Go figure indeed! They don't need to sell much to get rich, and they probably have a glowing highly suspect technical description of how wonderful it is, so someone will buy it.
I'd use your Lucas. The SB lathe spindle is not by any stretch of the imagination an extreme application.
In British Rail's Diesel engine section at HQ we had an immensely thick file on fuel additives that snake oil salesmen tried to sell us, all aimed at saving fuel. A few got as far as a lab engine test without getting any further, as they cost more to buy than the fuel they saved (or didn't save). With the exception of 1, now I come to think of it. Water. We ran a 2500 HP Sulzer engine in traffic on a water fuel emulsion for a while, and saved a lot of fuel. The experiment unfortunately got terminated when someone shut down the engine for a weekend without running it on neat fuel for a few minutes first. By Monday, the jerk pumps were rusty internally. Ho hum.
Cheers,
Eddie
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From: "Andrei" <calciu1@...>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 21:04
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
Indeed. The U.S. Gallon is 3.7854 liters (litres on your side of the pond).
A gallon of Lucas ISO 22 oil costs here $6.08 which is 4.97 UK Pounds. And this is the cheapest I found.
More interesting is that I found a couple of providers offering a similar gallon size for $133. Go figure.
And presumably you are talking gallons of 3 3/4 litres, rather than gallons of 4.5 litres. Standard container size here now is 4 litres or 20 litres rather than gallons and 5 gallons that we had when I was a lad. 25 litres existed for a while, but seems to have now rationalised to 20. Next size up is 205 litres, aka "barrel", a size chosen to eliminate arguments about the requirement to store containers on sealed bunds, since that starts at 200 litres.
Cheers,
Eddie
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From: "Andrei" <calciu1@...>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 20:45
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
Could not find any ISO 22 oil under 23 dollars per gallon (in USA)
South Bend spindle oil is nothing special. All the old names are probably obsolete. Any brand of ISO 22 viscosity (i.e. 22 centistokes at 40 degrees C) spindle oil will do. It should be quite a bit cheaper than the prices that folk here have been suggesting. Talk to your industrial oil merchants, not machinery merchants. Here in the English county of Derbyshire I have 3 suppliers within 20 miles of home. While you're collecting, you might like to pick up some ISO 68 slideway oil, also of any old brand, since that is the stuff for SB slideways. Google will find them for you, or if you really are isolated, try ebay.
On the same subject, I discovered recently that the modern generic equivalent of the Shell branded name unobtainable oil recommended for Colchester lathe main and feed gearboxes is just any old ISO 32 hydraulic oil.
Cheers,
Eddie
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From: "John Burt" <n9dvm@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 19:23
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
According to McMaster Carr, Mobile no longer packages Velocite 10 in gallons. They suggested and I purchased 3025K21 For about $25 for a Gallon. ISO 22, 100 SSU. There has been so much fake stuff on both Amazon and eBay that I don't tend to trust either very much.
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I meant to say 1 Liter of Lucas ISO 22 oil, not gallon. Lost my mind temporarily.?
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Indeed. The U.S. Gallon is 3.7854 liters (litres on your side of the pond).
A gallon of Lucas ISO 22 oil costs here $6.08 which is 4.97 UK Pounds. And this is the cheapest I found.?
More interesting is that I found a couple of providers offering a similar gallon size for $133. Go figure.?
And presumably you are talking gallons of 3 3/4 litres, rather than gallons of 4.5 litres. Standard container size here now is 4 litres or
20 litres rather than gallons and 5 gallons that we had when I was a lad. 25 litres existed for a while, but seems to have now rationalised to 20. Next size up is 205 litres, aka "barrel", a size chosen to eliminate arguments about the requirement to store
containers on sealed bunds, since that starts at 200 litres.
Cheers,
Eddie
------ Original Message ------
From: "Andrei" <calciu1@...>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 20:45
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
Could not find any ISO 22 oil under 23 dollars per gallon (in USA)
South Bend spindle oil is nothing special. All the old names are probably obsolete. Any brand of ISO 22 viscosity (i.e. 22 centistokes at 40 degrees C) spindle oil will do. It should
be quite a bit cheaper than the prices that folk here have been suggesting. Talk to your industrial oil merchants, not machinery merchants. Here in the English county of Derbyshire I have 3 suppliers within 20 miles of home. While you're collecting, you might
like to pick up some ISO 68 slideway oil, also of any old brand, since that is the stuff for SB slideways. Google will find them for you, or if you really are isolated, try ebay.
