I propose a change to the document 'SHARI Allstar Node Setup and Configuration Guide'.? on page 2 the required hardware list suggests a SD Card 16G or larger.? this should be changed to 4G required and larger is optional.? from the Allstar Handbook (found here?? and other places) on page 8...
SD Cards
The information below is from Arm Allstar by Doug Crompton.
Just a reminder though that the read/write performance of the SD cards in a Linux application like Asterisk Allstar is immaterial after boot. So using a faster card is not going to make your system run faster. It would allow faster creation of the initial image and possibly faster boots (measured in a few seconds) but in most cases it would not be practical economically to purchase a super fast SD card. The speed which a card writes is also heavily effected by the type of writer (usb2/3) and the SW used to write. So while the relative differences in these tests might be valid the absolute values of these tests could differ greatly based on the hardware and SW used to write. Tried and true my choice is still the SanDisk Ultra but I am sure there are other cards in it's class that could be used. Also as I mentioned on the web page unless you have a compelling reason it is NOT a good idea to expand the filesystem on these cards after installing the image. Doing so makes total image backup a time consuming process especially on 16GB and larger cards and does nothing to improve performance or longevity
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furthermore,
the image from the current repository at hamvoip.org expands to less than 4G.? it does not auto expand on your SD Card leaving anything above 4G unused anyway.
-NH7IT
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Re: Node 51501 - status unavailable
All of Allstar is messed up right now. The nodes are connecting and if you have a secondary Hamvoip registration then node information os somewhat displaying. NNX nodes are not even listed are now. I am sure it will all get fixed when the status server is rebooted. This has happened before.
Darrell - 73 de W8DSB
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On May 23, 2020, at 13:35, John Simon <john@...> wrote:
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Allstar database is all messed up not sure why.. it started last night
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What does it mean if the SHARI web page cannot find status information about my node?? The node itself seems to be connecting and otherwise functioning properly?
Thanks & 73,
Ralph AA8RK
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No supply issues as far as SHARI is concerned.? Both the Pi3 and the Pi4 supply 1.2 amps max on the USB ports.? SHARI only needs about 500 mA in TX mode.
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Re: Node 51501 - status unavailable
Allstar database is all messed up not sure why.. it started last night
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What does it mean if the SHARI web page cannot find status information about my node?? The node itself seems to be connecting and otherwise functioning properly?
Thanks & 73,
Ralph AA8RK
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Re: Node 51501 - status unavailable
Looks like an AllstarLink issue.? The last node currently shown under Node Status and Maps is 50876.Shows up fine in the Allstar Link Node List.
AllStar Link Node List
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Node 51501 - status unavailable
What does it mean if the SHARI web page cannot find status
information about my node?? The node itself seems to be connecting
and otherwise functioning properly?
Thanks & 73,
Ralph AA8RK
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Hi Darrell,
Are there supply issues with either the PI3 or PI4?
What are the advantages of the Pi4 over the Pi3?
Thanks,
Ralph AA8RK
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On 5/23/2020 9:27 AM, Darrell Black wrote: Hi Steve, there are four versions of the SHARI. UHF/VHF for the PI3 and UHF/VHF for the PI4.
Darrell - 73 de W8DSB
"In God we trust, all others we monitor"
On May 23, 2020, at 09:22, Steve Matzura <number6@...> wrote:
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Electrically, at the USB interface, the Pi3 and? the Pi4 are identical. The only difference is the location of the USB ports to accommodate the new location of the USB ports in the Pi4.? If you plug a SHARI Pi3X (U or V) into a Pi4, The SHARI case blocks access to the Ethernet jack.? The same situation occurs if you you plug a SHARI Pi4X into a Pi3.? If you do not need the ethernet connection (i.e. you connect to the internet using the Pi WiFI) then they are interchangeable.? Also, you can use short USB extension cables.? In fact, you only need one cable as one USB connection is used to operate SHARI with Allstar and the other is used to program the radio in SHARI.? Either will provide the necessary power to SHARI.? Looking at any SHARI from the top with the USB ports on your left and the antenna on your right, the USB port closest to you is for Allstar and the other is for programming.
