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Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny

 

Are you guys saying an EJ25 is taller than an EJ22? Where would the spacers be placed?
Craig

--- On Wed, 5/2/12, poussinnoir <huotb@...> wrote:

From: poussinnoir <huotb@...>
Subject: [subaruvanagon] Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny
To: subaruvanagon@...
Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 12:24 PM
















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Spacer, no way out with KEP support.



Ben



--- In subaruvanagon@..., "Gilles Turmel" <gilles.turmel@...> wrote:

We're trying to install this engine using a KEP engine support. We can't close the engine bay lid unless we had 2 inches spacers. Is that the only solution? Also looking for a steel exhaust manifold. Any help would be appreciated.
Best regards.


Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny

 

Spacer, no way out with KEP support.

Ben

--- In subaruvanagon@..., "Gilles Turmel" <gilles.turmel@...> wrote:

We're trying to install this engine using a KEP engine support. We can't close the engine bay lid unless we had 2 inches spacers. Is that the only solution? Also looking for a steel exhaust manifold. Any help would be appreciated.
Best regards.


Re: VSS in Syncro

 

Mine is a weirdstuffwemake version, but basically the same.
My 2000 SOHC works fine with it.


On a side note I did not like the SC one I had installed. I had some problems getting it to pick up the signal and engine never seemed to run correctly.

?
Sean G


________________________________
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@...>
To: subaruvanagon@...
Cc: Leon Korkin <korkwood@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] VSS in Syncro


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suspect you are talking about a SOHC 2.5 which may be different in its
VSS needs,
and, I put a Dan Flemming VSS simulator on a 97 DOHC 2.5 and it sure
made that engine and system happy.

On 5/1/2012 6:33 PM, Leon Korkin wrote:

My VSS (installed in Syncro Vanagon) is not working with EJ25. I recall
discussion about this issue and suggestions
using special device that can modify pulse rate to satisfy ECU. Perhaps
someone can chime in with this info
TIA,
Leon

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Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny

 

Sorry , it was on the subject!!!
I used the same engine support with ej22 and fix well, unless the ej25
is a taller engine.
claudio


Re: 2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny

 

Can tell year , model, etc of the project?
Claudio


2006 EJ25 in a 91 2WD Westy with auto tranny

 

We're trying to install this engine using a KEP engine support. We can't close the engine bay lid unless we had 2 inches spacers. Is that the only solution? Also looking for a steel exhaust manifold. Any help would be appreciated.
Best regards.


Re: VSS in Syncro

Scott Daniel - Turbovans
 

suspect you are talking about a SOHC 2.5 which may be different in its
VSS needs,
and, I put a Dan Flemming VSS simulator on a 97 DOHC 2.5 and it sure
made that engine and system happy.

On 5/1/2012 6:33 PM, Leon Korkin wrote:

My VSS (installed in Syncro Vanagon) is not working with EJ25. I recall
discussion about this issue and suggestions
using special device that can modify pulse rate to satisfy ECU. Perhaps
someone can chime in with this info
TIA,
Leon


Various 2.2 engine questions

 

A couple of weeks ago a friend of mine purchased an air cooled VW powered Lotus Elan look-alike car called an Autodynamics Hustler from an estate. Included with the car were two pickup truck loads of various VW parts plus a 2.2 Subaru engine, wiring harness, and control module, plus a KEP adapter plate. Apparently the deceased previous owner had been planning to do a Subaru engine conversion on the car. My friend, however,is planning to stay with an air cooled engine, and has offered to sell the Subaru package to me. So - here are my questions:
(1) How can I tell what year the engine is, and is there anything that can be done to make a rough determination of the condition of the engine.
(2) If I buy this engine, what should I expect to have to do to an engine like this whose condition is unknown, before I install it in my Vanagon.
(3) My friend said to make him an offer. What would be a reasonable offer to make for a package like this with an engine whose condition id unknown?
Thanks for your advice !!


VSS in Syncro

 

My VSS (installed in Syncro Vanagon) is not working with EJ25. I recall discussion about this issue and suggestions
using special device that can modify pulse rate to satisfy ECU. Perhaps someone can chime in with this info
TIA,
Leon


Re: Fuel Injector choices...

