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Re: Bilge Pump
tartan27plee
That is what I have on mine "whale super sub 500". I worked at SAIL magazine and we
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started this pump, it's great, small, and affordable. Paul --- In T27Owners@..., "chrisd4700" <chrisd4700@...> wrote:
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Re: Bilge Pump
If I recall, I have a 500 Rule that checks for water every ten mins.
or so. Hose runs out the transom a little higher than the exhaust. Steve K. #196 --- In T27Owners@..., "chrisd4700" <chrisd4700@...> wrote: side of the centerboard trunk... what are you using as your bilge pump.from the boat.in there and around motor. |
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Re: Deck Recoring Project
You go Bob !!!
Steve K. --- In T27Owners@..., "Bob" <screeminbob@...> wrote: It has a bit of horizontal curve to it, sloping from the center out tobuckets full of wet sand worked very nicely in conjunction with my paintSo I got the cockpit floor and this deck area with one full gallon ofyour freshly recored deck and it doesn't squish! Today I am going to cutand offitted today. The deck is a wierd composition. Basically 3 types Thedeck laminate. One is straight fiberglass, the second isfiberglassedwith end grain balsa, and the third is fiberglass with plywood. andnon cored is obvious as it is thinner than the rest of the deck thatmakes a nice solid sound when tapped with a plastic hammer. Thebalsaand plywood cored deck is indistinguishable from each other butmakea more hollow thunk (especially where it's mush). I am finding plywood.some areas that I expect to be all balsa is both balsa and theI've been lucky so far that non of the plywood really needs restcompanion way before the icebox hatch but extends all the way totheside deck on starboard side. I cut all the way over, but had IknownI would have saved the little bit of side deck to do with the ofthethe side deck. Again I expected balsa but instead the bit of side cabin. I also imagine that as the years went on the actual coringbefore |
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Bilge Pump
Gents,
I've been meaning to ask... with such a narrow bilge area on each side of the centerboard trunk... what are you using as your bilge pump. Electric Bilge pump. I have a manual that has a hose down into that area but I want to hook up an electric one to work while I'm away from the boat. I have a tiny leak around my rudder post and it only lets in an inch or two over a heavy rain, but I don't want water / moisture sitting in there and around motor. the whale super sub 500 has a great review and seems slim enough to fit the area. Thoughts? Thanks C #466 |
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Re: Coring
YA...YA...YA...
I should have reread the entire topic to get hints to my questions. It seems all our boats might be a little different, just hopeing that "Ray" kind of did things the same way on most boats. I had the pleasure of preping my boat for my first launch in his Fairport Harbor boat yard. I remember he treated me like one of his workers and walking by would stop and comment on what I was doing right or wrong, mostly wrong, great guy, a "my way or the highway" type, must be why we still have our boats where others are junk or sunk ! I wish I could have talked more T27 tid bits with him. Steve K. --- In T27Owners@..., "Steve" <skolar@...> wrote: here or cored here or there, I would like to be able to give soundadvice, thats all.don't have to tap the boat rebuild fund I plan on doing it this winter.coreing and what material was it? |
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Re: Coring
To Caleb and Adam
I'm not pressing the issue but when I or we or somebody starts recoreing the roof of the cabin and asks is this solid fiberglass here or cored here or there, I would like to be able to give sound advice, thats all. Actually I'll need the advice. I have yet to cut open anything on my boat, but if the wife and I don't have to tap the boat rebuild fund I plan on doing it this winter. So I can dream about fiberglass work, is the "area" LOL! around the mast and hatch over the v-berth and it's side walls solid glass or cored ? Is the main cabin roof and side walls solid or cored ? If any of the above answers are cored, what thickness is the coreing and what material was it? If my memory serves me (not) when rebedding the ports years back I really don't remember coreing in the side walls. Steve K. |
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Re: Deck Recoring Project
That's the "bridge deck," and on our boats, unlike some others, it keeps water taken on in the cockpit from flowing below and doing bad things like sinking us.?? My hat's off to all you brave re-corers.
