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Re: Couple of items

 

#1 May be the little same dust pan that¡¯s at the base of the companionway steps on the 362. Sweep into it.

On May 12, 2025, at 8:10?PM, David Gerhardt via groups.io <davidgerhardt56@...> wrote:

?1. My 34-1 has a small metal tray under the floor board just aft of the mast step. It fits perfect in the opening and I am pretty sure it came with the boat originally. Anyone know its function?
2. I reconditioned all of the seacocks except the cockpit scupper seacocks. The last time I descended into the stern lazarette I had a hard time getting out, lol. My oldest son is a little bit smaller than me and a whole lot stronger, and he has volunteered to recondition them. I reached hard into the stern lazarette and didn¡¯t make contact with the lever. In the case that these seacocks must be closed I was thinking of adding a pipe extension to the handle, allowing me to reach them. Anyone tried this or have other suggestions?

Thanks, Dave G
Serenade 1983 S34-1 #184
NB, Canada



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Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME


Couple of items

 

1. My 34-1 has a small metal tray under the floor board just aft of the mast step. It fits perfect in the opening and I am pretty sure it came with the boat originally. Anyone know its function?
2. I reconditioned all of the seacocks except the cockpit scupper seacocks. The last time I descended into the stern lazarette I had a hard time getting out, lol. My oldest son is a little bit smaller than me and a whole lot stronger, and he has volunteered to recondition them. I reached hard into the stern lazarette and didn¡¯t make contact with the lever. In the case that these seacocks must be closed I was thinking of adding a pipe extension to the handle, allowing me to reach them. Anyone tried this or have other suggestions?

Thanks, Dave G
Serenade 1983 S34-1 #184
NB, Canada


Re: Handrails leaking?

 

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Re: Handrails leaking?
From:?Michael Oravetz
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 20:38:14 EDT?

May I ask where the leaks are/were coming through?

That¡¯s the problem, I couldn¡¯t pinpoint where the leak(s) were coming from, so I have been redoing things one at a time. The handrails seemed like the most probable cause. If it is still leaking, the only other penetrations are the line organizer (where the sheets run through from the mast to the cockpit) and the heavy ring base around the mast.?
Sent from my ShoePhone

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Michael Henning?
1985 S36 Caper
Allen Harbor, RI


Re: Handrails leaking?

 

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No third. PO to me was very good on maintenance that¡¯s why I bought the boat. He was not particularly DIY had one of Maine¡¯s better yards doing the work.?
My business was construction related (woodworking) and things were pretty crazy in the late 90¡¯s.?


On May 12, 2025, at 10:45?AM, Allison Lehman via groups.io <allisonleh@...> wrote:

?David, during that period Sabre had a one year waitlist. ?It sometimes went out beyond a year. They were not rushing boats, they were making the market wait for them. Remember our boats are getting older and things begin to move over time. ?Also we never know what the PO removed. ?Are you the original owner?



Allison Lehman
Swiftsure Yachts
allison@...
Cell: 510.912.5800
Fax: 510.860.4640
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On May 12, 2025, at 3:00?AM, David Short, SV One Timer, 1997 362, Mt Desert, ME via groups.io <dhs.short@...> wrote:

Must have been the screw penetrations of the deck not sealed/bedded well enough.?
Mine is a ¡®97. Those were the gogo dot com ?years. Probably a lot of pressure to get boats out the door.?


On May 11, 2025, at 8:38?PM, Michael Oravetz via groups.io <msoravetz@...> wrote:

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May I ask where the leaks are/were coming through?
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Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME


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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest

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Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME


Re: Lift Pump replacement

 

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Thank you Tim. I appreciate your time and effort.

When you sail to Kenosha, let me buy you a cool beverage.

Bob Marthaler?
Shimako S30 mkII
Kenosha, WI

On May 12, 2025, at 06:40, Tim Dokken via groups.io <timdokken@...> wrote:

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Bob - This should help you find your model number:
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Tim Dokken
1985 Sabre 32 #59
Bayfield, WI
<K2-KE70-KE75-Mitsubishi.pdf>


Re: Handrails leaking?

 

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David, during that period Sabre had a one year waitlist. ?It sometimes went out beyond a year. They were not rushing boats, they were making the market wait for them. Remember our boats are getting older and things begin to move over time. ?Also we never know what the PO removed. ?Are you the original owner?



