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Re: Express Wind - Sunfish Clone

Wayne
 

Adi,

Take a look in the PHOTOS section at the "Other Fish" folder. Check
out the Barracuda photos. Does this look like your boat by any chance?


Wayne




--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "Aditya Garg" <gaajar@y...>
wrote:
Thanks Wayne,
This is certainly useful. I had come across something much more
abbreviated along similar lines. This should certainly help.

Adi

--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "Wayne Carney"
<wcarney@f...>
wrote:
Hi Adi,

I was able to pull up this record from the

U.S.Coast Guard Manufacturers Identification Code (MIC) Database

Hope it helps,

Wayne






MIC: GKD Status: Out of Business

Company: EXPRESS GLASS MFG

Company Official: GARRETSON, E. R.

Parent Company:

Parent MIC:

Address: PO BOX 463

City: BELHAVEN

State: NC Zip: 27810

Country: Phone: 9124376797

Fax:

In Business: 12/7/1980 12:00:00 AM

Out of Business: 2/22/1982 12:00:00 AM

Date Modified: 5/31/1990 12:00:00 AM

Type: Outboards, Open Motorboats, Jon Boats,
Sailboats, (with or without engine) Catamarans, Trimarans

Additional Address:

Comments: 2/84: PO BOX 1154, DARIEN, GA 31305

-7TH DISTRICT-OUT OF BUS








-----Original Message-----
From: Aditya Garg [mailto:gaajar@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 10:05 AM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Re: Express Wind - Sunfish Clone


Oops,
A few corrections. Here is another attempt at the diagram.

<pre>

-------- ------------------
| | | || |
| | | -----|| |
| | | = | --- || |
| | | -----|| |
| | | || |
-------- ------------------
Sunfish Exp. Wind Storage

= is the self bailer

</pre>

There are actually a more differences from the Sunfish. The
deck
has
molded in non-slip surfaces. The splash rail is molded in and
is
much
closer to the mast step. 2 Hiking/toe straps are installed on
the
walls of the cockpit. The dagger board is GRP with a wooden
head.
There is no line attached to it. It stays up because of carpet
friction. The rudder appears to be different from the Sunfish
rudders.
It is also GRP. I'm not sure yet if it is a kick up rudder or
not.
Tiller is Aluminium. I am not familiar with the Sunfish bottom,
but
this boat is smooth kind of like a scow. The boat appears
heavier
than 150 lb. It might be because of water soaked up by the foam
blocks
in the hull. The bow is not pointed like the Sunfish, but is
almost
as
if someone chopped off the nose on the Sunfish and closed the
hole
flat. There are no cleats on the hull (which kind of concerns
me).
There is a drain plug in the transom.

Some of my terminology may not be accurate. I am a newbie and I
haven't yet sailed much.
Re: Express Wind - Sunfish Clone

 

Thanks Wayne,
This is certainly useful. I had come across something much more
abbreviated along similar lines. This should certainly help.

Adi

--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "Wayne Carney" <wcarney@f...>
wrote:
Hi Adi,

I was able to pull up this record from the

U.S.Coast Guard Manufacturers Identification Code (MIC) Database

Hope it helps,

Wayne






MIC: GKD Status: Out of Business

Company: EXPRESS GLASS MFG

Company Official: GARRETSON, E. R.

Parent Company:

Parent MIC:

Address: PO BOX 463

City: BELHAVEN

State: NC Zip: 27810

Country: Phone: 9124376797

Fax:

In Business: 12/7/1980 12:00:00 AM

Out of Business: 2/22/1982 12:00:00 AM

Date Modified: 5/31/1990 12:00:00 AM

Type: Outboards, Open Motorboats, Jon Boats,
Sailboats, (with or without engine) Catamarans, Trimarans

Additional Address:

Comments: 2/84: PO BOX 1154, DARIEN, GA 31305

-7TH DISTRICT-OUT OF BUS








-----Original Message-----
From: Aditya Garg [mailto:gaajar@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 10:05 AM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Re: Express Wind - Sunfish Clone


Oops,
A few corrections. Here is another attempt at the diagram.