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From: Bob To: T27Owners@... Sent: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 7:36 am Subject: [T27Owners] Re: Deck Recoring Project I got the "deck area in front of (aft) the companion way" (Alright
all you Nautical Lexicon Ponderers, whats it called?) epoxied in yesterday. I had my shade and fan all set this time. went much more smoothly. One thing to consider is this piece of deck is not flat. It has a bit of horizontal curve to it, sloping from the center out to the toe rail. I noticed it befor I started so was prepared for it. The 1/2" marine ply took the curve no problem but I did have to add some good weight to the ends to hold them down. Two 5 gallon buckets full of wet sand worked very nicely in conjunction with my paint cans. One edge was slightly higher than I wanted, but will fair out just fine when I do the seams. I finished a full gallon of west system epoxy right on the last needed batch. How's that for close? So I got the cockpit floor and this deck area with one full gallon of 105/206. It's makes one warm and fuzzy all over when you step on your freshly recored deck and it doesn't squish! Today I am going to cut into the side deck. I'll let you know how it goes, stay tuned, same Tartan channel, same Tartan time. Bob SV Gabba Hey 1964 #90 --- In T27Owners@yahoogrou > > I added afew more pictures of my progress. Got new plywood cut and > fitted today. The deck is a wierd composition. Basically 3 types of > deck laminate. One is straight fiberglass, the second is fiberglassed > with end grain balsa, and the third is fiberglass with plywood. The > non cored is obvious as it is thinner than the rest of the deck and > makes a nice solid sound when tapped with a plastic hammer. The balsa > and plywood cored deck is indistinguishable from each other but make > a more hollow thunk (especially where it's mush). I am finding that > some areas that I expect to be all balsa is both balsa and plywood. > I've been lucky so far that non of the plywood really needs > replacing. But I have ended up doing the ply areas that I thought > were balsa. The area in front of the companion way (or aft of the > companionway) is a mix of both. The coring stops at the edge of the > companion way before the icebox hatch but extends all the way to the > side deck on starboard side. I cut all the way over, but had I known > I would have saved the little bit of side deck to do with the rest of > the side deck. Again I expected balsa but instead the bit of side > deck is ply. I'm sure there is balsa further up though next to the > cabin. I also imagine that as the years went on the actual coring > plan probably changed. so one might want to drill for a smaple before > cutting specific areas. In the end it will all be solid and won't > really matter I guess. > Bob > SV Gabba Hey > 1964 #90 > Looking for spoilers and reviews on the new TV season? . |
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Re: Deck Recoring Project
Bob
I got the "deck area in front of (aft) the companion way" (Alright
all you Nautical Lexicon Ponderers, whats it called?) epoxied in yesterday. I had my shade and fan all set this time. went much more smoothly. One thing to consider is this piece of deck is not flat. It has a bit of horizontal curve to it, sloping from the center out to the toe rail. I noticed it befor I started so was prepared for it. The 1/2" marine ply took the curve no problem but I did have to add some good weight to the ends to hold them down. Two 5 gallon buckets full of wet sand worked very nicely in conjunction with my paint cans. One edge was slightly higher than I wanted, but will fair out just fine when I do the seams. I finished a full gallon of west system epoxy right on the last needed batch. How's that for close? So I got the cockpit floor and this deck area with one full gallon of 105/206. It's makes one warm and fuzzy all over when you step on your freshly recored deck and it doesn't squish! Today I am going to cut into the side deck. I'll let you know how it goes, stay tuned, same Tartan channel, same Tartan time. Bob SV Gabba Hey 1964 #90 --- In T27Owners@..., "Bob" <screeminbob@...> wrote: fiberglassed with end grain balsa, and the third is fiberglass with plywood. Thebalsa and plywood cored deck is indistinguishable from each other butmake a more hollow thunk (especially where it's mush). I am finding thatthe side deck on starboard side. I cut all the way over, but had Iknown I would have saved the little bit of side deck to do with the restof the side deck. Again I expected balsa but instead the bit of sidebefore cutting specific areas. In the end it will all be solid and won't |
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Re: Coring
I thought Adam categorized it nicely.
