Re: How many are still around?
Well, lo and behold - we were not on it. I added Deep Blew (formerly Re:Pete, formerly Shady Lady) to the list. Seems we are second oldest S-28 at hull #13, with only #11 on the list being older. And she is nearby Rock Hall, as well.? ?
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Re: How many are still around?
This is an old thread and reply somewhat out of context. ?
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Thanks to all offering advice! -- Stephanie
Moderator
Sabre 36, #67
Formerly Sabre 28-2, #289
Wilson Harbor, NY Lake Ontario
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Re: How many are still around?
I have wondered the same thing. We have a 1989 42 C/B on Cape Cod.
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I've got the same tray that you were talking about.? Not sure what the original purpose was for it, but it holds a sponge for quick cleanups or drying out the bilge.
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As far as getting in the back lazarette, at 6'1" and 235 lb. It's tight.? I only go in when absolutely necessary.? What I do to reach the handles normally is go upside down with my legs and ass hanging out of the lazarette.? It serves two functions, I can reach the handles and if someone walks by they can have a good laugh.
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Steve Myers
Wind Dancer
1984 Sabre 34-1, #232
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#1 May be the little same dust pan that’s at the base of the companionway steps on the 362. Sweep into it.
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On May 12, 2025, at 8:10?PM, David Gerhardt via groups.io <davidgerhardt56@...> wrote:
?1. My 34-1 has a small metal tray under the floor board just aft of the mast step. It fits perfect in the opening and I am pretty sure it came with the boat originally. Anyone know its function?
2. I reconditioned all of the seacocks except the cockpit scupper seacocks. The last time I descended into the stern lazarette I had a hard time getting out, lol. My oldest son is a little bit smaller than me and a whole lot stronger, and he has volunteered to recondition them. I reached hard into the stern lazarette and didn’t make contact with the lever. In the case that these seacocks must be closed I was thinking of adding a pipe extension to the handle, allowing me to reach them. Anyone tried this or have other suggestions?
Thanks, Dave G
Serenade 1983 S34-1 #184
NB, Canada
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Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME
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1. My 34-1 has a small metal tray under the floor board just aft of the mast step. It fits perfect in the opening and I am pretty sure it came with the boat originally. Anyone know its function?
2. I reconditioned all of the seacocks except the cockpit scupper seacocks. The last time I descended into the stern lazarette I had a hard time getting out, lol. My oldest son is a little bit smaller than me and a whole lot stronger, and he has volunteered to recondition them. I reached hard into the stern lazarette and didn’t make contact with the lever. In the case that these seacocks must be closed I was thinking of adding a pipe extension to the handle, allowing me to reach them. Anyone tried this or have other suggestions?
Thanks, Dave G
Serenade 1983 S34-1 #184
NB, Canada
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From:?Michael Oravetz
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 20:38:14 EDT?
May I ask where the leaks are/were coming through?
That’s the problem, I couldn’t pinpoint where the leak(s) were coming from, so I have been redoing things one at a time. The handrails seemed like the most probable cause. If it is still leaking, the only other penetrations are the line organizer (where the sheets run through from the mast to the cockpit) and the heavy ring base around the mast.? |
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Sent from my ShoePhone -- Michael Henning? 1985 S36 Caper Allen Harbor, RI
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No third. PO to me was very good on maintenance that’s why I bought the boat. He was not particularly DIY had one of Maine’s better yards doing the work.? My business was construction related (woodworking) and things were pretty crazy in the late 90’s.?
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On May 12, 2025, at 10:45?AM, Allison Lehman via groups.io <allisonleh@...> wrote:
? David, during that period Sabre had a one year waitlist. ?It sometimes went out beyond a year. They were not rushing boats, they were making the market wait for them. Remember our boats are getting older and things begin to move over time. ?Also we never know what the PO removed. ?Are you the original owner?
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On May 12, 2025, at 3:00?AM, David Short, SV One Timer, 1997 362, Mt Desert, ME via groups.io <dhs.short@...> wrote:
Must have been the screw penetrations of the deck not sealed/bedded well enough.? Mine is a ‘97. Those were the gogo dot com ?years. Probably a lot of pressure to get boats out the door.? On May 11, 2025, at 8:38?PM, Michael Oravetz via groups.io <msoravetz@...> wrote:
? May I ask where the leaks are/were coming through?
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-- Dave Short SV One Timer 1997 S362 Mt Desert, ME
-- Allison S426 Kingfisher SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME
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Re: Lift Pump replacement
Thank you Tim. I appreciate your time and effort.
When you sail to Kenosha, let me buy you a cool beverage.
Bob Marthaler? Shimako S30 mkII
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On May 12, 2025, at 06:40, Tim Dokken via groups.io <timdokken@...> wrote:
? Bob - This should help you find your model number:
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Tim Dokken
1985 Sabre 32 #59
Bayfield, WI
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David, during that period Sabre had a one year waitlist. ?It sometimes went out beyond a year. They were not rushing boats, they were making the market wait for them. Remember our boats are getting older and things begin to move over time. ?Also we never know what the PO removed. ?Are you the original owner?
