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Hey Brent,,, Thanks for that,,, Had already found that but was not sure that RS143 was correct & it no longer shows up on Sliver Seal website,,,
Connecticut Classic Car Parts has it but they do not show specs & I'm as yet unclear as to the actual OD of the CrankShaft Hub that the seal
mates to,,, Mine is not apart so I can't Mic it,,, I've seen references to the use of an SKF 99334 but that seems a slight bit small if using the Seal
as a sizing estimater & of course, estimating is a bad idea when a part has to fit perfectly ~
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Re: How are folks topping off oil levels?
Ok, I’m relatively certain that it should work on the ej22, but I’m sure they’ll confirm that. I’ve run both an ej22 and 25 and i remember the oil fill being identical.?
So the entire oil fill neck is stainless steel (no flex tube) and has a relatively uniform slope down towards the block. So there is no downward angle. Again, I haven’t installed it but it’s apparent looking at the part. It looks very well made and I’m looking forward to installing it, but the van is in storage for the winter.?
That being said, I didn’t order the optional oil funnel. With the location behind the license plate door, obviously it’ll need some sort of funnel to keep from spilling oil everywhere.?
If I get some time next week I’ll install it and update with my thoughts on the design.?
Connor?
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On Jan 3, 2025, at 7:19?PM, Peter Gibson via groups.io <soquel.dude@...> wrote:
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Thanks. I saw this on the Van Café site, but didn’t pay much attention to
it since it’s intended for EJ25. I? did reach out to RMW about when they’d
have an EJ22 solution, but no answer as yet.
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One concern that I had with their setup is the oil filler neck is a flex
tube and looks like it most likely sits at a downward angle behind the license
plate. If so, then you’d have to pump oil up the neck and into the oil port, or
at least stretch the neck out and up to drain the oil.
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Did you order the optional oil funnel?
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Please update this post with what you like/don’t like about their
solution.
?
Thanks!
From: connor warren via groups.io
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2025 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [SubaruVanagon] How are folks topping off oil
levels?
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VanCafe
sells an extended oil filler neck to remedy this issue. Here is a link:
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I bought one but haven’t installed it yet. I’m surprised it
took so long for an option to finally become available.
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Also, I know you’ve got an EJ22 and this states it’s for the EJ25. I’m
relatively certain that the oil fill location is the same on the EJ22 and EJ25
blocks, but maybe triple check with Van Cafe before ordering.
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Connor
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On Jan 3, 2025, at 6:11?PM, Peter Gibson via groups.io
<soquel.dude@...> wrote:
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Hi!
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I have a 1990 Westy Gl AT with an EJ22 conversion. The conversion was
done at SCP and I have their oil pan and metal dipstick.
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What is a PITA for me is topping off the oil level. I want to find a way
to do this without having to open the engine lid and add oil from the port on
the engine. Is it possible to simply pump oil down the guide tube of the oil
dipstick? I see on Amazon small pumps that can be used to pump up to a quart
and these pumps have adapters that can easily go into the guide tube.
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Anybody see a problem with this? What are folks doing to add oil to their
Suby engines?
Thanks!
Re: How are folks topping off oil levels?
Thanks. I saw this on the Van Café site, but didn’t pay much attention to
it since it’s intended for EJ25. I? did reach out to RMW about when they’d
have an EJ22 solution, but no answer as yet.
?
One concern that I had with their setup is the oil filler neck is a flex
tube and looks like it most likely sits at a downward angle behind the license
plate. If so, then you’d have to pump oil up the neck and into the oil port, or
at least stretch the neck out and up to drain the oil.
?
Did you order the optional oil funnel?
?
Please update this post with what you like/don’t like about their
solution.
?
Thanks!
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From: connor warren via groups.io
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2025 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [SubaruVanagon] How are folks topping off oil
levels?
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VanCafe
sells an extended oil filler neck to remedy this issue. Here is a link:
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I bought one but haven’t installed it yet. I’m surprised it
took so long for an option to finally become available.
?
