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Re: I have a working ma 988 racal loudspeaker

 

Sorry, Jimmy, I should have noted that you'd said 50
ohms. Any ideas, anyone?

You've given us a new Racal model number, thouh.
Anyone know what the MA4988 is for?

Bob
--- repairmantoo <repairmantoo@...> wrote:
the problem I have been having is finding a 50 ohm
speaker here in
the US , I have look all over the place . I will try
to upload the
speaker plans to this web site later , I have a
MA-4988 speaker and
I have no ideal what that fits , The audio plug
looks like my plug
but it willnt fit and the pin wiring is really
strange too , it pull
over 2 amp which is too much for the prm 4031. the
ma 988 has a pull
of just .2 amp just right for the battery pack and
when I use the
PTT the audio is shutoff so there is no feedback, by
using a
grounded pin on the audio that has power 8.50 volts
until the PTT is
used and is grounded to a zero voltage state--- In
Racal-
manpacks@..., Bob Sayers
<bobsayers2000@y...> wrote:
Hi, Jimmy,

Glad to hear that you're having some success! What
are
the details of that speaker? Presumably they have
waterproof mylar cones? Here in the UK, Maplin
Electronics list a number of speakers with mylar
cones
in various sizes, all (from memory) with square
frames
and a fixing hole in each corner.

regards,


Bob
--- repairmantoo <repairmantoo@y...> wrote:
I have a working ma 988 racal loudspeaker I use
it
on my prm 4031
works great, I need a extra one for spare parts
mostly for a 2nd one
I am working on .I need the 50 ohm speaker
mostly,
please reply if
you have one. I have the board and wiring on
paper
if anyone need
this for a project , could save some time as I
never
could find a
wiring diagram of the ma 988.
jimmy





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Re: I have a working ma 988 racal loudspeaker

repairmantoo
 

the problem I have been having is finding a 50 ohm speaker here in
the US , I have look all over the place . I will try to upload the
speaker plans to this web site later , I have a MA-4988 speaker and
I have no ideal what that fits , The audio plug looks like my plug
but it willnt fit and the pin wiring is really strange too , it pull
over 2 amp which is too much for the prm 4031. the ma 988 has a pull
of just .2 amp just right for the battery pack and when I use the
PTT the audio is shutoff so there is no feedback, by using a
grounded pin on the audio that has power 8.50 volts until the PTT is
used and is grounded to a zero voltage state--- In Racal-
manpacks@..., Bob Sayers <bobsayers2000@y...> wrote:

Hi, Jimmy,

Glad to hear that you're having some success! What are
the details of that speaker? Presumably they have
waterproof mylar cones? Here in the UK, Maplin
Electronics list a number of speakers with mylar cones
in various sizes, all (from memory) with square frames
and a fixing hole in each corner.

regards,


Bob
--- repairmantoo <repairmantoo@y...> wrote:
I have a working ma 988 racal loudspeaker I use it
on my prm 4031
works great, I need a extra one for spare parts
mostly for a 2nd one
I am working on .I need the 50 ohm speaker mostly,
please reply if
you have one. I have the board and wiring on paper
if anyone need
this for a project , could save some time as I never
could find a
wiring diagram of the ma 988.
jimmy





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Re: I have a working ma 988 racal loudspeaker

 

Hi, Jimmy,

Glad to hear that you're having some success! What are
the details of that speaker? Presumably they have
waterproof mylar cones? Here in the UK, Maplin
Electronics list a number of speakers with mylar cones
in various sizes, all (from memory) with square frames
and a fixing hole in each corner.

regards,


Bob
--- repairmantoo <repairmantoo@...> wrote:
I have a working ma 988 racal loudspeaker I use it
on my prm 4031
works great, I need a extra one for spare parts
mostly for a 2nd one
I am working on .I need the 50 ohm speaker mostly,
please reply if
you have one. I have the board and wiring on paper
if anyone need
this for a project , could save some time as I never
could find a
wiring diagram of the ma 988.
jimmy





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prm 4031 racal service book

repairmantoo
 

I have a racal prm 4031 service book on arobat reader , it took me a
long time many many nights to copy this and place it into a arobat
file over 300 pages with wiring diagrams, If I could find a place to
upload this I would like to let anyone have it for free, now you
cant beat that deal, but just keep me in mind if anyone who
downloads this likes it a little money is fine but it is not really
that important if they have money problems and need the book, email
only armygear@...


