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Re: gold simulation

 

On 6/21/2022 11:26 PM, Ari wrote:
? Here it is under changing light conditions!
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I like Sim 3 ...?? JHR


Re: gold simulation

 

On 6/22/2022 8:37 AM, Pierre Olivier wrote:
an't help to find the "blue" rings are way too tame and actually look like grey...
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Grey is good.?? It is an understated color and appears as if you do not need fancy colors to look good.? I think it works - different from the rest, yet subdued, subtle and confident.?? JHR


Re: gold simulation

 

Can't help to find the "blue" rings are way too tame and actually look like grey...

Le 2022-06-22 06:16, Ari a ¨¦crit?:
Finished...ish? I keep getting stuck adding more detail when I'm doing
stuff for render. If you zoom in on the side profile, you can see the
lines from the lathe.
On 6/21/2022 11:44 PM, Ari via groups.io wrote:
You would not believe how slow this is. Rendering time with the gold sim: 3m40s. Rendering time without the gold sim (everything else identical except the gold is opaque): 12s. Same samples per pixel and noise level.
On 6/21/2022 11:34 PM, Ari via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Jules! Here's another angle. I think it captures all of the color changes of gold pretty well...
On 6/21/2022 11:33 PM, Jules Ryckebusch wrote:
Its beautiful!
Best Regards,
Jules

On Jun 21, 2022, at 22:27, Ari <soliloqueenwastaken@...> wrote:
?This isn't really on topic, but I wasn't satisfied with any of the existing solutions for rendering the gold trace on the diaphragm in my capsule visualization, so I rigged up my own model. Here it is under changing light conditions! Finally, some use for all those years in computer graphics...


Re: gold simulation

 

accidentally attached backplate thumbnail

On 6/22/2022 6:16 AM, Ari via groups.io wrote:
Finished...ish? I keep getting stuck adding more detail when I'm doing stuff for render. If you zoom in on the side profile, you can see the lines from the lathe.

On 6/21/2022 11:44 PM, Ari via groups.io wrote:
You would not believe how slow this is. Rendering time with the gold sim: 3m40s. Rendering time without the gold sim (everything else identical except the gold is opaque): 12s. Same samples per pixel and noise level.

On 6/21/2022 11:34 PM, Ari via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Jules! Here's another angle. I think it captures all of the color changes of gold pretty well...

On 6/21/2022 11:33 PM, Jules Ryckebusch wrote:
Its beautiful!

Best Regards,

Jules

On Jun 21, 2022, at 22:27, Ari <soliloqueenwastaken@...> wrote:

?This isn't really on topic, but I wasn't satisfied with any of the existing solutions for rendering the gold trace on the diaphragm in my capsule visualization, so I rigged up my own model. Here it is under changing light conditions! Finally, some use for all those years in computer graphics...















Re: gold simulation

 

Finished...ish? I keep getting stuck adding more detail when I'm doing stuff for render. If you zoom in on the side profile, you can see the lines from the lathe.

On 6/21/2022 11:44 PM, Ari via groups.io wrote:
You would not believe how slow this is. Rendering time with the gold sim: 3m40s. Rendering time without the gold sim (everything else identical except the gold is opaque): 12s. Same samples per pixel and noise level.

On 6/21/2022 11:34 PM, Ari via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Jules! Here's another angle. I think it captures all of the color changes of gold pretty well...

On 6/21/2022 11:33 PM, Jules Ryckebusch wrote:
Its beautiful!

Best Regards,

Jules

On Jun 21, 2022, at 22:27, Ari <soliloqueenwastaken@...> wrote:

?This isn't really on topic, but I wasn't satisfied with any of the existing solutions for rendering the gold trace on the diaphragm in my capsule visualization, so I rigged up my own model. Here it is under changing light conditions! Finally, some use for all those years in computer graphics...












Studio projects b3 Capsule mod rk-47

 

Hi everyone,

Perhaps not everyone's type of style of music and I think the Facebook page is public. If not let me know. The goal is to show how it sounds like.

This track is older and I recorded my bother in law in my little vocal booth down in my basement when I had it set up. I bought a used studio projects b3 mic and a new studio projects b3 mic. In one I put the rk-47 and the other I put the rk-12. The k-12 had spiky highs but rich lows and I think the rk-47 mellowed the sound out but I did not find the lows being as rich. Thanks to ?I was able to learn what the mic needed. :)

The sad news I sold both of the mics during time I thought I needed the extra money and I thought I would not need the mics anymore. Be careful for anyone selling stuff that you think is not needed. Her is the vid link down below!?


