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Re: Depth of cuts

David R8
 

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On my 10K I could take a .060 DOC no problem.?

On Jun 24, 2023, at 8:20 PM, Steven Schlegel <sc.schlegel@...> wrote:

?I have a simple question. How deep of cuts do you normally make?

I have a 1949 vintage SB9C, with 6 speeds. I replaced the 1/4 hp motor with a 1/2 HP one. I use carbide a lot, but HSS still gets used some. Many of the videos say I should take at least a 0.005" cut for the best finish. I usually cannot take more than 0.002" with dragging down, or stopping, the spindle.

What's reasonable for me?
Thanks, Steven


Depth of cuts

 

I have a simple question. How deep of cuts do you normally make?

I have a 1949 vintage SB9C, with 6 speeds. I replaced the 1/4 hp motor with a 1/2 HP one. I use carbide a lot, but HSS still gets used some. Many of the videos say I should take at least a 0.005" cut for the best finish. I usually cannot take more than 0.002" with dragging down, or stopping, the spindle.

What's reasonable for me?
Thanks, Steven


Re: SB 16" for sale in North of England

 

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What a shame. All that rust.

Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of eddie.draper@... via groups.io <eddie.draper@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2023 12:09:57 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] SB 16" for sale in North of England
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Anybody interested? On ebay. I have no connection with the vendor or ebay.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295762637622?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110003%26algo%3DSPLICE.IMAGESIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200818141841%26meid%3Df92eff385a5a433583df4a0127ed8ca1%26pid%3D101112%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D125987539241%26itm%3D295762637622%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2349624%26algv%3DImageSimWithSimv9Limev2CacheOnly&_trksid=p2349624.c101112.m1982&amdata=cksum%3A295762637622f92eff385a5a433583df4a0127ed8ca1%7Cenc%3AAQAIAAABAFyvRHL9pwWmSo5mFpt6yvq3U5yAdIfOufmTAr6ViClr8WoFkrymmkGtY%252Bhq1v6%252BJbRMfjniUX4KR%252FL%252BeFTbVWEcd5PdntzZUik3ARQao51JG4jTo0vw3jUISavlPAEvRNJvdCA%252BznFHm3dCGjdnht4%252FHevS%252FiJpXuxBbReltW%252BfQf6693crK6znWvCCbrOow%252BPgA9ixjqk8lCV00Mn9Xss84AaQK%252FzlTVC8qcJHMvLwMIPg%252FBgfOqYFjJ10J%252FKR9lgnAWMDXfhNUe5cAVU93N3MUWNcfCfx%252F8%252BUJXPzaFFzmZEmeOjR2fSKL%252F4gzBrziXAMe2y5K7nWDUjfbtjKEvU%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2349624


Eddie


SB 16" for sale in North of England

 

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Anybody interested? On ebay. I have no connection with the vendor or ebay.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295762637622?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110003%26algo%3DSPLICE.IMAGESIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200818141841%26meid%3Df92eff385a5a433583df4a0127ed8ca1%26pid%3D101112%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D125987539241%26itm%3D295762637622%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2349624%26algv%3DImageSimWithSimv9Limev2CacheOnly&_trksid=p2349624.c101112.m1982&amdata=cksum%3A295762637622f92eff385a5a433583df4a0127ed8ca1%7Cenc%3AAQAIAAABAFyvRHL9pwWmSo5mFpt6yvq3U5yAdIfOufmTAr6ViClr8WoFkrymmkGtY%252Bhq1v6%252BJbRMfjniUX4KR%252FL%252BeFTbVWEcd5PdntzZUik3ARQao51JG4jTo0vw3jUISavlPAEvRNJvdCA%252BznFHm3dCGjdnht4%252FHevS%252FiJpXuxBbReltW%252BfQf6693crK6znWvCCbrOow%252BPgA9ixjqk8lCV00Mn9Xss84AaQK%252FzlTVC8qcJHMvLwMIPg%252FBgfOqYFjJ10J%252FKR9lgnAWMDXfhNUe5cAVU93N3MUWNcfCfx%252F8%252BUJXPzaFFzmZEmeOjR2fSKL%252F4gzBrziXAMe2y5K7nWDUjfbtjKEvU%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2349624


Eddie


Re: 14.5” toolroom 8’ for sale in Neptune, NJ

 

Come on, we all know it's a 'parts lathe' to keep yours running in case of accident since it's antique and parts aren't made any longer...? I'm sure several of us would write you letters of reference for her...

