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Stack Light (was Yes, the builder’s plate # is correct.
I can't argue persuasively just from a limited memory of seeing stack light photos over the years—and obviously there were instances of coal burners with them—but my conjecture is that I can't recall any use on roads that DIDN'T also use oil-burners. Now someone with better knowledge, or at least a better memory, will surely cite exceptions... While it is true that a competent fireman kept an eye on the stack as an indicator of fuel efficiency, I suspect an experienced one had a good feel, given the quality of the coal, how the fire was doing even without constant checking the color of the smoke. JGGK From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mike Swederska via groups.io <mikesscale@...> Sent: Monday, April 7, 2025 9:53 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [S-Scale] Yes, the builder’s plate # is correct. Hi Jace, Don't tell that to the Frisco. https://frisco.org/mainline/2018/03/02/2-8-0-1304-2/ ms From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of JGG KahnSr via groups.io <jacekahn@...> Sent: Monday, April 7, 2025 12:52 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [S-Scale] Yes, the builder’s plate # is correct. And the reason for that was presumably for oil-burners, so the fireman could see how the fuel delivery mix was working, not something needed for coal burners. JGGK From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mike Swederska via groups.io <mikesscale@...> Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2025 8:09 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [S-Scale] Yes, the builder’s plate # is correct. It is also called a stack light. It is used the see the smoke color at night. Mike Swederska On Apr 6, 2025, at 5:50 PM, David R. Henley Jr via groups.io <henley31c@...> wrote: ? Hello Mike, For those of us not in the know. Can you tell us what a smoke light is and what function it does? I have never noticed one on a steam locomotive before. Regards, David Henley -- Mike Swederska Meramec Valley Lines Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16 https://www.youtube.com/@mikesscale3149 Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun! -- Mike Swederska Meramec Valley Lines Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16 https://www.youtube.com/@mikesscale3149 Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!
Started by JGG KahnSr @
CONTACTING WILLIAM MORRIS
Hello William, ? Hello again most likely, We have probably talked before? My senior memory isn’t good I am always keeping an eye out for: VINTAGE CAST METAL PARTS: BOLSTERS HI RAIL WHEELSETS CAST METAL FREIGHT TRUCKS MAYBE OTHER CAST METAL FREIGHT CAR PARTS? Love to see pictures to help me decide!!!! Yours in the hobby Roger Haag S Scale Man Hendersonville, NC On Apr 8, 2025, at 11:14 AM, Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote: ? Bill, Coming from a hardened seller of S equipment I am still feeling your pain as it's the same as mine! One seems to need photos, sometimes even when things seem to be NIB. I would think the stuff built by the "greats" would do better displayed to those who still might have a 401? With our ranks thinning along with financial uncertainty, the incline is now into rugged territory! I probably still hold 2-3 dozen items from two owners but I'm not in the mood! In the past several years I've cleared out a HOn3 layout of mostly brass power some wooden scratch structures, and some machine tools. It was a 6-8 month trip mostly uphill. Re-motored little C&S steam went quickly while typical NG buildings sold for peanuts eventually. Troxell's S layout was very large even after the estate sellers got rid of the boxed brass. This was well over a year's selling mostly from this list. What surprised me was that he had some really old 0 scale that went very well and sort of high. Couple all that with what I've been selling personally, then Billy Clicks' accumulation was even larger. I hope all this stops as these are good friends and I'd rather have them around talking and walking rather than my receiving a minor % commission! Bob Werre Phototraxx [Edited Message Follows] Anyone that needs something in particular in S Scale ? I have decided that my entire collection needs to be sold including new unused bench work and some sections of 3 former layouts. I have almost anything that was prototypical from most Northeastern / New England railroads during the period 1920 through 1955 all in S Scale. This includes about 250 Northeastern and Kinsman kits, and kits from all the major manufacturers along with about 150 SHS products and about 100 PRS kits left, trucks, buildings and building kits, bridges built and in kit form, many Walthers kits, much flex track mostly code 100 and 125, and some code 83 rail. Some very rare stuff - 0ver 250 locomotives both brass wood and SSL&S kits and scratch built by many of S scales former master builders. about 55 cars built by Bill Boucher 10 by Jim Konas and others. Also many many detail parts. Easier for me to ask what you are looking for specifically than list what I actually have. Please contact me by Private email right here on I o groups s scale.Please realize it may take me some time to get back to you due to still working 5 days a week. I will reply but only have so many hours a week to do so. This is mostly all SCALE not much hi-rail. All AF is junky bodies for conversion to scale. Thank you all Bill Morris Well apparently this method of my "shotgun" approach Is not working well since I have been inundated with emails all using the same subject header a reply to my post, and since most everyone wants to see what they are purchasing and request photos which I am terrible at doing BTW - looks like I need to do this differently. SO I will take photos of small "lots" of cars" and post the photos here in separate messages such as others have done. Looks like this will take years for me to complete doing. I am amazed no one wants original Kinsman kits especially the passenger cars or Ambroid snow plow kits.. SO OK I will now try the hard way for me to list all this stuff. Please if responding Change the subject line for your message to reflect what you want so I can find your message later on to reply to you. ThankS Bill Morris