 

It takes special tool to remove injectors without destroying them.
There are many fuel injector cleaning companies all around USA, much
better deal than buying new ones
they replace O-rings and caps and give you complete report about before
and after flow rate
Leon



On 5/1/2012 12:07 PM, Peter Sharp wrote:

1995 EJ120 DOHC non turbo ....... European build standard.

Scott

However did you manage to dismantle the darned things? I spent hours
trying to removed the injectors from their seatings but gave up in the
end lest I damaged them. Also, where did you find the replacement
rubbers? Be a good idea to buy some in before I attempt another
dismantling session!

Pete...

From:Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@...
<mailto:ScottDaniel%40turbovans.com>>
To: subaruvanagon@...
<mailto:subaruvanagon%40yahoogroups.com>
Cc: GreggK <greggkilcoyne@...
<mailto:greggkilcoyne%40hotmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2012, 4:18
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Fuel Injector choices...



fwiw,
I have not found them to wear or be faulty in any way ever.

what I have found is them stuck from sitting for years with fuel in
them...and I was able unstick them.

I have also found the o-ring in the bottom of the bowl the injector sits
in deterorated and cracked..
which will lead to flooding of that cylinder anytime there is fuel
pressure.
It 'looks' like a leaking fuel injector, but it isn't really.
I suspect many have been replaced, thinking it's a leaking injector,
when it's just the o-ring in the bottom of the bowl.

I had to make an injector holder/tester out of an old SVX fuel rail to
be able to test them easily ..
sort of like one can on a waterboxer engine.

once cleaned, treawted, and working smoothly ..the produce a very nice
twin spray pattern .

I don't trust rebuilt fuel injectors very much myself.
I doubt anything is as good as a genuine subaru fuel injector.
plus I don't think they really go bad anyway ...original ones. They
just need cleaning and treating.

scott
www.turbovans.com

On 4/30/2012 7:35 PM, GreggK wrote:

Hello All, Does anyone have a choice fuel injector to go with for a
'93 2.2 legacy engine? Opinions on Beck Arnley, Subaru OEM, GB or
Bosch. Or any I havent mentioned. Then new vs. rebuilt/remanufactured?
Any opinions would be great? Thanks.

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Re: Fuel Injector choices...

Scott Daniel - Turbovans
 

Hi ..
I never try to get the injectors out of the fuel rail with the fuel rail
still on the engine.
I remove the whole fuel rail...
forget how I do it right now ..I press them out in a vice , something
like that. Yeah..I drive them out, using a vice like a press, then
press them back in.
I generally only use genuine subaru fuel system seals on them.
I am sure seals and 0-rings ey exist in the aftermarket too.

scott
www.turbovans.com

On 5/1/2012 12:07 PM, Peter Sharp wrote:

1995 EJ120 DOHC non turbo ....... European build standard.

Scott

However did you manage to dismantle the darned things? I spent hours
trying to removed the injectors from their seatings but gave up in the
end lest I damaged them. Also, where did you find the replacement
rubbers? Be a good idea to buy some in before I attempt another
dismantling session!

Pete...

From:Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@...
<mailto:ScottDaniel%40turbovans.com>>
To: subaruvanagon@...
<mailto:subaruvanagon%40yahoogroups.com>
Cc: GreggK <greggkilcoyne@...
<mailto:greggkilcoyne%40hotmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2012, 4:18
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Fuel Injector choices...



fwiw,
I have not found them to wear or be faulty in any way ever.

what I have found is them stuck from sitting for years with fuel in
them...and I was able unstick them.

I have also found the o-ring in the bottom of the bowl the injector sits
in deterorated and cracked..
which will lead to flooding of that cylinder anytime there is fuel
pressure.
It 'looks' like a leaking fuel injector, but it isn't really.
I suspect many have been replaced, thinking it's a leaking injector,
when it's just the o-ring in the bottom of the bowl.

I had to make an injector holder/tester out of an old SVX fuel rail to
be able to test them easily ..
sort of like one can on a waterboxer engine.

once cleaned, treawted, and working smoothly ..the produce a very nice
twin spray pattern .