Also, I know you’ve got an EJ22 and this states it’s for the EJ25. I’m
relatively certain that the oil fill location is the same on the EJ22 and EJ25
blocks, but maybe triple check with Van Cafe before ordering.
?
Connor
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On Jan 3, 2025, at 6:11?PM, Peter Gibson via groups.io
<soquel.dude@...> wrote:
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Hi!
?
I have a 1990 Westy Gl AT with an EJ22 conversion. The conversion was
done at SCP and I have their oil pan and metal dipstick.
?
What is a PITA for me is topping off the oil level. I want to find a way
to do this without having to open the engine lid and add oil from the port on
the engine. Is it possible to simply pump oil down the guide tube of the oil
dipstick? I see on Amazon small pumps that can be used to pump up to a quart
and these pumps have adapters that can easily go into the guide tube.
?
Anybody see a problem with this? What are folks doing to add oil to their
Suby engines?
Thanks!
Re: How are folks topping off oil levels?
VanCafe sells an extended oil filler neck to remedy this issue. Here is a link: |
I bought one but haven’t installed it yet. I’m surprised it took so long for an option to finally become available.?
Also, I know you’ve got an EJ22 and this states it’s for the EJ25. I’m relatively certain that the oil fill location is the same on the EJ22 and EJ25 blocks, but maybe triple check with Van Cafe before ordering.?
Connor
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On Jan 3, 2025, at 6:11?PM, Peter Gibson via groups.io <soquel.dude@...> wrote:
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Hi!
?
I have a 1990 Westy Gl AT with an EJ22 conversion. The conversion was done at SCP and I have their oil pan and metal dipstick.
?
What is a PITA for me is topping off the oil level. I want to find a way to do this without having to open the engine lid and add oil from the port on the engine. Is it possible to simply pump oil down the guide tube of the oil dipstick? I see on Amazon small pumps that can be used to pump up to a quart and these pumps have adapters that can easily go into the guide tube.
?
Anybody see a problem with this? What are folks doing to add oil to their Suby engines?
Thanks!
How are folks topping off oil levels?
Hi!
?
I have a 1990 Westy Gl AT with an EJ22 conversion. The conversion was done at SCP and I have their oil pan and metal dipstick.
?
What is a PITA for me is topping off the oil level. I want to find a way to do this without having to open the engine lid and add oil from the port on the engine. Is it possible to simply pump oil down the guide tube of the oil dipstick? I see on Amazon small pumps that can be used to pump up to a quart and these pumps have adapters that can easily go into the guide tube.
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Anybody see a problem with this? What are folks doing to add oil to their Suby engines?
Thanks!
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Re: Possible intake manifold swapping
Hey John. In looking at the pictures that you sent of the top of your intake manifold I noticed that you have several of what must be vacuum lines running above the actual intake. ?Wouldn’t gain you too much but you could definitely reroute those lines to gain some headroom. ?Just a thought. Best,
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On Jan 3, 2025, at 4:49?PM, John via groups.io <bigfoot51102@...> wrote:
? Brent, I was kinda hoping for a stock manifold that my harness would support that was shorter. I don’t know if the Impreza used one just for that model.? $1800 omg. I know they are aimed at the performance market but wow!
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Cole, cutting out the offending lid isn’t an option as I am a big boy at 6’4” and 350+, besides my wife will occasionally camp with me and she is ?very much a princess and the pea kind of sleeper.? John Ps I apologize to all for my accidental empty reply earlier. ? On Jan 3, 2025, at 10:00?AM, Brent Weide via groups.io <brent.weide@...> wrote:
? Morning John. I don’t know of any custom intake manifolds for our subs engines other than those offered by vendor Outfront Motors. ?They are beautiful but they ain’t cheap at around $1800 USD.
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I don’t see whether they actually reduce the height as compared to your stock intake though.
One other way to allow the engine to ride a bit higher is to hack, scrape, and grind the vanagon engine cover so that the fiberglass or plastic cover frame and foam insulation is reduced, allowing the intake more headroom.
At this point I’m thinking that your planned route of installing a chopped oilpan is going to get you the best clearance.