<pre>

-------- ------------------
| | | || |
| | | -----|| |
| | | = | --- || |
| | | -----|| |
| | | || |
-------- ------------------
Sunfish Exp. Wind Storage

= is the self bailer

</pre>

There are actually a more differences from the Sunfish. The deck
has
molded in non-slip surfaces. The splash rail is molded in and is
much
closer to the mast step. 2 Hiking/toe straps are installed on the
walls of the cockpit. The dagger board is GRP with a wooden head.
There is no line attached to it. It stays up because of carpet
friction. The rudder appears to be different from the Sunfish
rudders.
It is also GRP. I'm not sure yet if it is a kick up rudder or not.
Tiller is Aluminium. I am not familiar with the Sunfish bottom,
but
this boat is smooth kind of like a scow. The boat appears heavier
than 150 lb. It might be because of water soaked up by the foam
blocks
in the hull. The bow is not pointed like the Sunfish, but is
almost
as
if someone chopped off the nose on the Sunfish and closed the hole
flat. There are no cleats on the hull (which kind of concerns me).
There is a drain plug in the transom.

Some of my terminology may not be accurate. I am a newbie and I
haven't yet sailed much.
Re: Express Wind - Sunfish Clone

Wayne Carney
 

Hi Adi,

I was able to pull up this record from the

U.S.Coast Guard Manufacturers Identification Code (MIC) Database

Hope it helps,

Wayne






MIC: GKD Status: Out of Business

Company: EXPRESS GLASS MFG

Company Official: GARRETSON, E. R.

Parent Company:

Parent MIC:

Address: PO BOX 463

City: BELHAVEN

State: NC Zip: 27810

Country: Phone: 9124376797

Fax:

In Business: 12/7/1980 12:00:00 AM

Out of Business: 2/22/1982 12:00:00 AM

Date Modified: 5/31/1990 12:00:00 AM

Type: Outboards, Open Motorboats, Jon Boats,
Sailboats, (with or without engine) Catamarans, Trimarans

Additional Address:

Comments: 2/84: PO BOX 1154, DARIEN, GA 31305

-7TH DISTRICT-OUT OF BUS

-----Original Message-----
From: Aditya Garg [mailto:gaajar@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 10:05 AM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Re: Express Wind - Sunfish Clone


Oops,
A few corrections. Here is another attempt at the diagram.

<pre>

-------- ------------------
| | | || |
| | | -----|| |
| | | = | --- || |
| | | -----|| |
| | | || |
-------- ------------------
Sunfish Exp. Wind Storage

= is the self bailer

</pre>

There are actually a more differences from the Sunfish. The deck has
molded in non-slip surfaces. The splash rail is molded in and is much
closer to the mast step. 2 Hiking/toe straps are installed on the
walls of the cockpit. The dagger board is GRP with a wooden head.
There is no line attached to it. It stays up because of carpet
friction. The rudder appears to be different from the Sunfish
rudders.
It is also GRP. I'm not sure yet if it is a kick up rudder or not.
Tiller is Aluminium. I am not familiar with the Sunfish bottom, but
this boat is smooth kind of like a scow. The boat appears heavier
than 150 lb. It might be because of water soaked up by the foam
blocks
in the hull. The bow is not pointed like the Sunfish, but is almost
as
if someone chopped off the nose on the Sunfish and closed the hole
flat. There are no cleats on the hull (which kind of concerns me).
There is a drain plug in the transom.

Some of my terminology may not be accurate. I am a newbie and I
haven't yet sailed much.
Re: Express Wind - Sunfish Clone

 

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..|........|........|...........||.....|
..|........|........|......-----||.....|
..|........|........|.=...|.---.||.....|
..|........|........|......-----||.....|
..|........|........|...........||.....|
...--------..........------------------
...Sunfish............Exp. Wind .Storage
.
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Re: Express Wind - Sunfish Clone

 

Oops,
A few corrections. Here is another attempt at the diagram.

<pre>

-------- ------------------
| | | || |
| | | -----|| |
| | | = | --- || |
| | | -----|| |
| | | || |
-------- ------------------
Sunfish Exp. Wind Storage

= is the self bailer

</pre>

There are actually a more differences from the Sunfish. The deck has
molded in non-slip surfaces. The splash rail is molded in and is much
closer to the mast step. 2 Hiking/toe straps are installed on the
walls of the cockpit. The dagger board is GRP with a wooden head.
There is no line attached to it. It stays up because of carpet
friction. The rudder appears to be different from the Sunfish
rudders.
It is also GRP. I'm not sure yet if it is a kick up rudder or not.
Tiller is Aluminium. I am not familiar with the Sunfish bottom, but
this boat is smooth kind of like a scow. The boat appears heavier
than 150 lb. It might be because of water soaked up by the foam
blocks
in the hull. The bow is not pointed like the Sunfish, but is almost
as
if someone chopped off the nose on the Sunfish and closed the hole
flat. There are no cleats on the hull (which kind of concerns me).
There is a drain plug in the transom.