Allison LehmanSwiftsure Yachtsallison@...Cell: 510.912.5800Fax: 510.860.4640
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On May 12, 2025, at 3:00?AM, David Short, SV One Timer, 1997 362, Mt Desert, ME via groups.io <dhs.short@...> wrote:
Must have been the screw penetrations of the deck not sealed/bedded well enough.? Mine is a ‘97. Those were the gogo dot com ?years. Probably a lot of pressure to get boats out the door.? On May 11, 2025, at 8:38?PM, Michael Oravetz via groups.io <msoravetz@...> wrote:
? May I ask where the leaks are/were coming through?
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-- Dave Short SV One Timer 1997 S362 Mt Desert, ME
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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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The sheet organizer is subject to a lot more stress
My wet core was over a pretty big area. Of course, given time, were the penetration only from the organizer the moisture could travel.
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On May 12, 2025, at 7:24?AM, Michael Henning via groups.io <n654ml@...> wrote:
?I am/was getting some water dripping over the stbd settee when it rains. I had rebedded the fixed portlights and the opening portlights were redone a few years ago, so I figured it may be the hand rails. NeXT time it rains, I will see. The other possibility up there are the three sheeve sheet organizers (it’s got three pulleys in one mechanism to route the lines coming from the boom/mast). That is on line with where the water is presenting itself.
Sent from my ShoePhone
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Michael Henning
1985 S36 Caper
Allen Harbor, RI
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Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME
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Re: Lift Pump replacement
Bob - This should help you find your model number:
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Tim Dokken
1985 Sabre 32 #59
Bayfield, WI
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I am/was getting some water dripping over the stbd settee when it rains. I had rebedded the fixed portlights and the opening portlights were redone a few years ago, so I figured it may be the hand rails. NeXT time it rains, I will see. The other possibility up there are the three sheeve sheet organizers (it’s got three pulleys in one mechanism to route the lines coming from the boom/mast). That is on line with where the water is presenting itself.
Sent from my ShoePhone
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Michael Henning
1985 S36 Caper
Allen Harbor, RI
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Must have been the screw penetrations of the deck not sealed/bedded well enough.? Mine is a ‘97. Those were the gogo dot com ?years. Probably a lot of pressure to get boats out the door.?
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On May 11, 2025, at 8:38?PM, Michael Oravetz via groups.io <msoravetz@...> wrote:
? May I ask where the leaks are/were coming through?
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Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME
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May I ask where the leaks are/were coming through?
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Re: Lift Pump replacement
Thanks everyone. This chart is a big help.
I am still curious what model Mitsubishi engine is the Westerbeke 13.
Bob Marthaler? Shimako S30 mkII Kenosha, WI
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On May 11, 2025, at 12:56, Peter Tollini via groups.io <sabre30@...> wrote:
? That’s a handy chart. I see on the Facet site that the pumps have been upgraded to electronic activation rather than the mechanical breaker points, so they should outlive all of us. Also, the Facet p/n is stamped on the mounting foot. Pete On May 11, 2025, at 9:13?AM, Tim Dokken via groups.io <timdokken@...> wrote:
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As mentioned the original pump was made by Facet. ?There is a replacement guide from Facet to make sure you choose the right pump. ?As long as you have the Westerbeke part number and you should be good.
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Tim Dokken
1985 Sabre 32 #59
Bayfield, WI
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Yes they do leak. Prepurhase survey on my ‘97 362 found wet core all around port handrails so PO paid for replacing core (from the inside) and rebedding both sides . Fastened with self tapping screws into deck alone. Kinda quick and dirty. ?But it has worked (mechanically) for 28 years. Sabre could have done a better sealing job.?
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On May 11, 2025, at 2:41?PM, Michael Henning via groups.io <n654ml@...> wrote:
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can the handrails cause leaking? I re-bedded both rails with Butyl Tape, and was expecting through bolts to secure them. Instead, they were screwed on. ?Do the screws go all the way through? The fiberglass roof liner blocks the view.?
thanks,
Mike
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Michael Henning?
1985 S36 Caper
Allen Harbor, RI
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Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME
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Hi all,
can the handrails cause leaking? I re-bedded both rails with Butyl Tape, and was expecting through bolts to secure them. Instead, they were screwed on. ?Do the screws go all the way through? The fiberglass roof liner blocks the view.?
thanks,
Mike
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Michael Henning?
1985 S36 Caper
Allen Harbor, RI
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Re: Lift Pump replacement
That’s a handy chart. I see on the Facet site that the pumps have been upgraded to electronic activation rather than the mechanical breaker points, so they should outlive all of us. Also, the Facet p/n is stamped on the mounting foot.
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On May 11, 2025, at 9:13?AM, Tim Dokken via groups.io <timdokken@...> wrote:
? Bob -
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As mentioned the original pump was made by Facet. ?There is a replacement guide from Facet to make sure you choose the right pump. ?As long as you have the Westerbeke part number and you should be good.
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<Screenshot 2025-05-11 at 8.05.07?AM.png> ?
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Tim Dokken
1985 Sabre 32 #59
Bayfield, WI
<2025-Catalog-compressed.pdf>
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Re: Raymarine GA-200 not appearing as data source
Hi Carter,
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Might be a dumb question, but do you have the VHF turned on?
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Stephanie
Steve Myers - SV Wind Dancer, 1984 S34, Beaufort NC
David Short, SV One Timer, 1997 362, Mt Desert, ME
David Gerhardt
Tim Dokken
Joe Roberts