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--- bobmi357 <submitaccount@...> wrote:

--- In snorkack@..., CRS
<malko050987@y...> wrote:

--- spd3432us <spd3432@h...> wrote:

--- In snorkack@..., "totorivers"
<Tom.Beauvais@g...> wrote:

Sunset and its planned sequel will probably

be

the last Harry
Potter

fics unless I come up with a really good

plot

bunny. Its all

learning. :)

- Bob

Then we do have to hope you stumble upon a

nice

good plot bunny,
don't

we? of course, if you want ideas...

And here I was hoping for another 6th and 7th

year

set of stories with
Tracy Davis or Daphne Greengrass as the romantic
interest -- uniting
Gryffindor and Slytherin and eventually getting

the

whole school on
board.

sean

Hmmm.... you could try writing a Harry/female
Slytherin, with a draker Harry, but still on the

side

of the light. Maybe corrupt Dumbledore to the

point of

joinind V...

-Crs

Now this has me somewhat confused.

Bad Dumbledore.... check
Darker than canon Harry.... check

The only thing missing is hooking Harry up with a
Slytherin. Hell we
redeemed draco, what more could anyone ask for? I
can't tell you how
much my fingers itch to have an asteroid drop on his
head. :D

- Bob

I meant a Dark dumbledore, as in using the dark arts,
siding with Tom....

And by dark Harry, i meant that you should use his
hate, his pain and his anger, and motivate him through
that. Also, I'd expect this Harry to die at the end.

-crs

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--- In snorkack@..., "aholeio" <sturnbull@m...> wrote:

Gripping, riveting, amusing - and that was just the disclaimer.

So I ask myself, SELF... Why would Dumbledore want to keep the DE
Jrs in the school??? Potter has surely pointed them out. Snape
knows who they are. This is surprising to me, especially in light
that there have been two attempted murders. I never really
considered who planted the spider before. At this point, I don't
think it was Ron or Dumbledore, rather a student placing one of the
Gryffindors under imperius. Yet there was no on screen scene with
Dumbledore contemplating who did it.

Good question! Why did Dumbledork keep them in the school in canon?
The actions of the Inquisitional squad of book five should have been
grounds for expulsion in my book, but Rowlings kept those turkeys
around. Or you can go for the old saying of "An enemy I know is
better than one I don't know."

The Spider was definitely placed by a student. But I'm not saying
which one. :)

The second question that I'm asking myself is, as of chapter 15,

who

is on Dumbledore's side? The ministry seems to be distancing
themselves from him, as do the interesting professors.

Which side? Well if you go back to our little head to head with the
British Prime Minister you'll find out exactly which side he's on.
(Chapter 14 I believe).

The last question that I have is, using the analogy of the pretty
girl going back to the cabin in the slasher movies(where everyone
knows the killer is lurking), why would Harry and friends stay in
school? They obviously have better things to do, and could just
stage an argument or something to get expelled if they didn't want
people to really know what they were up to.

Heh... its all slight of hand. Things are going to ease up a bit for
the students in Hogwarts while they worsen elsewhere. Remember what
Harry is trying to do and you'll know why he's sticking around.

Two final comments – You two are the best. Finally thanks for
busting Filch's arse. It's about time that that creepy perv met

his

maker. Hopefully each of the students will pour a bottle of the
finest butterbeer on his grave, after they have first filtered it
through their kidneys.

You know, I don't recall another story where Filch bit the dust. He's
a character people universally hate, but don't want to kill off for
some reason.

Keep up the good writing OC. We're both still reading your fic :)

- Bob

--- In snorkack@..., CRS <malko050987@y...> wrote:

--- spd3432us <spd3432@h...> wrote:

--- In snorkack@..., "totorivers"
<Tom.Beauvais@g...> wrote:

Sunset and its planned sequel will probably be

the last Harry
Potter

fics unless I come up with a really good plot

bunny. Its all

learning. :)

- Bob

Then we do have to hope you stumble upon a nice

good plot bunny,
don't

we? of course, if you want ideas...