Started by Roger Haag @
Anyone looking to buy S Scale trains my collection needs to get sold 5
Anyone that needs something in particular in S Scale ? I have decided that my entire collection needs to be sold including new unused bench work and some sections of 3 former layouts. I have almost anything that was prototypical from most Northeastern / New England railroads during the period 1920 through 1955 all in S Scale. This includes about 250 Northeastern and Kinsman kits, and kits from all the major manufacturers along with about 150 SHS products and about 100 PRS kits left, trucks, buildings and building kits, bridges built and in kit form, many Walthers kits, much flex track mostly code 100 and 125, and some code 83 rail. Some very rare stuff - 0ver 250 locomotives both brass wood and SSL&S kits and scratch built by many of S scales former master builders. about 55 cars built by Bill Boucher 10 by Jim Konas and others. Also many many detail parts. Easier for me to ask what you are looking for specifically than list what I actually have. Please contact me by Private email right here on I o groups s scale.Please realize it may take me some time to get back to you due to still working 5 days a week. I will reply but only have so many hours a week to do so. This is mostly all SCALE not much hi-rail. All AF is junky bodies for conversion to scale. Thank you all Bill Morris Well apparently this method of my "shotgun" approach Is not working well since I have been inundated with emails all using the same subject header a reply to my post, and since most everyone wants to see what they are purchasing and request photos which I am terrible at doing BTW - looks like I need to do this differently. SO I will take photos of small "lots" of cars" and post the photos here in separate messages such as others have done. Looks like this will take years for me to complete doing. I am amazed no one wants original Kinsman kits especially the passenger cars or Ambroid snow plow kits.. SO OK I will now try the hard way for me to list all this stuff. Please if responding Change the subject line for your message to reflect what you want so I can find your message later on to reply to you. ThankS Bill Morris
Started by William Morris @ · Most recent @
Convention Holiday Inn 2
I have heard this before but I just made my room reservations for the NASG Convention at the Holiday Inn. It was mentioned that there are only 2 rooms left in the reduced rate block. Maybe a call needs to be made to add more discounted rooms. Thank You, Bill Lane Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987 See my finished models at: http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Models.htm Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! See my layout progress at: http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
Started by Bill Lane @ · Most recent @
airslide decals 15
I have a couple of Airslides to finish. One will be Milwaukee grey but I am looking for ideas for the other one. John Mann showed a great Burlington scheme but said he used decals so the car data is not perfect. I could pay to have that corrected but before I do that, I would like to see what else is around. I have a couple extras of the BN and MN&S for the 4180 car if anyone is looking for that car. -- Ken Zieska 1/64th Scale Modeler
Started by Ken Zieska @ · Most recent @
Overland S-2
Hi folks, the S-2 has been sold. Thank you to all that responded and to those that made some very nice comments. Take care, Bill
Started by Bill McClung @
For Sale Overland Alco S-2 2
Hi, I have a Overland S-2, DC. Custom painted Southern Pacific, Tiger Stripe #1351 Locomotive was on display for a number of years and has no run time on it except some test time. Probably needs to be lubed. Pictures on request, please email off list to mcclungbj@... $450.00 plus shipping. Many thanks for looking. Bill
Started by Bill McClung @ · Most recent @
Yes, the builder’s plate # is correct. 10
Enjoy the front end view. -- Mike Swederska Meramec Valley Lines Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16 https://www.youtube.com/@mikesscale3149 Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!
Started by Mike Swederska @ · Most recent @
Sunday Afternoon on the layout 2
Afternoon everyone, Off and on rain here, so down into the basement. RDG T1 #2107 going around I10 #2008, which helped make up it's train. Yes, that is code 148 AM rail. The layout is about 75% former 2x4 transportable modules built in the late 1980's/early 1990's. You can see one of the 4" 'Dutchman" pieces connecting the two sections. And , yes the eccentric rod on #2008 does need some shop time. Hope you all having some fun. Hugh
Started by Hugh Sinn @ · Most recent @
Yes, the builder's plate # is correct.
