Son and I rebuilding 14-1/2¡¯¡¯ and need apron hand wheel,
can't find an original but can get a cast iron wheel that looks close fairly
cheap. Can someone tell us the size of original wheel, part book no
help listed as NLA. Also is either 13¡¯¡¯ or 16¡¯¡¯ a match?
Apron has a hub sticking out 2-1/4¡¯¡¯, shaft is 5/8¡¯¡¯diameter and sticks
out 1-1/4¡¯¡¯ with through hole for pin. Hope this helps?
Any help would be greatly appreciated and thank you.
Dennis
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Re: Looking for HSS inserts
Hey Eddie, yeah I know about the tip radius but that was what came on it. I didn¡¯t do my usual research on this tool before buying & just assumed I would be able to find a HSS insert with a smaller nose radius. Dumb move. Oh, and I know about the chipped tip in the back. Thanks
You are unlikely to get a good finish from a small lathe with that tip, as it has a rather large nose radius. If you look at any carbide manufacturer's website, you will find the carbide tip codes broken down to what they mean, which will help you select something more suitable, then search ebay etc. for it. Also, you already have at least one blunt corner (the one where the gold coloured coating (which should be Titanium Nitride aka TiN) is removed.
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Re: Looking for HSS inserts
Hey George, thanks for the response. I have tried 12L14, 1018, something I can¡¯t identify, as well as 6061 Aluminum. Have tried every speed & feed combo I can think of, no joy. I have a number of other tool holders & have no problems with them. Carbide insert¡¯s of course don¡¯t perform as well as the HSS inserts do in the other tool holders, and I had hoped to find HSS inserts for this holder. Greg
On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 16:38 George Steube < at6c@...> wrote:
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Re: Looking for HSS inserts
The problem is the negative rake tool holder.? They are not intended
for light duty machines.? Also what metal are? you trying to cut??
If it's steel make life is on you and the machine use a leaded steel
like 12L14 not something from HD or a yard sale.? Replace the tool
holder with a neutral rake holder and triangular inserts.?? Good
luck.
George
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Hello all. I am looking for a source for HSS inserts to fit a
particular lathe tool I bought not long ago from Shars. The tool
(MWLN Tri-lock tool) came with a carbide insert (WNMG 332) but no
matter what I do I can't get a decent cut with it. Am hoping that
switching to a HSS insert will improve the situation considering
the fact that carbide is really intended for speeds a little
higher than my South Bend 10 heavy is made for. Shars told me that
they do not carry any HSS inserts that will fit that tool. And I
have been looking at other sources to no avail. Although I don't
really know a good way to search. You can't search for "WNMG 332"
cause you then come up with the above listed carbide insert.
Thought I'd bounce it off of you nice folks and maybe somebody has
a source I don't know about.
    
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OT, buying bulk fasteners
Where do you guys find the best deals on bulk fasteners?? Sometimes we find a good price at Home Repot or Lowes for 25# containers of deck screws, but we've been using a lot of the Timberlok and similar type structural screws for wood projects.? Talking everything from 2-16" long.? Also Tek screws,? washer type with rubber gaskets.?
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SB lathe FS Gardnerville NV
Hot min , just passin on . Looks like a pretty clean 9C
??? animal
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Re: change gear sets on epay
These gears are for the 7X lathes. They
won't "DIRECT FIT" a SBL.
Thanks for the tip tho...
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I have a tiny experience with Vevor. I
bought a S/H Colchester Triumph 2000 lathe recently (3 phase 7HP
motor) off the same web market place and it came with a 7kW 230V
3 phase Vevor badged inverter that I didn't need and was in
working order, BUT missing the cover over the terminals. Vevor
do not & cannot supply any spares. It appears that if you
have a warranty claim within the first year (UK statutory
period, other countries may vary) you are likely to get a
complete replacement unit.
Fortunately, the chap I sold the inverter to (via the same
internet web sales site as mentioned below - other sites
might be available, although I doubt whether the Vinted
client base would be interested) was a practical sort of
chap well able to make his own cover and has reported being
delighted.
SO, if you lose or damage one of their gears outside the
warranty period, expect to have to buy a full set again. I
think.
