the " appendage " is still there , although not pleasing to the eye. Just curious , did he ever mention why he decided to ignore electrical precautions and instead bypass main fuse panel and wire direct ? Thanx again , John .

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On Monday, October 8, 2018, 10:02:49 AM GMT+8, JOHN P GARHART jgarhart@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:


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Yes, Russ and I emailed a little in the years before?his death.?


Did you buy his boat in the Phillipines? And where is it now??


Russ put an appendage on the bow to keep breaking waves from covering the deck, is it still there? if so I'd love a photo.?


Russ probably sailed his T27-2 further than any other owner but he left little written record behind as far as I can find. john




From: T27Owners@... <T27Owners@...> on behalf of RC sailor24u@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...>
Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2018 7:24 PM
To: t27owners@...
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Diesel
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Thanks ! Appreciate the info !? Looks like you have kept up with the adventures of Russ . Wish I would have had the opportunity to meet him !????


Russ Cobb Hygelig " Appendages "

 

For all those who wanted to see these unique additions. FREE to anyone who will remove !????


????? Ron s/v Hygelig



Re: Diesel

 

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John, thank you. John

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On Oct 20, 2018, at 1:37 AM, RC sailor24u@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:

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John, As requested , here is photo of appendage on Hygelig .??? FREE to anyone who will remove them ! Boat guys here did great job on boot stripe !?? Failed to sand prior to painting !






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On Monday, October 8, 2018, 12:24:34 PM GMT+8, RC sailor24u@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:


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Yes, bought in Philippines , is still on same mooring. Yes,? the " appendage " is still there , although not pleasing to the eye. Just curious , did he ever mention why he decided to ignore electrical precautions and instead bypass main fuse panel and wire direct ? Thanx again , John .

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On Monday, October 8, 2018, 10:02:49 AM GMT+8, JOHN P GARHART jgarhart@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:


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Yes, Russ and I emailed a little in the years before?his death.?


Did you buy his boat in the Phillipines? And where is it now??


Russ put an appendage on the bow to keep breaking waves from covering the deck, is it still there? if so I'd love a photo.?


Russ probably sailed his T27-2 further than any other owner but he left little written record behind as far as I can find. john




From: T27Owners@... <T27Owners@...> on behalf of RC sailor24u@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...>
Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2018 7:24 PM
To: t27owners@...
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Diesel
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Thanks ! Appreciate the info !? Looks like you have kept up with the adventures of Russ . Wish I would have had the opportunity to meet him !????


Re: Diesel

 

John, As requested , here is photo of appendage on Hygelig .??? FREE to anyone who will remove them ! Boat guys here did great job on boot stripe !?? Failed to sand prior to painting !






--


On Monday, October 8, 2018, 12:24:34 PM GMT+8, RC sailor24u@... [T27Owners] wrote:


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Yes, bought in Philippines , is still on same mooring. Yes,? the " appendage " is still there , although not pleasing to the eye. Just curious , did he ever mention why he decided to ignore electrical precautions and instead bypass main fuse panel and wire direct ? Thanx again , John .

--


On Monday, October 8, 2018, 10:02:49 AM GMT+8, JOHN P GARHART jgarhart@... [T27Owners] wrote:


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Yes, Russ and I emailed a little in the years before?his death.?


Did you buy his boat in the Phillipines? And where is it now??


Russ put an appendage on the bow to keep breaking waves from covering the deck, is it still there? if so I'd love a photo.?


Russ probably sailed his T27-2 further than any other owner but he left little written record behind as far as I can find. john




From: T27Owners@... on behalf of RC sailor24u@... [T27Owners]
Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2018 7:24 PM
To: t27owners@...
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Diesel
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Thanks ! Appreciate the info !? Looks like you have kept up with the adventures of Russ . Wish I would have had the opportunity to meet him !????


Re: River trip from Peoria

 

I¡¯m planning on 8 hours per day. I have an Atomic 4,too.

Re noise, shouldn¡¯t be like a B-52. Is it cavitation get, or maybe exhaust noise? I should be in Peoria tomorrow and weekend. Let me know when you get to Peoria, or if you need any assistance before then. I recommend stopping at IVY (IL Valley Yacht Club). If you¡¯re on a budget you can anchor across from there or downtown across from city docks.

-Bill
327 Duette


Re: River trip from Peoria

 

How many miles per day are you planning on doing. I should be passing by your place in hull #154 in a few days. I am only looking to be underway four or five hours per day for the most part so only 20-30 nautical miles or so depending on how far it is to the next place to stop.?

My hard limit is to be at Grafton Illinois by October 31st because I need to for sure get fuel and pump out service there and they are going to start winterizing in the early November.

Also do you have a diesel or an atomic 4 engine. I have an atomic 4 and would love to cruise for a little bit in someone else's atomic 4 boat just to see if my engine and propeller sounds are normal or indicative of something wrong.?

For example is the propeller supposed to sound like I'm in a B-52 bomber. I mean it is a propeller so it would make sense.

?- Jeremy

On Oct 18, 2018 6:51 AM, "ackermwi@... [T27Owners]" <T27Owners@...> wrote:
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Planning on a river trip from Peoria IL via Tenn-Tom route to Mobile, then on to Tampa area. Anybody interested in joining me for part or all of the trip?
#327 Duette



River trip from Peoria

 

Planning on a river trip from Peoria IL via Tenn-Tom route to Mobile, then on to Tampa area. Anybody interested in joining me for part or all of the trip?
#327 Duette


Re: Window repair

 

The only thing I have to add is a light countersink in the holes will help the Butyl tape do its job.? The DYI info from compass covers everything very well.


