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Re: Cruising Speeds

Ron Bloomquist
 

Hi group,

I've been gone camping for four~five days in my Vanaru and just got back and
checked my e-mail. Let me comment with some of my thoughts after reading
your recent 54 e-mails.

1. Don't kick my buddy Hobert around. He is my guru and can do no wrong.
(He put up with my e-mails and phone calls during my conversion and every
time was able to put me on the right path with information which was already
in his brochure if I had only read a bit deeper - quite embarrassing on my
part, actually.)

2. Shift whenever you want to. Lazy, whimpy, go with the flow, shift
around 3,000 or the, see if I can impress someone and tighten my sphincter
at the same time, shift at around 5,500 ~ 6,000 rpm. It's up to you...
Ain't 'merica great!

3. I have found that if I turn on the Subie power to blast down Interstate
5 and keep up with all the trucks, assholes and look alike SUV's I get
around 18 miles per gallon.
(After all, we are driving something with the aerodynamics of a brick...)

4. This last camping trip I traveled with my friends Iren and Stefan who
imported a 1967 H model Citroen (three speed) truck from Switzerland. It is
their camper. Following them along we averaged 48 miles per hour on the
flats and really poked along while going over the coastal range and used all
the "turn outs". My gas mileage for this 200 mile round trip was 23.28
miles per gallon!!
Slow down and save!!

(An additional plus. I could actually smell the flowers as we poked
along!)

5. So. It's all in how you drive and how you enjoy driving. The
Subie/vanagon seems able to match your mood.

6. My friend Eddie was not able to finish dialing in his conversion before
our trip and so had to use his Mazda MPV as his vehicle of choice. Bummer.
Close but no cigar. (There were three couples on this camping trip. Me
with my partner Lolli and Red Rug, my dog formerly known as Sarah, in
Vanaru. Iren and Stefan in the Citroen and Ed and Suzanne in the MVP. If
you have ever checked out our Spring Break trips on my homepage you know
what I am talking about.



7. At our campsite in the Mendocino National Forest there was a rather
steep, loose, gravel take-off we had to negotiate before we could get out of
there and return home. I hooked Vanaru to the Citroen H model camper (two
tons of French engineering) with a nylon strap. We then studied the lay of
the land and, in a combined effort, whipped right up and out of our dilemma.
E-ha!

8. Vanagon camper (swivel seats, propane~12 volt~110 volt refrigerator,
sink and 13 gallons of water, two burner stove, mosquito nets, gobs of
storage, 110 volt power inverter for grinding the coffee beans, expresso
maker) and Subaru engine. A match made in heaven (by Hobert).

9. I'm a happy camper.

10. Yes, my oil pan hangs low. I straddled the ruts. No problem.
(As you travel along pay attention to other vehicles and what their
"clearance" is.) We ain't that bad off actually.

Ron Bloomquist
Vanaru - 84 Wolfy camper/1991 Subie 2.2 Legacy
ROADCOW - 1971 Westphalia/81 Toyota 3TC
and Red Rug, the dog formerly known as Sarah.


Re: Subie engines for sale

Patrick Bryson
 

Larry,
I've been speaking to George about his 2.2L. Do you know George? I am very
interested in this engine and I am trying to get a feel for this guy.

Patrick Bryson
Phoenix
'85 Westy

----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Johnson <LARRY_AVERY.JOHNSON@...>
To: urabus <subaruvanagon@...>; vanagon <vanagon@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 7:33 AM
Subject: [subaruvanagon] Subie engines for sale


I have just been told of two Subaru engines for sale:

< Are you still looking for a Subaru engine? I have two at present one
is a 2.2 Legacy which is complete with harness and computers 53000 miles
. Price 600.00
The other is a 2.7 tx6 complete with harness and computers 92000 miles
and runes like new. Price is 750.00>

