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Re: Best Engine 85 Vanagon

 

Possible engine choices for an 86 include the Subaru XT6 engine (6 cylinder 2.7). It means a lot of fabrication of your own. Almost any of the non can-bus 2.5 engines would be good choices. The 3.0 liter 6 cylinder I believe is a can-bus, and hence might be a bit tricker to do an install on.

Another consideration is your local laws. Most states (Federal US?) will prevent you from putting an engine into your 86 that is older than your 86 (e.g. no engines from 1983 for you). Some states will require to keep most of the "stock" emissions parts in place.

Other considerations are, are you doing the work yourself? Or having someone else do it? Someone else may only want to work on certain engine choices (due to ease of fabrication necessities, or conversion parts.) The common vendors (Smallcar, RJES) have bellhousing for certain motors, but not all. If you choose one of the less common engines, that means use of an adapter plate (probably from Kennedy Engineering.) Nothing wrong with either method.

If your van is a camper, that means it is heavier, and you'll probably enjoy it more, if you have a little more power (at the cost of fuel economy.) But maybe one of the new can-bus 2.5's is good enough for you.

Remember the stock engine is about 95 hp. Nearly any subuaru engine is going to be 50% more power.

You also need to consider your transmission. If it is still stock and has not been overhauled...you will need to have it overhauled RSN. Subaru engines which have more power, will stress it, and reveal your transmissions age.

In the end what's best for you is going to depend on a lot of different factors. Dollars, being one of them.

On May 19, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Reno wrote:

I have a syncro 4x4 vw It's a 86 I need to know the best motor for the money plus power plus fuel milage Any answers


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On May 19, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Jon Durham <Jon_Durham@...> wrote:

Thank you

Jon

On 5/19/2012 12:55 PM, UDO SILLE wrote:

For reliability the 2.2, for power and cost effective installation,
the 2.5
SOHC



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Code 49 - 1990 AFM and IAC wiring help?

lanigan_vanagon
 

Hi all,
During a recent long roadtrip in my (previously well-running) 1990 EJ22 automatic conversion, some serious hesitation, stumbling, and stalling began. It seems to happen pretty randomly, infrequently at first and may have gotten worse in the past few days.

Code 49 appeared after the first stall, and I tried cleaning the AFM with carb cleaner then some other things that were probably needed anyway (new plugs and leads, new fuel pump and filters, found and fixed some small potential vacuum and intake air leaks, etc). But I still have the symptoms, so I'm back to focusing on the AFM...

*Question 1: Can someone tell me how to test voltage the 5 ports on the AFM connector? What I think is the ground is reading .018 ohms to ground, is that too high?

Also considering the IAC. I noticed that my IAC connector has 3 ports (the middle reads 12v) but the IAC itself only has 2 outer pins (no middle!).

*Question 2: Could it be that I have the wrong IAC for my set-up? Could this lead to rich-running and gunking up the engine, causing my stumbling/ stalling?

Here's the numbers as I know them:
Engine: 1990 ej22 from a manual legacy (now in automatic Vanagon)
ECU: AA562
AFM: AA170
IAC: 2-pin (don't know the number)

Thanks for any help!
Joseph


alternator-3wire lug

 

I want to put an alternator from a H6 engine on my 2003 impreza engine in 86 Vanagon. Alternator plug has 3 wires: black/red, white red, and black white and old alt has 2 wires to connect to Vanagon. If any one has info on which wires to use it would be helpful. New alternator has higher amps. thanks Brian


Re: Best Engine 85 Vanagon

Reno
 

I have a syncro 4x4 vw It's a 86 I need to know the best motor for the money plus power plus fuel milage Any answers
On May 19, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Jon Durham <Jon_Durham@...> wrote:

Thank you

Jon

On 5/19/2012 12:55 PM, UDO SILLE wrote:

For reliability the 2.2, for power and cost effective installation,
the 2.5
SOHC



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way its animals are treated" --Gandi

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Re: Best Engine 85 Vanagon

Scott Daniel - Turbovans
 

99 and up Forester and I think...Legacy or Legacy Outback.

On 5/19/2012 12:26 PM, Rob wrote:

At 5/19/2012 10:55 AM,UDO SILLE wrote:
For reliability the 2.2, for power and cost effective installation,
the 2.5
SOHC
What donor would you look for, what you ask the wrecking yards for if
you wanted a 2.5 SOHC?

Rob
becida@... <mailto:becida%40comcast.net>


Re: Best Engine 85 Vanagon

 

On May 19, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Jimmy Gouge wrote:

Driving at a moderate highway speed (65), is there a significant difference
in mpg between the two. What could a non lead foot expect.
I can't actually, accurately answer your question. I can report that having had
a '90 2.2, and now a '03 3.0 in the same van, that there is almost no difference
in MPG, using your parameter, for that van.

Bob
'87 Syncro Westy


Re: Best Engine 85 Vanagon

Jimmy Gouge
 

Driving at a moderate highway speed (65), is there a significant difference
in mpg between the two. What could a non lead foot expect.