Incidentally, the full semi intelligible manual for the
Vevor inverter was available on the web. I was amazed how
cheap a new Inverter would be.
I may also have spotted the same inverter with a different
badge on it. It was a while back. Chinese, obviously.
Eddie
------ Original Message ------
From: "Nick Andrews" <nickjandrews@...>
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, 4 Apr, 23 At 15:29
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] change gear sets on epay
I don't need these for my lathe but they are inexpensive and might work for others with older lathes or even for any gearing projects. Seems like this Vevor brand is really ramping up to try and be a one-stop for machining stuff.
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I have a tiny experience with Vevor. I bought a S/H Colchester Triumph 2000 lathe recently (3 phase 7HP motor) off the same web market place and it came with a 7kW 230V 3 phase Vevor badged inverter that I didn't need and was in working order, BUT missing the cover over the terminals. Vevor do not & cannot supply any spares. It appears that if you have a warranty claim within the first year (UK statutory period, other countries may vary) you are likely to get a complete replacement unit.
Fortunately, the chap I sold the inverter to (via the same internet web sales site as mentioned below - other sites might be available, although I doubt whether the Vinted client base would be interested) was a practical sort of chap well able to make his own cover and has reported being delighted.
SO, if you lose or damage one of their gears outside the warranty period, expect to have to buy a full set again. I think.
Incidentally, the full semi intelligible manual for the Vevor inverter was available on the web. I was amazed how cheap a new Inverter would be.
I may also have spotted the same inverter with a different badge on it. It was a while back. Chinese, obviously.
Eddie
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------ Original Message ------
From: "Nick Andrews" <nickjandrews@...>
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, 4 Apr, 23 At 15:29
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] change gear sets on epay
I don't need these for my lathe but they are inexpensive and might work for others with older lathes or even for any gearing projects. Seems like this Vevor brand is really ramping up to try and be a one-stop for machining stuff.
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I don't need these for my lathe but they are inexpensive and might work for others with older lathes or even for any gearing projects.? Seems like this Vevor brand is really ramping up to try and be a one-stop for machining stuff.
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Re: Selling my Heavy 10x36
Oren, did you send me some photos yesterday? I have this vague memory of dumping something from my spam folder that had a link to photos in it, when I was in a rush yesterday. I would like to come out and see your lathe, but I've been running a fever the past couple of days, don't think I want to be sharing it just yet.?
Also, have you had a chance to think about what you want for it. Do you know when it was made? And how long is the bed. I know you said 36", but is that the whole machine or the working length of the bed? Single or double tumbler gear box, or change gears? One I have is 1941 vintage, with a 4-1/2' bed. Gives it about 30" working length IIRC. Not that I've ever seen it work, but I got it cheap when Bill H. realized he wasn't going to live long enough to get it back running again.?
Bill in OKC
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Re: OT Maybe? Hand cleaners
??? ??? Thats too bad , " steering grease " has screw up many of
folks with motors involved .
??? ??? animal
On 4/1/2023 12:13 PM, James Rice wrote:
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The vegetable oil
refinery used a tan powder they spread on the floor and washed
it down to get the grease off.? It turned a brillant
chartreuse?yellow-green as soon as the hot water and steam mix
from the wash down hose hit it. It was very effective but
tended to erode the concrete floors unless they were epoxy
sealed yearly. One of my apprentices got some and tried to
clean his hands.? It did remove the grease along with several
layers of skin and caused major?caustic burns requiring
hospitalization.? He missed two weeks of work.? I alway knew
he wasn't real bright but he was a hard worker as long as he
had almost constant supervision. Not long after he returned to
work he took a beer fueled dare involving an
impossible?motocross?jump and really messed up his leg needing
several surgeries to get the bones aligned right and
knitting.? I had no idea why he did it since he had no
motocross experience and it was his first?time on two?wheels.
After being off several months with?no?ETA of his return, I
had to lay him off.? I never knew what happened to him.
James
On Sat, Apr 1, 2023 at 1:58?PM
mike allen < animal@...>
wrote:
??? ??? I started using Simple Green for hand cleaning .