Best of luck with your project.
Brent
On Jan 2, 2025, at 7:15?PM, John via groups.io <bigfoot51102@...> wrote:
Y’all have way more experience with this than I do. I have a 82 Westy and a 05 Impreza ej25. I have the Kennedy support and adapter. When I put it in originally, it was too tall to clear the lid so on someone’s advice, I’m sorry I don’t remember who’s advice from this group, I built spacers to lower the motor. All said and done, I now have about 4 inches of clearance on the pan. I do have the shorter pan on order but I was wondering if y’all know if there is another intake manifold that I can replace the current setup and remove, or reduce the height of, the 2.5 inch spacers. I don’t have the need, nor spare money, to lift the Vanagon at this time and I live in a small town that fully embraces terrible pot holes. Thanks in advance. John
ps yes I have tried to find the answer on my own but am striking out. ?
Re: Possible intake manifold swapping
? Brent, I was kinda hoping for a stock manifold that my harness would support that was shorter. I don’t know if the Impreza used one just for that model.? $1800 omg. I know they are aimed at the performance market but wow!
Cole, cutting out the offending lid isn’t an option as I am a big boy at 6’4” and 350+, besides my wife will occasionally camp with me and she is ?very much a princess and the pea kind of sleeper.? John Ps I apologize to all for my accidental empty reply earlier. ?
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On Jan 3, 2025, at 10:00?AM, Brent Weide via groups.io <brent.weide@...> wrote:
? Morning John. I don’t know of any custom intake manifolds for our subs engines other than those offered by vendor Outfront Motors. ?They are beautiful but they ain’t cheap at around $1800 USD.
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I don’t see whether they actually reduce the height as compared to your stock intake though.
One other way to allow the engine to ride a bit higher is to hack, scrape, and grind the vanagon engine cover so that the fiberglass or plastic cover frame and foam insulation is reduced, allowing the intake more headroom.
At this point I’m thinking that your planned route of installing a chopped oilpan is going to get you the best clearance.
Best of luck with your project.
Brent
On Jan 2, 2025, at 7:15?PM, John via groups.io <bigfoot51102@...> wrote:
Y’all have way more experience with this than I do. I have a 82 Westy and a 05 Impreza ej25. I have the Kennedy support and adapter. When I put it in originally, it was too tall to clear the lid so on someone’s advice, I’m sorry I don’t remember who’s advice from this group, I built spacers to lower the motor. All said and done, I now have about 4 inches of clearance on the pan. I do have the shorter pan on order but I was wondering if y’all know if there is another intake manifold that I can replace the current setup and remove, or reduce the height of, the 2.5 inch spacers. I don’t have the need, nor spare money, to lift the Vanagon at this time and I live in a small town that fully embraces terrible pot holes. Thanks in advance. John
ps yes I have tried to find the answer on my own but am striking out. ?
Hey Dean. ? I did a search over on the Ultimate Subaru Message Board and came away with some info and pictures of the installation of a Speedi Sleeve. ? | |
The part numbers I pulled from an image on that site had the following info listed:
RS143
CRANKSHAFT REPAIR SLEEVE
806786040
Subaru Oil Seal
Final note: ?I’d doublecheck those part numbers with a vendor before clicking the “Purchase” button!!
On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:08?AM, OlRivrRat DeanB via groups.io <olrivrrat@...> wrote:
Has anyone here used a Speedi Sleeve on the FlyWheel mounting hub on crankshaft of an EJ25 to stop a rear main seal leak & if so what was the part number ~
Has anyone here used a Speedi Sleeve on the FlyWheel mounting hub on crankshaft of an EJ25 to stop a rear main seal leak & if so what was the part number ~
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Re: Possible intake manifold swapping
On Jan 3, 2025, at 10:00?AM, Cole Nutma via groups.io <cole.nutma@...> wrote:
? I was in the same boat as you. I used 1 in spacers, then didn't like how low the oil pan was. So i end?up cutting the engine lid, only where needed. After I cut it I made a cover out of aluminum. You don't?realize it when sleeping.? On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 7:50?AM Bindu Miller via <bindumiller= [email protected]> wrote: My 07 2.5 installation only required 1 inch spacers to fit under the lid. Not sure why your intake is so much taller. I really have not heard of an installation needing more than 1 inch spacers. Maybe share a picture.
