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All Things Data

 

Hi Bob,

I won't do a long reply on the forum. I found several resources, including some paid.
I was looking for a little more meat for each mode rather than - mostly - superficial
descriptions and comparisons.

From the ARRL web site:
"JS8call has replaced PSK31 as the keyboard to keyboard mode, though 20M PSK31
can still be found."

I've gone through 17/58 chapters of the resource I'm using. So far, nary a word about JS8call
but PSK31 appears among and is the answer for no small number of questions from
the Extra pool.

Go figure.

Let's go off-line from here. I don't want Scott jumping on my old bones <g>

Clear Skies,
Brian D. Warner
WB0NWZ


----- Original Message -----
From: N4REE - Bob [mailto:N4REE@...]
To: <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, 07 Mar 2025 03:29:06 -0800
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] All Things Data

FWIW Brian,
The ARRL Extra Class License Manual ( https://www.arrl.org/extra-class-license-manual ) has about 15 pages (chapter 8) devoted to digital modes. It may be the overview you're looking for.
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72 de N4REE, Bob Easton - QRP CW forever









Re: POTA Stations

 

For something like that, I'd recommend Grid Tracker or JT Alert.? ACL does not have alerting for POTA that I've seen and WSJT does not have alerting beyone color coding decode lines, that I have seen.
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Ryan
KI6BTY


Re: All Things Data

 

FWIW Brian,
The has about 15 pages (chapter 8) devoted to digital modes. It may be the overview you're looking for.
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72 de N4REE, Bob Easton - QRP CW forever


Re: WSJTX Integration

 

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That might work………?? Thanks!

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Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC.

El Paso, Texas - DM61rt.

SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager.

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From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Banks via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2025 8:40 AM
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] WSJTX Integration

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Hi Mike,

I have one of my three "rigs" set up as "none."?? Then I can just use Cntrl-X to turn off the ACLog <-> Computer I/O to allow WSJT-X to take rig control.? When done with FT8, I use Cntrl-X again to re-establish ACLog I/O control.

Larry / W1DYJ


On 3/6/2025 10:24, Mike Olbrisch wrote:

My issue is that sometimes I go days without turning on WSJT-X, but I open AC-Log every morning.? And if at some point throughout the day something pops up on FT8, I do not want to just shut down AC-Log so I can start WSJT-X first, then AC-Log AGAIN.

The way I have it set up is working for me.? Once something is working, I’m inclined to not fix it more.

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Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC.

El Paso, Texas - DM61rt.

SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager.

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From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Hoffman via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2025 4:13 AM
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] WSJTX Integration

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Turning on WSJT first if desired is the simplest way but I still want to get it working in the manner alluded to in the N3FJP FAQ. Because I like playing around. :)

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POTA Stations

Norm - K7NWF
 

Is there a way to receive some type of an alert with a station calling CQ POTA on WSJTx and Amateur Contact Log?
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Thanks in advance for your help...
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Re: WSJTX Integration

 

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Hi Mike,

I have one of my three "rigs" set up as "none."?? Then I can just use Cntrl-X to turn off the ACLog <-> Computer I/O to allow WSJT-X to take rig control.? When done with FT8, I use Cntrl-X again to re-establish ACLog I/O control.

Larry / W1DYJ



On 3/6/2025 10:24, Mike Olbrisch wrote:

My issue is that sometimes I go days without turning on WSJT-X, but I open AC-Log every morning.? And if at some point throughout the day something pops up on FT8, I do not want to just shut down AC-Log so I can start WSJT-X first, then AC-Log AGAIN.

The way I have it set up is working for me.? Once something is working, I’m inclined to not fix it more.

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Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC.

El Paso, Texas - DM61rt.

SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager.

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From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Hoffman via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2025 4:13 AM
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] WSJTX Integration

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Turning on WSJT first if desired is the simplest way but I still want to get it working in the manner alluded to in the N3FJP FAQ. Because I like playing around. :)



Re: WSJTX Integration

 

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My issue is that sometimes I go days without turning on WSJT-X, but I open AC-Log every morning.? And if at some point throughout the day something pops up on FT8, I do not want to just shut down AC-Log so I can start WSJT-X first, then AC-Log AGAIN.

The way I have it set up is working for me.? Once something is working, I’m inclined to not fix it more.

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Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC.

El Paso, Texas - DM61rt.

SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager.

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From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Hoffman via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2025 4:13 AM
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] WSJTX Integration

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Turning on WSJT first if desired is the simplest way but I still want to get it working in the manner alluded to in the N3FJP FAQ. Because I like playing around. :)


Re: Sudden LOTW loading problem

 

Check the actual tqsl program

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On Thu, Mar 6, 2025, 9:25?a.m. Larry Banks via <larryb.w1dyj=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Jeff,

Is your LoTW certificate out of date?

