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Re: Sn3 - the climb to Cumbres video

 

Great video Craig! Gorgeous Scenery!?
Great looking freight!?
'Takes me back to my Chama days!? Wow!
Thanks so much for posting!
Ol' Bill

On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 7:44?AM Craig Wright via <pegasusbike=[email protected]> wrote:


Stack Light (was Yes, the builder’s plate # is correct.

 

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I can't argue persuasively just from a limited memory of seeing stack light photos over the years—and obviously there were instances of coal burners with them—but my conjecture is that I can't recall any use on roads that DIDN'T also use oil-burners.? Now someone with better knowledge, or at least a better memory, will surely cite exceptions...
While it is true that a competent fireman kept an eye on the stack as an indicator of fuel efficiency, I suspect an experienced one had a good feel, given the quality of the coal, how the fire was doing even without constant checking the color of the smoke.

JGGK



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mike Swederska via groups.io <mikesscale@...>
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2025 9:53 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [S-Scale] Yes, the builder’s plate # is correct.
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Hi Jace,
Don't tell that to the Frisco.



ms

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of JGG KahnSr via groups.io <jacekahn@...>
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2025 12:52 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [S-Scale] Yes, the builder’s plate # is correct.
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And the reason for that was presumably for oil-burners, so the fireman could see how the fuel delivery mix was working, not something needed for coal burners.

JGGK



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mike Swederska via groups.io <mikesscale@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2025 8:09 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [S-Scale] Yes, the builder’s plate # is correct.
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It is also called a stack light. It is used the see the smoke color at night.?
Mike Swederska?

On Apr 6, 2025, at 5:50?PM, David R. Henley Jr via groups.io <henley31c@...> wrote:

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Hello Mike,
? ? For those of us not in the know.? Can you tell us what a smoke light is and what function it does?? I have never noticed one on a steam locomotive before.
?
Regards,
David Henley

--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
https://www.youtube.com/@mikesscale3149

Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!

--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
https://www.youtube.com/@mikesscale3149

Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!


CONTACTING WILLIAM MORRIS

 

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?Hello William,

? Hello again most likely,
We have probably talked before?
My senior memory isn’t good?

I am always keeping an eye out for:
VINTAGE CAST METAL PARTS:
? ? BOLSTERS
? ? HI RAIL WHEELSETS?
? ? CAST METAL FREIGHT TRUCKS
? ? MAYBE OTHER CAST METAL FREIGHT CAR ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? PARTS?

Love to see pictures to help me decide!!!!

Yours in the hobby
Roger ?Haag ? ? S Scale Man
Hendersonville, NC?image0.jpeg


On Apr 8, 2025, at 11:14?AM, Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:

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Bill,? Coming from a hardened seller of S equipment I am still feeling your pain as it's the same as mine!? One seems to need photos, sometimes even when things seem to be NIB.? I would think the stuff built by the "greats" would do better displayed to those who still might have a 401?? With our ranks thinning along with financial uncertainty, the incline is now into? rugged territory!

I probably still hold 2-3 dozen items from two owners but I'm not in the mood!?

In the past several years I've cleared out a HOn3 layout of mostly brass power some wooden scratch structures, and some machine tools.? It was a 6-8 month trip mostly uphill.? Re-motored? little C&S steam went quickly while typical NG buildings sold for peanuts eventually.?

Troxell's S layout was very large even after the estate sellers got rid of the boxed brass.? This was well over a year's selling mostly from this list.? What surprised me was that he had some really old 0 scale that went very well and sort of high.?

Couple all that with what I've been selling personally, then Billy Clicks' accumulation was even larger.? I hope all this stops as these are good friends and I'd rather have them around talking and walking rather than my receiving a minor % commission!

