Re: offcenter virtual ground, opamp mic with transformer
I tend to use stripboard for my mic experiments, so the SOIC to DIP? adaptors that kennjava mentions are really very useful. See the image in the middle of page one of *THESE PROJECT NOTES* (
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Arjay1949
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#37412
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Re: offcenter virtual ground, opamp mic with transformer
The latter term is more correct, but they actually are the same. The give-away is the identical units. I thought I read 17. My mistake. Well, 7dB can be a lot in a direct comparison. That's right.
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Jerry Lee Marcel
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#37411
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Re: offcenter virtual ground, opamp mic with transformer
Google "soic to dip" and you'll see several sources for little adaptor boards that make it possible to use those ICs in DIP sockets or protoboards. This would be handy at the experimental/development
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kennjava
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#37410
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Re: offcenter virtual ground, opamp mic with transformer
I'm trying to understand this. the datasheets don't use exactly the same terms. is "equivalent input noise voltage" the same things as "voltage noise density"? TLE2071 gives "Equivalent input noise
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thet
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#37409
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Re: offcenter virtual ground, opamp mic with transformer
The noise voltage density of the TLE071 is 11dB higher tha the 1641. Depending on expectations, that may be a problem.
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Jerry Lee Marcel
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#37408
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Re: offcenter virtual ground, opamp mic with transformer
I'm not sure there would be any significant difference in sound quality between Vgnd and Gnd as a reference for the transformer de-coupling? I think it would simply mea
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Arjay1949
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#37407
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Re: offcenter virtual ground, opamp mic with transformer
Has anyone tried the TLE2071? https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tle2071.pdf any insights into real world noise performance vs the 1641? I'm not expert enough in opamps to interpret the figures for the
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thet
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#37406
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Re: offcenter virtual ground, opamp mic with transformer
Yes when I first did this opamp tx circuit a couple of years ago, I had the experience that decoupling the transformer solved VG imbalance. I didn't need to refer it to actual ground IIRC. In this
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thet
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#37405
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Re: DPA-4099
Funny you should ask, I did exactly this (see pic here <https://lacinato.com/pub/electrets/instmic/mandomic.jpg>). I made a Primo EM-184 with Simplest P48 and built a clip-on mount to attach it to a
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Casey
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#37404
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DPA-4099
Hi all - I am interested in close-mic'ing some instruments that would normally be "professionally" mic'd with a DPA-4099. I am curious if anyone has done much of a shoot-out with regards to their
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cx b
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#37403
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Re: offcenter virtual ground, opamp mic with transformer
Well, for testing purposes - rather than actual final use? - then I've found the good old fashioned TL071? works quite well. It has many similar parameters, but it does make a lot more noise! As to
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Arjay1949
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#37402
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Re: offcenter virtual ground, opamp mic with transformer
The guardring seems like a good idea, but I don't see how it could be done with one of these tiny opamps. it would have to be very fine, and if it were left free of solder mask, it would certainly
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thet
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#37401
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Re: offcenter virtual ground, opamp mic with transformer
A friend of mine recently had exactly the same problem you described here and also solved it by thoroughly cleaning the PCBA with IPA. I gave him the advice to add a guardring. The guardring connects
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@jp8
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#37400
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Re: offcenter virtual ground, opamp mic with transformer
if the virtual ground is high through the route you describe that suggests that: * isolating the transformer with a cap should help. It didn¡¯t noticeably earlier but maybe now things are close and
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thet
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#37399
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Re: offcenter virtual ground, opamp mic with transformer
Didn't notice that. I thought the schemo was the latest issue. This is good. Remember that, even with
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Jerry Lee Marcel
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#37398
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Re: offcenter virtual ground, opamp mic with transformer
It's not a 15v zener any more I increased it to 27v to give me headroom for the opamp gain. from my original post: "(possibly irrelevant aside - in my latest version I'm using a 7:1 transformer and
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thet
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#37397
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Re: offcenter virtual ground, opamp mic with transformer
This is not normal, with a 15V zener the voltage should be less than 16V. The VG voltage should be pretty close to half of V+. OK OK. This shouldn't happen. It is a possibilit
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Jerry Lee Marcel
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#37396
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Re: offcenter virtual ground, opamp mic with transformer
Hello all, I don't normally post here much but @thet is there a specific reason why the transformer primary needs to use virtual ground versus "original recipe" ground at pin 1? I can guess we're able
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langston@...
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#37395
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Re: offcenter virtual ground, opamp mic with transformer
I have put the board in a body for a more stable test situation. Though the cover is off of course. With a 100pF cap across the 1G resistor to simulate a capsule, I now have a very high virtual
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thet
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#37394
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Re: offcenter virtual ground, opamp mic with transformer
How are you measuring it? What value are you measuring? What voltage are you measuring on pins 2, 3 and 6 of the 1641? Wrong assumption. That confirms it's not the origin of the problem.
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Jerry Lee Marcel
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#37393
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