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Any idea on how best to remove Sunfish class numbers from a sail? I
understand it leaves behind some sticky glue. Would lighter fluid hurt the
sail?

Charles Neuman
Plainview, NY

I am still looking for a late style rudder set to go with my '76
Sunfish.

In the mean time I want to upgrade the main sheet handling system.
Mine has the little 'hook' sort of cleat with no real cleating
capability. I think the new fish have a swivel cam cleat with bulls
eye fairlead from the factory, correct? If I get one, does it
connect in the same location as the original cleat, or does it need
to be installed to the horizontal deck section above the original
location? I have seen a photo of one, but forget where.

John C

I'm looking for two Sunfish in the NY metro area. I'm planning on
teaching my wife how to sail in them so I don't need anything that
could be considered race-able. I'm looking for ones that have been
sitting in garages, under porches and generally underused of late.
Total I'm looking at spending no more than $1500. So if you know of
anyone or have one yourself please contact me.

Thanks

Nate Weber

John,

Question is...do I hold out for someone with a
spare assembly, buy the new cheek and rig the
old rudder and tiller to work with it (rather not),
or mortgage the boat for a new rudder & tiller
"conversion" kit? :~/

I'm gonna hold out a few more days.

It's been pointed out in this group that _I_ am a born tinkerer so I would
lean toward the new Cheek old rudder solution. But, that's me.... ;^) I
also know what a pain all that can be.

Gotta get my 9 year old on the water before
he turns into a Disney Channel zombie.

Whew - can't let that happen.


Here's a couple of more places to look through.......










Wayne

Thanks for the advice Wayne.
This was my conclusion as well. Question is...do I hold out for someone with a spare assembly, buy the new cheek and rig the old rudder and tiller to work with it (rather not), or mortgage the boat for a new rudder & tiller "conversion" kit? :~/
I'm gonna hold out a few more days.

Gotta get my 9 year old on the water before he turns into a Disney Channel zombie.

John

From: "Wayne Carney" <wcarney@...>
Reply-To: sunfish_sailor@...
To: <sunfish_sailor@...>
Subject: RE: [sunfish_sailor] New style rudder/tiller needed
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:48:03 -0600

Hi John,

I don't blame you for not wanting to set sail with your current rig.

I gather you didn't find any used parts available on the Sunfish Bulletin
Board?


GOOD NEWS - I just took another look at your photos. It appears that you do
not need to do anything to your boat. It is already equipped with the "new
style" gudgeon bracket.

BAD NEWS - Coincidentally I was on the phone with a Sunfish supplier when
your email came through, so I asked about the best solution. Oddly enough,
they concur it's less expensive to buy a complete conversion kit - which
includes the tiller (P/N 79072 $330) than it is to purchase the Rudder
assembly (P/N 66620 $204) and Tiller (P/N 66647 $142) separately. (Blah)


For what it's worth..... If you remove the "adaptor", you should get at
least $100 for your old rudder setup on the bulletin board or ebay. (maybe
more if you refinish the wood)


Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: John C [mailto:jkcjohn@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:15 AM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] New style rudder/tiller needed


OK folks,
In order to get my son & I on the water this summer, I'm about to
bite the bullet and purchase the upgrade kit to get the correct
rudder & tiller that I need. Does ANYONE know of a used set for
sale? I passed on the eBay (near new)one when it went to $207, not
including the tiller extension, but in retrospect it was not a bad
deal I suppose. The geocities guy wants $248 for a "reconditioned"
set, while the new upgrade kit will cost me $330. Although it's more
than half of what I paid for the entire boat & trailer, at least it
will be brand spanking new. Any advice out there?

I just can't force myself to sail with the jury-rigged incorrect
rudder that the last owner used. Not only is it a loosy-goosy set
up, it also has to be locked down at all times, making damage to boat
or rudder more likely.

Help!
John C :p(

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Hi John,

I don't blame you for not wanting to set sail with your current rig.

I gather you didn't find any used parts available on the Sunfish Bulletin
Board?


GOOD NEWS - I just took another look at your photos. It appears that you do
not need to do anything to your boat. It is already equipped with the "new
style" gudgeon bracket.