Re: gold simulation

 

You would not believe how slow this is. Rendering time with the gold sim: 3m40s. Rendering time without the gold sim (everything else identical except the gold is opaque): 12s. Same samples per pixel and noise level.

On 6/21/2022 11:34 PM, Ari via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Jules! Here's another angle. I think it captures all of the color changes of gold pretty well...

On 6/21/2022 11:33 PM, Jules Ryckebusch wrote:
Its beautiful!

Best Regards,

Jules

On Jun 21, 2022, at 22:27, Ari <soliloqueenwastaken@...> wrote:

?This isn't really on topic, but I wasn't satisfied with any of the existing solutions for rendering the gold trace on the diaphragm in my capsule visualization, so I rigged up my own model. Here it is under changing light conditions! Finally, some use for all those years in computer graphics...









Re: gold simulation

 

Thanks Jules! Here's another angle. I think it captures all of the color changes of gold pretty well...

On 6/21/2022 11:33 PM, Jules Ryckebusch wrote:
Its beautiful!

Best Regards,

Jules

On Jun 21, 2022, at 22:27, Ari <soliloqueenwastaken@...> wrote:

?This isn't really on topic, but I wasn't satisfied with any of the existing solutions for rendering the gold trace on the diaphragm in my capsule visualization, so I rigged up my own model. Here it is under changing light conditions! Finally, some use for all those years in computer graphics...






Re: gold simulation

 

Its beautiful!

Best Regards,

Jules

On Jun 21, 2022, at 22:27, Ari <soliloqueenwastaken@...> wrote:

?This isn't really on topic, but I wasn't satisfied with any of the existing solutions for rendering the gold trace on the diaphragm in my capsule visualization, so I rigged up my own model. Here it is under changing light conditions! Finally, some use for all those years in computer graphics...





gold simulation

 

This isn't really on topic, but I wasn't satisfied with any of the existing solutions for rendering the gold trace on the diaphragm in my capsule visualization, so I rigged up my own model. Here it is under changing light conditions! Finally, some use for all those years in computer graphics...


Re: Source of dynamic capsules?

 

Hi JHR!
I did buy the capsules I had mentionned in earlier post.
Unfortunately I did not test any as ALL these capsules appear made to fit a SM58 body, of which I have none.
They do not fit any of the mic bodies I wanted to try them with, so this project has taken the backseat.
Someday I may try to modify them to try to fit them in my mics, or buy some more to see if I can find an appropriately sized model...
Sorry for the dead-end.
Pierre

Le 2022-06-21 13:41, Richards a ¨¦crit?:
Howdy Pierre. Did you find a useful dynamic cartridge to revive
your old microphone handles? I have had fairly good results with
some models found on eBay for under $10 US over the past couple of
years. I might be able to provide a specific sound sample of some of
them if you point to any your are interested in.
I have mounded different (various) dynamic cartridges in regular
performance style handles, as well as squeeze one or two into the head
basket of a couple of BM-800 type bodies, converting them to dynamic
microphones.
I am interested in knowing whether you found one or more cartridges
you like, and, if so, wonder which they are. Happy trails to you.
JHR


Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?

 

Yea that¡¯s the ai vs i revision. The history of this is fascinating.

Best Regards,

Jules Ryckebusch

On Jun 21, 2022, at 17:09, recordinghacks <matt@...> wrote:

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On June 21, 2022 at 1:54:28 PM, Jules Ryckebusch (ryckebusch@...) wrote:
My U87ai is this:
And has a DC converter(s) one for + and one for -.
Right. The DC converter was introduced with the A revision.

The older U87i had the 4-wire capsule, no DC converter, and room for batteries.



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matt.





Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?

 

On June 21, 2022 at 1:54:28 PM, Jules Ryckebusch (ryckebusch@...) wrote:
My U87ai is this:
And has a DC converter(s) one for + and one for -.
Right. The DC converter was introduced with the A revision.?

The older U87i had the 4-wire capsule, no DC converter, and room for batteries.



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matt.


Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?

 

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My U87ai is this:?

And has a DC converter(s) one for + and one for -.

Best Regards,

Jules Ryckebusch?

