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Re: Random Switch

 

I responded using my phone and am not seeing what I wrote on the web site.


The red wire is terminal 58 "malfunction Indicator Lamp"
The yellow wire is grounded best as I can tell from my wire tracer. Even with the plug disconected from ECU there was no tone from the tracer.?
The illuminated switch acts like a check engine light. And yes, it is always on as I do not have a "code killer".

I am going to leave the switch as is.?

Thank you all.?


Re: engine shuts off on steep downhills

 

Unfortunately no codes. My 2001 legacy is european specs. NO OBD2 before 2001 there. So no scan gauge no torquepro. Was unlucky on that.

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Codes?


Re: engine shuts off on steep downhills

 

I have open and clean my IAC valve a couple of months ago. Not sure if i had to readjust something again after that. If yes pls let me know

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¦¨?¦Ì¦Á: Re: [SubaruVanagon] engine shuts off on steep downhills

My suspicion is gummy Idle Air Control valve.? Simple to clean, expensive ($300+) to replace.? A similar suspicion is gummy Throttle body....again extremely simple to clean these things up.? My motor used to shut off when downshifting and cruising into some place, this was with Air Conditioner On (Subie EJ22).? I don't care how clean your motor might be externally....but gummy stuff internally is always a bad situation.? And no...things won't fix themselves.? But elbow grease will fix.

On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 01:30:44 PM PDT, a.garibaldi <achilleas@...> wrote:


I go down in compression either with 1st; 2nd or third gear the engine shuts of. No i am not in neutral. I use in dash speedometer speed sensor. I have not test if works fine. Don't know how to test this.?

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are you going down in neutral or with compression . agree it may be related to speed sensor.?


Re: engine shuts off on steep downhills

 

Codes?


Re: engine shuts off on steep downhills

 

My suspicion is gummy Idle Air Control valve.? Simple to clean, expensive ($300+) to replace.? A similar suspicion is gummy Throttle body....again extremely simple to clean these things up.? My motor used to shut off when downshifting and cruising into some place, this was with Air Conditioner On (Subie EJ22).? I don't care how clean your motor might be externally....but gummy stuff internally is always a bad situation.? And no...things won't fix themselves.? But elbow grease will fix.

On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 01:30:44 PM PDT, a.garibaldi <achilleas@...> wrote:


I go down in compression either with 1st; 2nd or third gear the engine shuts of. No i am not in neutral. I use in dash speedometer speed sensor. I have not test if works fine. Don't know how to test this.?

B.R. Achilleas
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¦¨?¦Ì¦Á: Re: [SubaruVanagon] engine shuts off on steep downhills

are you going down in neutral or with compression . agree it may be related to speed sensor.?


Re: engine shuts off on steep downhills

 

For your engineer you should have a ODB2 interface. If you have that you can connect it to a reader.? Many of us use the app torque and our phones with a $10 Bluetooth ODB2 reader Amazon or eBay. If you have that set up your torque or whichever app you're using will be able to tell you the speed the ECU is getting from the speed sensor

Andy
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On Mon, Jul 3, 2023, 2:30 PM a.garibaldi <achilleas@...> wrote:
I go down in compression either with 1st; 2nd or third gear the engine shuts of. No i am not in neutral. I use in dash speedometer speed sensor. I have not test if works fine. Don't know how to test this.?

B.R. Achilleas
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¦¨?¦Ì¦Á: Re: [SubaruVanagon] engine shuts off on steep downhills

are you going down in neutral or with compression . agree it may be related to speed sensor.?


Re: engine shuts off on steep downhills

 

I go down in compression either with 1st; 2nd or third gear the engine shuts of. No i am not in neutral. I use in dash speedometer speed sensor. I have not test if works fine. Don't know how to test this.?

B.R. Achilleas
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¦¨?¦Ì¦Á: Re: [SubaruVanagon] engine shuts off on steep downhills

are you going down in neutral or with compression . agree it may be related to speed sensor.?


Re: engine shuts off on steep downhills

 

are you going down in neutral or with compression . agree it may be related to speed sensor.?


Re: engine shuts off on steep downhills

 

What does sensor do you have and have you verified it is working and if so, what does is it reporting compared to actual speed?

Andy
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On Mon, Jul 3, 2023, 8:12 AM a.garibaldi <achilleas@...> wrote:

Hello Everyone

When driving on steep downhills my 2001 ej25 shutts of after half a mile of drive. So have to shift 2nd to start again the engine,? and this goes on again and again.

Look like the fuel circuit is running out of fuel.