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 6:19?AM Jyorge Maccaline <jm1gteam@...> wrote:
yes

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 5:57?AM George Meinschein via <gmeinschein=[email protected]> wrote:
Hey all,



$1500.? I can see that it has a double tumbler, taper attachment, thread dial, a steady rest and a bunch of collets.? I already have a 14.5” toolroom and I’m still tempted to drag it home, but that would risk me getting killed or worse.

-George M.


Re: 14.5” toolroom 8’ for sale in Neptune, NJ

 

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I think the lathe is big enough to slide a mattress under it, until the wife calms down. Go for it!


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jyorge Maccaline <jm1gteam@...>
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 12:54 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 14.5” toolroom 8’ for sale in Neptune, NJ
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yes

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 5:57?AM George Meinschein via <gmeinschein=[email protected]> wrote:
Hey all,



$1500.? I can see that it has a double tumbler, taper attachment, thread dial, a steady rest and a bunch of collets.? I already have a 14.5” toolroom and I’m still tempted to drag it home, but that would risk me getting killed or worse.

-George M.


Re: 14.5” toolroom 8’ for sale in Neptune, NJ

 

yes

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 5:57?AM George Meinschein via <gmeinschein=[email protected]> wrote:

Hey all,



$1500.? I can see that it has a double tumbler, taper attachment, thread dial, a steady rest and a bunch of collets.? I already have a 14.5” toolroom and I’m still tempted to drag it home, but that would risk me getting killed or worse.

-George M.


14.5” toolroom 8’ for sale in Neptune, NJ

 

Hey all,



$1500. ?I can see that it has a double tumbler, taper attachment, thread dial, a steady rest and a bunch of collets. ?I already have a 14.5” toolroom and I’m still tempted to drag it home, but that would risk me getting killed or worse.

-George M.


Re: V Belt

 

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First, let me be clear that I don’t get much oil on the flat belt.? I use a serpentine automotive belt, and the oil doesn’t seem to affect it adversely.? If it does, I simply tighten the belt.? I am talking about the v-belt on the motor.? There are two sources where the oil comes from: Sometimes I sling oil while lubricating the tool during a cut, especially when the RPMs are high.? This is a minor source on my motor belt.? The major source is oil from the bearings in the horizonal drive unit.? My bearings are cast iron, circa 1949.? The bearings still seem tight and have felt wipers in them. However, I sometimes get a squeal under heavy load, so I always fill the gits oilers before use.? I also use iso-68 weight oil to alleviate the squealing.

?

Steven

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From: Rick
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 4:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] V Belt

?

Any belt will slip if you get oil on it. I have several machines, getting oil on the belt has never happened to me. How are you getting oil on it?


On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 05:38 PM, Steven Schlegel wrote:

I have a link belt on my SB9c and it slips a lot. In the machining environment, it's impossible to keep oil off the pullies. It's smooth, but if it doesn't transfer the power...

?

Steven S

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of eddie.draper@... via groups.io <eddie.draper@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 1:09:46 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] V Belt

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A Gates V belt should be as close to perfect as makes no difference! An earlier post suggested warming it to ease the storage deflections out of it. I'd do it in a bucket of very hot water, not coiled, and then get it onto the machine as fast as possible while it is till warm and run it at medium speed, good tension, off load for an hour. If it is still causing bother after that, take it back to the shop. You could try sliding it manually along the V of a pulley and see if there are any obvious high spots, or carefully and lightly caress it with a stick of chalk while it is running to find a high spot. Just hope you don't find a high or low spot on one of your pulleys when you do this.

?

Is it a plain or notched belt, incidentally, please? I'd assume a modern cut edge type, not a wrapped one. Notched ones go round small radii easier as they are more flexible.

?