If interested contact George Reed mailto:hotvw@... not me.
-Larry





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Re: DIFFICULT COLD START

Lawrence Johnson
 

Gawzner, on cold starts, our Subaru engine revs to 2000 rpm and stays there
for quite a while (10 minutes or so) and then drops to the correct idle of
850 rpm. Our engine is a 1991 automatic with a slide valve idle stabilizer
air bypass system. I suspect that this valve is sticking and should in fact
close sooner (1 to 2 minutes would be reasonable). Strangely, my old 1986
Subaru automatic did exactly the same thing: high revs for 10 minutes or
until the gearshift moved out of park (and even then sometimes not).
-L

GawznerJ@... wrote:

I may have already replied, but being new at this, I think somehow I
never did get my comments executed, hence if this is a repeat, I
apologize.

I was following with interest the thread on cold starts. My
observation is not quite as serious at Kjanda's:

I find that when the engine is cold that it turns over just fine - I
just need to keep the rpms at 1000-1100 for about 10 sec before the
engine will not die and stay in idle. Once this is done, no problems
at all. That nice quiet, almost inperceptible idle! However, I do
need to add some pressure when starting the engine. Any ideas??

Joe

90 Westy Syncro

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Re: Cruising Speeds

Tom Myers
 

I have a friend with a 1990 Subaru Wagon (since new). He says he never shifts below 5000, and just simply loves to hear it at 6500 (and higher, often). He has 175,000 miles on it. It does not burn oil, and seems to run as new.

I think you can probably pick any shift point you want and your motor will still outlast your vanagon.

Tom

PS. A local mountain pass, where my 2.1L could barely muster 50MPH, the Urabus climbs at 65mph
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Re: Cruising Speeds

Lawrence Johnson
 

Gawzner, I shift at 4000 rpm to 4500 rpm. It may be a legacy (pun intended)
of my driving experience with the VW WBX but it just sounds right. It may
also be as a result of the gear spacing: shift from 3rd at 4200 rpm drop to
3200 rpm in 4th (or something like that). This 3000 rpm to 4000 rpm was the
torque peak in the VW WBX. I haven't seen the charts for the Subaru WBX but
my feeling is that max. torque is closer to 5000 rpm. I have so much excess
power now that I have no need or desire to stretch the engine. This may
change as the nut behind the wheel goes through the conversion process. :-)
-L

GawznerJ@... wrote:

I wanted to get the lists experience for those that have completed
their conversions on driving habits. Not really being mechanically
inclined but wanting to treat my van in the very best manner
possible, I am curious as to when most people shift (RPM) and what
cruising speed on a highway is perfectly fine with the vehicle.

For example, driving about town I find that my ears tell me to shift
about 4300. However, on the highway, I tend to cruise at about 70
which is about 4100-4200 on my tach. I have heard the redline is
over 6500 and that pulls up hills at 5000 for several minutes is not
a problem at all.

Hobart at KEP in a p-email mentioned that his auto is set to shift at
about 5000 rpm, but said that I could shift whenever.

My mechanic mentioned that this engine is very well balanced and can
stand easily the higher RPMS. I have noted that if I shift at 5000
then engine handles it just fine, just that to my uneducated ears it
sounds a bit wound out.

So, I am sorta confused about if my ears tell me to shift at 4300,
then why would I want to cruise at that speed - will I not be putting
too much pressure on the motor?

BTW, I am really enjoying the newfound freedom the subie conversion
gives me. There is decent power off the line and I really like the
freeway power. In my 77 bus I constantly worry about max speed, but
in the subie not at all. Regarding power, I also have a 93 Toy
Landcruiser and hafta say that climbing steep hills (freeway) that
while the Toy is a bit more powerful, I can take some very steep
hills with little loss in speed and perhaps at 90% of the "curve"
provided by the Toy. I am amazed and very pleased.

I look forward to the list's responses!

Joe

90 Westy Syncro

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Re: DIFFICULT COLD START

 

I may have already replied, but being new at this, I think somehow I
never did get my comments executed, hence if this is a repeat, I
apologize.

