Re: S Scale switching layout plan

#176455

I think many people create switching layouts primarily from space considerations.? As such I think many can be seen as shortline railroads with the distance removed.? I think this describes the famous Gumstump and Snowshoe.? ?The parallel tracks you describe could be seen as modeling a small classification yard with team or interchange tracks

Re: Paint for airbrushing

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Re: Paint for airbrushing

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Bill...

I'm with you on this.? I also had to resort to TruColor after the demise of Scalecoat, but have the same?issues with masking TruColor. I find the masking?problem to be even worse on?resin (SMMW) castings no matter what I use for a primer or how long I bake it.? I've also tried various masking tapes, all with the same result.? Very frustrating!? Also,TruColor requires significant thinning, per your comment, for good airbrushing.

Bob Hogan

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On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 8:14?AM Rich Gajnak via <rustytraque=[email protected]> wrote:

I don't have any masking problems with TruColor on plastic or Zamack.

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Rich G(ajnak)

Re: Paint for airbrushing

#176452

I don't have any masking problems with TruColor on plastic or Zamack.

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Rich G(ajnak)

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Re: Paint for airbrushing

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MRH Acrylic paint guide
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Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
Sn42 and Mn42 in 1923
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On 15March2025, at 10:22, SDL39FAN via groups.io <sdl39fan@...> wrote:

I am looking for feedback on water based paint that can be used with a basic air brush.  If there are spray paint options I am open to that as well.   

Re: 3/16

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Hey

I forget about this anniversary until it happens each year!!

Roger Haag

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On Mar 15, 2025, at 9:27?PM, Thomas Stoltz <tstoltz@...> wrote:

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Happy St Gilbert's Day everyone!

Tom Stoltz

in Maine

3/16

#176449

Happy St Gilbert's Day everyone!

Tom Stoltz

in Maine

Re: Paint for airbrushing

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Tru Color is most accessible for me since Scalecoat ended. I have figured it out and get good results. But it SUCKS if you have to mask it for another color. Pretty much any tape pulls paint off at least on brass that has been blasted. I have not tried masking and painting on plastic, urethane or 3D printing resin.

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This car was painted with Tru Color. It went on well.

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You have to cut it a lot more then want is on the label for airbrushing.

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Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:

Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

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See my layout progress at:

Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!??
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL

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Re: New ACF Twin Covered Hopper Kit?

#176447

David?

what did the MP use them for?

I ask because many were used for cement service, for which they would have been used on home rails or not far from them, due to the cement typically being a local commodity, not shipped far.??

I am interested in shipments that would have been of higher value than cement.?

Ted Larson

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Ted Larson
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GN in 1965

Re: S Scale switching layout plan

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Before deciding on a switching layout plan I suggest that there are some questions to be first asked; especially:

- Big city vs small town, or something in between

- What part of the country;? ?My observation is that most switching layout plans don't resemble real situations that I commonly see; namely tracks to be switched are laid out parallel to the mainline, vs most switching layouts the tracks run off at odd angles from the mainline; maybe this is common in some parts of the country???? Certainly does not resemble central USA.? ?

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Ted Larson
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GN in 1965

Re: Seeking AM plug door photo

#176445

I have seen several replies regarding the Jersey Central plug door;

These are the ones that I seek photos of;

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2503 ? New York Central (NYC)

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also? ? 2207? ?WP? ?

https://www.nasg.org/Gallery/reports/scale/cars/rr/indexWestern_Pacific_(WP)Refrigerator_Car,_Insulated.php

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tnx

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Ted Larson
trainweb.org/mhrr/??????? --------??????? NASG.org??????? --------???????
GN in 1965

Re: Granite plate

#176444

Agree.? That should be fine even for a lot of machining work.? Using granite cutoffs, especially sink cutouts, is certainly mentioned in amateur machining circles.

Granite cutting boards and pastry boards (kitchen items) are another alternative.

Actual small surface plates can be purchased surprisingly inexpensively (probably from China) and have a guaranteed (supposedly) flatness.? But your sample piece is really at a good price point.

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Saturday, March 15, 2025 at 12:33:04 PM PDT, JGG KahnSr via groups.io <jacekahn@...> wrote:

Should work fine for modeling, same with plate glass; no real need for a machinist surface plate.

Every serious modeler should have a surface plate (even if such a makeshift one) and surface gage.

Jace Kahn

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of robf06 via groups.io <robf06@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2025 1:45 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [S-Scale] Granite plate

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I've been looking for a granite plate for laying out work for a while. My wife and I stopped in to a kitchen supply showroom for some countertop samples so I asked them if they sold any of the odds and ends that may be left over. They said that they have discontinued samples that I could have! So I grabbed this 10"x10" piece. Not suitable for a machine shop but just fine for me!

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Rob Fuhst
Grand Haven, MI

American Hi Rail

#176443

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Were sideframes made for the American Hi Rail Dash8-40CW? If yes does anyone have some that could be for sale? Worst case is I could get 1 and copy cast it.

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Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:

Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

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See my layout progress at:

Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!??
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL

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Re: For Sale SMMW GE 70 Ton

#176442

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I already have my pair of SMMW 70T kits (albeit from the first run with modified Athearn drive), so I am not a potential customer for more, but I'd say this was a good price, particularly with the pair of Stantons.

I can't think of any prototype 70-tonners used in Minnesota; closest might have been the FtDDM&S or SCT?? I have the owners manual for one of the SCT units.

Jace Kahn

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of SDL39FAN via groups.io <sdl39fan@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2025 12:51 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [S-Scale] For Sale SMMW GE 70 Ton

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Hello all,

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I have for sale a Smoky Mountain Model Works GE - 70 Ton kit.? ?It is?Kit No. 64-DSL-13 ... 70-tonner "A" body (no front grill, round headlights).?