Some of my terminology may not be accurate. I am a newbie and I
haven't yet sailed much.

--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "Aditya Garg" <gaajar@y...>
wrote:
Hi Wayne,
Thanks for the offer. I will try and post some photos as well. It
appears to be similar to the Conqueror with a larger (than sunfish)
cockpit that surrounds the daggerboard boot. It also has what
appears
to be a storage area aft of the cockpit. Sunfish vs Express Wind
cockpits are shown below:

-------- ------------------
| | | || |
| | | -----|| |
| | | -----|| |
| | | || |
-------- ------------------
Sunfish Exp. Wind Storage

The mast appears to be 12' instead of 10'. The bow is like a flat
V
from a heads on view unlike the sunfish which has a pointed bow.
Everything else appears identical to the sunfish.

I don't have a specific question at this time, but I'm trying to
find
out specifications and the history (including age) of this boat. It
was manufactured by Garretson and Associates, Darien, Georgia.

Cheers,
Adi

--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "Wayne Carney"
<wcarney@f...>
wrote:
Hello Adi,

Welcome to the group.

I am not familiar with the Express, but I'm willing to help where
I
can.
Maybe someone else has heard of this model boat and will chime in
as
well.

What sort of questions do you have?

Can you post some pictures in the PHOTOS section so we can see
the
boat?


Wayne




-----Original Message-----
From: Aditya Garg [mailto:gaajar@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 4:23 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Express Wind - Sunfish Clone


I'm looking for information on a Sunfish lookalike called the
Express
Wind which I have just acquired. I am a newbie sailor and have
not
found any reference to this boat anywhere.

Thanks for all help.
Adi
Re: Express Wind - Sunfish Clone

 

Hi Wayne,
Thanks for the offer. I will try and post some photos as well. It
appears to be similar to the Conqueror with a larger (than sunfish)
cockpit that surrounds the daggerboard boot. It also has what appears
to be a storage area aft of the cockpit. Sunfish vs Express Wind
cockpits are shown below:

-------- ------------------
| | | || |
| | | -----|| |
| | | -----|| |
| | | || |
-------- ------------------
Sunfish Exp. Wind Storage

The mast appears to be 12' instead of 10'. The bow is like a flat V
from a heads on view unlike the sunfish which has a pointed bow.
Everything else appears identical to the sunfish.

I don't have a specific question at this time, but I'm trying to find
out specifications and the history (including age) of this boat. It
was manufactured by Garretson and Associates, Darien, Georgia.

Cheers,
Adi

--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "Wayne Carney" <wcarney@f...>
wrote:
Hello Adi,

Welcome to the group.

I am not familiar with the Express, but I'm willing to help where I
can.
Maybe someone else has heard of this model boat and will chime in
as
well.

What sort of questions do you have?

Can you post some pictures in the PHOTOS section so we can see the
boat?


Wayne




-----Original Message-----
From: Aditya Garg [mailto:gaajar@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 4:23 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Express Wind - Sunfish Clone


I'm looking for information on a Sunfish lookalike called the
Express
Wind which I have just acquired. I am a newbie sailor and have not
found any reference to this boat anywhere.

Thanks for all help.
Adi
Re: Express Wind - Sunfish Clone

Wayne Carney
 

Hello Adi,

Welcome to the group.

I am not familiar with the Express, but I'm willing to help where I can.
Maybe someone else has heard of this model boat and will chime in as well.

What sort of questions do you have?

Can you post some pictures in the PHOTOS section so we can see the boat?


Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Aditya Garg [mailto:gaajar@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 4:23 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Express Wind - Sunfish Clone


I'm looking for information on a Sunfish lookalike called the Express
Wind which I have just acquired. I am a newbie sailor and have not
found any reference to this boat anywhere.

Thanks for all help.
Adi
Express Wind - Sunfish Clone

 

I'm looking for information on a Sunfish lookalike called the Express
Wind which I have just acquired. I am a newbie sailor and have not
found any reference to this boat anywhere.

Thanks for all help.
Adi
Re: Hi everyone

Wayne Carney
 

Hi,

Welcome to the group. Sorry to hear about your family dispute. You'll
probably come out ahead if you wind up with a newer Fish.