BAD NEWS - Coincidentally I was on the phone with a Sunfish supplier when
your email came through, so I asked about the best solution. Oddly enough,
they concur it's less expensive to buy a complete conversion kit - which
includes the tiller (P/N 79072 $330) than it is to purchase the Rudder
assembly (P/N 66620 $204) and Tiller (P/N 66647 $142) separately. (Blah)


For what it's worth..... If you remove the "adaptor", you should get at
least $100 for your old rudder setup on the bulletin board or ebay. (maybe
more if you refinish the wood)


Wayne

I'm going to need the same thing as you pretty soon, John. Sorry I
can't help...

But in a related question, does anybody know where to find a template
to cut your own rudder board and keel board? The bolts, fixtures,
and brackets I'll have to buy, but I'm eager to make my own boards
until I can scrape together the cash to buy them.

Thanks!

-Mike

--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "John C" <jkcjohn@h...> wrote:

OK folks,
In order to get my son & I on the water this summer, I'm about to
bite the bullet and purchase the upgrade kit to get the correct
rudder & tiller that I need. Does ANYONE know of a used set for
sale? I passed on the eBay (near new)one when it went to $207, not
including the tiller extension, but in retrospect it was not a bad
deal I suppose. The geocities guy wants $248 for a "reconditioned"
set, while the new upgrade kit will cost me $330. Although it's

more

than half of what I paid for the entire boat & trailer, at least it
will be brand spanking new. Any advice out there?

I just can't force myself to sail with the jury-rigged incorrect
rudder that the last owner used. Not only is it a loosy-goosy set
up, it also has to be locked down at all times, making damage to

boat

or rudder more likely.

Help!
John C :p(

OK folks,
In order to get my son & I on the water this summer, I'm about to
bite the bullet and purchase the upgrade kit to get the correct
rudder & tiller that I need. Does ANYONE know of a used set for
sale? I passed on the eBay (near new)one when it went to $207, not
including the tiller extension, but in retrospect it was not a bad
deal I suppose. The geocities guy wants $248 for a "reconditioned"
set, while the new upgrade kit will cost me $330. Although it's more
than half of what I paid for the entire boat & trailer, at least it
will be brand spanking new. Any advice out there?

I just can't force myself to sail with the jury-rigged incorrect
rudder that the last owner used. Not only is it a loosy-goosy set
up, it also has to be locked down at all times, making damage to boat
or rudder more likely.

Help!
John C :p(

Adi,

Just ran across some specials at National Sail. They have a variety of
colored sails for $185.




Wayne

Hi Adi,

About the sail, Mark McQuillen, South Sails, out of
Indian Harbour Beach Florida makes a very nice sail.
He runs them on Ebay starting for $99 once and a
while, they usually end up in the $140 to $160 range
when the bidding is over. He retails them for $175,
$200 with a crash window. Nice sail good fit.
southsailsflorida.com

Jeff

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Mariner Sails - a local sail loft - is offering to 'make' me a Sunfish
type sail for $175. I assume this will be plain white, with no Sunfish
logo. I've also seen a recreational sail for 'casual use only' being
offered by SailNet for $150. Are these good prices? What caveats might
there be in getting it done by a local sail loft?

My Original sail has sun damage, and although I have used sail tape on
the fairly long tears, I cannot imagine it will survive too long.

Thanks,
Adi


--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "Wayne Carney" <wcarney@f...>
wrote:

Adi,

I don't know off the top of my head... Last price I saw was around

$250 for

a bonafide Sunfish sail. Sunfish sail clones can be a little less.

If someone hasn't researched it recently you'll probably have to

search the

net a bit.


Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Aditya Garg [mailto:gaajar@y...]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:27 AM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Sunfish parts


So,
What is the best (by value) place to buy a new recreational sail?

Adi

Adi,

I don't know off the top of my head... Last price I saw was around $250 for
a bonafide Sunfish sail. Sunfish sail clones can be a little less.

If someone hasn't researched it recently you'll probably have to search the
net a bit.


Wayne

So,
What is the best (by value) place to buy a new recreational sail?

Adi

Mike,

I share your sentiment. I've sailed out of Milwaukee and crewed on those
boats with the spinnakers more times than I care to remember.


