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Insurance and other stuff 4
Reflecting on age, health and changing priorities, we were debating putting Solace on the market. She spent last year on the hard while we rebuilt our cottage, sold the house and adjusted to retirement after a half century of intensely high pressure careers (labor and employment attorney and nursing director.) It¡¯s not fair to sideline a beautiful thoroughbred that¡¯s been part of our family for 22 years. The demand for a survey by BOAT US/Geico as a condition of renewal last week was the tipping point. I spoke to GEICO and explained that the boat was in secure land storage and asked for alternatives or a 12 month waiver of the survey. They were polite but inflexible, then offered to continue the current policy through the current term without the survey. I thanked them for the kind offer of the sleeves from their vest. The rep was still confused when I thanked her for her time and ended the conversation. Once I get Solace cleaned up and inventoried, more will follow. Pete Solace, 1988 30 Mk III
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34-2 Targa Propane Conversion 10
Good morning, all. I've done a forum search for a propane conversion on a 34-2 Targa, but haven't found a thread I thought I'd seen before. Can anyone confirm that 6 pound tanks will fit in the lockers in a 34-2 Targa? I've found some comments on the net suggesting that they will, but no photos. -- 1990 Sabre 34-2 Aft Cabin "Ingalina" Bath, ME
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Very Wet Bilge (another leak) 7
Sorry, I don't mean to hijack this forum, but I found yet another leak (picture attached). Does anyone know what this bolt is on the upper left-hand corner is about? It has a black wire attached that goes to (or comes from) the engine area somewhere. The bolt leaks and leaves a path of water that goes into the bilge. This morning there was significantly less new water accumulated in the bilge so there has been a significant improvement since yesterday. Augustin SV Rhapsody S425 (1990)
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Rebedding old (aluminum frame) fixed ports 9
I have removed a leaky fixed port on my 38-1 for re-bedding. It¡¯s the original style with the aluminum frame on the outside as discussed below. I have also read the ¡°Instructions to Rebed Sabre 28 Main Cabin Windows¡±. I would like to do the job following the factory guidelines but am unsure of a few procedures. 1. There is no mention of glazing vinyl or gaskets, but my window clearly has at least two. One poster said he bought 3/16 glazing vinyl #D752. Another mentions acquiring window molding from Catalina Direct. I¡¯m pretty sure I recall Phil Horn stating he researched, purchased and installed the original material and even attached a photo of it during his glass replacement. However, I am unable to find that post. I am hoping those who have experience with this project can shed some light (no pun intended) on the correct products and where to acquire them. And, Phil, if you are following, please respond. 2. The bead of caulking on the outside of the window and the aluminum frame is described as a silicone bead on the factory instructions for the 28. The bead on my windows is rather wide and ugly. It¡¯s silver/gray after all these years, and I¡¯m unsure if it¡¯s original. I¡¯d like to use a smaller width bead of black silicone against the glass and the frame for a much neater look and a bead of white around the frame and the surrounding cabin top wall. I¡¯m thinking a 1/8¡± bead, maybe even a 1/16¡± bead which is about the thickness of the frame, but I¡¯m not sure if the thinner bead would compromise the seal. I¡¯m open to suggestions. 3. One poster recommends Permatex Windshield Sealer and details the procedure he followed very carefully. I¡¯m wondering how the Permatext has been holding up in the harsh marine environment. 4. I¡¯m also considering painting or powder coating the frame and eventually all the frames. I¡¯ve used Interlux Perfection Hatteras Off White on my overhead hatches and the color matches the gelcoat nicely. Again, any advice or alternatives would be appreciated. Don Fleming Duet S-38-1 #77 Hudson River toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
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Very Wet Bilge 25
Hello Everyone, I have a 1990 425 that I bought about a year ago. I'm not new to sailing, but am new to boat ownership. I noticed that the bilge keeps getting wet so I wiped it dry and disconnected the bilge pump for several days. I vacuumed out the water this morning with a ShopVac to accurately measure the amount of water. I'm getting about 4 gallons per day. That's a heck of a lot. All that I have been able to see this far is that there is a small leak from around the Jabsco electric toilet, and a small puddle underneath the stuffing box. Neither of these seem to be very threatening at all, but there is also a trail of wetness coming from a hole that goes from the stuffing box area towards the aft vis-a-vis underneath the companion way step, into the Racor filter compartment which then leads to a larger hole that leads to ??. These are just trails of wet with very small amounts of actual water. It's hard for me to fathom that these trails would produce 4 gallons of water per day in the bilge. I am in Montego Bay, Jamaica, where there is no hope of reliable services nor a marine parts outlet. I feel stuck and need to get out of here. I'm hesitant to sail to a US port until I believe the boat is ready to safely sail for several days at a time. Thank you for reading this far and for any help and thoughts you can offer. Best regards, Augustin VE7OXS SV Rhapsody S425