Builders plates should be etched which I don’t know how to do. But I have been making and casting number plates for years….. http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling_2.htm Awesome work Mike. You are the epitome of the S Scale spirit and extreme skills. I have been to Mike’s house. He does this with a rather basic shop as well. Thank You, Bill Lane Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987 See my finished models at: http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Models.htm Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! See my layout progress at: http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
Started by Bill Lane @
I see the new light II
I took Jamie’s post as a challenge. The searches on both Home Depot and Lowes is AWFUL.... But I did find these. https://www.lowes.com/pd/GE-LED-32-Watt-EQ-48-in-Daylight-Linear-LED-Tube-Light-Bulb-20-Pack/5000762879?store=&cm_mmc=shp-_-b-_-prd-_-pro-_-ggl-_-PLA_ELC_000_PRO-_-5000762879-_-online-_-0-_-0&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqcO_BhDaARIsACz62vO1KuX8UcJQwoJpPmqRIcnGPOxdgSYarWQ76x3I810ICYLoJiyvnFIaArptEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds I got 40 glass 4' LED tubes for $200.00 They are 6500K but are not adjustable. The entire basement is redone with some tubes to spare. I want to add a few more fixtures. Thank You, Bill Lane Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987 See my finished models at: http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Models.htm Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! See my layout progress at: http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
Started by Bill Lane @
Don Thompson TrainStuff tribute 5
Thanks to Pete Silcox sending me these vintage kits, I was able to build a pair of Don Thompson's early TrainStuff resin kits last week. The Burlington Northern 50' 6" Flush Plug Door Box Car was one of three versions of these cars. The 40' 6" New York Central box car kit was a model of the LCL Pacemaker series cars, however I modeled it as it was post Pacemaker service. I've modeled several of these TrainStuff kits before. All use resin cast flat sides/end/roof with a wood floor. I enhanced these two models with various Pacific Rail Shops styrene castings. I've found that most of these vintage TrainStuff kits tend to have the original green tissue paper protective wrapping stuck to the resin castings and the side castings are always warped top to bottom. A little soap and water and some time with a hair dryer easily corrects these problems. After all of these years, these kits still build up into very nice models. Thank you, Don!
Started by adguytrains @ · Most recent @
Locomotive Workshop Vintage Styrene Kits 4
Anyone who has attempted to build one of the vintage Locomotive Workshop styrene 40' Box Car kits over the past many years knows the problems associated with their building. These old kits featured flat styrene cast sides, ends roof and underbody with very poor quality styrene ladders, doors, steps and HO brake details. They came with either Youngstown and Superior 10' 6" doors as well as Dreadnaught and Miller end choices. The sides came with a choice of riveted or welded versions and the roofs featured wood or metal walkways. One of the major problems has always been the joining of the sides & ends, always a pain and difficult. After now having built more than a dozen of these kits over the years, I've pretty much found a fool proof way for assembling them. With the addition of some Pacific Rail Shops detail parts, they build into some very nice models. I recently discovered that they also marketed a double sheathed wood sided box car. While these sides originally were much too tall for my taste, some minor trimming and modifications allowed me to duplicate one of the Santa Fe's Bx9 box cars. I'm attaching photos of this ATSF car, a double door Southern Pacific Auto/Box car and Erie Railroad 40' Box Car made from these Locomotive Workshop kits. They are worth the effort if you ever find any kits at train shows, etc. Bob Hogan
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Locomotive Workshop kit Photos 3
It seems that the photos did not post, so here's another try. Bob Hogan
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I see the new light 17
I have been threatening myself to do it for a long time but I finally did it.... I have a continuous loop of fluorescent light fixtures around my layout. Fluorescent is about the worst lighting you can have for photography. What is worse the tubes are mostly over 10 years old. While they still "light" I am sure they are much dimmer than when new. That is what happens to fluorescent tubes as they age. There is a commercial electric supply near my house. I stopped by and asked about 4' LED tubes that will roll in and work with my fixture ballasts. I bought 4 of them for a test. Most LED tubes are plastic. These are glass. They are MUCH brighter than my old fluorescent tubes. The coolest thing is the slide switch to adjust the Kelvin. I set to 6500 which is bright white. They are - YIKES - $13.00 EACH. I need about 24 of them. This will be a little at a time project. I am also going to replace some OLD fluorescent fixtures. Some LED fixtures are cheaper than retro of the fluorescent tubes. Thank You, Bill Lane Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987 See my finished models at: http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Models.htm Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! See my layout progress at: http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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Look What's Being Done In S Today 15