Keep us posted on your project,

Wayne

I went to school at Marquette and miss Milwaukee and the lake quite a
bit. One of the best sights is driving over the I794 bridge near the
waterfront and seeing the line of spinnakers pop out as racing
sailboats would pass a bouy. I loved the teamwork aspect of sailing
on a larger boat.

-Mike

--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "Wayne Carney" <wcarney@f...>
wrote:

Mike,

Sounds like a great place.

I too learned on Lake Michigan.

NU?

W-

-----Original Message-----
From: fnhspartan [mailto:marquette_93@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:33 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Re: I just got a sunfish and need some

help

finding parts.


With any luck, I'll be sailing the Sunfish in a quiet bay of Lake
Cormorant in western Minnesota. I got hooked on sailing ten

years

ago in college when I sailed on Lake Michigan on an Islander 36 -
quite different!

Thanks for the pointers, Wayne. I'm sure I'll need many more.

-Mike

Mike,

Sounds like a great place.

I too learned on Lake Michigan.

NU?

W-

With any luck, I'll be sailing the Sunfish in a quiet bay of Lake
Cormorant in western Minnesota. I got hooked on sailing ten years
ago in college when I sailed on Lake Michigan on an Islander 36 -
quite different!

Thanks for the pointers, Wayne. I'm sure I'll need many more.

-Mike


--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "Wayne Carney" <wcarney@f...>
wrote:

From: fnhspartan [mailto:marquette_93@h...]
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Re: help finding parts.

In all honesty I won't know exactly what I'll need until the

boat

gets here.

Ah ha.., [play Jeopardy music]

I don't care if the parts don't meet the class code
... My main motivation is the purest - just to sail
the boat on and inland lake and have fun.

I'll be more than happy to do whatever I can to help you get on

the water.

What lake? Where?


Wayne

From: fnhspartan [mailto:marquette_93@...]
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Re: help finding parts.

In all honesty I won't know exactly what I'll need until the boat
gets here.

Ah ha.., [play Jeopardy music]

I don't care if the parts don't meet the class code
... My main motivation is the purest - just to sail
the boat on and inland lake and have fun.

I'll be more than happy to do whatever I can to help you get on the water.

What lake? Where?


Wayne

In all honesty I won't know exactly what I'll need until the boat
gets here. I just bought it and will see it next week. I do know
that it was stripped for deck hardware, sail, daggerboard and the
rudder assembly.

I don't care if the parts don't meet the class code - I can find them
in time and get the boat up-to-spec over the years. My main
motivation is the purest - just to sail the boat on and inland lake
and have fun.

I appreciate the input!


--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "Gail M. Turluck"
<turluck@c...> wrote:

It's pretty unusual to have a hull with no hardware on it. Is that

the

case? Or, are you simply looking for a sail & clips, rudder/tiller
assembly, daggerboard, to finish her off?

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-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Carney [mailto:wcarney@f...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 4:28 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: RE: [sunfish_sailor] Re: I just got a sunfish and need

some help

finding parts.



You are right, the deck fittings are standard. It depends on

whether you

want to race in sanctioned events or not. The Class Association

requires

"approved" equipment. If you are just recreating and/or club

racing - no

worries. You can use what ever works in that case.

The rudder and it's hardware are usually the toughest to find,

daggerboard

is second, sail third.

Is the rudder attachment made of brass plates top and bottom or a

stainless

steel bracket on the transom? If stainless, you have the "new

style". That

is important to know for shopping around.

Access to a machine shop is a plus in my book, but you might be

better off

with a wood shop for the major items you need.

My suggestion is to make a list of everything you need based on the

parts

diagram. Look up the new parts and their cost on the net and choose

how to

proceed from there. I also suggest reading through the Sunfish Class
Association Message Board going back a few months. You never know

what you

might find.


Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: fnhspartan [mailto:marquette_93@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:02 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] Re: I just got a sunfish and need some

help

finding parts.


Thanks for the reply. The hull is a '72 model and is in good

shape.

What parts would be hard to get a hold of? I would think deck
hardware is pretty standardized. Other parts I could possibly

make

in my machine shop if it came down to it I suppose.

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