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Cleaning out the closet 6
Hi Folks, I am finally trying to do something about all the stuff. First up is offering this group first dibs. They are all offered at your best offer plus shipping. I am happy to give as many details as I can about any item you are interested in. They are: Sea frost freezer unit Worked great when it left the boat. I just reworked my frig and put in a bigger freezer. It is 10¡±W x 11¡±D x 7¡±H . Folding Teak Cockpit Table, never used. I can¡¯t remember why I have this one. RayMarine 24¡± 48 mile Digital Radar Dome. No Cable. Worked great when it left the boat. I downsized to a smaller Doppler radar. I took of the Raymarine decal when it was new. I couldn¡¯t work out an endorsement deal with them but it makes for a clean white dome. Folding swim ladder. Ment for sugar scoop folding up to transom. Jack Rabbet Marine 125 Amp Alternator. Working fine when pulled off of the boat. I repowered and went with Alt.that would fit new engine. Again best offer plus shipping. Help a guy out¡­. Randy Drummond S/V Dazzle S38mk2 206 Miami -- Randy Drummond Dazzle S38 mk2 206 Miami
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S-38-2 Sails 2
I have a main and 135% genoa from a Sabre 38-2 that I want to get out of my garage, Both in good cruising condition. Genoa has a relatively new UV protection strip for a roller furler.. No patches or holes in either. I upgraded for racing. These sails were on my boat when I bought them. Make Offer plus shipping. Randy Goodman S-38-2 Red Frog Virginia Beach, VA
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Solar Panels on Bimini with Split Backstay 45
My main winter project is upgrading the electrical charging system: Part 1 of new alternator / regulator / monitoring is underway. Part 2 is adding solar; am on a mooring so shore power charging is limited, and for cruising. Has anyone with a split backstay been able to add solar panels to their bimini? My bimini has a forward, mid and aft support frame, and several sources advise against having a panel lay fore / aft across a frame member as it creates a flex point which will break down the panel. I possibly could fit several 50W panels [presumably wired at least in part in series] but that seems inefficient and higher cost. Anyone come up with a solution for bimini solar? The dodger is a secondary possibility, but there is more shading, especially when sailing. And the wiring access would be more complicated. In the archives Jordan mentions having to redesign the bimini frame to get this to work, but that is not something I want to do. TIA Brian Escapade S426 CT / LIS Has anyone with a split backstay
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Seacock Grease 7
Before I purchase a tube of seacock grease I thought I would check with the forum on the possibility of using a tube of NLGI Grade 2 Lithium grease that I have hanging around. This is a medium density non-hydrocarbon grease. I also have a tube of Lewmar Geargrease made with Calcium Sulphonate. Thoughts? Thanks, Dave G Serenade 1983 S-34-1 #184 NB, Canada
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Deck/caprail Fillet 9 #362Sabre #Sabre362
I am stripping and varnishing all the brightwork on my 362 and am considering removing the factory installed plastic fillet where the caprail meets the deck. It's a mess after years of use and several prior efforts to varnish without good clean-up. I imagine that it's opening up a can of worms so I thought I'd ask you folks what you've discovered if you've done this work yourselves? Was it bonded with 5200? Remove with a heatgun or chemical stripper? Thanks, Tom Malone Sabre 362 #173 Port Townsend, WA
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Cove stripe "S" 20
We have a 1981 34 hull #113 and are going to redo our cove stripe. The "S" had been missing so I have nothing to duplicate. I was wondering if anyone knows of a template I could use? What are the dimensions of the "S"? Judy Ambrosius
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Elliptic Folding Prop
Hi All, I just removed a Martec 16¡±diameter, 12¡± pitch folding prop. It¡¯s in great shape, just replace the 4 cotter pins (original included) and you are good. Coming off a Sabre 36, 1¡± shaft, RH thread. $200 shipped to you (Conus). -- Michael Henning 1985 S36 Caper Allen Harbor, RI
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Refrigerator insulation 8
On my 362 there¡¯s a space between the hull and the refrigerator that would benefit from better insulation. I was thinking of making a hole (or two) in the bottom of the food storage bin, located above this space, and squirting insulation foam inside this space. I was wondering if anyone has done this, what their results were, what type of foam they used, and how much? Thank you, Jay ¡°Elizabeth Belle¡± #212 -- Jay Flynn ¡°Elizabeth Belle¡± Sabre 362 1999 #212
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Sabre 38 Mk2 rod rigging open style turnbuckles 10
Hi All, I just had my insurance survey. Glad to say all went well, except that the surveyor identified what looks like hairline cracks on the inside of one of the ¡°open style¡± cap shroud turnbuckles and a similar line on the inside of one of the lower shroud turnbuckles. My rigger says it is unlikely to be a crack on that style of turnbuckle body, but he hasn¡¯t seen it yet. Since I¡¯m going to take the boat to sea, I am willing to change them all out an I am looking at Hayn 3/8¡±-24 x 5-1/2 and 1/2¡±- 20 x 6-1/2¡± bodies, but don¡¯t know if these have the correct threads for the rod rigging ends on a Sabre 38 Mk2. Does anyone know exactly what the normal thread pitch is? -- Pete Waterson ¡°Chardonnay¡± S38-2 Oriental, NC