Eddie (UK)





------ Original Message ------
From: "Rick" <vwrick@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, 13 Jun, 23 At 21:01
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] V Belt

Get an Accurate-Link belt. They are available at Harbor Freight. I run these on all my machine tools.

?


Re: V Belt

 

Any belt will slip if you get oil on it. I have several machines, getting oil on the belt has never happened to me. How are you getting oil on it?


On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 05:38 PM, Steven Schlegel wrote:

I have a link belt on my SB9c and it slips a lot. In the machining environment, it's impossible to keep oil off the pullies. It's smooth, but if it doesn't transfer the power...
?
Steven S
?
Get

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of eddie.draper@... via groups.io <eddie.draper@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 1:09:46 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] V Belt
?
A Gates V belt should be as close to perfect as makes no difference! An earlier post suggested warming it to ease the storage deflections out of it. I'd do it in a bucket of very hot water, not coiled, and then get it onto the machine as fast as possible while it is till warm and run it at medium speed, good tension, off load for an hour. If it is still causing bother after that, take it back to the shop. You could try sliding it manually along the V of a pulley and see if there are any obvious high spots, or carefully and lightly caress it with a stick of chalk while it is running to find a high spot. Just hope you don't find a high or low spot on one of your pulleys when you do this.

?

Is it a plain or notched belt, incidentally, please? I'd assume a modern cut edge type, not a wrapped one. Notched ones go round small radii easier as they are more flexible.

?

Eddie (UK)




------ Original Message ------
From: "Rick" <vwrick@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, 13 Jun, 23 At 21:01
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] V Belt

Get an Accurate-Link belt. They are available at Harbor Freight. I run these on all my machine tools.


Re: V Belt

 

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How do you manage to splash your pullies??


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Steven Schlegel <sc.schlegel@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 5:38 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] V Belt
?
I have a link belt on my SB9c and it slips a lot. In the machining environment, it's impossible to keep oil off the pullies. It's smooth, but if it doesn't transfer the power...

Steven S

Get

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of eddie.draper@... via groups.io <eddie.draper@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 1:09:46 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] V Belt
?
A Gates V belt should be as close to perfect as makes no difference! An earlier post suggested warming it to ease the storage deflections out of it. I'd do it in a bucket of very hot water, not coiled, and then get it onto the machine as fast as possible while it is till warm and run it at medium speed, good tension, off load for an hour. If it is still causing bother after that, take it back to the shop. You could try sliding it manually along the V of a pulley and see if there are any obvious high spots, or carefully and lightly caress it with a stick of chalk while it is running to find a high spot. Just hope you don't find a high or low spot on one of your pulleys when you do this.


Is it a plain or notched belt, incidentally, please? I'd assume a modern cut edge type, not a wrapped one. Notched ones go round small radii easier as they are more flexible.


Eddie (UK)




------ Original Message ------
From: "Rick" <vwrick@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, 13 Jun, 23 At 21:01
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] V Belt

Get an Accurate-Link belt. They are available at Harbor Freight. I run these on all my machine tools.


Re: Looking for a steady rest

 

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Yes “Tools for Cheep” Jeff Beck.?
I was aware he retired but thought I should mention it as a possibility.?


Jim B,

On Jun 13, 2023, at 5:50 PM, ww_big_al <arknack@...> wrote:

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I believe you are referring to “Tools For Cheap” I purchased one from him for my 9a. Unfortunately, he retired and is no longer there.

Al

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Greg
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 5:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Looking for a steady rest

?

Thanks Jim. Don't suppose you have any other info?on who he is or how I could find him? Greg

?

On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 1:28?PM Jim_B <jim@...> wrote:

There used to be a Vendor, who had Steady’s to fit most of the SB lathes. They were custom made in China.?

His first name was Jeff.?

I can’t remember the company.?

I had one for my Heavy 10.?

Perhaps you could find one of his.?

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?

Jim B,



On Jun 13, 2023, at 12:32 PM, Greg <condor6213@...> wrote:

?

Thanks John. Advise when you can. Greg

?

On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 11:55 AM Ruth Busch via <jbusch=[email protected]> wrote:

I may have one.? I will look around when I can.??

?

Email: jbusch@...

?

John

?

Minnesota

?