When I get to the point that I need to clean up but not
done wit the job I just spray it on my hands? & work
it like i was washing my hands &
?? ???? then? dry off with paper towels . At the end of
the day/project then I use hand cleaner . I've save a ton
of hand cleaner in the last couple of years . I keep one
spray bottle at the lathe , one on each tool cart &
one under the sink . I get the 2 1/2 gallon jugs when
their on sale , lasts a long time .
??? ??? I do remember at one of the gas stations I
wrenched at in the 70's we hag? bag of some green cleaner
that we'd scoop a handful of & wash our hands & at
the end of the day we spread some of it out on the floor
& hit it with water & scrub the floor with it .
I'm not sure it really washed our hands , I think it more
then likely just removed the top layer of our skin so it
looked clean .
??? ??? ymmv
??? ??? animal
On 4/1/2023 11:33 AM, James Rice wrote:
In 30 years of
working in every type of industrial plant from
vegetable oil processing and refining to foundries to
a Michelin-Uniroyal-BFGoodrich?tire plant I got plenty
dirty.? The vegetable oil refinery smelled the worst,
the tire plant was the dirtiest especially if you
worked on the rubber mix end where the ground up
natural latex was mixed with oil and carbon black.? I
worked a Christmas shutdown there once and spent 14
hours disconnecting instruments and pumps. I walked in
shiny?clean at 6am 12/24 and walked out at 9pm.? I
wondered why the cute lady security guard looked at me
so funny when I?surrendered?my badge but went out to
the truck for the hour drive home. When I looked in
the rear view mirror I was totally coated in black oil
sludge.? All you could see was the whites of my eyes
and my teeth.? It took two hours in the shower and a
quart of Pine Sol to get the crap off me and my 50
gallon HWH ran cold long before?I was finished.
I
remember?that green power hand cleaner from some plant
I worked at, maybe Kraft in Jacksonville, IL.? What I
mostly remember?was Boraxo seemed to be everywhere,
often teamed?with a GoJo type waterless cleaner.? I
retired from electrical work 25 years ago. In my
recent experience working in my own shop
restoring?cars, building engines, machining and
welding most of the modern hand cleaners are lacking
in cleaning power.? I'm using Fast Orange hand cleaner
with pumice powder, GoJo and a stiff scrub brush in my
shop but have been considering buying a case of Boraxo
cleaner for the shop.? I do try to use disposable
gloves with mechanics gloves over them as much as I
can since my skin tends to rip easily since I'm
older.? But I do get engrossed in the work and forget
the gloves a lot and refuse to wear?gloves around
machinery or power tools.
James
When I was young
growing up in my Dad's garage/ automotive machine
shop/ auto parts,he used to get a big box of powdered
hand cleaner called Pax Lano Sav.it really worked not sure why we
quit getting it but I think they quit making it?&
we ended up with gojo.
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The vegetable oil refinery used a tan powder they spread on the floor and washed it down to get the grease off.? It turned a brillant chartreuse?yellow-green as soon as the hot water and steam mix from the wash down hose hit it. It was very effective but tended to erode the concrete floors unless they were epoxy sealed yearly. One of my apprentices got some and tried to clean his hands.? It did remove the grease along with several layers of skin and caused major?caustic burns requiring hospitalization.? He missed two weeks of work.? I alway knew he wasn't real bright but he was a hard worker as long as he had almost constant supervision. Not long after he returned to work he took a beer fueled dare involving an impossible?motocross?jump and really messed up his leg needing several surgeries to get the bones aligned right and knitting.? I had no idea why he did it since he had no motocross experience and it was his first?time on two?wheels. After being off several months with?no?ETA of his return, I had to lay him off.? I never knew what happened to him.
James
On Sat, Apr 1, 2023 at 1:58?PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? I started using Simple Green for hand cleaning . When I
get to the point that I need to clean up but not done wit the job
I just spray it on my hands? & work it like i was washing my
hands &
?? ???? then? dry off with paper towels . At the end of the
day/project then I use hand cleaner . I've save a ton of hand
cleaner in the last couple of years . I keep one spray bottle at
the lathe , one on each tool cart & one under the sink . I get
the 2 1/2 gallon jugs when their on sale , lasts a long time .
??? ??? I do remember at one of the gas stations I wrenched at in
the 70's we hag? bag of some green cleaner that we'd scoop a
handful of & wash our hands & at the end of the day we
spread some of it out on the floor & hit it with water &
scrub the floor with it . I'm not sure it really washed our hands
, I think it more then likely just removed the top layer of our
skin so it looked clean .