I have clean the iddle air valve a couple of months before, thought i would solve the problem, but didn;t get any better with that. Is there any group member having same problem?? Any solution on that??

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Achilleas Garibaldi

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Re: Random Switch

 

Ok, spending a few minutes, The check engine light switch would make perfect sense. California smog requires an operable and illuminated check engine light with various transmission and vehicle speed codes as allowed by Executive Order. Turning off the light would be a convivence feature, Identify this diagram with red/white wire going to pin 8 of connector B74 and pin 58 of ECM. This wire will be grounded for operation of bulb. Why the wire color change? switch should only open 1 circuit(there is probably a splice back to the same red/white wire). Also included 97 terminal Id charts.

Richard Stratford



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On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 08:19:39 PM PDT, Richard W Stratford <daritysden@...> wrote:


OK guys, who cuts wires without knowing what is going on. As my first post, check the wiring diagram... Apparently that may not be available to all, so I attached a '97 Impreza ECU diagram. Andrew had very good point that got me back here. The '97 has both OBD11 and old school connectors. The harness has been compromised so if wire color doesn't work than pinout connectors to verify continuity. ECM part number verification is a good call.?

Richard Stratford



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On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 07:20:23 PM PDT, Wayne Sitarz <wesitarz@...> wrote:


I second Brent's call. It's for the always on CEL. I just cut the wire and used my code reader or later my TorquePro.


engine shuts off on steep downhills

 

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Hello Everyone

When driving on steep downhills my 2001 ej25 shutts of after half a mile of drive. So have to shift 2nd to start again the engine,? and this goes on again and again.

Look like the fuel circuit is running out of fuel.

I have clean the iddle air valve a couple of months before, thought i would solve the problem, but didn;t get any better with that. Is there any group member having same problem?? Any solution on that??

--

Best Regards

Achilleas Garibaldi

19011 Avlona Attiki Greece

¦³:22950 29300



Virus-free.


Re: Random Switch

 

OK guys, who cuts wires without knowing what is going on. As my first post, check the wiring diagram... Apparently that may not be available to all, so I attached a '97 Impreza ECU diagram. Andrew had very good point that got me back here. The '97 has both OBD11 and old school connectors. The harness has been compromised so if wire color doesn't work than pinout connectors to verify continuity. ECM part number verification is a good call.?

Richard Stratford



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On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 07:20:23 PM PDT, Wayne Sitarz <wesitarz@...> wrote:


I second Brent's call. It's for the always on CEL. I just cut the wire and used my code reader or later my TorquePro.


Re: Random Switch

 

I second Brent's call. It's for the always on CEL. I just cut the wire and used my code reader or later my TorquePro.


Intake option

 

Nice looking,useable intake on this 2015 Outback. Flattened,bigger horns than the one I used.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KS9K9GBzf4


Re: Random Switch

 

I believe he means the 12v supplied to the OBD port which may have a Bluetooth unit plugged into it for diagnostics.?


Re: Random Switch

 

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Bluetooth in 1997?? It was invented in 1999.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of ANDREW
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023 10:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: PJ Snow <snow.pj@...>
Subject: Re: [SubaruVanagon] Random Switch

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If it is ODB2 maybe that switch is to shut down the Bluetooth scanner so it doesn't drain the battery

Andy
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On Sun, Jul 2, 2023, 10:52 AM Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@...> wrote:

You said it is a ¡¯97 EJ22,? That is OBD2.? There should be an OBD2 connector,? not the green plugs.? Leads me to think someone wired it as OBD1 (not Small Car). Google the number on the ECU and see what it¡¯s from.? Also, how many O2 sensors do you have?? OBD1 has one and OBD2 has two.? Someone might have gotten a deal on that harness and ECU.?

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Stuart

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of PJ Snow
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023 7:58 AM
To: You said [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SubaruVanagon] Random Switch

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Thanks everyone.?

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Reply from Austin at Small Car "We don¡¯t put switches on the harness.? If that is in your harness¡ªI recommend you get a new harness.? That is a terrible idea."

Even though the conversion components came from S.C., all the receipts?for the swap are from Dean's Car Care in Portland,OR.

So I will dig through the folder and see if I can find who did the harness.

I have the wiring diagram and have not had time to go through it yet and try to figure it out.?

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I do have the green test plugs, I will plug them in and flip the switch and see what happens.

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I like the idea of a TUNE, but sadly no?increase in HP when switch flipped in either direction.??

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I also have a financier?wire tracer that I will use to find which direction the wires run.

?