Re: Window repair

 

I think the switch? on the 27-2 to windows that open was a huge improvement. I don't know if the holes are the same size.

Monica Malone
monicam@...


-----Original Message-----
From: William Ryan williamdryan@... [T27Owners]
To: T27Owners
Sent: Tue, Oct 9, 2018 4:19 pm
Subject: [T27Owners] Window repair

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Hi,

I'm getting some water leakage through one of the windows on my '76 Tartan 27. I'm planning to re-seat it and assume I'll find a crusty old seal or gasket under the frame. Any advice for replacing this?

Thanks
Will


Re: Window repair

 

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Butyl tape/puddy.?

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On Oct 9, 2018, at 3:19 PM, William Ryan williamdryan@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:

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Hi,

I'm getting some water leakage through one of the windows on my '76 Tartan 27. I'm planning to re-seat it and assume I'll find a crusty old seal or gasket under the frame. Any advice for replacing this?

Thanks
Will


Re: Window repair

 

Used a 1/4" stone grinding wheel to clean the corrosion out of the inside
of the aluminum =|

Can't find in my notes the size of the window glazing (rubber between
the glass/plastic and aluminum frame). Old stuff has hard, brittle,
and the channel full of algae.

Bytul rubber.

Being away has forced me to work on other projects.

-s

On 0, "rick Gengarelly rickg1952@... [T27Owners]" <T27Owners@...> wrote:


I have a 1965 T 27 hull #130 and there were no gaskets. I rebeded mine
with butel tape. I unassembled the portal; outside aluminum extrusion,
inside extrusion, barrel nuts and lense. I put the outside extrusion on my
picnic table to work and filled the boatside of the aluminum with putty
from the butel tape with the outside portion of the barrel nuts in place
bedding around them. Hung the lenses in place with masking tape on the
inside of the boat. Put the outside extrusion in place with the barrel
nuts going through the holes around the opening. Put the inside extrusion
on the inside with the other side of the barrel nuts meeting their counter
parts on the outside and tightened them all going around a few times to
make sure of evenness. I removed the tape leaving the unseen little bit
under the inside extrusion. Two years; no leaks. If you use something like
black G/E silicone from a tube which is fine if not better, leave a half
turn on the barrel nuts to be tightened after cure for a good seal. You
don't do that with the butel ( bad spelling I know ) tape because it
doesn't cure. It stays soft. Hope this helped.
Rick Gengarelly
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 4:19 PM William Ryan [1]williamdryan@...
[T27Owners] <[2]T27Owners@...> wrote:

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Hi,
I'm getting some water leakage through one of the windows on my '76
Tartan 27. I'm planning to re-seat it and assume I'll find a crusty old
seal or gasket under the frame. Any advice for replacing this?
Thanks
Will



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Re: Window repair

 

And here is the link to the website Warren mentioned:
https://shop.marinehowto.com/t/bed-it-tape

Every boater should have a look at the projects shown there.

Caleb
T27 #328



-----Original Message-----
From: Wrsteinesq wrsteinesq@... [T27Owners]
To: T27Owners <T27Owners@...>
Sent: Tue, Oct 9, 2018 4:46 pm
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Window repair



For those not familiar with it, ¡®butyl¡¯ as used here isn¡¯t (to my knowledge, anyway) something that comes in a tube. ?Rather, it¡¯s a tape that comes on a roll. ? ?I¡¯ve used a couple of different kinds but the best I¡¯ve used comes from Compass Marine/MaineSail. ? BTW the Compass Marine/MaineSail site is a phenomenal resource for how to do a lot of things, the right way. ? Warren Stein

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On Oct 9, 2018, at 4:32 PM, calebjess@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:

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And that goopy sealant that is (still liquid) is a form of Butyl - it never hardens.

It makes a wonderful sealant for whatever window material you choose.





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From: Marty Levenson martylev@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...>
To: T27Owners <T27Owners@...>
Sent: Tue, Oct 9, 2018 4:25 pm
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Window repair



We did that 10 years ago. Went to lexan, I think as they were super crazed. Tip: we found kerosene was the solvent that dissolved the (still liquid!) factory sealant.?


Marty

Marty Levenson
Poseidon?

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On Oct 9, 2018, at 1:13 PM, William Ryan williamdryan@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:

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Hi,

I'm getting some water leakage through one of the windows on my '76 Tartan 27. I'm planning to re-seat it and assume I'll find a crusty old seal or gasket under the frame. Any advice for replacing this?

Thanks
Will





Re: Window repair

 

I have a 1965 T 27 hull #130 and there were no gaskets. I rebeded mine with butel tape. I unassembled the portal; outside aluminum extrusion, inside extrusion, barrel nuts and lense. I put the outside extrusion on my picnic table to work and filled the boatside of the aluminum with putty from the butel tape with the outside portion of the barrel nuts in place bedding around them. Hung the lenses in place with masking tape on the inside of the boat. Put the outside extrusion in place with the barrel nuts going through the holes around the opening. Put the inside extrusion on the inside with the other side of the barrel nuts meeting their counter parts on the outside and tightened them all going around a few times to make sure of evenness. I removed the tape leaving the unseen little bit under the inside extrusion. Two years; no leaks. If you use something like black G/E silicone from a tube which is fine if not better, leave a half turn on the barrel nuts to be tightened after cure for a good seal. You don't do that with the butel ( bad spelling I know ) tape because it doesn't cure. It stays soft. Hope this helped.

Rick Gengarelly

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 4:19 PM William Ryan williamdryan@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:
?

Hi,

I'm getting some water leakage through one of the windows on my '76 Tartan 27. I'm planning to re-seat it and assume I'll find a crusty old seal or gasket under the frame. Any advice for replacing this?

Thanks
Will