Allison Lehman
Swiftsure Yachts
allison@...
Cell: 510.912.5800
Fax: 510.860.4640
PastedGraphic-1.tiff

On May 12, 2025, at 3:00?AM, David Short, SV One Timer, 1997 362, Mt Desert, ME via groups.io <dhs.short@...> wrote:

Must have been the screw penetrations of the deck not sealed/bedded well enough.?
Mine is a ¡®97. Those were the gogo dot com ?years. Probably a lot of pressure to get boats out the door.?


On May 11, 2025, at 8:38?PM, Michael Oravetz via groups.io <msoravetz@...> wrote:

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May I ask where the leaks are/were coming through?
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Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME


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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest


Re: Handrails leaking?

 

The sheet organizer is subject to a lot more stress
My wet core was over a pretty big area. Of course, given time, were the penetration only from the organizer the moisture could travel.

On May 12, 2025, at 7:24?AM, Michael Henning via groups.io <n654ml@...> wrote:

?I am/was getting some water dripping over the stbd settee when it rains. I had rebedded the fixed portlights and the opening portlights were redone a few years ago, so I figured it may be the hand rails. NeXT time it rains, I will see. The other possibility up there are the three sheeve sheet organizers (it¡¯s got three pulleys in one mechanism to route the lines coming from the boom/mast). That is on line with where the water is presenting itself.
Sent from my ShoePhone

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Michael Henning
1985 S36 Caper
Allen Harbor, RI




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Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME


Re: Lift Pump replacement

 

Bob - This should help you find your model number:
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Tim Dokken
1985 Sabre 32 #59
Bayfield, WI


Re: Handrails leaking?

 

I am/was getting some water dripping over the stbd settee when it rains. I had rebedded the fixed portlights and the opening portlights were redone a few years ago, so I figured it may be the hand rails. NeXT time it rains, I will see. The other possibility up there are the three sheeve sheet organizers (it¡¯s got three pulleys in one mechanism to route the lines coming from the boom/mast). That is on line with where the water is presenting itself.
Sent from my ShoePhone

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Michael Henning
1985 S36 Caper
Allen Harbor, RI


Re: Handrails leaking?

 

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Must have been the screw penetrations of the deck not sealed/bedded well enough.?
Mine is a ¡®97. Those were the gogo dot com ?years. Probably a lot of pressure to get boats out the door.?


On May 11, 2025, at 8:38?PM, Michael Oravetz via groups.io <msoravetz@...> wrote:

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May I ask where the leaks are/were coming through?
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Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME


Re: Handrails leaking?

 

May I ask where the leaks are/were coming through?
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Re: Lift Pump replacement

 

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Thanks everyone. This chart is a big help.

I am still curious what model Mitsubishi engine is the Westerbeke 13.

Bob Marthaler?
Shimako S30 mkII
Kenosha, WI

On May 11, 2025, at 12:56, Peter Tollini via groups.io <sabre30@...> wrote:

?That¡¯s a handy chart. I see on the Facet site that the pumps have been upgraded to electronic activation rather than the mechanical breaker points, so they should outlive all of us.
Also, the Facet p/n is stamped on the mounting foot.
Pete

On May 11, 2025, at 9:13?AM, Tim Dokken via groups.io <timdokken@...> wrote:

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Bob -
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As mentioned the original pump was made by Facet. ?There is a replacement guide from Facet to make sure you choose the right pump. ?As long as you have the Westerbeke part number and you should be good.
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Tim Dokken
1985 Sabre 32 #59
Bayfield, WI
<2025-Catalog-compressed.pdf>


Re: Handrails leaking?

 

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Yes they do leak. Prepurhase survey on my ¡®97 362 found wet core all around port handrails so PO paid for replacing core (from the inside) and rebedding both sides . Fastened with self tapping screws into deck alone. Kinda quick and dirty. ?But it has worked (mechanically) for 28 years. Sabre could have done a better sealing job.?



On May 11, 2025, at 2:41?PM, Michael Henning via groups.io <n654ml@...> wrote:

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Hi all,
can the handrails cause leaking? I re-bedded both rails with Butyl Tape, and was expecting through bolts to secure them. Instead, they were screwed on. ?Do the screws go all the way through? The fiberglass roof liner blocks the view.?

thanks,
Mike
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Michael Henning?
1985 S36 Caper
Allen Harbor, RI

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Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME


Handrails leaking?

