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Re: Last weekend's train show!

 

On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 06:37 PM, Bob Werre wrote:
sometimes a little bit of sunshine helps the situation.
Bob......Here is some more "sunshine".? SoundTraxx makes a sound decoder for the UP turbine.? I hear it is quite amazing since the A unit and B unit have totally different prime power sources which cut in/out at different speeds.? Perhaps it will make you happy just listening to it?? Good luck.........Ed L.
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Ed Loizeaux
Los Altos, CA


Last weekend's train show!

 

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I might have mentioned that I ran my RR Gas turbine at last weekends train show.? I don't like moving it, as it's three units so things 'happen' and it did!? I arrived home missing one of the main kingpin screws.? Of course, it could have fallen out at home, or worked loose while running.? Nevertheless, it's gone and spare parts are beyond iffy I can assume?

But sometimes a little bit of sunshine helps the situation.? One of the guests asked me about the turbine as he admired it.? So I spent some time with the gentlemen.? He asked if I'd be interested in a operator's manual for the turbine.? He indicated he just wanted to give it to someone who might appreciate it.? It arrived today, so now I know procedures to began cranking it up!

Unfortunately nothing was said about getting the model to run!? It sure is interesting in all the different folks at these shows!


Bob Werre

PhotoTraxx



Re: Looking for a source for EMD fans

 

Put a couple of pods below the footpath and it's a ringer for a Star Trek shuttle Jamie!?!
Tommy

On Fri, Feb 21, 2025, 2:36?PM Jamie Bothwell via <jamie.bothwell610=[email protected]> wrote:
Gosh. Just when you thought those things couldn't get any uglier...
Jamie Bothwell
Who is generally ok with the New Haven in
Bethlehem, PA

On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 3:10?PM Stan Stokrocki via <sscalerr=[email protected]> wrote:
Steve: after you've completed the FL9...
Stan Stokrocki


Re: Looking for a source for EMD fans

 

I know Jamie doesn’t like it but I do like the nod to the green and gold!

Stephen J Kutash
203 906-5116 (Cell)


On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 3:10?PM Stan Stokrocki via <sscalerr=[email protected]> wrote:
Steve: after you've completed the FL9...
Stan Stokrocki


Re: Looking for a source for EMD fans

 

Hey, the green with gold is classic! At least it isn't McGinnis.

Pieter Roos

On Friday, February 21, 2025 at 03:36:01 PM EST, Jamie Bothwell via groups.io <jamie.bothwell610@...> wrote:


Gosh. Just when you thought those things couldn't get any uglier...
Jamie Bothwell
Who is generally ok with the New Haven in
Bethlehem, PA

On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 3:10?PM Stan Stokrocki via <sscalerr=[email protected]> wrote:
Steve: after you've completed the FL9...
Stan Stokrocki


Re: Looking for a source for EMD fans

 

Gosh. Just when you thought those things couldn't get any uglier...
Jamie Bothwell
Who is generally ok with the New Haven in
Bethlehem, PA

On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 3:10?PM Stan Stokrocki via <sscalerr=[email protected]> wrote:
Steve: after you've completed the FL9...
Stan Stokrocki


Re: Looking for a source for EMD fans

 

Steve: after you've completed the FL9...
Stan Stokrocki


Re: Mixed Train Operations

 

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Charles,? The ATSF society guy you've quoted is a great friend of mine and probably the closest RR neighbor of mine.? I've operated a time or two on his layout, so I've set out a combine at the edge of town while switching the industries.? Steve? is a retired 'man of the cloth' too!? He's helped me do some wiring on the underground, but I also note that he now wears wrist supports too!? He also traveled, interviewed and gathered images on the Santa Fe's stock operations--a well done book!

A much older graphic artist that I've known for 30 years gave me a collection of RR negatives and prints he bought over the years that he used as examples for his artwork.? We sorted out all the items so the ATSF museum in Temple, Tx has those images, a MoPac member has another major grouping too.?

Bob Werre

On 2/21/25 7:58 AM, Charles Weston wrote:

On the Santa Fe, passenger cars used in mixed train service were (mostly) painted mineral brown.




Here is a little bit about mixed train operations in the 1960s and 1970s:




Charles Weston



Re: Mixed Train Operations

 

On the Santa Fe, passenger cars used in mixed train service were (mostly) painted mineral brown.