The only difference between a PiXU and a PiXV is the RF chain - thus the SA818 radio module, the output low pass filter and the antenna are different.
Steve - N8AR
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That idea has a lot of merit. :-)
On 5/23/2020 10:37 AM, Darrell Black
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My understanding is the SHARI's are the same. The
only difference is the USB ports are flipped so the SHARI is
right side up for the PI you are using without blocking?the
Ethernet port.
If it was me, I would?buy a PI3 as they are cheaper?now,
pull less power, and run cooler by swapping your already
created SD card from the PI4 into it and run the system on the
PI3. Use the PI4 for XLX or DVSwitch as its overkill for
allstar.
On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 10:05
AM Steve Matzura < number6@...> wrote:
I actually didn't order
anything. I know that sounds weird. I wrote
about ordering one back in February, Shari replied to my
message, and I
either didn't receive it or accidentally deleted it. I wrote a
message
to this list asking about how to find out my position on the
list for
nodes. I got a reply telling me about the February message,
also saying
I could be invoiced for what I wanted on that very day. I
received the
invoice, paid it, got the nodes shortly thereafter, installed
and tested
them, and went on my merry way. I really didn't know there
were two, one
for each Pi. Turns out, functionally anyway, it doesn't appear
to
matter, but if there's something about the units for the 4
that's
different than the one for the 3 and I should really have
those, I have
friends who are interested in taking the 3's off my hands
almost
immediately, and I'll just get the right ones.purchase the
4's.
On 5/23/2020 9:36 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
> I noticed that when ordering, and ordered the appropriate
PI.
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My understanding is the SHARI's are the same. The only difference is the USB ports are flipped so the SHARI is right side up for the PI you are using without blocking?the Ethernet port.
If it was me, I would?buy a PI3 as they are cheaper?now, pull less power, and run cooler by swapping your already created SD card from the PI4 into it and run the system on the PI3. Use the PI4 for XLX or DVSwitch as its overkill for allstar.
On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 10:05 AM Steve Matzura < number6@...> wrote: I actually didn't order anything. I know that sounds weird. I wrote
about ordering one back in February, Shari replied to my message, and I
either didn't receive it or accidentally deleted it. I wrote a message
to this list asking about how to find out my position on the list for
nodes. I got a reply telling me about the February message, also saying
I could be invoiced for what I wanted on that very day. I received the
invoice, paid it, got the nodes shortly thereafter, installed and tested
them, and went on my merry way. I really didn't know there were two, one
for each Pi. Turns out, functionally anyway, it doesn't appear to
matter, but if there's something about the units for the 4 that's
different than the one for the 3 and I should really have those, I have
friends who are interested in taking the 3's off my hands almost
immediately, and I'll just get the right ones.purchase the 4's.
On 5/23/2020 9:36 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
> I noticed that when ordering, and ordered the appropriate PI.
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Darrell Black (517) 917-2226 GigaHacker@...73 de W8DSB "In God we trust, all others we monitor"
GMRS WRDE739
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I actually didn't order anything. I know that sounds weird. I wrote about ordering one back in February, Shari replied to my message, and I either didn't receive it or accidentally deleted it. I wrote a message to this list asking about how to find out my position on the list for nodes. I got a reply telling me about the February message, also saying I could be invoiced for what I wanted on that very day. I received the invoice, paid it, got the nodes shortly thereafter, installed and tested them, and went on my merry way. I really didn't know there were two, one for each Pi. Turns out, functionally anyway, it doesn't appear to matter, but if there's something about the units for the 4 that's different than the one for the 3 and I should really have those, I have friends who are interested in taking the 3's off my hands almost immediately, and I'll just get the right ones.purchase the 4's.