Bob Werre
Phototraxx

[Edited Message Follows]

Anyone that needs something in? particular in S Scale? ? I have decided that my entire collection needs to be sold including new unused bench work and some sections of 3 former layouts. I have almost anything that was prototypical from most Northeastern / New England railroads during the period 1920 through 1955 all in S Scale. This includes about 250 Northeastern and Kinsman kits, and kits from all the major manufacturers along with about 150 SHS products and about 100 PRS kits left, trucks, buildings and building kits, bridges built and in kit form, many Walthers kits, much flex track mostly code 100 and 125, and some code 83 rail. Some very rare stuff - 0ver 250 locomotives both brass wood and SSL&S kits and scratch built by many of S scales former master builders. about 55 cars built by Bill Boucher 10 by Jim Konas and others. Also many many detail parts. Easier for me to ask what you are looking for specifically than list what I actually have. Please contact me by Private email right here on I o groups s scale.Please realize it may take me some time to get back to you due to still working 5 days a week. I will reply but only have so many hours a week to do so. This is mostly all SCALE not much hi-rail. All AF is junky bodies for conversion to scale.
Thank you all
Bill Morris
?
Well apparently this method of my "shotgun" approach Is not working well since I have been inundated with emails all using the same subject header a reply to my post, and since most everyone wants to see what they are purchasing and request photos which I am terrible at doing BTW - looks like I need to do this differently. SO I will take photos of small?
"lots" of cars" and post the photos here in separate messages such as others have done. Looks like this will take years for me to complete doing.? I am amazed no one wants original Kinsman kits? especially the passenger cars or Ambroid snow plow kits.. SO OK I will now try the hard way for me to list all this stuff. Please if responding? Change the subject line for
your message to reflect what you want so I can find your message later on to reply to you.
?
ThankS
Bill Morris
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Re: Sn3 - the climb to Cumbres video

 

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Craig,

I've recently spent many hours watching older VHS RR fan trips mostly on the 1:1 NG.? Your footage on your line is excellent and could blend in!

Bob Werre
Phototraxx



Re: Anyone looking to buy S Scale trains my collection needs to get sold

 

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Bill,? Coming from a hardened seller of S equipment I am still feeling your pain as it's the same as mine!? One seems to need photos, sometimes even when things seem to be NIB.? I would think the stuff built by the "greats" would do better displayed to those who still might have a 401?? With our ranks thinning along with financial uncertainty, the incline is now into? rugged territory!

I probably still hold 2-3 dozen items from two owners but I'm not in the mood!?

In the past several years I've cleared out a HOn3 layout of mostly brass power some wooden scratch structures, and some machine tools.? It was a 6-8 month trip mostly uphill.? Re-motored? little C&S steam went quickly while typical NG buildings sold for peanuts eventually.?

Troxell's S layout was very large even after the estate sellers got rid of the boxed brass.? This was well over a year's selling mostly from this list.? What surprised me was that he had some really old 0 scale that went very well and sort of high.?

Couple all that with what I've been selling personally, then Billy Clicks' accumulation was even larger.? I hope all this stops as these are good friends and I'd rather have them around talking and walking rather than my receiving a minor % commission!

Bob Werre
Phototraxx

[Edited Message Follows]

Anyone that needs something in? particular in S Scale? ? I have decided that my entire collection needs to be sold including new unused bench work and some sections of 3 former layouts. I have almost anything that was prototypical from most Northeastern / New England railroads during the period 1920 through 1955 all in S Scale. This includes about 250 Northeastern and Kinsman kits, and kits from all the major manufacturers along with about 150 SHS products and about 100 PRS kits left, trucks, buildings and building kits, bridges built and in kit form, many Walthers kits, much flex track mostly code 100 and 125, and some code 83 rail. Some very rare stuff - 0ver 250 locomotives both brass wood and SSL&S kits and scratch built by many of S scales former master builders. about 55 cars built by Bill Boucher 10 by Jim Konas and others. Also many many detail parts. Easier for me to ask what you are looking for specifically than list what I actually have. Please contact me by Private email right here on I o groups s scale.Please realize it may take me some time to get back to you due to still working 5 days a week. I will reply but only have so many hours a week to do so. This is mostly all SCALE not much hi-rail. All AF is junky bodies for conversion to scale.
Thank you all
Bill Morris
?
Well apparently this method of my "shotgun" approach Is not working well since I have been inundated with emails all using the same subject header a reply to my post, and since most everyone wants to see what they are purchasing and request photos which I am terrible at doing BTW - looks like I need to do this differently. SO I will take photos of small?
"lots" of cars" and post the photos here in separate messages such as others have done. Looks like this will take years for me to complete doing.? I am amazed no one wants original Kinsman kits? especially the passenger cars or Ambroid snow plow kits.. SO OK I will now try the hard way for me to list all this stuff. Please if responding? Change the subject line for
your message to reflect what you want so I can find your message later on to reply to you.
?
ThankS
Bill Morris
?
?