On the same subject, I discovered recently that the modern generic equivalent of the Shell branded name unobtainable oil recommended for Colchester lathe main and feed gearboxes is just any old ISO 32 hydraulic oil.
Cheers,
Eddie
------ Original Message ------
From: "John Burt" <n9dvm@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 19:23
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
According to McMaster Carr, Mobile no longer packages Velocite 10 in gallons.
They suggested and I purchased
3025K21
For about $25 for a Gallon.
ISO 22, 100 SSU.
There has been so much fake stuff on both Amazon and eBay that I don't tend to trust either very much.
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Indeed. The U.S. Gallon is 3.7854 liters (litres on your side of the pond).
A gallon of Lucas ISO 22 oil costs here $6.08 which is 4.97 UK Pounds. And this is the cheapest I found.?
More interesting is that I found a couple of providers offering a similar gallon size for $133. Go figure.?
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And presumably you are talking gallons of 3 3/4 litres, rather than gallons of 4.5 litres. Standard container size here now is 4 litres or
20 litres rather than gallons and 5 gallons that we had when I was a lad. 25 litres existed for a while, but seems to have now rationalised to 20. Next size up is 205 litres, aka "barrel", a size chosen to eliminate arguments about the requirement to store
containers on sealed bunds, since that starts at 200 litres.
Cheers,
Eddie
------ Original Message ------
From: "Andrei" <calciu1@...>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 20:45
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
Could not find any ISO 22 oil under 23 dollars per gallon (in USA)
South Bend spindle oil is nothing special. All the old names are probably obsolete. Any brand of ISO 22 viscosity (i.e. 22 centistokes at 40 degrees C) spindle oil will do. It should
be quite a bit cheaper than the prices that folk here have been suggesting. Talk to your industrial oil merchants, not machinery merchants. Here in the English county of Derbyshire I have 3 suppliers within 20 miles of home. While you're collecting, you might
like to pick up some ISO 68 slideway oil, also of any old brand, since that is the stuff for SB slideways. Google will find them for you, or if you really are isolated, try ebay.
On the same subject, I discovered recently that the modern generic equivalent of the Shell branded name unobtainable oil recommended for Colchester lathe main and feed gearboxes is just any old ISO 32 hydraulic oil.
Cheers,
Eddie
------ Original Message ------
From: "John Burt" <n9dvm@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 19:23
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
According to McMaster Carr, Mobile no longer packages Velocite 10 in gallons.
They suggested and I purchased
3025K21
For about $25 for a Gallon.
ISO 22, 100 SSU.
There has been so much fake stuff on both Amazon and eBay that I don't tend to trust either very much.
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And presumably you are talking gallons of 3 3/4 litres, rather than gallons of 4.5 litres. Standard container size here now is 4 litres or 20 litres rather than gallons and 5 gallons that we had when I was a lad. 25 litres existed for a while, but seems to have now rationalised to 20. Next size up is 205 litres, aka "barrel", a size chosen to eliminate arguments about the requirement to store containers on sealed bunds, since that starts at 200 litres.
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From: "Andrei" <calciu1@...>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 20:45
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
Could not find any ISO 22 oil under 23 dollars per gallon (in USA)
South Bend spindle oil is nothing special. All the old names are probably obsolete. Any brand of ISO 22 viscosity (i.e. 22 centistokes at 40 degrees C) spindle oil will do. It should be quite a bit cheaper than the prices that folk here have been suggesting. Talk to your industrial oil merchants, not machinery merchants. Here in the English county of Derbyshire I have 3 suppliers within 20 miles of home. While you're collecting, you might like to pick up some ISO 68 slideway oil, also of any old brand, since that is the stuff for SB slideways. Google will find them for you, or if you really are isolated, try ebay.
On the same subject, I discovered recently that the modern generic equivalent of the Shell branded name unobtainable oil recommended for Colchester lathe main and feed gearboxes is just any old ISO 32 hydraulic oil.