On Jun 21, 2022, at 16:01, recordinghacks <matt@...> wrote:

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On June 21, 2022 at 12:27:47 PM, Jules Ryckebusch (ryckebusch@...) wrote:
My ¡°history¡± shows that Neumann did it to allow for polarity ?
switching for the original U87 backplates for pattern selection. ?

The U87i didn¡¯t have a a DC converter, so they couldn¡¯t easily get Fig-8 out of ~40V phantom without treating the capsule as two separate capsules (connected via 4 wires).

With a DC converter, the capsule can be polarized either as -60/0/+60, or 0/+60/+120, with a common backplate, to make Fig8.

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matt.






Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?

 

On June 21, 2022 at 12:27:47 PM, Jules Ryckebusch (ryckebusch@...) wrote:
My ¡°history¡± shows that Neumann did it to allow for polarity
switching for the original U87 backplates for pattern selection.
The U87i didn¡¯t have a a DC converter, so they couldn¡¯t easily get Fig-8 out of ~40V phantom without treating the capsule as two separate capsules (connected via 4 wires).

With a DC converter, the capsule can be polarized either as -60/0/+60, or 0/+60/+120, with a common backplate, to make Fig8.

¡ª
matt.


Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?

 

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That will be awesome. ?My ¡°history¡± shows that Neumann did it to allow for polarity switching for the original U87 backplates for pattern selection. Then after the 87ai came out they changed the electronics. ??

Best Regards,

Jules Ryckebusch?

On Jun 21, 2022, at 15:23, Ari <soliloqueenwastaken@...> wrote:

?
The k67 has connected backplates and so does the modern k870 in the u87 AI. The capsule only had isolated backplates for a decade or two for the original u87

That being said, yes it will, because that's most flexible. People can connect the back plates however they like for three wire builds I think

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 2:32 PM Phil Manning <phil.manning.piano@...> wrote:
Hi Ari - can I presume these capsules have the front and rear backplates isolated like in the older K67?

Phil Manning
~ classic recording studio
~piano tuning & service
Ajax studio: 905.231.3189
Pickering shop/office: 416.907.3562
cell: 905.626.3727



On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 6:04 PM Ari <soliloqueenwastaken@...> wrote:

well, caveat, these things are true in specification, but i think some adaptations were made for manufacturing, ie using 0.6mm metric bits for the thru holes

On 6/20/2022 5:50 PM, Ari via wrote:

i am fairly certain in fact that i have arrived at the original specification for this backplate sans all manufacturing variance, with a few changes like screw size etc

On 6/20/2022 5:46 PM, Ari via wrote:

so for the past few months i've been taking a scale-calibrated microscope to a few k67 samples and after averaging out all of the runout, tolerances etc have come to the conclusion that the construction is insanely simple. every single measurement on this capsule (in its specification at least) is either a whole number or a simple fraction. the grid pattern is just a 22 by 22 grid of holes 2mm apart where the holes outside the center circle are not drilled. the blind holes are 3 2/3mm deep at the point exactly (about 3.4mm deep to the barrel). the through holes are 2/3rds of a mm wide, etc. it's funny that i started this project thinking that I'd get every measurement correct to the highest precision possible, because if anything every measurement on the backplate is aggressively rounded. The more backplates I inspected, the simpler the model got...

On 6/20/2022 5:18 PM, Ari via wrote:
It's an exact anatomical copy of a real k67 with all measurements and placement of everything exactly the same. FR charts and whatnot will come soon. I was actually thinking of using POM, do you have any suggestions? I was thinking POM because it's really dimensionally stable and it doesn't have a plasticizer to dry out over time

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 11:31 AM TheCanDo via <Littlebunnisith=[email protected]> wrote:
It looks nice.? What are the specs, size, frequency response?? Also, what type of plastic is it?? I have seen enough plastics become brittle over just a few years.



Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?

 

The k67 has connected backplates and so does the modern k870 in the u87 AI. The capsule only had isolated backplates for a decade or two for the original u87

That being said, yes it will, because that's most flexible. People can connect the back plates however they like for three wire builds I think

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 2:32 PM Phil Manning <phil.manning.piano@...> wrote:
Hi Ari - can I presume these capsules have the front and rear backplates isolated like in the older K67?