I have a working ma 988 racal loudspeaker

repairmantoo
 

I have a working ma 988 racal loudspeaker I use it on my prm 4031
works great, I need a extra one for spare parts mostly for a 2nd one
I am working on .I need the 50 ohm speaker mostly, please reply if
you have one. I have the board and wiring on paper if anyone need
this for a project , could save some time as I never could find a
wiring diagram of the ma 988. just gave up after months of looking
and with replys from people wanting fees for looking for something
they didnt have got to be a really bad nightmare so I made my own
diagram of the ma 988 speaker. Seem like there are a lot of people
out there making money and over charging us in our hobby, any
contacts please use armygear@... thanks jimmy


Re: New group members

 

Thanks, Howard, I think I may change to it those
settings for a while, as it obviously encourages new
members by them feeling they can join immediately, but
on the other hand most postings to the group would be
unlikely to be "urgent", and so wouldn't cause offence
if there was a slight delay in them appearing.

best regards,


Bob

--- Howard Small <howard@...> wrote:
Hi Bob,

Thanks for the group. An alternative is to allow
anyone to join
(automated applications are prevented by the yahoo
procedure
requiring a graphic to be read and entered as text)
but require posts to
be moderated. After a members first (or whatever)
post you change
their settings to allow unmoderated posting. I use
that procedure on
clansman/larkspur group and it seems to solve the
spam problem.

Howard, VK3DLH

I think you'll all agree that it's worth keeping
the membership
approval system in place. It isn't a certian
guarantee against
spamming, but at least it stops those individuals
who join groups and
then immediately start spamming.




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New member

spectreman51
 

Hi Bob and the group.

My name is Chris Lumsden & I live in Sydney, Australia.
I have been collecting military radios for several years.
The Racal sets I have are the BCC39B, PRC-349, PRM-4720, Jaguar V
variant, and two MEROD terminals.
I like the Racal gear very much. Well built & work very well.

The other UK set I have is the MEL PRC-319 HF manpack.

Bob, sorry but I dont wish to sell one of my MEROD terminals.
The whole point of me having two is to use them together.
I do have my ham license, so yes we could try having a MEROD contact
on HF. That would be fun !

I will also be soon getting a Plessey terminal, the same as you have.
Does the terminal transmit standard ASCII ? It says this in the
Janes book I have. I hope it does !

Cheers, Chris
VK3ZDX


Re: New group members

 

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the group. An alternative is to allow anyone to join
(automated applications are prevented by the yahoo procedure
requiring a graphic to be read and entered as text) but require posts to
be moderated. After a members first (or whatever) post you change
their settings to allow unmoderated posting. I use that procedure on
clansman/larkspur group and it seems to solve the spam problem.

Howard, VK3DLH

I think you'll all agree that it's worth keeping the membership
approval system in place. It isn't a certian guarantee against
spamming, but at least it stops those individuals who join groups and
then immediately start spamming.


Mystery Racal item

 

Hi, All,

Thanks to Tom and Alan, we've managed to identify the strange TRA967-
based portable radio.

It's apparently called a PRM.4067B

As far as I'm concerned, it's this sort of response that makes this
group all worthwhile!


best regards,



Bob


New group members

 

Hi to all those of you who have just joined this group!

To all of you, I've just noticed that any of the optional "comments"
which you made when you applied to join the group aren't
automatically forwarded as a message when your application is
approved.

Quite a few of your comments are very relevant (specific interests,
items that you are looking for, etc) so please feel free to re-send
these to the group as a normal message.

I think you'll all agree that it's worth keeping the membership
approval system in place. It isn't a certian guarantee against
spamming, but at least it stops those individuals who join groups and
then immediately start spamming. At present, I can normally approve
applications within a matter of hours.

best regards,


bob


photos of Racal manpacks

John Cook
 

Hi Folks,
Living in the US, we don't see many racal manpacks, I'm proud to
own and operate daily a BCC-39B but I'm still learning about many
racal Radios that I have not had a chance to see. Some of them have
very little on the internet about them.I would appreciate it very
much if some of you would post photos to the group photo album of
your radios so I could see what they look like.