Sn3 - the climb to Cumbres video

 


Re: Convention Holiday Inn

 

Bill,
I'm not sure where you are getting your misinformation, but please?stop broadcasting it without confirmation. I contacted the hotel this morning, and they confirmed that there are about 70 room?nights left at the convention rate. They also added a few for Tuesday without being asked, but thanks for wasting my time.?
Jamie

On Mon, Apr 7, 2025 at 8:39?PM Bill Lane via <bill=[email protected]> wrote:

I have heard this before but I just made my room reservations for the NASG Convention at the Holiday Inn. It was mentioned that there are only 2 rooms left in the reduced rate block.

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Maybe a call needs to be made to add more discounted rooms.

?

Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:

Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

?

See my layout progress at:



Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!?
?
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL

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Re: airslide decals

 

Thanks Jim


On Apr 7, 2025 at 7:02 PM, J. Kindraka via groups.io <kindrakaj@...> wrote:

John:
It should have been spelled out...? RPC - Railway Prototype Cyclopedia

Stunning volumes jammed with prototype history, construction and photos.? Topics reflected the author's interest and vast expertise.? Ed Hawkins remains a friend and my absolute "go-to" guy for ACF information...? They quit the series in 2017 but Pat Wider has since done two "special" volumes (#'s 35 & 36) on, among other things, '37 AAR boxcars - about 300 pages each!? I've attached an index FYI...
Jim Kindraka

On Mon, Apr 7, 2025 at 7:21?PM jjmannmmr via wrote:
I for one don't know what RPC is.


On Apr 3, 2025 at 1:43 PM, JGG KahnSr via wrote:

As I recall, there was at least one, likely more, article in RPC on Airslides.

JGGK


Re: airslide decals

 

Think I saw some RPC at the old Park Lane Hobby a long time ago.


On Apr 7, 2025 at 7:02 PM, J. Kindraka via groups.io <kindrakaj@...> wrote:

John:
It should have been spelled out...? RPC - Railway Prototype Cyclopedia

Stunning volumes jammed with prototype history, construction and photos.? Topics reflected the author's interest and vast expertise.? Ed Hawkins remains a friend and my absolute "go-to" guy for ACF information...? They quit the series in 2017 but Pat Wider has since done two "special" volumes (#'s 35 & 36) on, among other things, '37 AAR boxcars - about 300 pages each!? I've attached an index FYI...
Jim Kindraka

On Mon, Apr 7, 2025 at 7:21?PM jjmannmmr via wrote:
I for one don't know what RPC is.


On Apr 3, 2025 at 1:43 PM, JGG KahnSr via wrote:

As I recall, there was at least one, likely more, article in RPC on Airslides.

JGGK


Re: airslide decals

 

Thanks. Wonder if NASG has them


On Apr 7, 2025 at 9:24 PM, JGG KahnSr via groups.io <jacekahn@...> wrote:

In addition to #17, also #20 and #22, perhaps others.
Although no longer published by RPC per se, Ron's Books has since brought out some additional volumes.