I was following with interest the thread on cold starts. My
observation is not quite as serious at Kjanda's:

I find that when the engine is cold that it turns over just fine - I
just need to keep the rpms at 1000-1100 for about 10 sec before the
engine will not die and stay in idle. Once this is done, no problems
at all. That nice quiet, almost inperceptible idle! However, I do
need to add some pressure when starting the engine. Any ideas??


Joe

90 Westy Syncro

--- In subaruvanagon@..., "kjanda" <kjanda@p...> wrote:
HOW DOES THE COLD SYSTEM OPERATE??


Cruising Speeds

 

I wanted to get the lists experience for those that have completed
their conversions on driving habits. Not really being mechanically
inclined but wanting to treat my van in the very best manner
possible, I am curious as to when most people shift (RPM) and what
cruising speed on a highway is perfectly fine with the vehicle.

For example, driving about town I find that my ears tell me to shift
about 4300. However, on the highway, I tend to cruise at about 70
which is about 4100-4200 on my tach. I have heard the redline is
over 6500 and that pulls up hills at 5000 for several minutes is not
a problem at all.

Hobart at KEP in a p-email mentioned that his auto is set to shift at
about 5000 rpm, but said that I could shift whenever.

My mechanic mentioned that this engine is very well balanced and can
stand easily the higher RPMS. I have noted that if I shift at 5000
then engine handles it just fine, just that to my uneducated ears it
sounds a bit wound out.

So, I am sorta confused about if my ears tell me to shift at 4300,
then why would I want to cruise at that speed - will I not be putting
too much pressure on the motor?

BTW, I am really enjoying the newfound freedom the subie conversion
gives me. There is decent power off the line and I really like the
freeway power. In my 77 bus I constantly worry about max speed, but
in the subie not at all. Regarding power, I also have a 93 Toy
Landcruiser and hafta say that climbing steep hills (freeway) that
while the Toy is a bit more powerful, I can take some very steep
hills with little loss in speed and perhaps at 90% of the "curve"
provided by the Toy. I am amazed and very pleased.

I look forward to the list's responses!

Joe

90 Westy Syncro


Re: Upset with Hobert!

Bill Knight
 

...snip
that he was running a company
...snip

That's right, he is running a company. If your credit card is denied,
then ANY company will not ship you your order! He is not in the
credit business, nor should he waste his staff time chasing down
delinquent accounts. Your complaint is totally irresponsible. YOU
are the one with the problem. YOU are the one with the poor credit
resources and you should be grateful if he will still do business with
you. If you can't afford to play in this game, then you should stick
to a stock Vanagon configuration.


A Reminder from Group Moderator

Warren Chapman
 

I have been off the list for a couple of days and was pleased, when I
returned to see the number of new messages .......... I
thought..."Great! A bunch of new information."

How dissapointed I was (and such a waste of everyone's time) to read
all these messages about "shipping charges".

I would like to remind everyone about the PURPOSE of this list which
is stated clearly on the main page. The purpose of this list is for
sharing HELPFUL information about installing SUBARU engines into
VANAGONS.

Please consider before posting......."IS WHAT I AM WRITING HELPFUL
INFORMATION FOR THE GROUP (OR A QUESTION ABOUT MY CONVERSION)?"

Above all, the purpose of the list is (good will) sharing with intent
to help each other. Personal grievances should be settled in other
ways or in another forums.

Also, questions about engines other than SUBARU and vehicles other
than VANAGONS, (while interesting to some) should be kindly
(but quickly) referred to other lists, sources, or locations.

Please respect the focus and purpose of this list and the valuable
effort and time of all list members.