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New in Box and all parts are still in sealed bags.?

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This kit include 1-piece urethane body, 1-piece urethane underframe, urethane details & truck side frames, clear-cast urethane window inserts, couplers, Phosphor Bronze wire, brass tubing, (2) brass bars (weight), a pair of drop-in NWSL/Stanton trucks, detailed kit instructions on a Mini-CD and separate NWSL instructions for DCC wiring. ?(Trucks are ready-to-run in DC and pre-wired for DCC -- follow NWSL's instructions to install decoder and speakers.)

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I am asking for $300.? Shipping charge based on your zip.? ?I accept Paypal (Goods and Services), money order, cashier check, or personal?
check (I ship after it clears).??

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If any questions contact me off list.

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Thanks

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Michael Osweiler

Waseca, MN

Re: Granite plate

#176441

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Should work fine for modeling, same with plate glass; no real need for a machinist surface plate.

Every serious modeler should have a surface plate (even if such a makeshift one) and surface gage.

Jace Kahn

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of robf06 via groups.io <robf06@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2025 1:45 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [S-Scale] Granite plate

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I've been looking for a granite plate for laying out work for a while. My wife and I stopped in to a kitchen supply showroom for some countertop samples so I asked them if they sold any of the odds and ends that may be left over. They said that they have discontinued samples that I could have! So I grabbed this 10"x10" piece. Not suitable for a machine shop but just fine for me!

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Rob Fuhst
Grand Haven, MI

Re: Paint for airbrushing

#176440

While not railroad specific, I have had good luck with . ?They have several colors that work for boxcar reds, such as MMP-014 Red Oxide and MMP-015 Rotbraun. Their MMP-014 Panzergrey is a great replacement for Floquil Grimy Black.

Charles Weston

On Saturday, March 15, 2025, 12:22:46 PM CDT, SDL39FAN via groups.io <sdl39fan@...> wrote:

Hello all,?

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I have quite a few 3D Central cars to paint and I have not used an airbrush in 20+ years.? I know that certain brands have gone out of business and one was what I used for airbrushing back in the early 80's.? ?I want to stay away from non-water based paint. I cleaned out enough paint jars with my finger wrapped with a paper towel and soaked in Dio-Sol.? No wonder I get headaches around people with strong perfume.

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I am looking for feedback on water based paint that can be used with a basic air brush.? If there are spray paint options I am open to that as well.? ?

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Thanks

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Michael Osweiler

Waseca, MN

Re: Paint for airbrushing

#176439

You are probably going to get a lot of opinions, and it seems most brands and most methods of thinning, and most air brush needle sizes seem to work fine for somebody, and such and such air pressure is best, etc.

I suggest picking a brand that has a color selection you really like and start experimenting.

One thing that I really DO suggest is to use a commercial thinner.? Not just distilled water as recommended by some.? And not with any alcohol for thinning (there is a risk of spotting).? Of course, this or that person will swear by distilled water and/or adding a little rubbing alcohol.? Commercial thinners tend to have other things (same goes for VOC thinner) that help with drying time and such.? It seems that the Tamiya Acrylic X-20A Thinner has good comments out there.

My personal experience with water-based paints has been one of annoyance.? I found it to be too much trouble to prevent sputtering and such.? Perhaps I didn't try hard enough.? I very much prefer VOC paint (I like Tru-Color paints) but I have a good spray booth.

So, on this list, and/or other searching, you are not likely to find "this is definitely the one and only best way."? I suggest spending some time on research, but not a lot, and instead spend time on practice painting some old disposable cars or building sides or something.

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Saturday, March 15, 2025 at 10:22:47 AM PDT, SDL39FAN via groups.io <sdl39fan@...> wrote:

Hello all,?

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I have quite a few 3D Central cars to paint and I have not used an airbrush in 20+ years.? I know that certain brands have gone out of business and one was what I used for airbrushing back in the early 80's.? ?I want to stay away from non-water based paint. I cleaned out enough paint jars with my finger wrapped with a paper towel and soaked in Dio-Sol.? No wonder I get headaches around people with strong perfume.

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I am looking for feedback on water based paint that can be used with a basic air brush.? If there are spray paint options I am open to that as well.? ?

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Thanks

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Michael Osweiler

Waseca, MN

Re: Paint for airbrushing

#176438

I have been using mission models paints and have been happy with those.

Re: Paint for airbrushing

#176437

If I can find it, I'll forward you an email on the topic I got from Mike Swederska. His work is on the cover of the current issue of the Dispatch.
Former auto body shop owner, and only uses water based paint.
Tommy

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On Sat, Mar 15, 2025, 12:22?PM SDL39FAN via <sdl39fan=[email protected]> wrote:

Hello all,?

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I have quite a few 3D Central cars to paint and I have not used an airbrush in 20+ years.? I know that certain brands have gone out of business and one was what I used for airbrushing back in the early 80's.? ?I want to stay away from non-water based paint. I cleaned out enough paint jars with my finger wrapped with a paper towel and soaked in Dio-Sol.? No wonder I get headaches around people with strong perfume.

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I am looking for feedback on water based paint that can be used with a basic air brush.? If there are spray paint options I am open to that as well.? ?

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Thanks

?

Michael Osweiler

Waseca, MN

Granite plate

#176436

I've been looking for a granite plate for laying out work for a while. My wife and I stopped in to a kitchen supply showroom for some countertop samples so I asked them if they sold any of the odds and ends that may be left over. They said that they have discontinued samples that I could have! So I grabbed this 10"x10" piece. Not suitable for a machine shop but just fine for me!

--

Rob Fuhst
Grand Haven, MI