Here is a little bit about mixed train operations in the 1960s and 1970s:




Charles Weston



On Thursday, February 20, 2025, 03:34:26 PM CST, Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:


My hometown was served by two daily mixed trains with those famous Milw Rd. Branchline combines.? Unfortunately I was way too young to remember much but I do recall it heading out of town thru the weeds, I was disappointed that that orange car didn't have a cupola nor did it look like the typical AF Reading version. ? I think both trains met at the depot to exchange consists and perhaps the rare passenger.? I think the only time- sensitive thing was the mail sacks,? my aunt was a clerk who seemed to often mention that the train was late...again.? Later on my step father, who was the postmaster had similar issues, so he started to make a fuss about the poor rail service.?

Despite generally being a non-critical process much of the time, the local farmers? complained the most.? Once the train was late and was carrying several crates of baby chicks on the Saturday run.? John, my father knew that they'd all be dead by Monday, and the Rural Route driver had already left on his route, so he loaded the car with the chicks and 'ubbered' them to the farm.?

I had intentions if scratch building one of the combines as River Raisin brought in trucks for them as they used the same trucks as their? cabooses.? I also have some great plans and photos from Loyd Kaiser, who has authored several books, but mostly the CNW.? Southwind also had a short Harrimann combine in the plans too, but the earlier NYC combines were hard to sell, so those didn't happen!? The UP had a few that ran in Nebraska and Eastern Colorado.? I would be happy with one of those too!?

Bob Werre


We ran a mixed train that I made up, based on an article by Ed Loizeaux, in MR, I think, several years ago. #4N/5S was a first-class train that ran from Louisville to Chicago and back. The consist was mostly milk reefers with some other reefers. There was a combine on the end for passengers and baggage/freight. There were cars switched at foreign road interchanges along the route. Attached is the late Chuck Ricketts working #5S at Gosport, Ind.

Roger Nulton

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brooks Stover via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 8:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [S-Scale] Mixed Train Operations

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Mike S's recent post about mixed trains hit home with me.? For the first 50+ years of its existence, the BC&G ran only mixed trains.? A coach tacked on the end of the string of 50+ coal cars served both passengers and as caboose for the crews.? That must have been some ride!? ?The BC&G got their first 'legitimate' caboose in 1958 ending the mixed train service.? I model 1964 on my layout but have used modeler's license recently to reintroduce mixed service.

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The first photo is the thrice-weekly mixed train pulling away from the B&O station.? The second photo shows that at Swandale the coach is spotted out of the way at the far end of town at the two-story boarding house which doubles as a station.? I've recently added the small freight dock to the right of the coach for unloading small freight parcels.? The third photo shows the train departing for the return trip to Dundon running tender first as the prototype did in 1964.

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To add interest to the mixed operations, I always come to a full stop just short of coupling the coach.? 'Gotta be mindful of the passengers' comfort.

?

The fourth photo is one of the few color images of one of the two BC&G coaches in mixed service.? It was taken by David Marquis, a model railroader, in 1955.? The BC&G's two coaches, #16 and #17, were ex-PRR cars purchased by the BC&G in 1949 for $1500 each.? I've represented both cars by modifying AM combines, sectioning them and adding porthole windows.

?

'Anybody else run mixed trains?

?

Brooks Stover



Re: Mixed Train Operations

 

Maybe this fits the category on a technicality. It was a switching move back in the day.
Stan Stokrocki


Re: Mixed Train Operations

 

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My hometown was served by two daily mixed trains with those famous Milw Rd. Branchline combines.? Unfortunately I was way too young to remember much but I do recall it heading out of town thru the weeds, I was disappointed that that orange car didn't have a cupola nor did it look like the typical AF Reading version. ? I think both trains met at the depot to exchange consists and perhaps the rare passenger.? I think the only time- sensitive thing was the mail sacks,? my aunt was a clerk who seemed to often mention that the train was late...again.? Later on my step father, who was the postmaster had similar issues, so he started to make a fuss about the poor rail service.?

Despite generally being a non-critical process much of the time, the local farmers? complained the most.? Once the train was late and was carrying several crates of baby chicks on the Saturday run.? John, my father knew that they'd all be dead by Monday, and the Rural Route driver had already left on his route, so he loaded the car with the chicks and 'ubbered' them to the farm.?

