Re: Replacing 402 hot water heater
We are actually 8 gallon
On 3/13/2025 1:21 PM, David Short
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My 362 had same Isotemp setup when I purchased 10 years ago.?
Works great, all the HW we need.
On 3/13/2025 11:55 AM, Mike via
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I replaced the Raritan with
a 5 gallon Isotemp with the mixer.? Has worked well, 5
gallons seems to be enough hot water.? It is plumbed with
the engine cooling system and has a 110 heater.? Mike
Sabre 402 #37
Lake Ontario
Arcadia's original Raritan 12 Gal. hot water
heater has rusted out and is leaking, so it is time
for a replacement.? We currently do not have a
mixing valve, so I am planning to add that as well
as a 3 way valve for winterizing.
?
Instead of simply replacing the Raritan, I am
wondering if anyone has experience to share with
using an Isotemp or Quick heater as a replacement. I
see the Isotemp is stainless and plastic, comes with
a mixing valve, and is less expensive than the
Raritan. It looks as if either of those might
require extending or replacing the heat exchanger
hoses.?
?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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-- Jim Harman
Arcadia
S402 #2
Southport CT
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Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME
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Re: Replacing 402 hot water heater
My 362 had same Isotemp setup when I purchased 10 years ago.? Woks
great, all the HW we need.
On 3/13/2025 11:55 AM, Mike via
groups.io wrote:
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I replaced the Raritan with a
5 gallon Isotemp with the mixer.? Has worked well, 5 gallons
seems to be enough hot water.? It is plumbed with the engine
cooling system and has a 110 heater.? Mike
Sabre 402 #37
Lake Ontario
Arcadia's original Raritan 12 Gal. hot water heater
has rusted out and is leaking, so it is time for a
replacement.? We currently do not have a mixing valve,
so I am planning to add that as well as a 3 way valve
for winterizing.
?
Instead of simply replacing the Raritan, I am
wondering if anyone has experience to share with using
an Isotemp or Quick heater as a replacement. I see the
Isotemp is stainless and plastic, comes with a mixing
valve, and is less expensive than the Raritan. It
looks as if either of those might require extending or
replacing the heat exchanger hoses.?
?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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-- Jim Harman
Arcadia
S402 #2
Southport CT
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Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME
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Re: 402 head/shower drains
I will probably check in on the OTHER
Sapphire next week. It might have to wait until after
commissioning, so I can pour some water into the drain.
On 3/13/2025 11:47 AM, Sapphire402 via
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as Glen
remarks, the head side DOES go to the bilge.? the?shower
side needs the shower pump.? at least that is how Sapphire
is plumbed.
Fair winds,
Mike
~~ _/) ~~
svSapphire
2001
Sabre 402
Atlantic
Highlands, NJ
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Re: Replacing 402 hot water heater
I replaced the Raritan with a 5 gallon Isotemp with the mixer.? Has worked well, 5 gallons seems to be enough hot water.? It is plumbed with the engine cooling system and has a 110 heater.? Mike Sabre 402 #37 Lake Ontario
Arcadia's original Raritan 12 Gal. hot water heater has rusted out and is leaking, so it is time for a replacement.? We currently do not have a mixing valve, so I am planning to add that as well as a 3 way valve for winterizing.
?
Instead of simply replacing the Raritan, I am wondering if anyone has experience to share with using an Isotemp or Quick heater as a replacement. I see the Isotemp is stainless and plastic, comes with a mixing valve, and is less expensive than the Raritan. It looks as if either of those might require extending or replacing the heat exchanger hoses.?
?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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-- Jim Harman
Arcadia
S402 #2
Southport CT
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Replacing 402 hot water heater
Arcadia's original Raritan 12 Gal. hot water heater has rusted out and is leaking, so it is time for a replacement.? We currently do not have a mixing valve, so I am planning to add that as well as a 3 way valve for winterizing.
?
Instead of simply replacing the Raritan, I am wondering if anyone has experience to share with using an Isotemp or Quick heater as a replacement. I see the Isotemp is stainless and plastic, comes with a mixing valve, and is less expensive than the Raritan. It looks as if either of those might require extending or replacing the heat exchanger hoses.?
?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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-- Jim Harman
Arcadia
S402 #2
Southport CT
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Re: 402 head/shower drains
as Glen remarks, the head side DOES go to the bilge.? the?shower side needs the shower pump.? at least that is how Sapphire is plumbed. Fair winds, Mike
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svSapphire 2001 Sabre 402 Atlantic Highlands, NJ
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Re: Tonnage Measurement for Sabre 425
Thanks everyone for the indepth discussion.? I submitted my forms...did the simplified tonnage calculation and I had stated that this vessel was previously registered in the States...it's never been registered I Canada and I'm the 3rd owner in Canada.? Now I need to provide / track down a 'Deletion' document. I'll need to figure out the process for this ?