Good luck in your quest,

Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: as_ap1 [mailto:as_ap1@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:29 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Hi everyone


New here, ran across a link while searching for a Sunfish for sale,
thought I'd join. Had a Sunfish while growing up, folks still have it
and haven't wanted to part with it even though it hasn't been wet for
16+ years. Well..... long story short, my younger sis finally got a
place that has enough room for it, and they gave it to her. :( She
lives in the middle of Dallas, I live on the lake in the middle of
Minnesota, but so it goes. Figure that since that one's gone, I'll
just have to bite the bullet and find my own. Will be in off and on
just to read what's going on, hopefully will be posting pics of my new
boat soon! Can't wait to feel the back of my head hitting the tops of
the waves again as I hang my old butt as far out as my toes think they
can maintain. lol
Hi everyone

 

New here, ran across a link while searching for a Sunfish for sale,
thought I'd join. Had a Sunfish while growing up, folks still have it
and haven't wanted to part with it even though it hasn't been wet for
16+ years. Well..... long story short, my younger sis finally got a
place that has enough room for it, and they gave it to her. :( She
lives in the middle of Dallas, I live on the lake in the middle of
Minnesota, but so it goes. Figure that since that one's gone, I'll
just have to bite the bullet and find my own. Will be in off and on
just to read what's going on, hopefully will be posting pics of my new
boat soon! Can't wait to feel the back of my head hitting the tops of
the waves again as I hang my old butt as far out as my toes think they
can maintain. lol
Re: Sail Ring SIze

mikey m
 

Instead of using tie wraps which can tighten by accident use some thin line...

Wayne <wcarney@...> wrote:Hello Ed,

I checked the Sunfish spars and they measure at 1 1/2" outside
diameter. The sail ring measures about 1 5/8" inside diameter.


Wayne





--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "Ed" <conley49@p...> wrote:
Took my "Fish-clone" out this weekend amd broke 3 sail rings. I
have
not been able to find any locally so can anyone tell me the
diameter
of the real Sunfish boom? If my boom is the same size I could
order
replacements form the web.

Thanks,

Ed

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Re: Sail Ring SIze

Wayne Carney
 

Ed,

The commonly used hull speed formula is: 1.34 X the square root of LWL =
Speed (in knots)

A boat's LWL (Length at Water Line) is equal to the distance between the
wave
crests created at the bow and stern by the boat's motion through the water.

A boat rides in the trough between the two wave crests when it is at it's
theoretical maximum hull speed. In reality this formula was developed for
keel boats and many other factors including displacement, beam, and the
shape
of the bow and stern are also involved.

Planing hulls, such as centerboard dinghies, are capable of exceeding their
theoretical hull speed when they achieve a planing attitude. This is
accomplished under wind conditions that are strong enough to propel the boat
up it's own bow wave. The boat is lifted partially out of the water as it
rides
the crest.

Theoretical hull speed for a Sunfish having a LWL of 13.9' = 5 kt (6 mph)

LWL is probably a couple of inches shorter than the total boat length, but
this makes little difference in the results of the equation.

I don't know of a "fastest speed" figure. Maybe someone who races a lot
knows of a recorded speed. I have heard of people using the latest marine
GPS devices to clock speed, but so far nothing for a Sunfish.

As for busting stuff, yes there is a limit. Factors include crew weight,
wind velocity, equipment fatigue, and sailing technique. I have folded spars
by sailing close-hauled when I should have fallen off the wind - both for
efficiency and stress on the equipment. Then again I have all the ballast a
Sunfish can take and a little bit more ...and something has to give - and it
will.



Just as a note of trivia - theoretically, eliminating all friction,
something sail powered can achieve a speed triple that of the wind. Ice
boats designed for speed trials come very close. The speed record for a
sailboat - a trifoiler - is somewhere just over 50 mph in (I think) a 25 mph
wind.


Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Conley [mailto:conley49@...]
Subject: RE: [sunfish_sailor] Re: Sail Ring SIze


Great, thanks for the measurements, Wayne, they match my "Fish-clone"
exactly. For now I am going to use tie-wraps until I order a set
of rings.

Just for fun.... How fast has a Sunfish actually gone? I would
guess that
there is a limit at which catastrophic boom/sail/mast failure could occur.

I have never approached top speed as I have yet to sail with
fewer than two
aboard.