I had intentions if scratch building one of the combines as River Raisin brought in trucks for them as they used the same trucks as their? cabooses.? I also have some great plans and photos from Loyd Kaiser, who has authored several books, but mostly the CNW.? Southwind also had a short Harrimann combine in the plans too, but the earlier NYC combines were hard to sell, so those didn't happen!? The UP had a few that ran in Nebraska and Eastern Colorado.? I would be happy with one of those too!?

Bob Werre


We ran a mixed train that I made up, based on an article by Ed Loizeaux, in MR, I think, several years ago. #4N/5S was a first-class train that ran from Louisville to Chicago and back. The consist was mostly milk reefers with some other reefers. There was a combine on the end for passengers and baggage/freight. There were cars switched at foreign road interchanges along the route. Attached is the late Chuck Ricketts working #5S at Gosport, Ind.

Roger Nulton

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brooks Stover via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 8:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [S-Scale] Mixed Train Operations

?

Mike S's recent post about mixed trains hit home with me.? For the first 50+ years of its existence, the BC&G ran only mixed trains.? A coach tacked on the end of the string of 50+ coal cars served both passengers and as caboose for the crews.? That must have been some ride!? ?The BC&G got their first 'legitimate' caboose in 1958 ending the mixed train service.? I model 1964 on my layout but have used modeler's license recently to reintroduce mixed service.

?

The first photo is the thrice-weekly mixed train pulling away from the B&O station.? The second photo shows that at Swandale the coach is spotted out of the way at the far end of town at the two-story boarding house which doubles as a station.? I've recently added the small freight dock to the right of the coach for unloading small freight parcels.? The third photo shows the train departing for the return trip to Dundon running tender first as the prototype did in 1964.

?

To add interest to the mixed operations, I always come to a full stop just short of coupling the coach.? 'Gotta be mindful of the passengers' comfort.

?

The fourth photo is one of the few color images of one of the two BC&G coaches in mixed service.? It was taken by David Marquis, a model railroader, in 1955.? The BC&G's two coaches, #16 and #17, were ex-PRR cars purchased by the BC&G in 1949 for $1500 each.? I've represented both cars by modifying AM combines, sectioning them and adding porthole windows.

?

'Anybody else run mixed trains?

?

Brooks Stover



Re: John's Turnouts/Switches

 

John,

John (Scott) Wicham? does not have a website as far as I know, you need to reply directly to his posted email? ?

Ed Sauers

On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:14?PM John Hutnick via <johnhutnick=[email protected]> wrote:
What is the site for these turnouts please?


Re: John's Turnouts/Switches

 

I purchased some switches from John and they are excellent.

Charles Weston

On Thursday, February 20, 2025, 09:08:19 AM CST, John via groups.io <scottw90@...> wrote:


I don't have a business I just make some extras now and again.? Unless someone asks me to make some items.? I do most of the Fast Tracks stuff in code 70, 83 and 100.? I have most of the jigs: Turnouts, 4, 4.5, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 10 and i do double slips, three ways.
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Thanks,
?
John


Re: John's Turnouts/Switches

 

I don't have a business I just make some extras now and again.? Unless someone asks me to make some items.? I do most of the Fast Tracks stuff in code 70, 83 and 100.? I have most of the jigs: Turnouts, 4, 4.5, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 10 and i do double slips, three ways.
?
Thanks,
?
John


Re: Mixed Train Operations

 

I think I recall Ed's article on reefer trains.? ?That looks like a fun assignment to have on your railroad.? What a beautiful fall day to be out railroading!? Who doesn't love that covered depot?!
Brooks Stover


Re: Decoders for S?

 

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Hi Everyone,

If you're starting out with nothing, then it's the perfect time to look at everything.?

I'll throw Ring Engineering's RailPro into the mix. I did a LOT of research into the best method for myself and settled on RailPro for its simplicity and nice controller. It can do everything that DCC does functionally, but there's no "programming" or having to learn JMRI etc, since everything is done on the screen of the handheld controller. Even if you've already set up your layout wiring for DCC you can still use RailPro because all you need is power to the track. The beautiful part about RailPro is you can take your locomotives and controller to any layout that has track power, and you can simply put it on the tracks and start running because RailPro only needs power since the decoder talks directly to the controller via radio control and not via the rails themselves like DCC. All "programming" is done on the controller screen and is very self-explanatory (no programming knowledge necessary) and you can make small adjustments at any time, hit the save button and start running trains again.?