Phil Manning
~ classic recording studio
~piano tuning & service
Ajax studio: 905.231.3189
Pickering shop/office: 416.907.3562
cell: 905.626.3727



On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 6:04 PM Ari <soliloqueenwastaken@...> wrote:

well, caveat, these things are true in specification, but i think some adaptations were made for manufacturing, ie using 0.6mm metric bits for the thru holes

On 6/20/2022 5:50 PM, Ari via wrote:

i am fairly certain in fact that i have arrived at the original specification for this backplate sans all manufacturing variance, with a few changes like screw size etc

On 6/20/2022 5:46 PM, Ari via wrote:

so for the past few months i've been taking a scale-calibrated microscope to a few k67 samples and after averaging out all of the runout, tolerances etc have come to the conclusion that the construction is insanely simple. every single measurement on this capsule (in its specification at least) is either a whole number or a simple fraction. the grid pattern is just a 22 by 22 grid of holes 2mm apart where the holes outside the center circle are not drilled. the blind holes are 3 2/3mm deep at the point exactly (about 3.4mm deep to the barrel). the through holes are 2/3rds of a mm wide, etc. it's funny that i started this project thinking that I'd get every measurement correct to the highest precision possible, because if anything every measurement on the backplate is aggressively rounded. The more backplates I inspected, the simpler the model got...

On 6/20/2022 5:18 PM, Ari via wrote:
It's an exact anatomical copy of a real k67 with all measurements and placement of everything exactly the same. FR charts and whatnot will come soon. I was actually thinking of using POM, do you have any suggestions? I was thinking POM because it's really dimensionally stable and it doesn't have a plasticizer to dry out over time

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 11:31 AM TheCanDo via <Littlebunnisith=[email protected]> wrote:
It looks nice.? What are the specs, size, frequency response?? Also, what type of plastic is it?? I have seen enough plastics become brittle over just a few years.



Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?

 

The ring is the same thickness is on the real capsule so if it doesn't fit in a headbasket that would be weird


On Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 2:30 PM <brewinfool1@...> wrote:
One thing to consider. I had an experience this morning with an inexpensive 34mm element that added a plastic ring, It was green, a nice addition, looked nice, but when I tried to put it into the headshell, it would not go. It was too thick to Put the BM800 headstack over it. So some time with a file, I got it to fit. So consider that if it makes it thicker than stock. That part never crossed my mind.


Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?

 

Hi Ari - can I presume these capsules have the front and rear backplates isolated like in the older K67?

Phil Manning
~ classic recording studio
~piano tuning & service
Ajax studio: 905.231.3189
Pickering shop/office: 416.907.3562
cell: 905.626.3727



On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 6:04 PM Ari <soliloqueenwastaken@...> wrote:

well, caveat, these things are true in specification, but i think some adaptations were made for manufacturing, ie using 0.6mm metric bits for the thru holes

On 6/20/2022 5:50 PM, Ari via wrote:

i am fairly certain in fact that i have arrived at the original specification for this backplate sans all manufacturing variance, with a few changes like screw size etc

On 6/20/2022 5:46 PM, Ari via wrote:

so for the past few months i've been taking a scale-calibrated microscope to a few k67 samples and after averaging out all of the runout, tolerances etc have come to the conclusion that the construction is insanely simple. every single measurement on this capsule (in its specification at least) is either a whole number or a simple fraction. the grid pattern is just a 22 by 22 grid of holes 2mm apart where the holes outside the center circle are not drilled. the blind holes are 3 2/3mm deep at the point exactly (about 3.4mm deep to the barrel). the through holes are 2/3rds of a mm wide, etc. it's funny that i started this project thinking that I'd get every measurement correct to the highest precision possible, because if anything every measurement on the backplate is aggressively rounded. The more backplates I inspected, the simpler the model got...

On 6/20/2022 5:18 PM, Ari via wrote:
It's an exact anatomical copy of a real k67 with all measurements and placement of everything exactly the same. FR charts and whatnot will come soon. I was actually thinking of using POM, do you have any suggestions? I was thinking POM because it's really dimensionally stable and it doesn't have a plasticizer to dry out over time

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 11:31 AM TheCanDo via <Littlebunnisith=[email protected]> wrote:
It looks nice.? What are the specs, size, frequency response?? Also, what type of plastic is it?? I have seen enough plastics become brittle over just a few years.



Re: Would you buy a capsule if it looked like this?

 

One thing to consider. I had an experience this morning with an inexpensive 34mm element that added a plastic ring, It was green, a nice addition, looked nice, but when I tried to put it into the headshell, it would not go. It was too thick to Put the BM800 headstack over it. So some time with a file, I got it to fit. So consider that if it makes it thicker than stock. That part never crossed my mind.