Cheers,
John
K6ERO


Re: New Member and also a cry for help.

John Cook
 

Hi Stijn,
I also have a BCC-39B, I really like the radio, excellent
reciever ,it sure puts out a good clean signal,I'm am going to buy
the VRQ-319 vehicular adapter from Mike at Combat radio soon to
install in my M151A2 jeep,or I might buy a Series III Landrover a
friend has for sale just to put radios in :-)
I had a long chat with Mike at CR today, he has been searching for
some time for the complete manual set for the BCC-39B and has as yet
had no luck.He has several VRQ-319 sets without the transceiver but
no ATU's for them. I am also looking for the ATU.
I have found out very little about the BCC-39, no history or when
and where they were fielded in service.I heard a story that a group
of the first BCC-39 went to US special forces,and were used for drug
interdiction ops in South America, but that hear say,
Do you or anyone else in the group have any more history on the rig?
I'll be sure to let you know if I see a control panel or ATU for
sale.
and its sure puts out a good clean signal
Cheers,
John Cook
K6ERO
Favetteville Arkansas.
www.muttmotorpool.com



--- In Racal-manpacks@..., "Stijn" <s.nestra@h...> wrote:
The BCC39B is my favourite fieldday station, lightweigt and lots
of
power.
And now for the question:
With the BCC39B I've got the schematics, but I'm looking for a
full
service and operating manual (especially the chapter about the
control panel and it's communication protocol).
I'm also looking for a control panel, since I have only one panel
and
two sets.
And last but not least I'm looking for the vehicular antenna tuner,
type:
H.F.Vehicle ATU
ATU 3912
49815-100-00-01

If anyone can help me with some of these items, I would be very
happy!

Thank's for reading and

73 from Stijn PE1RKS


New Member and also a cry for help.

Stijn
 

Hi there,

I'm a Racal enthousiast from Holland, I have 2 times the BCC39B one
as a vehicular set and one as manpack. I also have some not so
portable Racal items, a TTA1870 transmitter with remote control
(comes in handy because the cooling fan's make an awfull lot of nois!
e) and two RA1784 receivers wich I can control from 4 places in the
house with some MA1072 Control panels plus some loose bits & pieces.
The BCC39B is my favourite fieldday station, lightweigt and lots of
power.
And now for the question:
With the BCC39B I've got the schematics, but I'm looking for a full
service and operating manual (especially the chapter about the
control panel and it's communication protocol).
I'm also looking for a control panel, since I have only one panel and
two sets.
And last but not least I'm looking for the vehicular antenna tuner,
type:
H.F.Vehicle ATU
ATU 3912
49815-100-00-01

If anyone can help me with some of these items, I would be very happy!

Thank's for reading and

73 from Stijn PE1RKS


Manpack remote control units

 

Hi, all,

Does anyone have either or both of the MA4985A Local Control Unit, or
the MA4985A Remote Control Unit, which they might like to part with,
or exchange for the MA985 and MA986 equivalents which are normally
used with the TRA931?

My only reason for wanting to swap is that the carrying frame for my
manpacks actually has a position to mount the MA4985.

best regards,



Bob


Mystery Racal item

 

Hi, All,

Do any of you have any informationa about an HF RF amplifier which is
in the same case style as the PRM series manpacks?

I've just come across some more information for my own 4041 manpack,
and which shows some manpack installations in the back of a Range
Rover.

One picture shows a stack of three units in the same size and style
of case as the PRM series. One is a PRM4041 without AATU (and a
further picture actually shows the AATU bolted onto the inside of the
C-pillar of the RR, with a very short lead to a standard Racal
military vehicle antenna base on the rear of the roof). A further
item is an MA4019, which I know is a filter used for co-sited multi-
radio installations.

However, the third unit is not referred to, but appears to have a
very "busy" front panel with lots of indicator lights and switches,
similar to the TA970H VHF Amplifier but a wider front panel. Two 7-
pin sockets are on the left hand side, and in the picture both are
connected to the 4041. The caption refers to the photograph as
a "High Power Vehicle Station using MA4019 Filter Units". (In fact
the photograph actually has TWO identical stacks of the three units,
which suggests that this Range Rover must be carrying a good
proportion of the total production of PRM.4041s!).

