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Re: DPA-4099


 

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I am interested in close-mic'ing some instruments that would normally be "professionally" mic'd with a DPA-4099. I am curious if anyone has done much of a shoot-out with regards to their condenser and more readily-available, open source sorts of options.

Are there any benefits to the polar patterns or noise floor of a DPA-4099 over, say, an AOM-5024?? Having never used the more expensive tool, I am curious to hear from people who have had experience with both.

Funny you should ask, I did exactly this (). I made a Primo EM-184 with Simplest P48 and built a clip-on mount to attach it to a mandolin, with the rough intent of duplicating a 4099. From a previous post: "they [the EM184] aren't made now -- there are newer replacements for the same thing that they make) and I compared it with a DPA d:vote 4099. After a bit of EQ, they were just about indistinguishable to me. The directionality would certainly be different, but it wasn't a problem for me in practice. The main issue was that the primo doesn't have the bass rolloff you would expect/want for an instrument-mounted mic, but it was easily handled with eq." That lack of rolloff manifests in a boomy sound and a thump every time you pick a note, body handling noise, higher chance of boomy feedback, etc.

Capsule suspension (which helps tame the thumps and handling noise) is also another tough thing to get right (with mandolin you hear tons of pick noise otherwise.) One version . I think suspending on little loops would be better. The capsules are so light that you have to find a way to mount them very gingerly, which makes your suspension method prone to failure. These days with 3D printing (especially since you can 3D print pliable materials now) there may be more clever ways to handle this!

In retrospect, it was easy to get a sound that matched the 4099, but an awful lot of work to get the mounting system together, the suspension, etc., and on that score the result wasn't nearly as good. The SNR spec is probably not quite as good but I don't think that really matters for this kind of application. I think with the 4099 what you are paying for is really the overall system, the discreet low-profile look, the reliability, "just plug it in and it sounds right", etc. It was a fun project that I don't regret but if I valued my time I would just buy a used 4099. :-)

-c


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