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Epoch 12V 460Ah LFP battery on Sabre 362? 10
Hi all, I've been holding off on LFP battery conversion but the tariff thing is alarming so I'm considering the substantial purchase of an Epoch 12V 460Ah V2 Elite Series battery for our 362. Does anyone know if this particular Group D size battery fits under the starboard berth? This battery is quite a bit taller than the Group 31s I have in there now (and I'm away from the boat and can't measure). I realize there's more to LFP conversion than swapping the battery. Thanks, Bill Graves 2003 S362 #261 'Souwester' Marblehead, MA
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Enlarging the mastgate 8
Good Evening I'd like to install a tides marine mast track on my 34-2. The current mastgate is too short and too low for their product to slide into the luff grove. I would need to enlarge the mastgate by 6.5". Has anyone done this, enlarged their mastgate? Some suggest using a grinder. Is this crazy or not a big deal? Greg Duet 34-2 338
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Datamarine Anemometer- wind speed cups aren't moving 9
So, I save up, buy a new Raymarine Axiom+9RV and Quantum 2 Doppler radar combo, they will be wired in next week sometime...only to take the boat out Wednesday and notice my wind direction indicator works but the speed cups are not moving. No wind speed data. What are my options? I can't seem to find just a replacement for the wind direction indicator and the anemometer at the top of the mast. (I don't want to buy used. Don't really know what I would be getting.) Anyone know if this - guessing - 10 plus year Datamarine display at the helm would connect to newer Raymarine atop the mast? I am guessing, just guessing, the current signal is 0183? I know they make a 0183 to NEMA 2000, do they make a NEMA 2000 to 0183 going the other direction? - AND OR - does my current Datamarine display connect to the current SeaTalk or RayNet? If so, can I buy just a new arm with wind direction and speed cups? The local electronics tech is about to move the birds nest of connections of my SeaTalk from under the starboard v-birth to the storage locker up near the companion way. So now would be the time to fix this, adding a little scope creep to my install project. So, is it time to bite an even bigger bullet and replace the whole thing for a project cost of almost $2K.Please someone give me a good answer to save some dollars here! My running riggers suggested I go wireless and use the new Axiom+9RV as the display. But, that seems to be a crowded display in that scenario? Bottom pic, Nav screen, adding wind speed and direction too? I just want and wish wish I could just use my existing Datamarine display at the helm and only replace what is needed topside the mast. **ALSO - side note - I just bought a new Airmar P79 Transducer (internal) to give me bottom views and depth for the Axiom+9RV. Anyone have any experience with how well that will or won't work? Any and all suggestions would be appreciated ! Verne Sabre 32 "About Time" MYC - Mobile Al
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362 Yanmar-Kanzaki transmission removal 8
Our Hurth-Kanzaki KBW-10 transmission has developed a massive oil leak from the output shaft. We're now on the hard, and I'm looking to pull the transmission to service over winter. Has anyone done this? The bottom two bolts are quite inaccessible and it's looking like I'll need to jack up the rear of the Yanmar, complicating an otherwise straightforward job. We're also replacing the PSS. What is best practice to pull the flange from the prop shaft? I've disconnected and pulled it back, but the flange on is pretty solid. If I use a puller to get it off, how best to get it reinstalled? Thanks in advance. /Ed -- SV Enigma, Sabre 362 #199 Lake Erie @ Sandusky, OH
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Headliner for S452 10
I am in the process of repairing the headliner in the main cabin of my 2001 Sabre 452. Much of the vinyl material has separated and there are many sags and bubbles. With a lot of previous help and feedback from previous posts on this forum I have gained enough information (and confidence) to start the project. All ceiling trim has now been removed, and I am taking down the 4-5 plywood pieces in the ceiling where the headliner is attached. I have purchased 3M adhesive #76 and #90. Glen Chaplin states Sabre uses (used?) 3M #90 for the headliner work in the factory. My question is: I am asking this forum if you know where I can purchase the headliner material: NAUGAHYDE VINYL, BRIGHT WHITE SF-79 (thanks to Glen Chaplin at Sabre for the info). The NAUGAHYDE is glued to an 1/8 layer of white dense foam which again is glued to the plywood. I have purchased the foam, but all the NAUGAHYDE vendors I have checked to date only sell wholesale. Also, as a backup, I am contemplating contacting an upholstery shop in the area (NY metro/NJ) to get some help with this project. Any advice greatly appreciated. Jorgen Naess 2001 Sabre 452, VENTO Winter: Mamaroneck, NY Summer: Greenport, NY
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Cost of insurance survey? 15
Wondering what folks are paying for an insurance survey these days? I was just quoted $32 per foot which seemed a bit steep from my last one but that was 10 years ago.
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