And here I was hoping for another 6th and 7th year
set of stories with
Tracy Davis or Daphne Greengrass as the romantic
interest -- uniting
Gryffindor and Slytherin and eventually getting the
whole school on
board.

sean

Hmmm.... you could try writing a Harry/female
Slytherin, with a draker Harry, but still on the side
of the light. Maybe corrupt Dumbledore to the point of
joinind V...

-Crs

Now this has me somewhat confused.

Bad Dumbledore.... check
Darker than canon Harry.... check

The only thing missing is hooking Harry up with a Slytherin. Hell we
redeemed draco, what more could anyone ask for? I can't tell you how
much my fingers itch to have an asteroid drop on his head. :D

- Bob

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Why are you up for being trampled by a bunch of irate Scots (and a
few Welsh and Irish, for good measure)? Because you commit Clueless
Yank Mistake no. 4621: Obsession with England, as follows:

Elizabeth II, Queen of England [...] <

Her Majesty may be the second of her reign-name ro reign over England
and Wales, but she's also Elizabeth I of Scotland. More to the point,
she was crowned as Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
Northern Ireland, not "Queen of England," a title that hasn't existed
by itself since at least 1707, and quite probably centuries earlier
if we're getting picky (remember Wales and Ireland?).

"I'm sure that's true, but if the Royal Family could

remain in England during World War II [...]

Elizabeth laughed. "No, I don't think so. I have been on

the throne for nearly fifty years, sir. When my time comes, I will
die on the throne, in England, not fleeing from the danger that now
threatens my country." [...] <

Lese majeste, you Colonial upstart! <j/k> But seriously, I can't
imagine the Queen talking about England like that. She is very
conscious that she is Queen of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern
Ireland -- not to mention those parts of the Commonwealth which
formally recognise her as Sovereign, like Australia. She would talk
about Britain, not England, and would no more ignore the Scots, Welsh
and Northern Irish than you will be able to ignore the boots of the
aforementioned stampeding horde when they read this chapter. Easiest
way I know to insult a Scotsman is to say that Scotland is part of
England; that's like saying that New York, Hawaii, Florida and Alaska
are all part of California. You have been warned... ;-)

"It will be as you say, Ma'am. But if I may suggest, when

the tour begins, perhaps you and his Royal Highness should retire to
Balmoral Castle," he said, closing his eyes in defeat. In his mind,
he was already thinking about the possibilities of rescuing them from
Balmoral. <

You do realise that Balmoral is in Scotland, don't you?

Apart from the geography errors, the chapter is a lot of fun, and
things are obviously coming to a climax. Shame Snivellus didn't get
his, but we can but hope that they'll do better next time. Also hope
for lots of Slythergit-bashing, as we can't have too much of it.

Phil, British Isles mongrel (English, Scottish, Welsh _and_ Irish
ancestors) and proud of it!

--- spd3432us <spd3432@...> wrote:

--- In snorkack@..., "totorivers"
<Tom.Beauvais@g...> wrote:

Sunset and its planned sequel will probably be

the last Harry
Potter

fics unless I come up with a really good plot

bunny. Its all

learning. :)

- Bob

Then we do have to hope you stumble upon a nice

good plot bunny,
don't

we? of course, if you want ideas...

And here I was hoping for another 6th and 7th year
set of stories with
Tracy Davis or Daphne Greengrass as the romantic
interest -- uniting
Gryffindor and Slytherin and eventually getting the
whole school on
board.

sean

Hmmm.... you could try writing a Harry/female
Slytherin, with a draker Harry, but still on the side
of the light. Maybe corrupt Dumbledore to the point of
joinind V...

-Crs



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there is another story (It's My Life?) where the spell used was a trash banishment spell that sent the trash to a Icelandic volcano. Worked well in the story for 4 DE's.
dave

--- In snorkack@..., "spd3432us" <spd3432@h...> wrote:

For the past five years, the numero uno death nibbler has been
Draco "My dad is Voldemort's right-hand man" Malfoy. Things happened
over the summer and Draco doesn't want that anymore. Given
Dumbledore's propensity towards "He's just misunderstood. Tom Riddle
is a good boy. Really he is. He'll turn back to the light. You'll
see." I figure Dumbledore is keeping the kids at Hogwarts in the
hope that if he offers them enough lemon drops they'll come back to
the light also.

sean

Hum. You do realise that in this fic, dumbledore is NOT in the light?
maybe he just wishes to have more pets, like snape is.