JGGK



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of J. Kindraka via groups.io <kindrakaj@...>
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2025 8:01 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [S-Scale] airslide decals
?
John:
It should have been spelled out...? RPC - Railway Prototype Cyclopedia

Stunning volumes jammed with prototype history, construction and photos.? Topics reflected the author's interest and vast expertise.? Ed Hawkins remains a friend and my absolute "go-to" guy for ACF information...? They quit the series in 2017 but Pat Wider has since done two "special" volumes (#'s 35 & 36) on, among other things, '37 AAR boxcars - about 300 pages each!? I've attached an index FYI...
Jim Kindraka

On Mon, Apr 7, 2025 at 7:21?PM jjmannmmr via wrote:
I for one don't know what RPC is.


On Apr 3, 2025 at 1:43 PM, JGG KahnSr via wrote:

As I recall, there was at least one, likely more, article in RPC on Airslides.

JGGK


Re: airslide decals

 

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In addition to #17, also #20 and #22, perhaps others.
Although no longer published by RPC per se, Ron's Books has since brought out some additional volumes.

JGGK



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of J. Kindraka via groups.io <kindrakaj@...>
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2025 8:01 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [S-Scale] airslide decals
?
John:
It should have been spelled out...? RPC - Railway Prototype Cyclopedia

Stunning volumes jammed with prototype history, construction and photos.? Topics reflected the author's interest and vast expertise.? Ed Hawkins remains a friend and my absolute "go-to" guy for ACF information...? They quit the series in 2017 but Pat Wider has since done two "special" volumes (#'s 35 & 36) on, among other things, '37 AAR boxcars - about 300 pages each!? I've attached an index FYI...
Jim Kindraka

On Mon, Apr 7, 2025 at 7:21?PM jjmannmmr via wrote:
I for one don't know what RPC is.


On Apr 3, 2025 at 1:43 PM, JGG KahnSr via wrote:

As I recall, there was at least one, likely more, article in RPC on Airslides.

JGGK


Overland S-2

 

Hi folks, the S-2 has been sold.? Thank you to all that responded and to those that made some very nice comments.
Take care,
Bill


Convention Holiday Inn

 

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I have heard this before but I just made my room reservations for the NASG Convention at the Holiday Inn. It was mentioned that there are only 2 rooms left in the reduced rate block.

?

Maybe a call needs to be made to add more discounted rooms.

?

Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:

Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

?

See my layout progress at:



Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!?
?
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL

?


Re: airslide decals

 

John:
It should have been spelled out...? RPC - Railway Prototype Cyclopedia

Stunning volumes jammed with prototype history, construction and photos.? Topics reflected the author's interest and vast expertise.? Ed Hawkins remains a friend and my absolute "go-to" guy for ACF information...? They quit the series in 2017 but Pat Wider has since done two "special" volumes (#'s 35 & 36) on, among other things, '37 AAR boxcars - about 300 pages each!? I've attached an index FYI...
Jim Kindraka

On Mon, Apr 7, 2025 at 7:21?PM jjmannmmr via wrote:
I for one don't know what RPC is.


On Apr 3, 2025 at 1:43 PM, JGG KahnSr via wrote:

As I recall, there was at least one, likely more, article in RPC on Airslides.

JGGK
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Re: For Sale Overland Alco S-2

 

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FWIW: All those years ago when I was in scale S, I purchased a like new unpainted scale S OMI S-2. I paid $400.
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I say that to let you see that this is likely a very good price. I am surprised it's not double that price.
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Good luck in your sale, Bill!
?
Andre Ming
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bill McClung via groups.io <mcclungbj@...>
Subject: [S-Scale] For Sale Overland Alco S-2

Hi,
I have a Overland S-2, DC.
Custom painted Southern Pacific, Tiger Stripe #1351
Locomotive was on display for a number of years and has no run time on it except some test time.
Probably needs to be lubed.
Pictures on request, please email off list to?mcclungbj@...
$450.00 plus shipping.
Many thanks for looking.
Bill
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Re: airslide decals

 

I for one don't know what RPC is.