??? ??? ymmv
??? ??? animal
On 4/1/2023 11:33 AM, James Rice wrote:
In 30 years of working
in every type of industrial plant from vegetable oil
processing and refining to foundries to a
Michelin-Uniroyal-BFGoodrich?tire plant I got plenty dirty.?
The vegetable oil refinery smelled the worst, the tire plant
was the dirtiest especially if you worked on the rubber mix
end where the ground up natural latex was mixed with oil and
carbon black.? I worked a Christmas shutdown there once and
spent 14 hours disconnecting instruments and pumps. I walked
in shiny?clean at 6am 12/24 and walked out at 9pm.? I wondered
why the cute lady security guard looked at me so funny when
I?surrendered?my badge but went out to the truck for the hour
drive home. When I looked in the rear view mirror I was
totally coated in black oil sludge.? All you could see was the
whites of my eyes and my teeth.? It took two hours in the
shower and a quart of Pine Sol to get the crap off me and my
50 gallon HWH ran cold long before?I was finished.
I remember?that green
power hand cleaner from some plant I worked at, maybe Kraft in
Jacksonville, IL.? What I mostly remember?was Boraxo seemed to
be everywhere, often teamed?with a GoJo type waterless
cleaner.? I retired from electrical work 25 years ago. In my
recent experience working in my own shop restoring?cars,
building engines, machining and welding most of the modern
hand cleaners are lacking in cleaning power.? I'm using Fast
Orange hand cleaner with pumice powder, GoJo and a stiff scrub
brush in my shop but have been considering buying a case of
Boraxo cleaner for the shop.? I do try to use disposable
gloves with mechanics gloves over them as much as I can since
my skin tends to rip easily since I'm older.? But I do get
engrossed in the work and forget the gloves a lot and refuse
to wear?gloves around machinery or power tools.
James
When
I was young growing up in my Dad's garage/ automotive machine
shop/ auto parts,he used to get a big box of powdered hand
cleaner called Pax Lano Sav.it really worked
not sure why we quit getting it but I think they quit making
it?& we ended up with gojo.
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Re: OT Maybe? Hand cleaners
??? ??? I started using Simple Green for hand cleaning . When I
get to the point that I need to clean up but not done wit the job
I just spray it on my hands? & work it like i was washing my
hands &
?? ???? then? dry off with paper towels . At the end of the
day/project then I use hand cleaner . I've save a ton of hand
cleaner in the last couple of years . I keep one spray bottle at
the lathe , one on each tool cart & one under the sink . I get
the 2 1/2 gallon jugs when their on sale , lasts a long time .
??? ??? I do remember at one of the gas stations I wrenched at in
the 70's we hag? bag of some green cleaner that we'd scoop a
handful of & wash our hands & at the end of the day we
spread some of it out on the floor & hit it with water &
scrub the floor with it . I'm not sure it really washed our hands
, I think it more then likely just removed the top layer of our
skin so it looked clean .
??? ??? ymmv
??? ??? animal
On 4/1/2023 11:33 AM, James Rice wrote:
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Show quoted text
In 30 years of working
in every type of industrial plant from vegetable oil
processing and refining to foundries to a
Michelin-Uniroyal-BFGoodrich?tire plant I got plenty dirty.?
The vegetable oil refinery smelled the worst, the tire plant
was the dirtiest especially if you worked on the rubber mix
end where the ground up natural latex was mixed with oil and
carbon black.? I worked a Christmas shutdown there once and
spent 14 hours disconnecting instruments and pumps. I walked
in shiny?clean at 6am 12/24 and walked out at 9pm.? I wondered
why the cute lady security guard looked at me so funny when
I?surrendered?my badge but went out to the truck for the hour
drive home. When I looked in the rear view mirror I was
totally coated in black oil sludge.? All you could see was the
whites of my eyes and my teeth.? It took two hours in the
shower and a quart of Pine Sol to get the crap off me and my
50 gallon HWH ran cold long before?I was finished.