Cheers,

Ed
Re: Sail Ring SIze

Ed Conley
 

Great, thanks for the measurements, Wayne, they match my "Fish-clone"
exactly. For now I am going to use tie-wraps until I order a set of rings.

Just for fun.... How fast has a Sunfish actually gone? I would guess that
there is a limit at which catastrophic boom/sail/mast failure could occur.

I have never approached top speed as I have yet to sail with fewer than two
aboard.

Cheers,

Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne [mailto:wcarney@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 3:26 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Re: Sail Ring SIze


Hello Ed,

I checked the Sunfish spars and they measure at 1 1/2" outside
diameter. The sail ring measures about 1 5/8" inside diameter.


Wayne





--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "Ed" <conley49@p...> wrote:
> Took my "Fish-clone" out this weekend amd broke 3 sail rings. I
have
> not been able to find any locally so can anyone tell me the
diameter
> of the real Sunfish boom? If my boom is the same size I could
order
> replacements form the web.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed


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Re: water in Sunfish

Wayne
 

Judy,

More information....

If you would like to see what the inside of the Sunfish hull looks
like, there is a series of photos of a '79 Fish in the Group FILES
section.


Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Maier [mailto:judylake@m...]
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] water in Sunfish

I have enjoyed sailing a sunfish for many years but can no longer
even pick up the boat to put in the water. The boat itself if
full of water that is in the hull and will not come out. Some
had suggested how to get the water out and fix it so water no
longer comes in but I lost the information. Can anyone help me.
Re: Sail Ring SIze

Wayne
 

Hello Ed,

I checked the Sunfish spars and they measure at 1 1/2" outside
diameter. The sail ring measures about 1 5/8" inside diameter.


Wayne





--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "Ed" <conley49@p...> wrote:
Took my "Fish-clone" out this weekend amd broke 3 sail rings. I
have
not been able to find any locally so can anyone tell me the
diameter
of the real Sunfish boom? If my boom is the same size I could
order
replacements form the web.

Thanks,

Ed
Re: water in Sunfish

Wayne Carney
 

Hi Judy,

OK, having once been the owner of a 400 lb. bouncing baby Sunfish I can
relate to having a bit of water trapped in the hull.

I'll outline a couple of things here and let you apply what you feel is
appropriate.

Since the boat has gained a significant amount of weight I will assume that
the internal foam floatation has become waterlogged. To dry these foam
blocks out you will first need to install an inspection port - maybe two.
(see the "How To" at Wind Line Sails' web site)


You can passively dry the inner hull -
or you can use a hair dryer to actively dry it. Because of the extent that
my boat was waterlogged, I tried the active method first using one of those
portable hair dryers that uses a hose connected to a bonnet. I added a
vacuum cleaner hose extension and shoved the hose way inside the hull. In my
case I ran the hair dryer for a week without any significant improvement.
This leads to the next and more complicated approach.

If the foam blocks will not dry they will need to be replaced. This involves
separating the deck from the hull. It's involved, but not impossible - on
the older boats that have the aluminum trim around the hull to deck flange
it can work out well. I have not done this on the newer boats with the
rolled hull to deck flange and will have to make some inquiries to see how
its done.

If you decide you need to replace the blocks let me know and I will attempt
to guide you. There are some illustrated instructions around, but I can't
seem to find them at the moment.

Phase Dux ------

Since water has gotten into the hull I will assume there's another problem.

Sunfish can develop leaks at a couple of key points. The mast step, the
daggerboard trunk, and on older models the deck to hull flange and the
cockpit flange. The mast step is probably the most common leak point - but -
to be sure it is best to run a leak test.

This "How To" tells you how to find a leak.


Depending on what you find in the leak test will determine what will need to
be done beyond that.


As Doug Adams once said, "Don't PANIC"


Hope this helps,

Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Maier [mailto:judylake@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 9:07 AM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: Re: [sunfish_sailor] water in Sunfish


Hi Wayne,

Had to leave yesterday and just got your message. Yes this was done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Carney
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 2:30 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: RE: [sunfish_sailor] water in Sunfish

Hi Judy,

Sounds like you have a real problem there.

Let's start with the basics - Have you opened the drain plug and tried
letting the water out?

