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Re: 402 deck organizers
My understanding is that delrin sheaves are better for static loads than bb. Obviously depends on which sheave but organizers are largely static. And small.
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On Mar 19, 2025, at 12:11?AM, Dan Grossman via groups.io <ldg004@...> wrote: --
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Dimensions for 1990 38 mkll
Hi, i need some help with a dimension for a 1990 38 mkll with a wing keel, not easily found online!
I'm a long way from the boat so can't measure myself.
I need the height from the bottom of the keel ( winged) to the highest point on the cabin top.?
This is to see if we can get it into barn without the mast (of course) with restricted height.
Thanks in advance
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38 mkll
Great Lakes
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Re: Inverter/Charger
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Peter:
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Snowy Owl has both a 120V Seafrost unit and an engine driven unit. ?I would like to size the new inverter to occasionally run the 110V refrigeration unit obviating the need to run the engine in quiet anchorage during a multi day stop. I have yet to add solar to the boat, another thing on the to do list.
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Regarding fitting a new inverter in the space where the existing Heart Freedom 10 is; there doesn't seem to be many option that will fit. I can't remove the interconnecting bulkhead to extend it forward as you have done on your boat since on the $02 there is a water tank just forward. ?The only options seem to be to find one that fits or move it elsewhere, into the cockpit locker or maybe under the stairs. ??
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S/V Snowy Owl S402 #40
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Sabre 402 - Bimini
Good morning Sabre enthusiasts,
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I have a customer that is replacing their Bimini ?on their 402 with split backstay. The pushpit is original, as are all mounting points, so I would assume that this would be a fit for nearly any original 402. The Bimini is in perfect condition, we are replacing it to accommodate a solar array.?
if there are any 402 owners out there that are interested in it, please send me an email.?
Jordan
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Re: keel bolts and hatch covers
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOnce, when I unscrewed a hatch knob all the way out, a small spherical bead fell out. The knob locked the hatch much better when the bead was in place. Don¡¯t know if it was OEM.?Steve? Wind Rush II ³§38¨C1 On Mar 12, 2025, at 11:42 AM, Richard McLaren; S34-2 Polaris; Chicago via groups.io <mclarenR17@...> wrote:
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Re: Sabre 36 used sails
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýJust put a big ¡°i¡± in front of the H. People will figure you for the friendly type.?Stephen Burns
Kestrel. 362
Noank CT On Mar 17, 2025, at 2:36?PM, Matt Quinn via groups.io <quinn.matt@...> wrote:
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Re: Sabre 36 used sails
I happen to be in Florida atm and went over to Second Wind to check it out since it's ~15m from where I am. Great selection and John was quite nice. They had a spinnaker for my 36 in great shape but it had a bit H on the front. :-/ Worth checking out, though!
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Re: Inverter/Charger
#Sabre402
Sounds as if you have a Sea Frost 120V A/C unit as do I. I can run mine on pass through AC from the inverter and can disconnect from shore power leaving the 400 Watts of Solar, to charge the batteries and they will remain fully charged with the the refrigeration and bilge pump running. I have not tried this in full on summer heat, more on that after this summer. ?Right now, it is only slightly on the plus side, because there is also some overhead involved because the Inverter uses some power to do the conversion from DC to AC.
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Re: Replacing 402 hot water heater
Good tip on the?drain, Jim. Do you have the original Raritan heater? Arcadia's has a 3/4" tee on the cold water inlet with one end attached to the heater and a plug in the other end. I think this is supposed to be the drain,?but I have not been able?to remove it due?to the?tight space and dried?up pipe dope. The side srm on the tee goes to a bushing and a 1/2" check valve. I loosen the hose clamp on the other side of the valve and unscrew it for winterizing.and draining. When the check valve is loose, it is easier to remove the cold water hose from the barb on the other end and connect it to the hot water hose. I then blow out the system with compressed air and put about a quart of pink antifreeze into the hot water connection using a short hose and funnel,?as described in the Raritan manual.. On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 7:43?PM Jim Gregory via <jgregor1.jg=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Keel bolts
Of greatest concern to me when I did this job was risk of galling. Stainless is notoriously susceptible to this ¡°cold welding¡±, a totally lay expression of what goes on but very descriptive of the outcome. ?I read enough about it to become confused and it ultimately led me to applying Tefgel to the threads when I reinstalled the nuts. I ?reduced the torque setting to 80; read about adjusting torque for lubricated threads vs dry threads. I assumed the torque spec of 90 lbs was dry since there was no specific mention of lube in the owners manual. 80 ft-lbs seems light but that¡¯s what the science says. Or even less if you apply the range of %¡¯s recommended for reduction.
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Sabre says 90 ft-lbs is adequate to do the job so we¡¯re hardly stressing our keel bolts just siting there . Heeled over crashing to windward or rolling vigorously while surfing downwind is another story. We won¡¯t talk about piling her up on the Clumps or anything of that nature.
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I find that crack particularly annoying and next time I redo the torque I will use this (see below) as the washer on a bed of epoxy putty slightly separated from the bolt to allow for a bead of sealant. Then run the torque up to some yet to be determined figure. Maybe 100 or 110 ft-lbs.? Need to consult my naval engineer buddies but I¡¯m sure that would be fine. We¡¯ll see.
This washer size could be maxed out to fit space in the bilge to really disperse the load, ¡seems like it would help.? https://www.mcmaster.com/products/thick-washers/material~316-stainless-steel/system-of-measurement~inch/screw-size~3-4/thickness~0-122-to-0-177-1/
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Re: Keel bolts
You are definitely overthinking it. Could any of those things happen? Yes.
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Do your research, learn from others experiences by searching the forum.?
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I made sure the area was dry around the bolts, and use some penetrating oil before attempting to loosen the nuts. Remember.. on the hard WITH the keel blocked. I remove the nuts and the washers and injected sealant, where it needed to be injected. I then installed the new washers and nuts and torqued to 90 pounds.
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Easy. ( which is saying something when you're working on a boat).
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