I don't trust rebuilt fuel injectors very much myself.
I doubt anything is as good as a genuine subaru fuel injector.
plus I don't think they really go bad anyway ...original ones. They
just need cleaning and treating.

scott
www.turbovans.com

On 4/30/2012 7:35 PM, GreggK wrote:

Hello All, Does anyone have a choice fuel injector to go with for a
'93 2.2 legacy engine? Opinions on Beck Arnley, Subaru OEM, GB or
Bosch. Or any I havent mentioned. Then new vs. rebuilt/remanufactured?
Any opinions would be great? Thanks.



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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Loss Power, CEL O2 Code, and smog test.

 

Thanks, do I check that with some sort of backpressure reading or take it out and look thru it? Never done it.

I'm not ruling that out, but I think It's the injectors, just waiting for a new one.

--- In subaruvanagon@..., Reno <rbm236@...> wrote:

Check catalytic converter. Probably stop up

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Re: Fuel Injector choices...

 

1995 ? EJ120 ? ?DOHC ?non turbo ....... European build standard.

Scott

However did you manage to dismantle the darned things? ?I spent hours trying to removed the injectors from their seatings but gave up in the end lest I damaged them. Also, where did you find the replacement rubbers? ?Be a good idea to buy some in before I attempt another dismantling session!

Pete...





From:Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@...>
To: subaruvanagon@...
Cc: GreggK <greggkilcoyne@...>
Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2012, 4:18
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Fuel Injector choices...


?
fwiw,
I have not found them to wear or be faulty in any way ever.

what I have found is them stuck from sitting for years with fuel in
them...and I was able unstick them.

I have also found the o-ring in the bottom of the bowl the injector sits
in deterorated and cracked..
which will lead to flooding of that cylinder anytime there is fuel pressure.
It 'looks' like a leaking fuel injector, but it isn't really.
I suspect many have been replaced, thinking it's a leaking injector,
when it's just the o-ring in the bottom of the bowl.

I had to make an injector holder/tester out of an old SVX fuel rail to
be able to test them easily ..
sort of like one can on a waterboxer engine.

once cleaned, treawted, and working smoothly ..the produce a very nice
twin spray pattern .

I don't trust rebuilt fuel injectors very much myself.
I doubt anything is as good as a genuine subaru fuel injector.
plus I don't think they really go bad anyway ...original ones. They
just need cleaning and treating.

scott
www.turbovans.com

On 4/30/2012 7:35 PM, GreggK wrote:

Hello All, Does anyone have a choice fuel injector to go with for a
'93 2.2 legacy engine? Opinions on Beck Arnley, Subaru OEM, GB or
Bosch. Or any I havent mentioned. Then new vs. rebuilt/remanufactured?
Any opinions would be great? Thanks.


Re: Fuel Injector choices...

Scott Daniel - Turbovans
 

fwiw,
I have not found them to wear or be faulty in any way ever.

what I have found is them stuck from sitting for years with fuel in
them...and I was able unstick them.

I have also found the o-ring in the bottom of the bowl the injector sits
in deterorated and cracked..
which will lead to flooding of that cylinder anytime there is fuel pressure.
It 'looks' like a leaking fuel injector, but it isn't really.
I suspect many have been replaced, thinking it's a leaking injector,
when it's just the o-ring in the bottom of the bowl.

I had to make an injector holder/tester out of an old SVX fuel rail to
be able to test them easily ..
sort of like one can on a waterboxer engine.

once cleaned, treawted, and working smoothly ..the produce a very nice
twin spray pattern .

I don't trust rebuilt fuel injectors very much myself.
I doubt anything is as good as a genuine subaru fuel injector.
plus I don't think they really go bad anyway ...original ones. They
just need cleaning and treating.

scott
www.turbovans.com

On 4/30/2012 7:35 PM, GreggK wrote:

Hello All, Does anyone have a choice fuel injector to go with for a
'93 2.2 legacy engine? Opinions on Beck Arnley, Subaru OEM, GB or
Bosch. Or any I havent mentioned. Then new vs. rebuilt/remanufactured?
Any opinions would be great? Thanks.


Re: Loss Power, CEL O2 Code, and smog test.