That's the theme of the NASG ads that have run on the inside cover of every RMC since mid-2022 and which are scheduled to run through December 2027, unless something changes. I'm an advocate that the best way to grow S is to share with modelers in other scales what's being done in S today through all the avenues available, including in the multiscale magazines like RMC, MR and NMRA Magazine. While advocating for new products is fine, as is sharing our modeling among ourselves, nice S models and layouts can be built today with what's available both new and on the secondary markets and we need to share that modeling with those outside of S. I reiterate that I'm ready, willing and able to help anyone get a photo of their S model in Model Railroader's Trackside Photos feature. Thanks to the few guys who have already provided photos. The first one, by Gaylord Gill, appeared in last month's MR. We expect several more will be published in 2025. This is not an NASG sanctioned program...it's just something I've offered to do. I've just completed detailing an American Models Baldwin to represent B&O 9271 (photos attached). I scratchbuilt the unusual MU panels from styrene and made new railings from brass wire. I used commercially available wipers, shades, horn, MU hoses, drop steps and headlights. I'm working on an article on this build for Model Railroader with the purpose of showing what can be done in S with what you can buy today. The caboose and hoppers in the images are also available today. Is there as much available in S as in HO or N? No, of course not. Can you build nice models in S with what is available today with common modeling techniques and materials? Absolutely! Let's show folks outside of S what can be done...and IS being done...and not just talk among ourselves about what we wish we had. Brooks Stover
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T&NO Decals 8
When I asked about decals for my Gold Coast SP caboose, another list member generously offered me a set of those produced by Rail Graphics for them. My problem now is that I'd really like to letter my pair for T&NO, but the composite set does not include any T&NO options. K4 doesn't make any SP caboose lettering. Can anyone suggest another source? JGGK
Started by JGG KahnSr @ · Most recent @
Surplus Items For Sake 23
I have some surplus items that need to find new homes. Offers accepted. Buyer pays USPS shipping. American Models Milwaukee Road Chippewa 462 light Pacific. DC Hi-rail. Asking $200. American Models Rock Island u25b. AC Hi-rail. Asking $150. American Models Erie Lackawanna GP35. DC scale. All parts included. Asking $125. This unit has the spring type drive. See photos. American Models Seaboard Air Line Baldwin S12. DCC with scale wheels. Has a Digitrax DH166d decoder installed. Asking $125. Please respond via private message by clicking the link below. I may not see this if you do not reply privately. Thank you for looking.
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Back on the hamster wheel (was Why "Scale"? 3
Just a perspective note: there has been abuse of Tyco as the worst of HO, but that is not because it wasn't "scale." It really was full scale, as its roots were in John Tyler's Mantua line, which was pretty much state of the art before really good brass started to come from Japan. Why most tend to think of it as crap is that Tyco was the train-set, mass market marketing branch, which rapidly descended into cheaper and cheaper products to sell to a disposable toy market. It wasn't so much that Tyco products were not full scale as that they lacked detail and quality material. JGGK From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dale Smith via groups.io <dfsmith26@...> Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2025 1:28 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [S-Scale] Why "Scale"? it's all my fault I preface this by saying that I am primarily a collector of AF in all gauges as well as a collector of information on model railroad history. I don't really think that Hi Railers or AF collectors resent or disrespect those who are creating fine scale railroads in S scale, but we don't appreciate being likened to Albatrosses and being told that our equipment isn't "S Scale," but only "S Gauge." Those aren't alternates, but are two different things. American Flyer is S scale as it has a prototype and it is reproduced in 1/64 scale. Most Flyer equipment is within a few inches of the length and width of the prototypes. Granted, it may not be fine scale, just like Tyco HO isn't fine scale HO. I have great respect for the fine scale work done in S gauge and enjoy reading about it and seeing it. There is also some very interesting history in the scale oriented manufacturers of the past. I do think the NASG is doing a good job of serving the interests of AF, Hi Rail and fine scale modelers, which is not easy. Why is it that only people in S gauge tend to divide the gauge into camps. I may be wrong, but I don't think people in HO regard the Tyco people as albatrosses. They just ignore them. The problem in S is that Hi Rail and AF are 80% of the market, so we get the most attention from manufacturers. I think the solution is for manufacturers to make highly detailed models with interchangeable wheels and provision for body mounted scale couplers. No one operating AF or Hi rail is going to object to detail far greater than was prevalent in 60-70 year old AF. Hopefully for all, the current manufacturers will follow that approach. Unfortunately, with so much manufacturing based in China, I don't think that the future of any model products is great and prices will most likely be going up. The current uncertainties of international trade make this a bad time for new ventures. Dale Smith On 4/1/2025 3:58 PM, George Courtney via groups.io wrote: I'm a scale track guy. Perhaps because I came from HO and not American Flyer. I don't care if you use Code 800 for your rail and string for couplers. I'm just tried of being bashed by Some AF and Hi-railers for liking scale. It's gone on since this group started. I really, really don't care what you do with your hobby money. If you like what you're doing, why do you care I'm not interested in hi-rail and AF couplers? Do what you like. I've made a point to ask Hi-railers to join our local Blue Ridge Group. Not one has stepped forward. I hope high railers and AF types stick with us scalers because we are a small group and need each other. But, speaking for myself, again, I really really don't think badly of you for spending your money how you want. I just ask you treat me the same. Or you can believe I'm a snob. Your choice. Sorry to rant, but my intentions are good. George Courtney Virus-free.www.avg.com
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