Cheers,
Eddie
------ Original Message ------
From: "John Burt" <n9dvm@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 19:23
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
According to McMaster Carr, Mobile no longer packages Velocite 10 in gallons. They suggested and I purchased 3025K21 For about $25 for a Gallon. ISO 22, 100 SSU. There has been so much fake stuff on both Amazon and eBay that I don't tend to trust either very much.
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From: "Andrei" <calciu1@...>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 20:45
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
Could not find any ISO 22 oil under 23 dollars per gallon (in USA)
South Bend spindle oil is nothing special. All the old names are probably obsolete. Any brand of ISO 22 viscosity (i.e. 22 centistokes at 40 degrees C) spindle oil will do. It should be quite a bit cheaper than the prices that folk here have been suggesting. Talk to your industrial oil merchants, not machinery merchants. Here in the English county of Derbyshire I have 3 suppliers within 20 miles of home. While you're collecting, you might like to pick up some ISO 68 slideway oil, also of any old brand, since that is the stuff for SB slideways. Google will find them for you, or if you really are isolated, try ebay.
On the same subject, I discovered recently that the modern generic equivalent of the Shell branded name unobtainable oil recommended for Colchester lathe main and feed gearboxes is just any old ISO 32 hydraulic oil.
Cheers,
Eddie
------ Original Message ------
From: "John Burt" <n9dvm@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 19:23
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
According to McMaster Carr, Mobile no longer packages Velocite 10 in gallons. They suggested and I purchased 3025K21 For about $25 for a Gallon. ISO 22, 100 SSU. There has been so much fake stuff on both Amazon and eBay that I don't tend to trust either very much.
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Could not find any ISO 22 oil under 23 dollars per gallon (in USA)
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South Bend spindle oil is nothing special. All the old names are probably obsolete. Any brand of ISO 22 viscosity (i.e. 22 centistokes at 40
degrees C) spindle oil will do. It should be quite a bit cheaper than the prices that folk here have been suggesting. Talk to your industrial oil merchants, not machinery merchants. Here in the English county of Derbyshire I have 3 suppliers within 20 miles
of home. While you're collecting, you might like to pick up some ISO 68 slideway oil, also of any old brand, since that is the stuff for SB slideways. Google will find them for you, or if you really are isolated, try ebay.
On the same subject, I discovered recently that the modern generic equivalent of the Shell branded name unobtainable oil recommended for Colchester lathe main and feed gearboxes is just any old ISO 32 hydraulic oil.
Cheers,
Eddie
------ Original Message ------
From: "John Burt" <n9dvm@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 19:23
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
According to McMaster Carr, Mobile no longer packages Velocite 10 in gallons.
They suggested and I purchased
3025K21
For about $25 for a Gallon.
ISO 22, 100 SSU.
There has been so much fake stuff on both Amazon and eBay that I don't tend to trust either very much.
|
South Bend spindle oil is nothing special. All the old names are probably obsolete. Any brand of ISO 22 viscosity (i.e. 22 centistokes at 40 degrees C) spindle oil will do. It should be quite a bit cheaper than the prices that folk here have been suggesting. Talk to your industrial oil merchants, not machinery merchants. Here in the English county of Derbyshire I have 3 suppliers within 20 miles of home. While you're collecting, you might like to pick up some ISO 68 slideway oil, also of any old brand, since that is the stuff for SB slideways. Google will find them for you, or if you really are isolated, try ebay.
On the same subject, I discovered recently that the modern generic equivalent of the Shell branded name unobtainable oil recommended for Colchester lathe main and feed gearboxes is just any old ISO 32 hydraulic oil.
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------ Original Message ------
From: "John Burt" <n9dvm@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, 13 Jan, 23 At 19:23
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil
According to McMaster Carr, Mobile no longer packages Velocite 10 in gallons. They suggested and I purchased 3025K21 For about $25 for a Gallon. ISO 22, 100 SSU. There has been so much fake stuff on both Amazon and eBay that I don't tend to trust either very much.
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According to McMaster Carr, Mobile no longer packages Velocite 10 in gallons.?
?
They suggested and I purchased
3025K21
For about $25 for a Gallon.?
ISO 22, 100 SSU.
?
There has been so much fake stuff on both Amazon and eBay that I don't tend to trust either very much.
