Hi Dennis,
Thanks for your e-mail.? Be sure to only use valid ascii characters.? Using a null character will create problems in the Access database.??
If you need to restore from your most recent backup, this will get you going:
Enjoy!
73, Scott N3FJP
Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.
1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give . But do this with gentleness and respect...
What process did you use to make the edits to your log?
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I'm good in the callbook!
47 & 73 de Travis KB5ILY / PG00041468
870-260-6068 (Phone)
On 2025-03-19 16:43, Dennis - WU6X via groups.io wrote:
> I made a simple edit of my AClog, just to add power settings to 10
> QSOs that I forgot, and now getting this error:
> Any idea what I broke or how to fix it?
> Dennis - WU6X
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On a new w11 Dell laptop i only get a single line display of jtalert with settings etc and it says no log.im trying to get ac log linked but? can't get this jt alert screen to open. This 78 yo guy needs help opening jtalert and linking it to acl
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Re: Pota Plus extension logging to ACL
I have the exact problem. did you find a fix?
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I have the exact same issue. Did you find a work around?
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What process did you use to make the edits to your log? --- I'm good in the callbook! 47 & 73 de Travis KB5ILY / PG00041468 870-260-6068 (Phone) On 2025-03-19 16:43, Dennis - WU6X via groups.io wrote: I made a simple edit of my AClog, just to add power settings to 10
QSOs that I forgot, and now getting this error:
Any idea what I broke or how to fix it?
Dennis - WU6X
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This sounds like treachery given that a backup has always been understood to be COPY of files in another location. That places Onedrive in the malware category for me. I have always kept my log files in a dedicated log file folder in the root of my C drive for no real reasons other than to make it easier to navigate to when I need to and easier to share with another computer. Seems that I out-foxed Microsoft meddling in advance (not that Onedrive will ever inhabit this PC). On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 08:20:19 -0700 "Bill - W1WRH via groups.io" <w1wrh@...> wrote: when windoze started up the next time, it asked me to do a backup with One Drive.? Since I thought I was using One Drive ONLY for backup I allowed it to do that. -- 73 -Jim NU0C
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I am not saying it was simple, but I copied all files from onedrive to a dummy folder on my HDD, not documents folder.? then told windows to stop sync, and then uninstalled onedrive
once I was sure one drive was no longer, i could disable any backup using onedrive, and restore all my docs back to the correct folders
I also found out that the folder you select for logs can be changed, and therefore not in the documents directory
I feel your pain
Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE
On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 3:14?PM WB5JJJ - George via <wb5jjj= [email protected]> wrote: This is becoming an ongoing problem with ACL and others that use the Documents folder on your computer to store their files BY DEFAULT.?
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Windows hit another friend yesterday with a similar situation.? He had created a presentation at home and went to give it to his club in a location without WiFi and NOTHING was on his laptop.? Thinking "Backup" was a good thing, he did that and it finally bit him.? He thought nothing about it since he had WiFi at home and most other places he visited and things worked.? But this time, NO.? Luckily, someone in the meeting had a cell phone with Hotspot capabilities and he got access to that and his OneDrive files.??
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Today, I talked him through getting OneDrive off of his new W11Pro laptop and bringing his files all back home where they belonged.?
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The problem with M$ attempt is that if you have more than 5G (or whatever the free limit is) in the affected folders and you activate Backup, during the upload your oldest files are deleted to keep you under the limit.? If you have lots of Pictures or other very large files, you are doomed.?
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73's
George - WB5JJJ
Hams over IP #100105
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This is becoming an ongoing problem with ACL and others that use the Documents folder on your computer to store their files BY DEFAULT.?
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Windows hit another friend yesterday with a similar situation.? He had created a presentation at home and went to give it to his club in a location without WiFi and NOTHING was on his laptop.? Thinking "Backup" was a good thing, he did that and it finally bit him.? He thought nothing about it since he had WiFi at home and most other places he visited and things worked.? But this time, NO.? Luckily, someone in the meeting had a cell phone with Hotspot capabilities and he got access to that and his OneDrive files.??