Larry / W1DYJ


On 3/6/2025 09:21, JeffBanke via wrote:
OK, prior to the contest last week I had no trouble uploading/downloding to and from AC LOG to LoTW.
I used Scott's contest software for the contest, submitted my log to the ARRL and then imported it (only 229 contacts) into AC LOG.
I then have tried multiple times to download to LoTW using the usual method and get this message every time. Does anyone have any idea what could have happened?
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Jeff - NZ2S


Re: Sudden LOTW loading problem

 

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Hi Jeff,

Is your LoTW certificate out of date?

Larry / W1DYJ


On 3/6/2025 09:21, JeffBanke via groups.io wrote:

OK, prior to the contest last week I had no trouble uploading/downloding to and from AC LOG to LoTW.
I used Scott's contest software for the contest, submitted my log to the ARRL and then imported it (only 229 contacts) into AC LOG.
I then have tried multiple times to download to LoTW using the usual method and get this message every time. Does anyone have any idea what could have happened?
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Jeff - NZ2S


Re: Sudden LOTW loading problem

 

Have you looked at the NZ2S certificate to see if it has expired?
Bob, N3FM


On Thu, Mar 6, 2025, 9:21?AM JeffBanke via <jeffbanke=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
OK, prior to the contest last week I had no trouble uploading/downloding to and from AC LOG to LoTW.
I used Scott's contest software for the contest, submitted my log to the ARRL and then imported it (only 229 contacts) into AC LOG.
I then have tried multiple times to download to LoTW using the usual method and get this message every time. Does anyone have any idea what could have happened?
--
Jeff - NZ2S


Sudden LOTW loading problem

 

OK, prior to the contest last week I had no trouble uploading/downloding to and from AC LOG to LoTW.
I used Scott's contest software for the contest, submitted my log to the ARRL and then imported it (only 229 contacts) into AC LOG.
I then have tried multiple times to download to LoTW using the usual method and get this message every time. Does anyone have any idea what could have happened?
--
Jeff - NZ2S


Re: ARRL DX SSB HamDash Results!

 

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Thanks Mark so far so good. been a year now.

LArry N8CWU

On 3/4/2025 3:38 PM, Mark/W8GX via groups.io wrote:

Darn, just missed the top 20! Claim score 516,924 this year. So glad Larry, N8CWU, isn't in Michigan. BTW, Larry, hope that you're done with that ugly cancer.? I had Hodgkin's lymphoma in 2023 and in remission now for 1 1/2 years.??


All Things Data

 

This is probably off-topic, so any replies should go to me directly.

I'm coming here because so many of you are involved with various forms of digital modes. Digital is not my thing. For one: too many toys, too little money and/or time, too involved into starting up in POTA.

However, I'm studying for the Extra ticket and, of course, there are a number of potential questions about digital communications. Some of the questions mention modes and methods of modulation that are completely unknown to me and - more important - in none of the on-line sources I found during a 2 AM search. Most of them claimed to be the complete guide to digital, yet modes on the test were not mentioned and beyond the obvious ones, there didn't seem to be a consistent list of common modes.

I don't want to be a digital expert, but I would like to find a reasonable comprehensive primer on digital that goes beyond the surface. I feel I should be able to do and know better than just memorize the answers for the exam pool.

Brian D. Warner
WB0NWZ
brian@...


Re: WSJTX Integration

 

Turning on WSJT first if desired is the simplest way but I still want to get it working in the manner alluded to in the N3FJP FAQ. Because I like playing around. :)


Re: WSJTX Integration

 

I've been letting WSJT control the rig. Logging a contact is simple, it goes right to N3FJP.? No problems there.?
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But I have been trying to set things up so that if I am NOT using WSJT, N3FJP rig control is fully functional without changing any settings, as per these instructions from N3FJP:
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  • Alternatively, you can set AC Log to perform rig interface and set WSJT-X's rig selection to None.??Please note that if you go this route, it is best to set AC Log to return?Mode by Frequency?and enable?Return All Mapped Digital Modes.? Otherwise,? AC Log will display SSB for mode until you log a contact, but the mode will be saved as the proper digital mode either way.? AC Log will set most rigs to transmit as WSJT-X transmits, so WSJT remains fully functional with AC Log performing rig control.
The only difference from these instructions is that my WSJT has a "rig" selection labelled "N3FJP" and that is what I used.? When I set that up correctly, BOTH programs are reading the frequency, band and (for ACLog) mode data simultaneously.?
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The issue is with PTT.? When I set it up this way, I get a message from WSJT that the PTT selection is invalid.? The integration FAQ says that "AC Log will set most rigs to transmit as WSJT-X transmits" and I am wondering how it does that and what PTT setting in WSJT will make that program happy.?
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Re: WSJTX Integration

 

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Works well on SSB.? Turn on WSJT first. N3FJP then says it can not find the port. Just click ok, and you are on your way in digital.? If you do not start WSJT then the N#FJP finds the port and all is well'

Larry

WB2UFO

On 3/5/2025 8:13 PM, Mike Olbrisch wrote:

That works fine as long as you only use digital.? Not a good plan if you log lots of SSB and CW and only occasionally do digital.

