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Totally pointless in my opinion. Why? 73 Roger G4IUP On 14 Jan 2018 14:58, "Keith, G6NHU" <nentecular@...> wrote:
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Whilst appreciating your good intent I see no purpose dividing places to discuss QRP Labs products. I am a member of the Kenwood TS-590 group that spawned a second group, and that is in itself confusing, but they are now arguing over turning just one over to Groups IO, which would even further complicate things. I would prefer all info remained here myself :) I would imagine the group has a fair few old buffers like myself to whom modern social media like Facebook is a no go area ;) Pubs are for chit chat, mano a mano :) Sunday, January 14, 2018 Trying to get a new FB group started. QRP-LABS Builders Group
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开云体育Advantage of having all the discussion in this group is that all the discussions are in one place and available to everyone without having to chase all over the Internet.? Disadvantage is that all the discussions are in one place, making lots of email messages.?? Every so often we see attempts to water down this group by starting a competing group.? They usually die slowly because all the useful information is here in this group.?? Arv? K7HKL _-_ Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Roger G4IUP <rogerlimbert14@...> Date: 1/14/18 8:07 AM (GMT-07:00) Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] New FB Group Totally pointless in my opinion. Why? 73 Roger G4IUP On 14 Jan 2018 14:58, "Keith, G6NHU" <nentecular@...> wrote:
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开云体育My intention was not competitive, it was complimentary. A social
media venue, not to replace but to share. John Mazzone On 1/14/2018 11:45 AM, Arv Evans wrote:
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Well said.? Strongly support having the information in a single repository. ? Jonathan kc3kbe On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 12:03 PM Arv Evans <arvid.evans@...> wrote:
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On Sun, 2018-01-14 at 12:08 -0500, John Mazzone wrote:
My intention was not competitive, it was complimentary. A social mediaYou do know that there is a web based interface to this group don't you ? /g/QRPLabs/topics PeterO G0DZB -- Please don't email me "off list" about "QCX low output" or my filter experiments. |
开云体育Thing I hate about FaceBook is, you will find something interesting that is posted, but run away to gather some information or grab an address to a page to reply to it about, but when you get back to Facebook, the posting you wanted to comment on it gone into a black hole somewhere never ever to be seen again.Joe WB9SBD Plus Informative E mails can easily be saved for future reference in folders etc. facebook..... The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com On 1/14/2018 11:08 AM, John Mazzone
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I suspect that many people have missed
the point that the new group is on facebook and not a yahoo or groups.io
reflector set up.
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Facebook offers advantages over the
original forum format in as far as you don't have to read what you have no
interest in especially where (as with yahoo/io groups) so many people NEVER
change the header of their message and simply append a meaningless addendum to
the original heading. (Yes I'm in grumpy mode)
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Yes I do but as I said, social media. aka facebook is extremely popular. My intention was merely to compliment, not to offend or "water down", or take over.
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John Mazzone On 1/14/2018 12:19 PM, G0DZB wrote:
On Sun, 2018-01-14 at 12:08 -0500, John Mazzone wrote:My intention was not competitive, it was complimentary. A social mediaYou do know that there is a web based interface to this group don't |
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It also breeds MINDLESS CHATTER!? I don't have time to read all the nonsense.? Seems like all the users have a texting obsession and MUST send every 10 minutes a three word message.? I could care less that you just turned on your soldering station and it is now up to 125 degrees.? Then a minute later you text it is now up to 145 degrees.? Not for me! Lee, w0vt |
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John Not criticizing, but we have seen this phenomena several times in the past.? There is nothing keeping you from starting your own group.? There are already several of these groups existing, but not particularly active.? This situation exists with both the QRP-Labs group and the BITX20 group.? I'm not sure which is worse...having too much email from an active and concentrated group, or having to go to several groups to see all the relevant information.? End result is probably about the same message load but having multiple groups for a specific interest may be a less efficient way to access all the relevant information.? The message load can go way up if you have well-meaning persons re-posting the same information on both Facebook and discussion group forums.? There are people who do that and think that they are helping. Facebook is a public forum.? You cannot control who posts to your group and you cannot control what they post.? Facebook does support subscription groups, but this is easy to bypass.?? On Facebook you have very limited ability to put an abusive poster on moderation or to ban that person from unwanted posting.? Most group moderators will eventually face this problem because people are different and see things differently, thus the need for moderation capability. On FB you have to scroll through all the advertisements, and only some can be blocked. No, I am not anti-Facebook.? I have my own non-technical Facebook ID that is used for humor, politics, photography, and family events.? I once had a Facebook group for QRP Technical Topics but discontinued it for reasons already mentioned above. The idea of moving non-technical discussion to another group does have merit.? Problem is one of how to divide what goes in one group versus what goes in the other group, and then how to enforce that division. Arv? K7HKL _._ On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 10:32 AM, John Mazzone <jmazzone@...> wrote: Yes I do but as I said, social media. aka facebook is extremely popular. My intention was merely to compliment, not to offend or "water down", or take over. |
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Hi all I'm not offended or anything, by a Facebook group. But from my point of view, this discussion group, operated via email, is a very convenient way to interact with QRP Labs kit constructors. I can just delete an email on a topic which doesn't need a reply. Or if a topic does need a reply, or contains something I need to remember or implement, I can keep it in my email.? Email functions as a workflow tool which is extremely valuable to me. I get 200-300 emails per day and I can't always respond immediately... biologically there is still a need for some sleep from time to time for example. On email I can easily see previous emails (group posts) in the topic and I can easily search my email archive for any other emails from a particular email address, which is helpful sometimes in reminding me of the background to a problem. The simple rule that an email stays in my inbox until I have dealt with it, helps ensure I don't miss anything.? In summary; email (and group post deliveries by email) makes it possible for me to be organised enough to somewhat manage the volume of correspondence. On Facebook I find it hard to follow what's going on... I find it easy to miss things unless I'm watching all the time, and if I decide I need to answer something later when I have more time, I usually have trouble finding it again. So for me - email wins over Facebook easily in almost every way... just my personal opinion. 73 Hans G0UPL? ? |
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I agree Lee but it is better than
ploughing through stacks of reflector (yahoo or io) messages to simply find
that, as I said, the subject matter of the original posting bears no relation to
what has just been added.
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Still we're all different and thats what
makes for an interesting (?) world
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开云体育Plus,even if you get a LOT of messages, is the delete click that hard to press? UG! Joe WB9SBD The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com On 1/14/2018 12:11 PM, Arv Evans wrote:
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Gentleman..... Go with the flow. An act of murder has not been committed, LOL. Dont like the group?.... Then dont join.. If there is no activity on the group it will die a lonely death. On the other hand, it seems some people like the idea, not in place of the present group but as a social media venue.? Its NOT that big of a deal, is it really? |
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