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Today, I talked him through getting OneDrive off of his new W11Pro laptop and bringing his files all back home where they belonged.?
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The problem with M$ attempt is that if you have more than 5G (or whatever the free limit is) in the affected folders and you activate Backup, during the upload your oldest files are deleted to keep you under the limit.? If you have lots of Pictures or other very large files, you are doomed.?
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73's
George - WB5JJJ
Hams over IP #100105
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I also joined the group that lost all of my log data.? I did nothing except allow windoze to update my PC.
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What I did do and not read carefully as noted above on this thread, is when windoze started up the next time, it asked me to do a backup with One Drive.? Since I thought I was using One Drive ONLY for backup I allowed it to do that.
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BIG MISTAKE.? It backed everything up and removed the local documents under my user name.?
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When I started AClog I received the error message that the files were no longer in the path and could not be loaded.? All my logs were GONE.
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This had nothing to do with AClog.? It was all on my allowing One Drive to do a back up.
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But thankfully Google had many others with this problem.? I did the following and all have returned all programs work and my log it intact!!
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OneDrive supports backup "Desktop", "Documents" or "Pictures" folders and?move?these folder locations from your local PC to?OneDrive syncing folder.
To get them back, please click OneDrive icon from taskbar notification area >> settings icon >> settings >> Under "Sync and backup", click "manage backup">> uncheck "Documents" folder and save it. (as?shown?in?screenshots?below)
This action should create a new local "Document" folder and stop syncing it with OneDrive. However, for the previous files, it will not be moved back automatically. You need to manually copy it back:
Go to File explorer >> "OneDrive" folder >> Find "Documents" folder under "OneDrive folder >> copy all contents from inside and paste it to your local PC "Documents" folder.
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The AClog is a wonderful program and I am glad I can use it.? ?I hope this might help with your lost logs.
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Did you do a Search of your hard drive for *.mdb files as I suggested? What did you find? On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 15:50:38 +0000 (UTC) "Fred W3ICM via groups.io" <BlaineFred@...> wrote: I see that I have backups for each week...BUT I am missing all of 2025, and much of 2024.? ?Entering the data from each week would be very time consuming, so I was looking for an easy method. -- 73 -Jim NU0C
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Thanks George.
I have OneDrive and I need to use if for a specific purpose.? After that I will disconnect.
73
Fred W3ICM
This sounds like you were using ONEDRIVE and it's no longer connected or using a different logon, that could be the problem.? ACL uses the default Documents folder, which in today's controlling Windows environment is not a great idea for most.? So that's why you only have today's QSO's that are located on your computer and not OneDrive.? I've helped many hams disconnect from OneDrive to get control back to their documents (logs) and such when working POTA.??
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OneDrive is a disaster if you don't fully understand how it works and that is seamlessly "steals" your precious files right out from under you nose.? Then when you go set up a POTA, nothing is there since you are no longer connected to OneDrive.??
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Microsoft is constantly "encouraging" you to use OneDrive as a backup without fully understand the implications of activating it by using the default settings.?
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I don't use OneDrive and never will, so my N3FJP logs are safe as well as backed up every night to a separate drive.?
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73's
George - WB5JJJ
Hams over IP #100105
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This sounds like you were using ONEDRIVE and it's no longer connected or using a different logon, that could be the problem.? ACL uses the default Documents folder, which in today's controlling Windows environment is not a great idea for most.? So that's why you only have today's QSO's that are located on your computer and not OneDrive.? I've helped many hams disconnect from OneDrive to get control back to their documents (logs) and such when working POTA.??
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OneDrive is a disaster if you don't fully understand how it works and that is seamlessly "steals" your precious files right out from under you nose.? Then when you go set up a POTA, nothing is there since you are no longer connected to OneDrive.??
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Microsoft is constantly "encouraging" you to use OneDrive as a backup without fully understand the implications of activating it by using the default settings.?
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I don't use OneDrive and never will, so my N3FJP logs are safe as well as backed up every night to a separate drive.?