On Apr 3, 2025 at 1:43 PM, JGG KahnSr via groups.io <jacekahn@...> wrote:


As I recall, there was at least one, likely more, article in RPC on Airslides.

JGGK



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ken Zieska via groups.io <mhry19@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2025 1:12 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [S-Scale] airslide decals
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I have a couple of Airslides to finish.? One will be Milwaukee grey but I am looking for ideas for the other one.? John Mann showed a great Burlington scheme but said he used decals so the car data is not perfect.? I could pay to have that corrected but before I do that, I would like to see what else is around.? I have a couple extras of the BN and MN&S for the 4180 car if anyone is looking for that car.
--
Ken Zieska
1/64th Scale Modeler


Re: Yes, the builder’s plate # is correct.

 

Excessive smoke was always frowned on by railroad management - it wasted coal.? Short slogans to that effect were often stencilled on tender coal bunker doors.? That said, it was also pretty hard to control.? Some railroads decided to give their firemen the tools to work more efficiently - day or night.

The Missouri Pacific and Frisco (as well as the NP) experimented with and actually used lignite coal for firing some locomotives.? Lignite is low in BTU's, barely coal by some accounts, and higher in moisture than bituminous coal, making proper firing and keeping up a good head of steam a challenge.? I can see the stack lights being an essential part of those operations.? I just wouldn't want to be the guy called on to climb on top of the boiler to clean the damn thing! ??
Jim Kindraka
Grand Rapids, MI

On Mon, Apr 7, 2025 at 9:53?AM Mike Swederska wrote:
Hi Jace,
Don't tell that to the Frisco.


ms
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16


For Sale Overland Alco S-2

 

Hi,
I have a Overland S-2, DC.
Custom painted Southern Pacific, Tiger Stripe #1351
Locomotive was on display for a number of years and has no run time on it except some test time.
Probably needs to be lubed.
Pictures on request, please email off list to?mcclungbj@...
$450.00 plus shipping.
Many thanks for looking.
Bill


Re: Yes, the builder’s plate # is correct.

 

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Hi Jace,
Don't tell that to the Frisco.



ms


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of JGG KahnSr via groups.io <jacekahn@...>
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2025 12:52 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [S-Scale] Yes, the builder’s plate # is correct.
?
And the reason for that was presumably for oil-burners, so the fireman could see how the fuel delivery mix was working, not something needed for coal burners.

JGGK



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mike Swederska via groups.io <mikesscale@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2025 8:09 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [S-Scale] Yes, the builder’s plate # is correct.
?
It is also called a stack light. It is used the see the smoke color at night.?
Mike Swederska?

On Apr 6, 2025, at 5:50?PM, David R. Henley Jr via groups.io <henley31c@...> wrote:

?
Hello Mike,
? ? For those of us not in the know.? Can you tell us what a smoke light is and what function it does?? I have never noticed one on a steam locomotive before.
?
Regards,
David Henley

--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
https://www.youtube.com/@mikesscale3149

Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!

--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
https://www.youtube.com/@mikesscale3149

Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!


Re: Yes, the builder’s plate # is correct.

 

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And the reason for that was presumably for oil-burners, so the fireman could see how the fuel delivery mix was working, not something needed for coal burners.

JGGK



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mike Swederska via groups.io <mikesscale@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2025 8:09 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [S-Scale] Yes, the builder’s plate # is correct.
?
It is also called a stack light. It is used the see the smoke color at night.?
Mike Swederska?

On Apr 6, 2025, at 5:50?PM, David R. Henley Jr via groups.io <henley31c@...> wrote:

?
Hello Mike,
? ? For those of us not in the know.? Can you tell us what a smoke light is and what function it does?? I have never noticed one on a steam locomotive before.
?
Regards,
David Henley

--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
https://www.youtube.com/@mikesscale3149

Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!