As far as mounting electronics in the locomotive I found one thing to be careful about. If you are going to have trains running nonstop such as a passenger or freight train in a loop, motors, when running, get hot. Absolutely do NOT install your decoder on top of the motor because as the motor gets hot from running it will transfer that heat to your decoder and will shut it down due to the heat. This is only a concern if you are constantly running a particular locomotive nonstop for long?periods of time. If you're just doing switching etc in a yard or only making short trips with a locomotive for a couple minutes, then mounting on the motor with double sided tape is not a big deal as the motor will never heat up enough.?

Cheers,
Jeff J
Michigan


Re: Mixed Train Operations

 

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We ran a mixed train that I made up, based on an article by Ed Loizeaux, in MR, I think, several years ago. #4N/5S was a first-class train that ran from Louisville to Chicago and back. The consist was mostly milk reefers with some other reefers. There was a combine on the end for passengers and baggage/freight. There were cars switched at foreign road interchanges along the route. Attached is the late Chuck Ricketts working #5S at Gosport, Ind.

Roger Nulton

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brooks Stover via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 8:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [S-Scale] Mixed Train Operations

?

Mike S's recent post about mixed trains hit home with me.? For the first 50+ years of its existence, the BC&G ran only mixed trains.? A coach tacked on the end of the string of 50+ coal cars served both passengers and as caboose for the crews.? That must have been some ride!? ?The BC&G got their first 'legitimate' caboose in 1958 ending the mixed train service.? I model 1964 on my layout but have used modeler's license recently to reintroduce mixed service.

?

The first photo is the thrice-weekly mixed train pulling away from the B&O station.? The second photo shows that at Swandale the coach is spotted out of the way at the far end of town at the two-story boarding house which doubles as a station.? I've recently added the small freight dock to the right of the coach for unloading small freight parcels.? The third photo shows the train departing for the return trip to Dundon running tender first as the prototype did in 1964.

?

To add interest to the mixed operations, I always come to a full stop just short of coupling the coach.? 'Gotta be mindful of the passengers' comfort.

?

The fourth photo is one of the few color images of one of the two BC&G coaches in mixed service.? It was taken by David Marquis, a model railroader, in 1955.? The BC&G's two coaches, #16 and #17, were ex-PRR cars purchased by the BC&G in 1949 for $1500 each.? I've represented both cars by modifying AM combines, sectioning them and adding porthole windows.

?

'Anybody else run mixed trains?

?

Brooks Stover


Re: John's Turnouts/Switches

 

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Andrew,
There is another path.?
Turnouts are available from Empire Trackworks (empiretrackworks.com) at quite reasonable prices.? They have been shipping product for about a year (+/-).? They have a nice catalog of S turnouts.?

In case you missed one of Shane's comments, Micro Engineering is in the process of buying Tomalco Track.? As in all business-to-business product ownership transfers, "Lawyers", "Accountants", and "Logistics" take time.? Anticipated availability of Code 100 S- scale flex track from Micro Engineering is "July", this year.? Look for Micro Engineering on youtube for their public statements.?

--Dave McBrayer
Auburn, CA
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On 02/19/2025 7:49 PM, Andrew Parker via groups.io wrote:

Turnouts makes me think of track.? Track makes me think of Tomalco. Tomalco makes me think of Shane Lambert.? ?Shane Lambert makes me think of the Erie Lackawana GP 35 that I think I purchased from him.? ????

Andrew Parker

On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 06:14:28 PM PST, John Hutnick via groups.io <johnhutnick@...> wrote:


What is the site for these turnouts please?


--
Dave McBrayer
Auburn, CA?


Re: Decoders for S?

 

I haven't done as many as Bill Lane, but I have done about 40 DCC installations into S locos.? Tsunami 2 - 2200 series has become my decoder of choice (plus the CurrentKeeper).? Great sound and the 2200's give far more volume than the one-amp decoders.? However, when I want to include a smoke unit or control an existing smoke unit in the AF U boats, SD70ac's or E44ac's, I use the TCS 501's.? Here's a video on how I do my installations of Tsunami 2200's in American Models diesels....https://youtu.be/3dEXesqkUEw?si=16MOC6AwMOnK36LI
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Re: John's Turnouts/Switches

 

John Wickham:
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Roger Nulton