 

Hi all,
can the handrails cause leaking? I re-bedded both rails with Butyl Tape, and was expecting through bolts to secure them. Instead, they were screwed on. ?Do the screws go all the way through? The fiberglass roof liner blocks the view.?

thanks,
Mike
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Michael Henning?
1985 S36 Caper
Allen Harbor, RI


Re: Lift Pump replacement

 

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That¡¯s a handy chart. I see on the Facet site that the pumps have been upgraded to electronic activation rather than the mechanical breaker points, so they should outlive all of us.
Also, the Facet p/n is stamped on the mounting foot.
Pete

On May 11, 2025, at 9:13?AM, Tim Dokken via groups.io <timdokken@...> wrote:

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Bob -
?
As mentioned the original pump was made by Facet. ?There is a replacement guide from Facet to make sure you choose the right pump. ?As long as you have the Westerbeke part number and you should be good.
?
<Screenshot 2025-05-11 at 8.05.07?AM.png>
?
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Tim Dokken
1985 Sabre 32 #59
Bayfield, WI
<2025-Catalog-compressed.pdf>


Re: Raymarine GA-200 not appearing as data source

 

Hi Carter,
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Might be a dumb question, but do you have the VHF turned on?


Re: Lift Pump replacement

 

Bob -
?
As mentioned the original pump was made by Facet. ?There is a replacement guide from Facet to make sure you choose the right pump. ?As long as you have the Westerbeke part number and you should be good.
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Tim Dokken
1985 Sabre 32 #59
Bayfield, WI


Re: Raymarine GA-200 not appearing as data source

 

I agree that it is weird that position cannot be output from the AIS700, either on N2K or NMEA0183. There may be a technical reason, but more probably it was made by the marketing team!
Raymarine do not make the AIS 700 completely in house. The AIS boards are made by SRT (whose marketing brand is em-trac) The equivalent unit from em-trac is the B953, which does actually allow output of GPS data on both N2K and NMEA0 0183 and it is one of these that I have on board Chardonnay - which has a relatively recent ICOM M506 VHF, but unfortunately the version without N2K.
I do have to say that part of the problem is with VHF Radio manufacturers, who have been pounding us with the (very real) importance of DSC and the attendant requirement for position to be available at the radio for distress purposes as well as its added benefits for private call and reply etc for years, but yet have been incredibly slow to incorporate N2K into their products as the standard for position input.
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As I have been typing this, I did have the thought that perhaps the method Raymarine have for ignoring own ship AIS transmissions in its received data could be the sticking point. Raymarine displays use the proximity of the AIS receiver to the vessel's main GPS receiver to determine whether to ignore a broadcast deemed to be from its own ship, but I guess that would all depend upon who wrote the software. If for instance the AIS700 were to use the main GPS position to figure out own ship and then rebroadcast it on the N2K network or over NMEA 0183, this may cause data loops.
Lastly, I would like to say that knowing Joel at Raymarine personally, he is undoubtedly my go to man there, very knowledgeable and is a straight shooter, who will always go the extra mile to get answers.
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Pete Waterson
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S38-2
Oriental, NC


Re: Naviionics & B&G Zeus MFD

 

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The only thing which comes to mind is to check the settings to select the new map card slot. I recall you can see both slots in the menu. My mfd is a zeus2.
Len Bertaux
Walkabout S38mkii
Prides Crossing MA

On May 11, 2025, at 7:56?AM, JLubimir via groups.io <jlubimir@...> wrote:

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I just inserted a new Navionics micro Sim card into my Zeus touch screen MFD and all I am seeing are the shoreline course detail-? no normal navionics data.? All other Navionics cards work fine.? Is there some new activation step I am missing?
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Thank you.
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John Lubimir
s/v Passage
S452


Naviionics & B&G Zeus MFD

 

I just inserted a new Navionics micro Sim card into my Zeus touch screen MFD and all I am seeing are the shoreline course detail-? no normal navionics data.? All other Navionics cards work fine.? Is there some new activation step I am missing?
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Thank you.
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John Lubimir
s/v Passage
S452