Thx
Jimmy
88 Project Westy -



On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Rob <becida@...> wrote:

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At 5/19/2012 10:55 AM,UDO SILLE wrote:
For reliability the 2.2, for power and cost effective installation, the
2.5
SOHC
What donor would you look for, what you ask the wrecking yards for if
you wanted a 2.5 SOHC?

Rob
becida@...




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Re: Best Engine 85 Vanagon

Rob
 

At 5/19/2012 10:55 AM,UDO SILLE wrote:
For reliability the 2.2, for power and cost effective installation, the 2.5
SOHC



What donor would you look for, what you ask the wrecking yards for if you wanted a 2.5 SOHC?



Rob
becida@...


Re: Best Engine 85 Vanagon

Jon Durham
 

Thank you

Jon

On 5/19/2012 12:55 PM, UDO SILLE wrote:

For reliability the 2.2, for power and cost effective installation,
the 2.5
SOHC



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way its animals are treated" --Gandi


Re: Best Engine 85 Vanagon

 

For reliability the 2.2, for power and cost effective installation, the 2.5
SOHC


Re: Best Engine 85 Vanagon

Jon Durham
 

Thank you

On 5/19/2012 11:32 AM, Kim Brennan wrote:

"Best" is a relative term and will depend on who you ask, what you
want to get, how much you are willing to spend. And what you are
expecting to get out of it.

The 2.2 is nice engine, fits well, has plenty of power for a 2wd
Vanagon, but is now getting to be a pretty old engine choice.
The 2.5 comes in a variety of flavors, and is certainly younger in age.
The turbo models add more complexity, but are unsuitable for Syncro
Vanagons (due to interference with the gas tank.)
The 6 cylinder engines (2.7, 3.0, 3.3, 3.6) are heavier (barely so in
the case of the 2.7 or 3.0, much more so in the case of the 3.3).
Fuel economy varies from excellent (in the case of the 2.2) to poor
(in the case of the 3.3).

In the US, the subaru diesel isn't an option (though some one in
Tennessee was working on one.) Elsewhere in the world, that's a great
engine.

On May 19, 2012, at 10:43 AM, germanyjon wrote:

What is the best Subaru engine for my 85 Vanagon?
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Re: Best Engine 85 Vanagon

 

"Best" is a relative term and will depend on who you ask, what you want to get, how much you are willing to spend. And what you are expecting to get out of it.

The 2.2 is nice engine, fits well, has plenty of power for a 2wd Vanagon, but is now getting to be a pretty old engine choice.
The 2.5 comes in a variety of flavors, and is certainly younger in age.
The turbo models add more complexity, but are unsuitable for Syncro Vanagons (due to interference with the gas tank.)
The 6 cylinder engines (2.7, 3.0, 3.3, 3.6) are heavier (barely so in the case of the 2.7 or 3.0, much more so in the case of the 3.3).
Fuel economy varies from excellent (in the case of the 2.2) to poor (in the case of the 3.3).

In the US, the subaru diesel isn't an option (though some one in Tennessee was working on one.) Elsewhere in the world, that's a great engine.

On May 19, 2012, at 10:43 AM, germanyjon wrote:

What is the best Subaru engine for my 85 Vanagon?


Best Engine 85 Vanagon

germanyjon
 

What is the best Subaru engine for my 85 Vanagon?


Re: Throw out bearing travel

 

I found out and now my SmallCar bell housing clutch setup is even better than the factory stock Vanagon clutch!!!!!!

Eat your hearts out!


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Re: vss

dennis miller
 

I'm just curious what is the problem with the Small Car VSS? It's designed
to work with the Suby engine. Mine works perfectly on my 09 2.5 and gives a
very accurate speed signal on the Scan gage.



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Subject: [subaruvanagon] Re: vss





I understand that basically all the common variants of the Vss we use in out
conversions do not give the correct speed to pulse count. Generally this
seems OK, but it is not ideal.

Wonder what the correct count ratio is?


Re: vss

 

The VW VSS feeding into the Dokota Digital SGI-5 and configured correctly does produce a correct signal for a subi 2002 Forester ej25 ECU.? I would imagine that it would work for other year/models as well.

In a syncro, this has importance to reduce the speed the ECU thinks you are going so you don't hit the speed cut out (mine was at 112mph) per scan guage.

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Re: vss

 

I understand that basically all the common variants of the Vss we use in out conversions do not give the correct speed to pulse count. Generally this seems OK, but it is not ideal.

Wonder what the correct count ratio is?


vss

 

after not being satisfied with the small car vss set up i installed one that mounts on cruise control spot on spe3edometer. after 10 days van returned to limp home mode so i thought vss failure. i then ordered an electronic one that send a steady signal. it turned out i had a broken wire resulting in the crank sensor getting only 1 volt instead of 5.the mechanic said that the electronic sensor is not suitable for my 2007 imprezia 2.5 engine since that engine has variable cam solenoids that adjust cams to the speed signal and the electronic sensor sends only one speed while the cruise control sensor sends variable speeds and is better for use with this particular engine. thought this was interesting bit of data and i thought i d share it with the community. henry