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I would say that the 'dog house' is any part of the boat that sticks up above its deck level. You can call it a coach roof, cabin top or whatever but it is still a dog house sticking out into the wind. Tristan Jones always used the term 'dog house' which seems to have linked it firmly to the lexicon of sailing but we are talking about any part of the boat above deck that will stick up into the wind and the waves (as I understand it). If you choose to call it something else there is no great punishment for that. Coach roof, cabin top, dog house, yada, yada, kinda. The raised portion of the cabin on the deck of a boat. Some may disagree. Enjoy what is left of the sailing season to those up north. Caleb D. #328 Odalisque, 1967 -----Original Message-----
From: Steve <skolar@...> To: T27Owners@... Sent: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:46 pm Subject: [T27Owners] Re: Coring Adam To add to the confusion I now seam to recall that "being in the dog house" is derived from the nautical term of a small box on the fore deck of the clipper ships to shield sailors from breaking waves while on fore deck duties, I assume a not so pleasent station of duty in those days. So I'm not sure if this is any help but it's clear as mud to me now. But I assume that your line of thinking and my thoughts agree. The lower of the raised area with v-berth and head=doghouse and the higher of the raised area=cabin top. steve k. ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: Coring
Adam
To add to the confusion I now seam to recall that "being in the dog house" is derived from the nautical term of a small box on the fore deck of the clipper ships to shield sailors from breaking waves while on fore deck duties, I assume a not so pleasent station of duty in those days. So I'm not sure if this is any help but it's clear as mud to me now. But I assume that your line of thinking and my thoughts agree. The lower of the raised area with v-berth and head=doghouse and the higher of the raised area=cabin top. steve k. |
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Re: Coring
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Re: Coring
Hello all
Well you learn something everyday and I hope I learn something today. Do I understand this correctly that the dog house is the first raised section aft the foredeck over the v-berth with the hole for the mast and the cabin roof is the next higher raised section that is over the...cabin ? Questions to follow. Steve K. |
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Coring
thanks Gents.
I appreciate the input. I'll be getting into all of this coming this spring. Your pictures and discoveries as you all move along are invaluable. What a great thing to have such a resource huh? And to whomever posted the photo of my boat as the home page... I say thank you. I should have color corrected it before I put it up... you should never cut corners in the interest of time... I should know this by now. Just wanted to give props to such a cool boat and a good bunch of folks. c #466 |
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Re: Coring
Bob
I'm using 1/2" marine ply with a layer of chop mat above and below.
I'll be getting to the side decks next, probably next week. I'll let you know what my side deck coring makeup is, but as mentioned already it could be different than others. Adam has a good suggestion on checking. You can also usually tell by smacking it with a plastic hammer, but drilling will tell you your core material and condition as well. Bob SV Gabba Hey 1964 #90 --- In T27Owners@..., "chrisd4700" <chrisd4700@...> wrote: cored? I've seen some folks with drilled out sections around the dorade boxes |
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Re: Coring
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Re: Coring
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Coring
Hey Bob,
Nice job. Do you or anyone else know if the actual dog house is cored? I've seen some folks with drilled out sections around the dorade boxes and I was under the impression that the dog house was all solid fiberglass. I have to do my side deck on starboard side by the salon windows. Soft area there. Nice to see that they used plywood and it's held up. What thickness ply are you using? 1/4 inch? Thanks c 466 |
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Re: Deck Recoring Project
ksmith4312
--- In T27Owners@..., "Bob" <screeminbob@...> wrote:
fiberglassed with end grain balsa, and the third is fiberglass with plywood. Thebalsa and plywood cored deck is indistinguishable from each other butmake a more hollow thunk (especially where it's mush). I am finding thatthe side deck on starboard side. I cut all the way over, but had Iknown I would have saved the little bit of side deck to do with the restof the side deck. Again I expected balsa but instead the bit of sidebefore cutting specific areas. In the end it will all be solid and won'tWOW great information. I have some bad spots further up on the starboard approx at the v-berth portlight area (side deck?) I am not sure if it has to do with the stanichon or the chainplates. But your pics give me courage. Nice thing about LA is the boat is handy. |
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