Warren Chapman


Re: oil pan

 

At 04:04 AM 6/21/00 -0000, you wrote:
I modified my oil pan about half a year ago and it works great.
Thanks! Very informative post. Anyone looked into the Amsoil
dual remote filter system, adds about 1.5 qts capacity which would
make up for 'simply' slicing 2" off the bottom of the pan? Bonus
is you get typical AN typ fittings that would let you add an oil
cooler easily if wanted and another qt.+ of oil. I think the Amsoil
stuff is about $150, adapter for your oil filter location, hoses, two big
filters hung on body of vehicle. Tim


Fuel Line

Richard Hill
 

Hello
I am trying to get my ghia preped before the engine gets in. Does
anyone know what size flexible (rubber) fuel line attaches to a 2.2 L
engine (fuel rail)? I have to run new fuel line to the fuel tank.

Richard


Re: Upset with Hobert!

 

I don't think it's a good idea to use the Subaru-vanagon list to beat
up Hobert. The amount of work he has to do must be stupendous and he
takes his time to graciously answer questions whenever he can.
Without him we are nothing.

If Hobert were to stop listening in, we would all be the losers. I
think any problems should be solved personally, publically.

FWIW most everyone else is quite thankful for any attention they get
from Hobert. I suggest you forget about shipping and save your
graces in case you have to ask him a technical question.

Hear hear!


Re: Subie engines for sale

 

e other is a 2.7 tx6 complete with harness and computers 92000 miles
and runes like new. Price is 750.00>

If interested contact George Reed mailto:hotvw@... not me.
-Larry
I have heard that the 2.7liter ER27 six is best avoided. I also seem to
remember Hobert Kennedy saying something similar.


Re: 6 cylinder

 

Hi I'm new to the list and was wondering if anyone has done
aconversion using the subaru six.


I haven't fitted it yet, and it may be quite a while before I can afford to
move on the installation, but I do have an EG33 engine from an SVX waiting
to go in. Why bother with an EJ18, 20, 22 or 25 when you can have the six?

But DON'T make the mistake of fitting an ER27 (the orphan unlovable SOHC
Alcyone/Vortex engine), which Hobert Kennedy advises against using.

The delay in fitting is due to finances and finding a suitable Porsche
transmission to go with it.


Re: Syncro conversion website

 

The 912 is the early 356 powered 911. The 912E is the 70's model with the
Porsche 914 engine (which is actually a VW type 4 engine, with a bit more
agression (but basically the same))

Allan :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Smith <SMITHT@...>
To: <subaruvanagon@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: Syncro conversion website


At 11:59 PM 6/19/00 -0500, you wrote:
Tim - that Porsche of yours - well, interested in maybe selling it
someday?

Nevah! It's California plates are hanging in the garage, car is top
notch,
except for engine. My fault, redid heads/rings two years back and used up
what little was left in the mains.

Keep checking ebay, a 912 is the 'poormans' Porsche, 4cyl/95HP etc. Uses
older
356 engine, or if mid-70's has the 914 engine. Cheap(er) to maintain,
28+mpg if driven modestly, in top shape 120mph. And lighter/better
balanced
than the rear heavy 911. They go for $5-10K US in respectable shape,
but a tired engine can run $2-4K for rebuild! Add $1K for trans etc etc.

bye, Tim


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oil pan

leon korkin
 

I modified my oil pan about half a year ago and it works great.
I can drive on dirt roads without worrying about hitting oil pan.It
already happened to me "in the middle of nowhere" and caused huge
problem, which prompted me to change oil pan. Here is what was done.
Bottom was cut using mill by ab. 2" so the hight of cut pan became
ab 4". The back was cut down ab. 2 and1/4" extra to accomodate
extension box.Then extension box (about 2 and 1/4" deep,7 and 1/4"
wide and 5 and 1/2" long)was created and welded to main pan and made
out of one piece of steel.The drain was made out of 1/2-20 nut turned
at the bottom and welded to bottom of extension, with hole drilled on
the side for more complete drainage.To gain access to one of the pan'
mounting screws blocked by extension, piece of steel tubing(cut from
oil pick-up tube) was welded into extension allowing access with
socket wrench.
The oil pick-up was modified by first unbrazing the screen cup,
cutting most of the tube length and brazing screen cup back in same
position relative to mounting flange.The bottom of the oil pick-up
is ar. 1/2" above oil pan bottom.Then the remaining baffles were
modified slightly to accomodate modified oil pick-up.I used Dremel
moto-tool to cut buffles by hand, using cut and try technic.It is
done after bottom of the pan is cut off.The clamp supporting oil
pick-up tube was discarded.After complete assembly i primed and
spray-painted the oil pan.
Note about rear heater.One of the coolant lines at the rear heater
may have restrictor- plastic washer that cuts flow by large amount
even if heater flow valve is completely open, causing overheating.
Also, check front heater valve, located above spare tire close to
fan.It may be leaking...