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Re: Possible intake manifold swapping
I was in the same boat as you. I used 1 in spacers, then didn't like how low the oil pan was. So i end?up cutting the engine lid, only where needed. After I cut it I made a cover out of aluminum. You don't?realize it when sleeping.?
On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 7:50?AM Bindu Miller via <bindumiller= [email protected]> wrote: My 07 2.5 installation only required 1 inch spacers to fit under the lid. Not sure why your intake is so much taller. I really have not heard of an installation needing more than 1 inch spacers. Maybe share a picture.
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Re: Possible intake manifold swapping
Morning John. I don’t know of any custom intake manifolds for our subs engines other than those offered by vendor Outfront Motors. ?They are beautiful but they ain’t cheap at around $1800 USD.
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I don’t see whether they actually reduce the height as compared to your stock intake though.
One other way to allow the engine to ride a bit higher is to hack, scrape, and grind the vanagon engine cover so that the fiberglass or plastic cover frame and foam insulation is reduced, allowing the intake more headroom.
At this point I’m thinking that your planned route of installing a chopped oilpan is going to get you the best clearance.
Best of luck with your project.
Brent
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On Jan 2, 2025, at 7:15?PM, John via groups.io <bigfoot51102@...> wrote:
Y’all have way more experience with this than I do. I have a 82 Westy and a 05 Impreza ej25. I have the Kennedy support and adapter. When I put it in originally, it was too tall to clear the lid so on someone’s advice, I’m sorry I don’t remember who’s advice from this group, I built spacers to lower the motor. All said and done, I now have about 4 inches of clearance on the pan. I do have the shorter pan on order but I was wondering if y’all know if there is another intake manifold that I can replace the current setup and remove, or reduce the height of, the 2.5 inch spacers. I don’t have the need, nor spare money, to lift the Vanagon at this time and I live in a small town that fully embraces terrible pot holes. Thanks in advance. John
ps yes I have tried to find the answer on my own but am striking out. ?
Re: Possible intake manifold swapping
My 07 2.5 installation only required 1 inch spacers to fit under the lid. Not sure why your intake is so much taller. I really have not heard of an installation needing more than 1 inch spacers. Maybe share a picture.
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Re: Recommendations for Starting Battery
Everstart Group 41 always worked for me with an 02 2.5L in my 88 AT. A ground cable from the starter ground to the frame is recommended. See threads on theSamba. The 86-91 VW starter is just adequate. I went with a high torque Bosch starter from an 02 Jetta TDI manual diesel with the WestyVentures adapter.
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Edit: the WestyVentures adapter is now available from T3 Technique and also RMW(VanCafe)
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Possible intake manifold swapping
Y’all have way more experience with this than I do. I have a 82 Westy and a 05 Impreza ej25. I have the Kennedy support and adapter. When I put it in originally, it was too tall to clear the lid so on someone’s advice, I’m sorry I don’t remember who’s advice from this group, I built spacers to lower the motor. All said and done, I now have about 4 inches of clearance on the pan. I do have the shorter pan on order but I was wondering if y’all know if there is another intake manifold that I can replace the current setup and remove, or reduce the height of, the 2.5 inch spacers. I don’t have the need, nor spare money, to lift the Vanagon at this time and I live in a small town that fully embraces terrible pot holes. Thanks in advance. John
ps yes I have tried to find the answer on my own but am striking out. ?
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Re: Recommendations for Starting Battery
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From: Brent Weide via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2025 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [SubaruVanagon] Recommendations for Starting
Battery
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Good
afternoon.
To answer your primary question:? There are no special requirements
for a vanagon battery which will be starting and running a Subaru engine.
Since I’m hoping to halt a battery thread before it starts I will say that
this topic is better suited for other forums/groups.