Reno
 

Check catalytic converter. Probably stop up


Re: Loss Power, CEL O2 Code, and smog test.

 

Update:
unplugging injector #2 doesn't change the way it runs.....I'm guessing that a problem.

The "new" injector was from the pile of parts. are there different JDM injectors?

-Andy

--- In subaruvanagon@..., "andymalec" <andymalec@...> wrote:

Hi,

Need Help with an O2 sensor code (91 EJ22 in a 85 Vanagon) #32 and some rough running.
I have about 25K miles, 5 years, on my conversion, but it's smog time again here in California and, wouldn't 'cha know it, it decides to start throwing codes all over the place. Can't show up with a CEL a the smog test. It had been sitting mostly unused for the past year (light use). Anyway, here's the recent problems:

1)Code #15 (#2 Injector)- verified open loop on multimeter, should be 11.5 Ohms...replaced, code gone, thank you ECU.

2)Code #32 (O2 Sensor)- Replaced O2 sensor, code eventually showed back up. Scan tool shows Voltage not varying from .2 to .8 in a nice sine pattern. This was true for the old and new O2 sensor. It appears to peg near .1 volts for long time, but I've seem .8 too so it does change when revving sometimes. Rich, lean, ? either way don't' know what I can do about it.

3)Rough idle - Probably a symptom of problem #2. Tried new spark plug, spark plug wires, swapping coil, new Temp sensor (for ECU), different ECU, checked EGR Valve, sea-foaming the IAC....

The van has a loss of power when driving, but drives. When revving in the drive way, it sounds like it backfires a bit, kind of like a downshifting race car, only cool if you're a race car and not going for a smog test. Something is not right with the way the exhaust sounds when driving a full throttle. Sounds like a weaker whooshing noise that that growl I know and love. I've concentrated my efforts on the top end and sensors. I think the O2 is a red herring but don't know what else to do....mouse in the tailpipe..? I'm not sure if it really ran better after replacing the injector.

Does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Andy Malec
Ventura, CA


Fuel Injector choices...

 

Hello All, Does anyone have a choice fuel injector to go with for a '93 2.2 legacy engine? Opinions on Beck Arnley, Subaru OEM, GB or Bosch. Or any I havent mentioned. Then new vs. rebuilt/remanufactured? Any opinions would be great? Thanks.


Re: engine dies after rapid decelleration

Scott Daniel - Turbovans
 

if it's an OBD-I Legacy 2.2 ..
the IAC valve has two phillips screws..
loosen those, rotate IAC valve left or right, to tweak idle rpm up or
down a tad.

A VSS is usually recommended also.

On 4/30/2012 9:02 AM, paul_reif wrote:

My 87 Westy with 2.2 NA engine performs flawlessly including IAC
function but periodicaly if I decellerate rapidly as I would exiting a
freeway ramp and comming to a stop sign,it dies. There is no sign of
fuel starvation on acceleration, fuel pump and filter are about 15,000
miles old. I do have vss code 33 as well as 51,52. Idle does briefly
drop down below 650 on short stops. Recently ran carb cleaner through
IAC. Cold idle is 1000, warm idle 650rpm . Any suggestions


Re: SmallCar oil pan and dipstick - oil "burp"

 

Greg:

Here is a picture of the setup:

You can see the hose coming up from the case to the Y, the
hose from the air intake to the Y and then the clear vinyl
tubing going from the Y to the air-oil separator and on
to the PCV valve. [Also the long hose coming from the L
valve cover to the air intake.]

Richard

--- In subaruvanagon@..., gregg kilcoyne <greggkilcoyne@...> wrote:


Richard, Hello. I think I understand the way you explained how you put in the seperator from Jegs but anyway you can post a picture? Thanks GreggK


Re: engine dies after rapid decelleration

 

Concur, classic VSS issue. go here for ideas:


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-Andy Malec


--- In subaruvanagon@..., Brent Weide <brent.weide@...>
wrote:

I experience very similar symptoms with a 92 EJ22. After ensuring
that the IAC was clean and functioning correctly I installed a VSS
which solved the problem for good. I'd suggest you try the same.

Brent


--
Brent Weide
Portland, Oregon
www.weidefamily.net/vanagon/