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73's
George - WB5JJJ
Hams over IP #100105
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Hi Fred,
Thanks for your follow up.? We don't have a Club Log download function that merges data, so please use the LoTW option I recommended yesterday, when I answered your question.? ??
You wrote:
I reviewed the methods presented in the link, and I asked what is the easiest method?
Again, to reiterate, I suggest that you try the All Since download from AC Log's LoTW form, back dated to 1/1/2024.? Please read yesterday's reply in full before you proceed.
Also, be aware that if you go the weekly backup route, each backup contains your entire log, up to the date of that week.? You only have to carefully follow the backup restoration steps once, should you choose that option, instead of the recommended LoTW option.
Enjoy!
73, Scott N3FJP
Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.
1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give . But do this with gentleness and respect...
Thank you Scott.
I reviewed the methods presented in the link, and I asked what is the easiest method?
I see that I have backups for each week...BUT I am missing all of 2025, and much of 2024.? ?Entering the data from each week would be very time consuming, so I was looking for an easy method.
I have also contacted ClubLog to see if I can download the QSOs that I uploaded.? ? If possible, I will download, and then upload to ACL.
73
Fred
Hi Fred,
Thanks for your follow up.? I already replied to your question regarding the easiest restoration method (reiterated by others - thanks guys).? You will find it in the thread here:
Enjoy!
73, Scott N3FJP
Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.
1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give . But do this with gentleness and respect...
Thank you Jim,
I am still waiting to hear from Scott to answer my question on the easiest wag to restore my QSOs.
73,
Fred
On Sunday, March 16, 2025, 2:22 PM, Jim Shorney via groups.io <jimNU0C@...> wrote:
Fred,
I agree in principle. But this is Windows. I am an award chaser and have over 26,000 QSLs in ACL dating back to 1999. I have used ACL from the very early days to the the current version and have never lost any records to my knowledge. I think the first thing I would do is go into File > Show File Locations and see if the path to your log file has changed. Newer versions of Windows can do strange things (I'm looking at YOU, Onedrive). You could also have Windows to a brute force search for *.mdb files on your hard drive. It may also turn up data files from other programs but it should be obvious which ones are your log. The largest file with the most recent date should be the one you are looking for.
On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 14:02:09 +0000 (UTC)
"Fred W3ICM via groups.io" <BlaineFred@...> wrote:
> QSOs should NEVER disappear from a software update.
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73
-Jim
NU0C
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Thank you Scott.
I reviewed the methods presented in the link, and I asked what is the easiest method?
I see that I have backups for each week...BUT I am missing all of 2025, and much of 2024.? ?Entering the data from each week would be very time consuming, so I was looking for an easy method.
I have also contacted ClubLog to see if I can download the QSOs that I uploaded.? ? If possible, I will download, and then upload to ACL.
73
Fred
Hi Fred,
Thanks for your follow up.? I already replied to your question regarding the easiest restoration method (reiterated by others - thanks guys).? You will find it in the thread here:
Enjoy!
73, Scott N3FJP
Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.
1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give . But do this with gentleness and respect...
Thank you Jim,
I am still waiting to hear from Scott to answer my question on the easiest wag to restore my QSOs.
73,
Fred
On Sunday, March 16, 2025, 2:22 PM, Jim Shorney via groups.io <jimNU0C@...> wrote:
Fred,
I agree in principle. But this is Windows. I am an award chaser and have over 26,000 QSLs in ACL dating back to 1999. I have used ACL from the very early days to the the current version and have never lost any records to my knowledge. I think the first thing I would do is go into File > Show File Locations and see if the path to your log file has changed. Newer versions of Windows can do strange things (I'm looking at YOU, Onedrive). You could also have Windows to a brute force search for *.mdb files on your hard drive. It may also turn up data files from other programs but it should be obvious which ones are your log. The largest file with the most recent date should be the one you are looking for.
On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 14:02:09 +0000 (UTC)
"Fred W3ICM via groups.io" <BlaineFred@...> wrote:
> QSOs should NEVER disappear from a software update.