I will report back, I should have time today to investigate.

?

PJ

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On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 4:05?AM Eric Freudenthal <eric@...> wrote:

I like this approach.? ?There are devices to make it easy to trace down the wires.? I own and frequently use this quite?affordable wire tracker from harbor freight: ??


Re: Random Switch

 

If it is ODB2 maybe that switch is to shut down the Bluetooth scanner so it doesn't drain the battery

Andy
505-304-5306

On Sun, Jul 2, 2023, 10:52 AM Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@...> wrote:

You said it is a ¡¯97 EJ22,? That is OBD2.? There should be an OBD2 connector,? not the green plugs.? Leads me to think someone wired it as OBD1 (not Small Car). Google the number on the ECU and see what it¡¯s from.? Also, how many O2 sensors do you have?? OBD1 has one and OBD2 has two.? Someone might have gotten a deal on that harness and ECU.?

?

Stuart

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of PJ Snow
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023 7:58 AM
To: You said [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SubaruVanagon] Random Switch

?

Thanks everyone.?

?

Reply from Austin at Small Car "We don¡¯t put switches on the harness.? If that is in your harness¡ªI recommend you get a new harness.? That is a terrible idea."

Even though the conversion components came from S.C., all the receipts?for the swap are from Dean's Car Care in Portland,OR.

So I will dig through the folder and see if I can find who did the harness.

I have the wiring diagram and have not had time to go through it yet and try to figure it out.?

?

I do have the green test plugs, I will plug them in and flip the switch and see what happens.

?

I like the idea of a TUNE, but sadly no?increase in HP when switch flipped in either direction.??

?

I also have a financier?wire tracer that I will use to find which direction the wires run.

?

I will report back, I should have time today to investigate.

?

PJ

?

On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 4:05?AM Eric Freudenthal <eric@...> wrote:

I like this approach.? ?There are devices to make it easy to trace down the wires.? I own and frequently use this quite?affordable wire tracker from harbor freight: ??


Re: Random Switch

 

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You said it is a ¡¯97 EJ22,? That is OBD2.? There should be an OBD2 connector,? not the green plugs.? Leads me to think someone wired it as OBD1 (not Small Car). Google the number on the ECU and see what it¡¯s from.? Also, how many O2 sensors do you have?? OBD1 has one and OBD2 has two.? Someone might have gotten a deal on that harness and ECU.?

?

Stuart

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of PJ Snow
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023 7:58 AM
To: You said [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SubaruVanagon] Random Switch

?

Thanks everyone.?

?

Reply from Austin at Small Car "We don¡¯t put switches on the harness.? If that is in your harness¡ªI recommend you get a new harness.? That is a terrible idea."

Even though the conversion components came from S.C., all the receipts?for the swap are from Dean's Car Care in Portland,OR.

So I will dig through the folder and see if I can find who did the harness.

I have the wiring diagram and have not had time to go through it yet and try to figure it out.?

?

I do have the green test plugs, I will plug them in and flip the switch and see what happens.

?

I like the idea of a TUNE, but sadly no?increase in HP when switch flipped in either direction.??

?

I also have a financier?wire tracer that I will use to find which direction the wires run.

?

I will report back, I should have time today to investigate.

?

PJ

?

On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 4:05?AM Eric Freudenthal <eric@...> wrote:

I like this approach.? ?There are devices to make it easy to trace down the wires.? I own and frequently use this quite?affordable wire tracker from harbor freight: ??


Re: Random Switch

 

Thanks everyone.?

Reply from Austin at Small Car "We don¡¯t put switches on the harness.? If that is in your harness¡ªI recommend you get a new harness.? That is a terrible idea."
Even though the conversion components came from S.C., all the receipts?for the swap are from Dean's Car Care in Portland,OR.
So I will dig through the folder and see if I can find who did the harness.
I have the wiring diagram and have not had time to go through it yet and try to figure it out.?

I do have the green test plugs, I will plug them in and flip the switch and see what happens.

I like the idea of a TUNE, but sadly no?increase in HP when switch flipped in either direction.??

I also have a financier?wire tracer that I will use to find which direction the wires run.

I will report back, I should have time today to investigate.

PJ

On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 4:05?AM Eric Freudenthal <eric@...> wrote:
I like this approach.? ?There are devices to make it easy to trace down the wires.? I own and frequently use this quite?affordable wire tracker from harbor freight: ??


Re: Random Switch

 

I like this approach.? ?There are devices to make it easy to trace down the wires.? I own and frequently use this quite?affordable wire tracker from harbor freight: ??