I remember?that green
power hand cleaner from some plant I worked at, maybe Kraft in
Jacksonville, IL.? What I mostly remember?was Boraxo seemed to
be everywhere, often teamed?with a GoJo type waterless
cleaner.? I retired from electrical work 25 years ago. In my
recent experience working in my own shop restoring?cars,
building engines, machining and welding most of the modern
hand cleaners are lacking in cleaning power.? I'm using Fast
Orange hand cleaner with pumice powder, GoJo and a stiff scrub
brush in my shop but have been considering buying a case of
Boraxo cleaner for the shop.? I do try to use disposable
gloves with mechanics gloves over them as much as I can since
my skin tends to rip easily since I'm older.? But I do get
engrossed in the work and forget the gloves a lot and refuse
to wear?gloves around machinery or power tools.
James
When
I was young growing up in my Dad's garage/ automotive machine
shop/ auto parts,he used to get a big box of powdered hand
cleaner called Pax Lano Sav.it really worked
not sure why we quit getting it but I think they quit making
it?& we ended up with gojo.
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Re: OT Maybe? Hand cleaners
In 30 years of working in every type of industrial plant from vegetable oil processing and refining to foundries to a Michelin-Uniroyal-BFGoodrich?tire plant I got plenty dirty.? The vegetable oil refinery smelled the worst, the tire plant was the dirtiest especially if you worked on the rubber mix end where the ground up natural latex was mixed with oil and carbon black.? I worked a Christmas shutdown there once and spent 14 hours disconnecting instruments and pumps. I walked in shiny?clean at 6am 12/24 and walked out at 9pm.? I wondered why the cute lady security guard looked at me so funny when I?surrendered?my badge but went out to the truck for the hour drive home. When I looked in the rear view mirror I was totally coated in black oil sludge.? All you could see was the whites of my eyes and my teeth.? It took two hours in the shower and a quart of Pine Sol to get the crap off me and my 50 gallon HWH ran cold long before?I was finished.
I remember?that green power hand cleaner from some plant I worked at, maybe Kraft in Jacksonville, IL.? What I mostly remember?was Boraxo seemed to be everywhere, often teamed?with a GoJo type waterless cleaner.? I retired from electrical work 25 years ago. In my recent experience working in my own shop restoring?cars, building engines, machining and welding most of the modern hand cleaners are lacking in cleaning power.? I'm using Fast Orange hand cleaner with pumice powder, GoJo and a stiff scrub brush in my shop but have been considering buying a case of Boraxo cleaner for the shop.? I do try to use disposable gloves with mechanics gloves over them as much as I can since my skin tends to rip easily since I'm older.? But I do get engrossed in the work and forget the gloves a lot and refuse to wear?gloves around machinery or power tools.
James
When I was young growing up in my Dad's garage/ automotive machine shop/ auto parts,he used to get a big box of powdered hand cleaner called Pax Lano Sav.it really worked not sure why we quit getting it but I think they quit making it?& we ended up with gojo.
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Re: OT Maybe? Hand cleaners
When I was young growing up in my Dad's garage/ automotive machine shop/ auto parts,he used to get a big box of powdered hand cleaner called Pax Lano Sav.it really worked good.im not sure why we quit getting it but I think they quit making it?& we ended up with gojo.
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Re: OT Maybe? Hand cleaners
Locally there was a powdered soap made called Mione Hand Soap.? It was always in the powder soap dispensers over the big round wash sinks found in many machine shops.? I never used it dry but it might have worked.? As I recall it contained pulverized limestone for the grit and also lanolin.? Kind of like Boraxo.? Can't find a list of ingredients.
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Re: Selling my Heavy 10x36
I better ask how much you want for it. I'm liable to get killed if I bring another one home, since my wife bought the first one for me for Christmas. But maybe I can persuade her it's spare parts.?
I got the one I have from Bill Hinkle in 2018, IIRC. Still needs a buttload of work.?
Bill in OKC <------ Actually, Del City, but only residents have ever heard about it unless they drove by the exits for it.?
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Re: Selling my Heavy 10x36
Well, you advertise where you think someone might want to buy. ?
paypal, chime, CashApp?
I will get photos ASAP. ?
we are just south of Shawnee OK if you want to come see it?
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Greg
Nick Andrews
Bill in OKC too
James Rice
W.D.Bill