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Thanks,
Brent (moderator)
On Jan 2, 2025, at 12:46?PM, soquel.dude via groups.io
<soquel.dude@...> wrote:
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Hi!
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I have a '90 Vanagon Westy GL, AT, EJ22E conversion
(1993 2.2L Legacy Engine) that has a bad starting battery. I was wondering
what folks are using for batteries in their Subaru
conversions.
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This may seem like an off-topic question, but I
wonder if the cranking requirements for starting an EJ22 are different from
the requirements for a stock 2.1L waterboxer. So, I wanted to see what folks
with conversions are using.
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Also, what group? I will probably stick with Group
41, but I've heard a lot of talk about Group T5 being a better fit under the
passenger seat.
I'm currently looking at EverStart and Odyssey
batteries. What else should I look at?
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Thanks!
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Re: Recommendations for Starting Battery
Good afternoon. To answer your primary question: ?There are no special requirements for a vanagon battery which will be starting and running a Subaru engine. Since I’m hoping to halt a battery thread before it starts I will say that this topic is better suited for other forums/groups.
Thanks,
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On Jan 2, 2025, at 12:46?PM, soquel.dude via groups.io <soquel.dude@...> wrote:
Hi!
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I have a '90 Vanagon Westy GL, AT, EJ22E conversion (1993 2.2L Legacy Engine) that has a bad starting battery. I was wondering what folks are using for batteries in their Subaru conversions.
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This may seem like an off-topic question, but I wonder if the cranking requirements for starting an EJ22 are different from the requirements for a stock 2.1L waterboxer. So, I wanted to see what folks with conversions are using.
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Also, what group? I will probably stick with Group 41, but I've heard a lot of talk about Group T5 being a better fit under the passenger seat.
I'm currently looking at EverStart and Odyssey batteries. What else should I look at?
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Thanks!
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Recommendations for Starting Battery
Hi!
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I have a '90 Vanagon Westy GL, AT, EJ22E conversion (1993 2.2L Legacy Engine) that has a bad starting battery. I was wondering what folks are using for batteries in their Subaru conversions.
?
This may seem like an off-topic question, but I wonder if the cranking requirements for starting an EJ22 are different from the requirements for a stock 2.1L waterboxer. So, I wanted to see what folks with conversions are using.
?
Also, what group? I will probably stick with Group 41, but I've heard a lot of talk about Group T5 being a better fit under the passenger seat.
I'm currently looking at EverStart and Odyssey batteries. What else should I look at?
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Thanks!
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Re: List of Subaru repair vendors/shops?
Vivid used to be up here in BC too. They were not known for being particularly good about getting repairs done on time and also they’d take piles of money upfront and there was some reports of people getting ripped off etc.
I’ve met the guy who owns it and he was always cool to me, just saying it didn’t end well up here?
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On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 5:34?PM soquel.dude via groups.io <soquel.dude@...> wrote:
The VanAlert app and it's list of Vanagon repair shops is good. Here's another list:
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Also, IIRC, the OP wanted references to shops that do work on Subaru conversions. I live in the Sana Cruz area, so if you find yourself in my digs, there are 2 shops that I can recommend:
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Vivid Vans
http://www.vividvans.com/
831 201 4894
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* Good for all things Westy and Suby!
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Rick's Auto Shop
(831) 475-2470
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* Good for all things Suby engine related.
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Re: Kennedy kit catalytic converter
I just replaced my catalytic converter with the Walker, purchased directly from Kennedy. They were wonderful to deal with, and prompt. I received a copy of the executive order and the plate that comes with it. Passed smog with no problems at Autotek in the Sacramento area.?
Happy New Year?
Bob
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On Jan 1, 2025, at 5:30?PM, soquel.dude via groups.io <soquel.dude@...> wrote:
? I believe that for CA the KEP catalytic converter is the Walker cat, which you can get from KEP. I decided to get the same cat from SCP () especially since I wanted to weld flanges for a replacement muffler. The stamp on KEP's and SCP's cat is the same, so it refers to the same ARB EO, and should be no problem with BAR.
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