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73
-Jim
NU0C
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Hi Fred,
Thanks for your follow up.? I already replied to your question regarding the easiest restoration method (reiterated by others - thanks guys).? You will find it in the thread here:
Enjoy!
73, Scott N3FJP
Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.
1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give . But do this with gentleness and respect...
Thank you Jim,
I am still waiting to hear from Scott to answer my question on the easiest wag to restore my QSOs.
73,
Fred
On Sunday, March 16, 2025, 2:22 PM, Jim Shorney via groups.io <jimNU0C@...> wrote:
Fred,
I agree in principle. But this is Windows. I am an award chaser and have over 26,000 QSLs in ACL dating back to 1999. I have used ACL from the very early days to the the current version and have never lost any records to my knowledge. I think the first thing I would do is go into File > Show File Locations and see if the path to your log file has changed. Newer versions of Windows can do strange things (I'm looking at YOU, Onedrive). You could also have Windows to a brute force search for *.mdb files on your hard drive. It may also turn up data files from other programs but it should be obvious which ones are your log. The largest file with the most recent date should be the one you are looking for.
On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 14:02:09 +0000 (UTC)
"Fred W3ICM via groups.io" <BlaineFred@...> wrote:
> QSOs should NEVER disappear from a software update.
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73
-Jim
NU0C
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I must add something here.
ONE-DRIVE does not turn itself on.? It just doesn’t.? Sometimes on a Windows Update, you will be asked a series of questions.? READ THEM CAREFULLY!? One of them regards a BACKUP, and when you select YES, this is when One-Drive takes over.
One Drive does not just come alive on it’s own one day – that Terminator stuff is only in the movies.? SO FAR. ?
Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC. El Paso, Texas - DM61rt. SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager. ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Neal AB6G via groups.io
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2025 8:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Missing QSOs? Jim is correct.?? Go into the top banner menu of ACLog, and choose FILE -> SHOW FILE LOCATIONS.?? This will open a dialog box showing the location of logs and file, and also the path to the current log that is being used (which may not be the one you desire).? Notice that there is a backup directory there, with multiple copies of your log file.? On most windows systems, all of this will be under path? C:\Users\<your name>\Documents\Affirmatech\N3FJP Software\???????? unless you, or something else, moved it. Another point for possible debug:??? Did the Windows update turn on OneDrive?? Or did it get enabled recently???? A year ago on my computer, one drive turned on and suddenly
all the files in my DOCUMENTS folder were vanishing and getting moved to the OneDrive cloud online.?? It took a little work to reverse this, restore my files, turn off and remove
OneDrive, and curse at MickeySoft for the 449723065843th? time!?? And, as Scott already pointed out, even if you do not perform backups on your computer, and even if the above steps do not find where your actual log file is, you can simply download from LOTW to restore those QSOs. I can assure you that this is not a flaw in ACLog;? Something or someone has changes where your main log file is at, or else someone accidentally messed with menu FILE -> NEW or else FILE -> OPEN, but that is less likely.? Either way, checking the FILE -> SHOW FILE LOCATIONS,?? then checking the contents of C:\Users\<your name>\Documents\Affirmatech\N3FJP Software\ ? (or whatever show file locations says), and then checking if OneDrive emptied your Documents folder are some of the first simple diagnostic steps. Let us know what you find.
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Can’t you download them from LoTW.? That’s what I did WHEN I lost mine (No fault of the N3FJP software).? Worked GREAT!? I am, however, assuming it is ACLog you are talking about.
Lou WA5LOU
On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 10:40?AM Fred W3ICM via <BlaineFred= [email protected]> wrote:
Thank you Jim,
I am still waiting to hear from Scott to answer my question on the easiest wag to restore my QSOs.