Wayne




-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Maier [mailto:judylake@...]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 10:38 AM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] water in Sunfish


I have enjoyed sailing a sunfish for many years but can no longer
even pick up the boat to put in the water. The boat itself if
full of water that is in the hull and will not come out. Some
had suggested how to get the water out and fix it so water no
longer comes in but I lost the information. Can anyone help me.
Re: water in Sunfish

Dave Jeffries
 

Hi Judy,

Is yours one with the drain plug on the upper right (starboard) side just forward of the cockpit ?
If so, are you propping the boat up so that the drain hole is down ?
If so, and no water is coming out (it may come pretty slow if the foam is soaked) you might inspect the drain hole to see that nothing is plugging it up from the inside (like a piece of dislodged foam).

If yours is one with the drain in the stern, again the flow may be slow and / or something may be plugging the hole.

After all the "loose" water is out then you will still have the challenge of the waterlogged foam to deal with.

Dave J
sd0044@...
==================================================

----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Maier
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 09:07
Subject: Re: [sunfish_sailor] water in Sunfish


Hi Wayne,

Had to leave yesterday and just got your message. Yes this was done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Carney
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 2:30 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: RE: [sunfish_sailor] water in Sunfish

Hi Judy,

Sounds like you have a real problem there.

Let's start with the basics - Have you opened the drain plug and tried
letting the water out?

Wayne




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judy Maier [mailto:judylake@...]
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 10:38 AM
> To: sunfish_sailor@...
> Subject: [sunfish_sailor] water in Sunfish
>
>
> I have enjoyed sailing a sunfish for many years but can no longer
> even pick up the boat to put in the water. The boat itself if
> full of water that is in the hull and will not come out. Some
> had suggested how to get the water out and fix it so water no
> longer comes in but I lost the information. Can anyone help me.
>


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Re: water in Sunfish

Judy Maier
 

Hi Wayne,

Had to leave yesterday and just got your message. Yes this was done.

----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Carney
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 2:30 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: RE: [sunfish_sailor] water in Sunfish

Hi Judy,

Sounds like you have a real problem there.

Let's start with the basics - Have you opened the drain plug and tried
letting the water out?

Wayne




-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Maier [mailto:judylake@...]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 10:38 AM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] water in Sunfish


I have enjoyed sailing a sunfish for many years but can no longer
even pick up the boat to put in the water. The boat itself if
full of water that is in the hull and will not come out. Some
had suggested how to get the water out and fix it so water no
longer comes in but I lost the information. Can anyone help me.

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Re: Sail Ring SIze

Wayne Carney
 

Ed,

I'll try and get a boom measured for you in the next few days. In the mean
time, if you want to go sailing you can use a couple of alternatives to the
"Shower Curtain Rings".

A down and dirty replacement is nylon zip-ties. They work great in an
emergency and are a (pardon me) zip to install on the fly. The down side of
zip-ties is that most are not made with a UV inhibitor in the plastic so
they get brittle and break after being exposed to direct sun for a couple of
months.

The other substitute commonly used is low stretch line. The reason for low
stretch is so you maintain an even sail edge. In the Sunfish Class FAQ page
Bishop Stieffel notes: "I recommend using spec 12 for sail ties. Tie an
over hand knot (the first half of a square knot ) through the grommet and
around the boom. Place a pen or pencil between the line and the boom and
finish the square knot - this helps you keep the sail tied at a consistent
distance from the spar. Sometimes, I've had square knots come loose, so I
make sure that I've cut my ties long enough to use each end of the tie's
leftovers to tie a half hitch around the sail tie".

As Bishop points out you want a little distance between the sail and the
boom. This is so the sail can take the proper shape.


Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed [mailto:conley49@...]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 4:37 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Sail Ring SIze


Took my "Fish-clone" out this weekend amd broke 3 sail rings. I have
not been able to find any locally so can anyone tell me the diameter
of the real Sunfish boom? If my boom is the same size I could order
replacements form the web.

Thanks,

Ed
Re: Sail Ring SIze

Dave Jeffries
 

Hi,
Another option is to simply lace the sail on with any heavy nylon cord.
"Parachute" cord come to mind.
Two long cords in a spiral wrap would do nicely. One for each spar.
Works good on my 'fish.
Dave J
sd0044@...
=========================================

----- Original Message -----
From: Ed
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 16:36
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Sail Ring SIze


Took my "Fish-clone" out this weekend amd broke 3 sail rings. I have
not been able to find any locally so can anyone tell me the diameter
of the real Sunfish boom? If my boom is the same size I could order
replacements form the web.

Thanks,

Ed


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