I have it working with no rig in WSJT-X and my proper ICOM config in AC-Log.? But I don’t remember how.

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Vy73 ?– ?Mike ?– ?KD5KC – WRFF851 – ?El Paso – Texas ?– ?DM61rt. ?

SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager.

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The canyons are calling, colorful and deep. ?But I have promises to keep.

And miles to go still in my Jeep...? ?And miles to go still in my Jeep...

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ADVENTURE: ?The respectful pursuit of trouble.? ?

An EXIT is really an ENTRANCE to someplace new. ?

It isn’t an ADVENTURE until something goes wrong!

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From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry
Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2025 20:06 PM
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] WSJTX Integration

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Do it the reverse.? Have WSJTX control the rig and pass the info to N3FJP

Larry

WB2UFO

On 3/5/2025 7:20 PM, Robert Hoffman via groups.io wrote:

Unable to find an answer here, maybe someone can help me out.?

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Trying to use N3FJP to control WSJTX.? I have my rig selected in ACLog, and WSJTX rig set to N3FJP.? Both programs are reading the band and frequency from the rig that way.

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So far, so good.?

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However,? the PTT options don't work....leaving it set on CAT doesn't work, neither do RTS or DTR.? I'm using USB so not surprising.? WSJTX pops up "Invalid PTT".?

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Is VOX the only option here, or am I missing something?

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Thanks!?


Re: WSJTX Integration

 

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That works fine as long as you only use digital.? Not a good plan if you log lots of SSB and CW and only occasionally do digital.

I have it working with no rig in WSJT-X and my proper ICOM config in AC-Log.? But I don’t remember how.

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Vy73 ?– ?Mike ?– ?KD5KC – WRFF851 – ?El Paso – Texas ?– ?DM61rt. ?

SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager.

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The canyons are calling, colorful and deep. ?But I have promises to keep.

And miles to go still in my Jeep...? ?And miles to go still in my Jeep...

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ADVENTURE: ?The respectful pursuit of trouble.? ?

An EXIT is really an ENTRANCE to someplace new. ?

It isn’t an ADVENTURE until something goes wrong!

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From: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io <N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry
Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2025 20:06 PM
To: N3FJPSoftwareUsers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] WSJTX Integration

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Do it the reverse.? Have WSJTX control the rig and pass the info to N3FJP

Larry

WB2UFO

On 3/5/2025 7:20 PM, Robert Hoffman via groups.io wrote:

Unable to find an answer here, maybe someone can help me out.?

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Trying to use N3FJP to control WSJTX.? I have my rig selected in ACLog, and WSJTX rig set to N3FJP.? Both programs are reading the band and frequency from the rig that way.

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So far, so good.?

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However,? the PTT options don't work....leaving it set on CAT doesn't work, neither do RTS or DTR.? I'm using USB so not surprising.? WSJTX pops up "Invalid PTT".?

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Is VOX the only option here, or am I missing something?

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Thanks!?


Re: WSJTX Integration

 

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Do it the reverse.? Have WSJTX control the rig and pass the info to N3FJP

Larry

WB2UFO

On 3/5/2025 7:20 PM, Robert Hoffman via groups.io wrote:

Unable to find an answer here, maybe someone can help me out.?
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Trying to use N3FJP to control WSJTX.? I have my rig selected in ACLog, and WSJTX rig set to N3FJP.? Both programs are reading the band and frequency from the rig that way.
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So far, so good.?
?
However,? the PTT options don't work....leaving it set on CAT doesn't work, neither do RTS or DTR.? I'm using USB so not surprising.? WSJTX pops up "Invalid PTT".?
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Is VOX the only option here, or am I missing something?
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Thanks!?


WSJTX Integration

 

Unable to find an answer here, maybe someone can help me out.?
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Trying to use N3FJP to control WSJTX.? I have my rig selected in ACLog, and WSJTX rig set to N3FJP.? Both programs are reading the band and frequency from the rig that way.
?
So far, so good.?
?
However,? the PTT options don't work....leaving it set on CAT doesn't work, neither do RTS or DTR.? I'm using USB so not surprising.? WSJTX pops up "Invalid PTT".?
?
Is VOX the only option here, or am I missing something?
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Thanks!?


Re: ARRL DX SSB HamDash Results!

 

Congrats to all in the contest.

Finished 27th in the HamDash in SO LP A.

Can't complain about that at all, given we had a birthday party at the house for my son and I was busy changing baluns and raising/changing placement of my 2 antennas.

73,
Ken
KN2D
CW Ops #3566

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