Re: Upset with Hobert!

Tom Myers
 

Just my opinion here.

I don't think it's a good idea to use the Subaru-vanagon list to beat up Hobert. The amount of work he has to do must be stupendous and he takes his time to graciously answer questions whenever he can. Without him we are nothing.

If Hobert were to stop listening in, we would all be the losers. I think any problems should be solved personally, publically.

FWIW most everyone else is quite thankful for any attention they get from Hobert. I suggest you forget about shipping and save your graces in case you have to ask him a technical question.

Tom
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Re: Upset with Hobert!

KEP
 

FYI

We had already tried the "new" card number yesterday - it was also declined.
When Hobert called right back today to confirm that the situation with his
"new" credit card had changed (using the telephone number provided) he got
an answering machine. Customer called back after UPS had already picked up.

Customer did not speak to Hobert Kennedy later in the day, he spoke to Dave.
Hobert was not here in the shop. Hobert has not had a chance to respond to
customer's request for 2nd day air; thus did not say, "Tuff".

It takes time to type up the orders and get them in the UPS system, when we
get a decline we have to scrap it and start over. I am the one who was not
willing to try the card again without some assurance that the situation had
changed - today was a very busy shipping day.

Susan

P.S. The difference between 3 day select and 2nd day air is $1.50 - Dave
said he would cover it.


Kennedy Engineered Products
38830 17th St. East
Palmdale, CA 93550

(661) 272-1147

----- Original Message -----
From: <b.l.yonker@...>
To: <subaruvanagon@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 4:28 PM
Subject: [subaruvanagon] Upset with Hobert!


I just got off the phone with Hobert Kennedy. I ordered the radiator
fittings the other day and the card I used was declined (not much
money when you have a Vanagon). So I called him back today with a
good card with ample money on it to get my parts. Everything was OK
and he assured me that the parts would go out today so I would
receive them by Friday. In the phone conversation later with Hobert,
he said that they didn't even try my credit card. Now it is too late
to ship my parts to get them out by Friday. I got pretty upset and
thought that he should cover the charges to assure that my parts
would be here by Friday and he declined. I asked him about the fact
that he was running a company and was not giving good service and his
words were "tuff"! Do you guys(loyal Subaru conversion supporters
like myself) think that this is the right attitude for Hobert to take
and should he cover the shipping charges to get my parts to me by
Friday?


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Re: 6 cylinder

KEP
 

The SVX will use the same adapter and motor mounts as the 2.2. The wiring
is similar to 2.2 but does require a speed sensor. The 230 horse would be
rough on the trans if abused. We plan to try one when we find the time. It
will require a 1" bump in the lid.

The 2.7 six uses the 1.8 OHC kit, but only makes 145 horse and would not be
as compatible with the Vanagon gearing as the 2.2.

Hobert Kennedy
Kennedy Engineered Products
38830 17th St. East
Palmdale, CA 93550

(661) 272-1147

----- Original Message -----
From: <afeist@...>
To: <subaruvanagon@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 10:50 AM
Subject: [subaruvanagon] 6 cylinder


Hi I'm new to the list and was wondering if anyone has done
aconversion using the subaru six.


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Re: Subie engines for sale

 

What year is the 2.2 engine?
Sorry, the original posting wasn't from me,


try this though......

If interested contact George Reed mailto: hotvw@...
bye, Tim