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On 5/23/2020 9:27 AM, Darrell Black wrote: Hi Steve, there are four versions of the SHARI. UHF/VHF for the PI3 and UHF/VHF for the PI4.
Darrell - 73 de W8DSB
"In God we trust, all others we monitor"
On May 23, 2020, at 09:22, Steve Matzura <number6@...> wrote:
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Hi Steve, there are four versions of the SHARI. UHF/VHF for the PI3 and UHF/VHF for the PI4.
Darrell - 73 de W8DSB
"In God we trust, all others we monitor"
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I bought, and am very happy with, two pre-built nodes, one each for VHf and UHF, and they appear to be specifically for the Pi 3. I own a Pi 4. While both units work perfectly, did I buy the wrong ones, or is it only the configuration and location of the USB ports that differentiate the two units, if indeed there actually *are* two units--one for the 3 and one for the 4?
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Re: blind shari user needs help
Neil, I did some poking around in allstar (HAMVOIP version) and found these two files. This is from a allstar node that has a working SHARI attached. Maybe you can compare to your files and see if the URI setup has one of these parameters set in a way that the USB does not work for the SHARI. If all else fails, make a new SDcard and start over. I build portable Allstar nodes every day to play with different options. I have it down to about 10 minutes from making the SDcard to a running node. file?/etc/asterisk/simpleusb_tune_usb.conf
[usb]
; name=usb
; devicenum=0
devstr=1-1.1.3:1.0
rxmixerset=450
txmixaset=500
txmixbset=0
txdsplvl=999 file?/etc/asterisk/simpleusb.conf
[usb]
?
;?
?
?
eeprom=0
; 1 = Indicates that an EEPROM internal to the radio
;? ? ?adapter and cable is expected.?
; 0 = no warning message if no EEPROM found.
?
rxboost=0
; Rx Audio Boost
; 0 = 20db attenuator inserted?
; 1 = 20db attenuator removed
; Set to 1 for additonal gain if using a low-level
; receiver output.
?
carrierfrom=usbinvert
; Options - no,usb,usbinvert?
; no - no carrier detection at all
; usb - via USB radio adapter COR connection
; usbinvert - same as above but inverted polarity.
?
ctcssfrom=no
; CTCSS Decoder Source
; Options = no,usb,dsp
; no - CTCSS decoding, system will be carrier squelch
; usb - CTCSS decoding using input from USB adapter?
; usbinvert - same as above but inverted polarity.
?
invertptt=0
; Invert PTT 0 = ground to transmit, 1 = open to
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; transmit
?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; This is the collector lead of the 2n4401 on the?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; modified usb sound fob.
?
plfilter=no
; enable PL filter
; yes, enabled
; no, disabled
?
deemphasis=yes
; enable de-emphasis (input from discriminator)
; yes, enabled
; no, disabled
?
preemphasis=yes
; enable pre-emphasis (output to Tx)
; yes, enabled
; no, disabled
?
rxaudiodelay=0
; default value is 0
; rx audio delay for squelch tail elimination.
; Squelch tail delay in 20ms frames. Values range
; from? 0 (no delay) to 24 (480ms delay)
; Typical values would range from 5-10 (100-200ms)
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Re: blind shari user needs help
This was a fully assembled and programmed Sherry and it appears to be working based on what I could find from a play space Dash L & LSUSB Sent with . Please excuse any dictation errors.
On 21 May 2020 22:10, "Darrell Black" wrote: Neil, did you buy the fully assembled device or did you purchase it as a kit? I only ask because if it¡¯s a kit maybe the USB connector is not soldier correctly causing it not to be detected by Allstar. On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 21:43 Neil k8it < k8it@...> wrote: I am still looking for help on how to get to Sherry to be excepted by the Allstar software for anybody like we would like to help me I would greatly appreciate the help and yes I have been rebuilding
Sent with . Please excuse any dictation errors. On 20 May 2020 14:37, "Brad Trogdon" wrote: Plug in SHARI and reboot. It should then detect You cannot hot swap.