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On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 1:59 PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? WW Grainger usually has it , I've picked up or had stuff
shipped . Do you have a Machine tool store in the commercial area
where you live ? They should have it .
??? ??? These folks shoe it at $ 30.90 a gallon + freight
??? ???
??? ??? animal
On 1/13/2023 7:12 AM, Andrei wrote:
Penn Tools also sells it. You have to
pay shipping there. At amazon it is free delivery, if it comes
back in stock
Hasn't been available there
since before Christmas.? If someone finds another location,
or substitute, please post.
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 09:02:23 AM CST, Andrei
<calciu1@...> wrote:
Mobil
Velocite 10
you can get it in gallon sizes from Amazon
Good morning,
Whats the current go-to for spindle oil?
Thanks,
Payson.
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??? ??? WW Grainger usually has it , I've picked up or had stuff
shipped . Do you have a Machine tool store in the commercial area
where you live ? They should have it .
??? ??? These folks shoe it at $ 30.90 a gallon + freight
??? ???
??? ??? animal
On 1/13/2023 7:12 AM, Andrei wrote:
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Penn Tools also sells it. You have to
pay shipping there. At amazon it is free delivery, if it comes
back in stock
Hasn't been available there
since before Christmas.? If someone finds another location,
or substitute, please post.
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 09:02:23 AM CST, Andrei
<calciu1@...> wrote:
Mobil
Velocite 10
you can get it in gallon sizes from Amazon
Good morning,
Whats the current go-to for spindle oil?
Thanks,
Payson.
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Look at
$37.75 p/g.
Have? nice weekend,
Payson.
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One of there locations is just up the road.? But:?
"Unfortunately, this is not a stocked product for us and we’re not able to purchase a single gallon of this product. ?Sorry we’re not able to help with providing this product, but thank you for your enquiry."
But, thanks for the lead.
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 09:44:55 AM CST, ww_big_al <arknack@...> wrote:
PTS-tools ?(Solutions) has it. If you are near them, it is free shipping to their store. ? Al ?
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Andrei Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 10:13 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil ? Penn Tools also sells it. You have to pay shipping there. At amazon it is free delivery, if it comes back in stock
Hasn't been available there since before Christmas.? If someone finds another location, or substitute, please post. On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 09:02:23 AM CST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote: you can get it in gallon sizes from Amazon
Good morning,
Whats the current go-to for spindle oil?
Thanks,
Payson.
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This stuff is supposed to be equivalent to Velocite #10...
HTH!
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 09:10:15 AM CST, G K via groups.io <bug_hunter2000@...> wrote:
Hasn't been available there since before Christmas.? If someone finds another location, or substitute, please post.
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 09:02:23 AM CST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
Mobil Velocite 10
you can get it in gallon sizes from Amazon
Good morning,
Whats the current go-to for spindle oil?
Thanks,
Payson.
|
Saw a gallon advertised on ebay this morning.
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PTS-tools ?(Solutions) has it. If you are near them, it is free shipping to their store. ? Al ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Andrei Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 10:13 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Oil ? Penn Tools also sells it. You have to pay shipping there. At amazon it is free delivery, if it comes back in stock
Hasn't been available there since before Christmas.? If someone finds another location, or substitute, please post. On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 09:02:23 AM CST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote: you can get it in gallon sizes from Amazon
Good morning,
Whats the current go-to for spindle oil?
Thanks,
Payson.
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Penn Tools also sells it. You have to pay shipping there. At amazon it is free delivery, if it comes back in stock
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Hasn't been available there since before Christmas.? If someone finds another location, or substitute, please post.
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 09:02:23 AM CST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
Mobil Velocite 10
you can get it in gallon sizes from Amazon
Good morning,
Whats the current go-to for spindle oil?
Thanks,
Payson.
|
Hasn't been available there since before Christmas.? If someone finds another location, or substitute, please post.
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 09:02:23 AM CST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
Mobil Velocite 10
you can get it in gallon sizes from Amazon
Good morning,
Whats the current go-to for spindle oil?
Thanks,
Payson.
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Good morning,
Whats the current go-to for spindle oil?
Thanks,
Payson.
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Payson
Bill in OKC too
ww_big_al