For the past five years, the numero uno death nibbler has been
Draco "My dad is Voldemort's right-hand man" Malfoy. Things happened
over the summer and Draco doesn't want that anymore. Given
Dumbledore's propensity towards "He's just misunderstood. Tom Riddle
is a good boy. Really he is. He'll turn back to the light. You'll
see." I figure Dumbledore is keeping the kids at Hogwarts in the
hope that if he offers them enough lemon drops they'll come back to
the light also.

sean

--- In snorkack@..., "bobmi357" <submitaccount@y...> wrote:

Sunset and its planned sequel will probably be the last Harry Potter
fics unless I come up with a really good plot bunny. Its all
learning. :)

- Bob

*looking at increasing number of bunnies in bunny hutch* I have
plenty. I'd be more than willing to share ...

Dorothy

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Excellent chapter as usual! I love your action scenes. I'm
wondering if the attempt on Snape could actually be considered just
a "warning". Given how physically tough wizards are (e.g., Neville
falling quite a distance in SS and only getting a broken wrist) it's
possible that Snape would have been expected to survive a fall like
that with some painful injuries to get the point across - then he'd
be jumping at shadows for a while until one of the shadows finally
jumped at *him*. The DEs want him to *know* what's coming - killing
him fast with the first attempt would not satisfy their sadistic
tendencies.

Poor Mrs. Norris! I hope she manages to find a new person. (Any
chance of a Crookshanks/Mrs. Norris pairing? And kittens?)

Really minor nitpick: "Her parents were laying on the floor covered
in blood." They were "lying" on the floor, not "laying." "Laying"
is the act of putting something down; once it's down, it
remains "lying" there.

I do love the way people are actually PAYING ATTENTION to Luna! In
too many fics, she just wanders around saying insightful stuff and
nobody pays attention because she's weird. Of course, she's just a
little more focused than usual here.

Does Harry know how to Vanish (as opposed to Banish) things yet? If
so, he should set up a Vanishing location of, say, the bottom of the
Marianas Trench, and Vanish things like Howlers, DE's wands and
things there. Hell, Vanish the DE's themselves! Feed 'em to a
kraken! (Vanishing is a potentially lethal spell; wonder why nobody
uses it that way?)

Keep up the good work! I'm waiting eagerly for next week's chapter!

Dorothy

--- In snorkack@..., "totorivers" <Tom.Beauvais@g...> wrote:

Sunset and its planned sequel will probably be the last Harry

Potter

fics unless I come up with a really good plot bunny. Its all
learning. :)

- Bob

Then we do have to hope you stumble upon a nice good plot bunny,

don't

we? of course, if you want ideas...

And here I was hoping for another 6th and 7th year set of stories with
Tracy Davis or Daphne Greengrass as the romantic interest -- uniting
Gryffindor and Slytherin and eventually getting the whole school on
board.

sean

Gripping, riveting, amusing - and that was just the disclaimer.

So I ask myself, SELF... Why would Dumbledore want to keep the DE
Jrs in the school??? Potter has surely pointed them out. Snape
knows who they are. This is surprising to me, especially in light
that there have been two attempted murders. I never really
considered who planted the spider before. At this point, I don't
think it was Ron or Dumbledore, rather a student placing one of the
Gryffindors under imperius. Yet there was no on screen scene with
Dumbledore contemplating who did it.

The second question that I'm asking myself is, as of chapter 15, who
is on Dumbledore's side? The ministry seems to be distancing
themselves from him, as do the interesting professors.

The last question that I have is, using the analogy of the pretty
girl going back to the cabin in the slasher movies(where everyone
knows the killer is lurking), why would Harry and friends stay in
school? They obviously have better things to do, and could just
stage an argument or something to get expelled if they didn't want
people to really know what they were up to.

Two final comments – You two are the best. Finally thanks for
busting Filch's arse. It's about time that that creepy perv met his
maker. Hopefully each of the students will pour a bottle of the
finest butterbeer on his grave, after they have first filtered it
through their kidneys.