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Re: Tonnage Measurement for Sabre 425
Oh I haven't seen this drawing...the scale drawing is very handy.
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Re: 402 head/shower drains
Thank you, Jordan ( and Glen!). ?I bought an endoscope and plan on checking things our tomorrow.
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If you search the archives there? are many posts about this.
Here are some pic's of the refurb I did on my 34.
The vinyl channel is available at Amazon.
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Phil Horn
S34 #67
Huntington, LI, NY
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Re: 402 head/shower drains
Glen Chaplin, the Oracle as I fondly refer to him, is, among many things, the keeper of Sabre records. He’s in customer service at Sabre and was there during the sailboat production years, and in this group is a celebrity of sorts. I hope that sufficiently answers your question, Scott.?
Glen’s answer…
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“I saw that post on FB, and have been scratching my head trying to find information, or get my brain to work, lol. If memory serves me correctly, I think that the head side drain just goes to the bilge, but I can’t find anything to confirm that. I guess a simple test would be to dump some water on the head side, and see where it goes. I know that it is tight, but if you look under the companionway stairs you might be able to see those drains with a flashlight and mirror.”
To that end, I will run this experiment over the weekend and get my inspection camera handy. I will report back with my findings.?
Have a great day everyone.?
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Re: keel bolts and hatch covers
Good idea.? Thanks.??
-- Rick McLaren
34-2 Polaris?
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Dorade cowls cleaned ! Raymarine Axion +9RV and Quantum 2 Doppler radar
I am still trying to find my way around the group chats.? Please pardon the novice communique.?
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I did want to thank whoever said briefly, "try acetone on the rubber cowl vents".? Worked like a champ ! They look remarkably clean and better.? I call it, not new, but serviceable.? Saved me money.?
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Now I am ordering a new Raymarine Axiom + 9RV and Quantum 2 Doppler for the boat.? Many have stated problem with Raymarine radar but I have a renewed faith based on research.? Guess we'll see....
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Verne Royster
"About Time"
MYC _Mobile, AL
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Re: 402 head/shower drains
Glen is Glen Chaplin at Sabre. He keeps track of and supports legacy Sabres like ours.
Dave Second Star S362 #113 Fair Haven, NY/Lake Ontario
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On Mar 12, 2025, at 9:36?AM, Scott Barnes via groups.io <retbc5@...> wrote:
Hey Jordan. ?Who is Glen? ?Is he admin? ?I bought an endoscope camera and should have it delivered today. ?I hope to have a better idea later today.
Scott
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Re: keel bolts and hatch covers
All the Sabres have the same recommendation for keel bolt torque, remember that’s only when on the hard and the keel fully blocked. Len Bertaux
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On Mar 12, 2025, at 8:29?AM, knightinnc via groups.io <Robertjohnknight@...> wrote:
? My 34 is 90 lbs as well. Make sure it's on the hard if you're going to remove the nuts from the bolts. You may also consider installing larger washers to better distribute the load.
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Robert
s/v Valinor
Sabre 34 Mark I #207
New Bern, NC
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Re: 402 head/shower drains
Possibly a cracked hose from the shower sump? Can you access and Inspect? ?Replacement of that hose was a survey recommendation on my 426.?
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Re: 402 head/shower drains
Hey Jordan. ?Who is Glen? ?Is he admin? ?I bought an endoscope camera and should have it delivered today. ?I hope to have a better idea later today.
Scott
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I used the instructions at
.See #31 "Lexan Fixed Port Replacement Procedure."
Steve Ellis
Cloud Nine, S34mkII
On 3/12/25 08:56, Michael L via
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The fixed ports on my S34-1 leak. Does anyone have
instructions on how to replace the seals and the materials
needed?
Thank you.?
Michael
s/v Eventide
34-1 #237
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The fixed ports on my S34-1 leak. Does anyone have instructions on how to replace the seals and the materials needed?
Thank you.?
Michael
s/v Eventide
34-1 #237
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Re: keel bolts and hatch covers
My 34 is 90 lbs as well. Make sure it's on the hard if you're going to remove the nuts from the bolts. You may also consider installing larger washers to better distribute the load.
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Robert
s/v Valinor
Sabre 34 Mark I #207
New Bern, NC
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David Short, SV One Timer, 1997 362, Mt Desert, ME
Jim Harman
April Bilawchuk
Scott Barnes
Philip Horn
Jordan
Richard McLaren; S34-2 Polaris; Chicago
Len Bertaux
Michael L
knightinnc