On Tue, 13 Jun, 2023 at 9:44 AM, Greg <condor6213@...> wrote:

?

Hey Folks. I am looking for a steady rest for a 10L Heavy. Anybody got a spare you're looking to sell? I know that the 9 & 10K rests are basically the same (or exactly, IDK). But can anyone out there tell me if a steady rest from another SB lathe is the same as (or will fit on) the 10L heavy? Maybe I'm limiting my search too much and need to start looking for steady rests that will fit the 10L heavy AS WELL AS the XXXXX? Thanks, Greg


--
Jim B


--
Jim B


Re: Looking for a steady rest

 

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I believe you are referring to “Tools For Cheap” I purchased one from him for my 9a. Unfortunately, he retired and is no longer there.

Al

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Greg
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 5:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Looking for a steady rest

?

Thanks Jim. Don't suppose you have any other info?on who he is or how I could find him? Greg

?

On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 1:28?PM Jim_B <jim@...> wrote:

There used to be a Vendor, who had Steady’s to fit most of the SB lathes. They were custom made in China.?

His first name was Jeff.?

I can’t remember the company.?

I had one for my Heavy 10.?

Perhaps you could find one of his.?

?

?

Jim B,



On Jun 13, 2023, at 12:32 PM, Greg <condor6213@...> wrote:

?

Thanks John. Advise when you can. Greg

?

On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 11:55 AM Ruth Busch via <jbusch=[email protected]> wrote:

I may have one.? I will look around when I can.??

?

Email: jbusch@...

?

John

?

Minnesota

?

On Tue, 13 Jun, 2023 at 9:44 AM, Greg <condor6213@...> wrote:

?

Hey Folks. I am looking for a steady rest for a 10L Heavy. Anybody got a spare you're looking to sell? I know that the 9 & 10K rests are basically the same (or exactly, IDK). But can anyone out there tell me if a steady rest from another SB lathe is the same as (or will fit on) the 10L heavy? Maybe I'm limiting my search too much and need to start looking for steady rests that will fit the 10L heavy AS WELL AS the XXXXX? Thanks, Greg


--
Jim B


Re: V Belt

 

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I have a link belt on my SB9c and it slips a lot. In the machining environment, it's impossible to keep oil off the pullies. It's smooth, but if it doesn't transfer the power...

Steven S

Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of eddie.draper@... via groups.io <eddie.draper@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 1:09:46 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] V Belt
?
A Gates V belt should be as close to perfect as makes no difference! An earlier post suggested warming it to ease the storage deflections out of it. I'd do it in a bucket of very hot water, not coiled, and then get it onto the machine as fast as possible while it is till warm and run it at medium speed, good tension, off load for an hour. If it is still causing bother after that, take it back to the shop. You could try sliding it manually along the V of a pulley and see if there are any obvious high spots, or carefully and lightly caress it with a stick of chalk while it is running to find a high spot. Just hope you don't find a high or low spot on one of your pulleys when you do this.


Is it a plain or notched belt, incidentally, please? I'd assume a modern cut edge type, not a wrapped one. Notched ones go round small radii easier as they are more flexible.


Eddie (UK)




------ Original Message ------
From: "Rick" <vwrick@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, 13 Jun, 23 At 21:01
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] V Belt

Get an Accurate-Link belt. They are available at Harbor Freight. I run these on all my machine tools.


Re: Looking for a steady rest

 

Thanks a lot Animal. I forgot to post there. Just now made the post. Greg


On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 1:33?PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

??? ??? You might try over on? the South Bend group over on the Practical Machinist forum

or email Ted @ latheman2@...

animal

??? ???