Now, back to my own story. I have work for you two.

Old-Crow

Sunset and its planned sequel will probably be the last Harry Potter
fics unless I come up with a really good plot bunny. Its all
learning. :)

- Bob

Then we do have to hope you stumble upon a nice good plot bunny, don't
we? of course, if you want ideas...

Great chapter! Well, gory, and dark-ish. Will we find
out more about the killed DE's?

I think that the issue of the snapped wands needs to
be adressed. I don't think it is legal (duh!), and DD
would try to do something about it. Oh course, he
knows that Harry did it, but there is no proof...

"I will let you kill Voldemort..." Okay, DD gets the
creeps. I think that this is the majpr step on the pat
leading to the destruction pf Britain.

And I think that "Weasley" at the end was Percy. Care
to vote, peeps?

When Britain is conquered by V, what will the
international reactions be? Will they try to get
involved? What about the area Harry goes too? What
will the peple there think of him, if they know he's
there, that is.

Well, that's it from me now... this chapter could use
some more work, but it's above the regular ff
standard, so...

-Crs

--- magyareagle <magyareagle@...> wrote:

Bravo on a wonderful chapter, and the beautiful
progress of Harry and
Hermione's relationship. Arthur under an imperious?
Now that is what I
call suspense.

Thank you for providing me with so much wonderful
literature.

Balint D. Szoke

--- In snorkack@..., Steven Thomas
<dragon03716@y...> wrote:

Great News on that Alyx

I for one am very pleased with all the effort you

and Bob place in
to you're writing.

***Clap Clap Clap***

I for one just wanted to thank you two for the

wonderful writing.

Steven

Alyx <alyxnw@y...> wrote:
Just a quick note: Chapter 15 has been edited and

is going through the

final read-through now. It should be up soon.

Oh, and we were only

slightly less evil with this chapter than we were

with the last. :D

We hope everyone enjoys it.

~Alyx~




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Bravo on a wonderful chapter, and the beautiful progress of Harry and
Hermione's relationship. Arthur under an imperious? Now that is what I
call suspense.

Thank you for providing me with so much wonderful literature.

Balint D. Szoke

--- In snorkack@..., Steven Thomas <dragon03716@y...> wrote:

Great News on that Alyx

I for one am very pleased with all the effort you and Bob place in

to you're writing.

***Clap Clap Clap***

I for one just wanted to thank you two for the wonderful writing.

Steven

Alyx <alyxnw@y...> wrote:
Just a quick note: Chapter 15 has been edited and is going through the
final read-through now. It should be up soon. Oh, and we were only
slightly less evil with this chapter than we were with the last. :D

We hope everyone enjoys it.

~Alyx~




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Lots
Of
Spoilers
For
Chapter
Fifteen
Which
Is
Pretty
Damm
Cool.

A very nice chapter indeed.

This is one of those solid chapters that show the quality of writing
that Bob and Alyx produce. We have some action, some drama, plot
exposition, new and funky tricks (I'd love to know what it was that
Harry did to the DE and how it works) and solid relationship progresion.

To top it all off, we now have Percy the walking betrayer, why do I
see hm as the sort who will be used to kill someone important like
amelia Bones? After all, as a junior toady, he can get in to see her
with no problem:)

I like how Harry handled Nott. It was restrained, something he has had
to learn. After all, he could accidently vaporise them or worse. Was
it a spell he used? Or sheer force of will exerted over magic?

Once again, you've shown how insightful Luna is. I do like where you
have taken the character.

Cheers

Finbar

Just a quick note: Chapter 15 has been edited and is going through the
final read-through now.? It should be up soon.? Oh, and we were only
slightly less evil with this chapter than we were with the last. :D

We hope everyone enjoys it.?

~Alyx~

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Just a quick note: Chapter 15 has been edited and is going through the
final read-through now. It should be up soon. Oh, and we were only
slightly less evil with this chapter than we were with the last. :D

We hope everyone enjoys it.

~Alyx~

One other thing comes to mind. It took more than Dumbledore's spell to
get through to Ginny. It took her learning to be a legilmens. DD's
action was more to break through to Harry in his fugue state.

- Bob