-Brad On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 2:34 PM Neil k8it < k8it@...> wrote:
I am trying to upgrade from a uri to a new shari.
simpleusb-tune-menu does not detect it. id is -1 aplay -l and lsusb do see
it. when I plug in the uri again eeverything works fine.
please help
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky K8IT
Allstar Node
41838 KITLINK
Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
IRLP Node exp0068
Echolink
K8IT-L
WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479
Darrell Black (517) 917-2226 GigaHacker@...73 de W8DSB "In God we trust, all others we monitor"
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Re: blind shari user needs help
Neil, did you buy the fully assembled device or did you purchase it as a kit? I only ask because if it¡¯s a kit maybe the USB connector is not soldier ?correctly causing it not to be detected by Allstar.
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 21:43 Neil k8it < k8it@...> wrote: I am still looking for help on how to get to Sherry to be excepted by the Allstar software for anybody like we would like to help me I would greatly appreciate the help and yes I have been rebuilding
Sent with . Please excuse any dictation errors. On 20 May 2020 14:37, "Brad Trogdon" wrote: Plug in SHARI and reboot. It should then detect You cannot hot swap.
-Brad On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 2:34 PM Neil k8it < k8it@...> wrote:
I am trying to upgrade from a uri to a new shari.
simpleusb-tune-menu does not detect it. id is -1 aplay -l and lsusb do see
it. when I plug in the uri again eeverything works fine.
please help
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky K8IT
Allstar Node
41838 KITLINK
Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
IRLP Node exp0068
Echolink
K8IT-L
WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479
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Darrell Black (517) 917-2226 GigaHacker@...73 de W8DSB "In God we trust, all others we monitor"
GMRS WRDE739
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Re: blind shari user needs help
I am still looking for help on how to get to Sherry to be excepted by the Allstar software for anybody like we would like to help me I would greatly appreciate the help and yes I have been rebuilding Sent with . Please excuse any dictation errors.
On 20 May 2020 14:37, "Brad Trogdon" wrote: Plug in SHARI and reboot. It should then detect You cannot hot swap.
-Brad On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 2:34 PM Neil k8it < k8it@...> wrote:
I am trying to upgrade from a uri to a new shari.
simpleusb-tune-menu does not detect it. id is -1 aplay -l and lsusb do see
it. when I plug in the uri again eeverything works fine.
please help
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky K8IT
Allstar Node
41838 KITLINK
Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
IRLP Node exp0068
Echolink
K8IT-L
WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479
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Re: blind shari user needs help
I always reboot
?
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky? K8IT
Allstar Node
41838 KITLINK
Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
IRLP Node exp0068
Echolink
K8IT-L
WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479
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Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SHARI] blind shari user needs help
Plug in SHARI and reboot.? It should then detect ? You cannot hot
swap.?
-Brad
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 2:34 PM Neil k8it < k8it@...> wrote:
I am trying to upgrade from a uri to a new shari.
simpleusb-tune-menu does not detect it. id is -1? aplay -l and lsusb do
see it. when I plug in the uri again eeverything works fine.
please help
?
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky? K8IT
Allstar Node
41838 KITLINK
Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
IRLP Node
exp0068
Echolink K8IT-L
WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479
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Re: blind shari user needs help
Plug in SHARI and reboot.? It should then detect ? You cannot hot swap.?
-Brad
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 2:34 PM Neil k8it < k8it@...> wrote:
I am trying to upgrade from a uri to a new shari.
simpleusb-tune-menu does not detect it. id is -1? aplay -l and lsusb do see
it. when I plug in the uri again eeverything works fine.
please help
?
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky? K8IT
Allstar Node
41838 KITLINK
Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
IRLP Node exp0068
Echolink
K8IT-L
WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479
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