On 6/13/23 7:24 AM, Greg wrote:
Hey Folks. I am looking for a steady rest for a 10L Heavy. Anybody got a spare you're looking to sell? I know that the 9 & 10K rests are basically the same (or exactly, IDK). But can anyone out there tell me if a steady rest from another SB lathe is the same as (or will fit on) the 10L heavy? Maybe I'm limiting my search too much and need to start looking for steady rests that will fit the 10L heavy AS WELL AS the XXXXX? Thanks, Greg


Re: Looking for a steady rest

 

Thanks Jim. Don't suppose you have any other info?on who he is or how I could find him? Greg


On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 1:28?PM Jim_B <jim@...> wrote:
There used to be a Vendor, who had Steady’s to fit most of the SB lathes. They were custom made in China.?
His first name was Jeff.?
I can’t remember the company.?
I had one for my Heavy 10.?
Perhaps you could find one of his.?
image0.jpeg



Jim B,

On Jun 13, 2023, at 12:32 PM, Greg <condor6213@...> wrote:

?
Thanks John. Advise when you can. Greg

On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 11:55 AM Ruth Busch via <jbusch=[email protected]> wrote:

I may have one.? I will look around when I can.??


Email: jbusch@...


John


Minnesota



On Tue, 13 Jun, 2023 at 9:44 AM, Greg <condor6213@...> wrote:
?
Hey Folks. I am looking for a steady rest for a 10L Heavy. Anybody got a spare you're looking to sell? I know that the 9 & 10K rests are basically the same (or exactly, IDK). But can anyone out there tell me if a steady rest from another SB lathe is the same as (or will fit on) the 10L heavy? Maybe I'm limiting my search too much and need to start looking for steady rests that will fit the 10L heavy AS WELL AS the XXXXX? Thanks, Greg


--
Jim B


Re: V Belt

 

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A Gates V belt should be as close to perfect as makes no difference! An earlier post suggested warming it to ease the storage deflections out of it. I'd do it in a bucket of very hot water, not coiled, and then get it onto the machine as fast as possible while it is till warm and run it at medium speed, good tension, off load for an hour. If it is still causing bother after that, take it back to the shop. You could try sliding it manually along the V of a pulley and see if there are any obvious high spots, or carefully and lightly caress it with a stick of chalk while it is running to find a high spot. Just hope you don't find a high or low spot on one of your pulleys when you do this.


Is it a plain or notched belt, incidentally, please? I'd assume a modern cut edge type, not a wrapped one. Notched ones go round small radii easier as they are more flexible.


Eddie (UK)




------ Original Message ------
From: "Rick" <vwrick@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, 13 Jun, 23 At 21:01
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] V Belt

Get an Accurate-Link belt. They are available at Harbor Freight. I run these on all my machine tools.


Re: V Belt

 

Get an Accurate-Link belt. They are available at Harbor Freight. ?I run these on all my machine tools.


Re: Looking for a steady rest

 

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??? ??? You might try over on? the South Bend group over on the Practical Machinist forum

or email Ted @ latheman2@...

animal

??? ???

On 6/13/23 7:24 AM, Greg wrote:

Hey Folks. I am looking for a steady rest for a 10L Heavy. Anybody got a spare you're looking to sell? I know that the 9 & 10K rests are basically the same (or exactly, IDK). But can anyone out there tell me if a steady rest from another SB lathe is the same as (or will fit on) the 10L heavy? Maybe I'm limiting my search too much and need to start looking for steady rests that will fit the 10L heavy AS WELL AS the XXXXX? Thanks, Greg


Re: Looking for a steady rest

 

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There used to be a Vendor, who had Steady’s to fit most of the SB lathes. They were custom made in China.?
His first name was Jeff.?
I can’t remember the company.?
I had one for my Heavy 10.?
Perhaps you could find one of his.?
image0.jpeg



Jim B,

On Jun 13, 2023, at 12:32 PM, Greg <condor6213@...> wrote:

?
Thanks John. Advise when you can. Greg

On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 11:55 AM Ruth Busch via <jbusch=[email protected]> wrote:

I may have one.? I will look around when I can.??


Email: jbusch@...


John


Minnesota



On Tue, 13 Jun, 2023 at 9:44 AM, Greg <condor6213@...> wrote:
?
Hey Folks. I am looking for a steady rest for a 10L Heavy. Anybody got a spare you're looking to sell? I know that the 9 & 10K rests are basically the same (or exactly, IDK). But can anyone out there tell me if a steady rest from another SB lathe is the same as (or will fit on) the 10L heavy? Maybe I'm limiting my search too much and need to start looking for steady rests that will fit the 10L heavy AS WELL AS the XXXXX? Thanks, Greg


--
Jim B