The accompanying text only refers to the TA.4044 HF Amplifier (no
suffix) which I thought was in the much larger diecast case style,
similar in size to the TRA931 transceiver?

Any information, anyone?


best regards,



Bob


Re: Strange Racal set

 

Hmm, afraid my information is pretty sketchy, Alan. The "Concise
Catalogue" has a picture, but just says " TA970H, 25 watts, 14-32
volts, for use with TRA967"!



Bob
--- In Racal-manpacks@..., Alan Tasker <atasker@i...>
wrote:

Actually, according to the Racal spec, the TA970H can have a supply
voltage between 14 and 32 volts - does it contain a regulator to
supply 12 volts to the '967? If so, that suggests they may be using
the standard 934 battery. These have turned up on eBay in the last
few months, so they are around.
Actually, I think there is a regulator inside to supply the 967
with 12 Volts.

Where do I find specs on the 970?

Thank you.

Alan


Re: Strange Racal set

Alan Tasker
 

Actually, according to the Racal spec, the TA970H can have a supply
voltage between 14 and 32 volts? -? does it contain a regulator to
supply 12 volts to the '967? If so, that suggests they may be using
the standard 934 battery. These have turned up on eBay in the last
few months, so they are around.

Actually, I think there is a regulator inside to supply the 967 with 12 Volts.

Where do I find specs on the 970?

Thank you.

Alan


Racal manpack on air 6th June

 

Hi, All,

All being well, I should be on the air tomorrow, 6th June, with an
all-green-Racal station consisting of a the PRM.4041 manpack, MA654
tactical dipole, or the MA961 Tactical Loop. I'm rushing to finish a
connection cable between the manpack and it's AATU, which I hope to
finish, otherwise I may have to cheat on this occasion and use my SGC
Portatuner.

I'll be very pleased to work any of you, of course!


best regards,

Bob, G8IYK


Re: Strange Racal set

 

Very interesting - nothing in any of my information about an
assembly like that, Alan.

Those battery dimensions fit the MA934 battery exactly, both in
external dimensions and for the fixing bolts. Normally of course
these are 24 volt (for the TRA931, etc), but I suppose Racal could
have easily used the same case and configured the cells inside
differently. Might be worth a call to one of the suppliers who still
list Racal manpack batteries, and see if they know of a 12 volt
battery in this pack?

Actually, according to the Racal spec, the TA970H can have a supply
voltage between 14 and 32 volts - does it contain a regulator to
supply 12 volts to the '967? If so, that suggests they may be using
the standard 934 battery. These have turned up on eBay in the last
few months, so they are around.

According to my information, the MA934 is one of the few batteries
from this generation of manpacks that is only available asa
rechargable, and doesn't have a dry cell equivalent.

best regards,


Bob

--- In Racal-manpacks@..., Alan Tasker <atasker@i...>
wrote:
I have a tubular frame that mounts a TRA-967 transceiver, a TRA-970
power
amp, an MA-972B ATU, a small junction box, and a (missing) battery
box. The
battery box would be about 13.5" long by 3.25" wide by about 4.5"
deep. The
box would have two mounting screws about 9.25" apart.

Does anyone have a clue on a Racal designation for this assembly?

Is there any source for the battery box?

Thank you. Alan WA1NYR


2 + 2 = 5?

Alan Tasker
 

The information that in some of the HF rigs, a voltage on the RF output line is used by the ATU brought to mind that the Racal TRA-967 VHF rig has a voltage on its RF output BNC connector, which I had thought was strange. I looked into it further, and found that the voltage was dependent upon frequency setting as follows (measured with no load on the BNC connector).

30-43,975 MHz, 0 Volts
44-59.975 MHz, ~half battery voltage
60 and up, battery voltage

I wondered if this was used for tuning, so I powered up the funny Racal backpack set (the one that has a TRA-967 plus a PA box and an ATU box), and listened carefully. There are definite sounds of relays clicking inside the ATU as the frequency is changed. Measurements show that the 967 voltage output does pass through the PA box unscathed, so we now know why this voltage exists.