73,
Fred W3ICM On Sunday, March 16, 2025, 2:22 PM, Jim Shorney via <jimNU0C=[email protected]> wrote: Fred, I agree in principle. But this is Windows. I am an award chaser and have over 26,000 QSLs in ACL dating back to 1999. I have used ACL from the very early days to the the current version and have never lost any records to my knowledge. I think the first thing I would do is go into File > Show File Locations and see if the path to your log file has changed. Newer versions of Windows can do strange things (I'm looking at YOU, Onedrive). You could also have Windows to a brute force search for *.mdb files on your hard drive. It may also turn up data files from other programs but it should be obvious which ones are your log. The largest file with the most recent date should be the one you are looking for. On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 14:02:09 +0000 (UTC) "Fred W3ICM via " <BlaineFred= [email protected]> wrote: > QSOs should NEVER disappear from a software update. -- 73 -Jim NU0C
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Fred:
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Jim is correct.?? Go into the top banner menu of ACLog, and choose FILE -> SHOW FILE LOCATIONS.?? This will open a dialog box showing the location of logs and file, and also the path to the current log that is being used (which may not be the one you desire).? Notice that there is a backup directory there, with multiple copies of your log file.? On most windows systems, all of this will be under path? C:\Users\<your name>\Documents\Affirmatech\N3FJP Software\???????? unless you, or something else, moved it.
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Another point for possible debug:??? Did the Windows update turn on OneDrive?? Or did it get enabled recently???? A year ago on my computer, one drive turned on and suddenly
all the files in my DOCUMENTS folder were vanishing and getting moved to the OneDrive cloud online.?? It took a little work to reverse this, restore my files, turn off and remove
OneDrive, and curse at MickeySoft for the 449723065843th? time!??
And, as Scott already pointed out, even if you do not perform backups on your computer, and even if the above steps do not find where your actual log file is, you can simply download from LOTW to restore those QSOs.
?
I can assure you that this is not a flaw in ACLog;? Something or someone has changes where your main log file is at, or else someone accidentally messed with menu FILE -> NEW or else FILE -> OPEN, but that is less likely.? Either way, checking the FILE -> SHOW FILE LOCATIONS,?? then checking the contents of C:\Users\<your name>\Documents\Affirmatech\N3FJP Software\ ? (or whatever show file locations says), and then checking if OneDrive emptied your Documents folder are some of the first simple diagnostic steps.
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Let us know what you find.
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73,
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Neal
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Thank you Jim,
I am still waiting to hear from Scott to answer my question on the easiest wag to restore my QSOs.
73,
Fred
On Sunday, March 16, 2025, 2:22 PM, Jim Shorney via groups.io <jimNU0C@...> wrote:
Fred,
I agree in principle. But this is Windows. I am an award chaser and have over 26,000 QSLs in ACL dating back to 1999. I have used ACL from the very early days to the the current version and have never lost any records to my knowledge. I think the first thing I would do is go into File > Show File Locations and see if the path to your log file has changed. Newer versions of Windows can do strange things (I'm looking at YOU, Onedrive). You could also have Windows to a brute force search for *.mdb files on your hard drive. It may also turn up data files from other programs but it should be obvious which ones are your log. The largest file with the most recent date should be the one you are looking for.
On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 14:02:09 +0000 (UTC)
"Fred W3ICM via groups.io" <BlaineFred@...> wrote:
> QSOs should NEVER disappear from a software update.
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73
-Jim
NU0C
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Fred, I agree in principle. But this is Windows. I am an award chaser and have over 26,000 QSLs in ACL dating back to 1999. I have used ACL from the very early days to the the current version and have never lost any records to my knowledge. I think the first thing I would do is go into File > Show File Locations and see if the path to your log file has changed. Newer versions of Windows can do strange things (I'm looking at YOU, Onedrive). You could also have Windows to a brute force search for *.mdb files on your hard drive. It may also turn up data files from other programs but it should be obvious which ones are your log. The largest file with the most recent date should be the one you are looking for. On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 14:02:09 +0000 (UTC) "Fred W3ICM via groups.io" <BlaineFred@...> wrote: QSOs should NEVER disappear from a software update. -- 73 -Jim NU0C
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WA2NWN - Charlie
KB5ILY - Travis W. Burton
Jim Shorney
WB5JJJ - George
Mike Olbrisch
Lou WA5LOU
Neal AB6G