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Re: saved files

 

This thread, saved files, was started at 2:33 pm October 20th, according to my history.?

You had another thread, recently opened, you started October 16. I don't see where anyone responded to it, but you didn't really ask anything but if there were updates to Mach4.?

I'd suggest if you want answers, you ask an overt question. Might work better for you. Unfortunately, I can't answer them because I don't yet have Mach in any version. Just sort of following along wondering if it would do anything I need done in the future.

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)





On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 09:27:02 PM CDT, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:


my history shows saturday or 5 days ago as i said. i believe i asked this a while ago as well.

On 10/21/2021 7:15 PM, mike allen wrote:

??? ??? you don't have to justify anything to me . Check your email history . You started this thread yesterday according to my history . Wasted enough bandwith here . Just mind your manners & we'll be fine . I'm done with this .

??? animal

On 10/21/2021 7:02 PM, spencer@... wrote:

i posted the question probably 5 days ago and maybe in the past a well. i spent a lot of time trying to figure this out myself before even posting.? i also mentioned a serious bug months ago and nothing was done about that either.

On 10/21/2021 6:40 PM, mike allen wrote:

??? ??? I'm not here to police , I'm here to learn . I just get sick of folks that start whining as soon as something doesn't go their way .

??? ??? " and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it "

??? ??? You had a problem & posted about it & then kept slamming about it for a day & never even gave the mach folks a chance to get you a answer? .

??? ??? animal

On 10/21/2021 6:23 PM, spencer@... wrote:

i don't know if you are referring to me as one of the two doing all the complaining. i was just asking for a reasonable solution. i generally find mach4 much better than 3 in many ways but would like to have it even better. there are a few annoying "features" that i would like to see improved. if asking for that is "doing all the complaining" i think you are a hypersensitive jerk.

On 10/21/2021 3:59 PM, mike allen wrote:

??? ??? My post was not aimed at you John . It was aimed at the two folks doing all the complaining? . No one is here forcing them to use Mach , but just cause someone is having a bad hair day or what
??? ??? ever is no excuse to slam the developer of the program . Brian is here occasionally to answer questions & maybe take bug reports . If you don't like the way the program was wrote them go write your own program !!
??? ??? animal


On 10/21/2021 11:41 AM, John McGovern via groups.io wrote:
Please take me out of this conversation. I've tried everything I know how to do. I was never in this topic.



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: mike allen <animal@...>
Date: 10/21/21 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

??? ??? is anyone forcing you guys to use Mach ?

??? ??? animal

On 10/21/2021 3:53 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Of course it's not a good place, as I said the Mach devs are pretty clueless about how to organise things under Windows.

Programs like Mach4 are the answer to "Why is Windows security so shit?".

Tony


On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 15:07, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:
i have never had to find the location of mru file list because most apps i have used offer the option of deleting an entry if it is not found. it is in machine.ini which does not seem like a good place.


On 10/20/2021 7:57 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

Apparently invisible on Spencers PC.

?

Someone should tell the Mach devs about how this new-fangled Windows stuff is supposed to work.? I mean it¡¯s only been about 30 years.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Wander
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 1:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:12 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

What secret?? No-one cares.

?

I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol.

?

People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving.

?

Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows.

?

Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file.

?

File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 12:52 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it.

On 10/20/2021 6:46 PM, spencer@... wrote:

right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache.

On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via wrote:

Thanks

?

?

?

Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device

?

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...>

Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that.

?

I very much doubt Mach4 does this,

?

If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list.

?

Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 09:37, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it?

On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry.

?

Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else.

?

Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed..

?

The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 06:33, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?




Re: Smoothing text

 

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vcarve may have options as to step size? with some exceptions related to trajectory planning in mach 4 i have found that mach 4 produces smoother cuts. however i think the biggest change was switching to ethernet smooth stepper.

also you need to control chip load by varying motion speed and tool speed.? also need to be sure both the material hold down and the machine in general are rigid. different woods are different and cut differently. some wood is especially difficult to cut smoothly due to variations in hardness and grain.

also tool quality is very important. i get much smoother cuts with high quality US made tools such as Eastside

On 10/21/2021 7:35 PM, John McGovern via groups.io wrote:

Hey let me ask yall a question. Does mach3 have anything to do with the smoothness of a cut. I just cut some letters and they are ragged looking. I'm using VCarve Pro. Is the vcarve the place I should be looking instead.

Attachments:


Re: Smoothing text

 

look into Vcarve (smaller bit or larger spaced text) since the pictures show the bit wouldn't fit in a couple of thos areas. but you'll also have to look at your machine since pic 2 and 3 shows lost position on the lower level cut.


On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 10:35:58 PM EDT, John McGovern via groups.io <jpmreno@...> wrote:


Hey let me ask yall a question. Does mach3 have anything to do with the smoothness of a cut. I just cut some letters and they are ragged looking. I'm using VCarve Pro. Is the vcarve the place I should be looking instead.

Attachments:


Smoothing text

John McGovern
 

Hey let me ask yall a question. Does mach3 have anything to do with the smoothness of a cut. I just cut some letters and they are ragged looking. I'm using VCarve Pro. Is the vcarve the place I should be looking instead.


Re: saved files

 

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my history shows saturday or 5 days ago as i said. i believe i asked this a while ago as well.

On 10/21/2021 7:15 PM, mike allen wrote:

??? ??? you don't have to justify anything to me . Check your email history . You started this thread yesterday according to my history . Wasted enough bandwith here . Just mind your manners & we'll be fine . I'm done with this .

??? animal

On 10/21/2021 7:02 PM, spencer@... wrote:

i posted the question probably 5 days ago and maybe in the past a well. i spent a lot of time trying to figure this out myself before even posting.? i also mentioned a serious bug months ago and nothing was done about that either.

On 10/21/2021 6:40 PM, mike allen wrote:

??? ??? I'm not here to police , I'm here to learn . I just get sick of folks that start whining as soon as something doesn't go their way .

??? ??? " and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it "

??? ??? You had a problem & posted about it & then kept slamming about it for a day & never even gave the mach folks a chance to get you a answer? .

??? ??? animal

On 10/21/2021 6:23 PM, spencer@... wrote:

i don't know if you are referring to me as one of the two doing all the complaining. i was just asking for a reasonable solution. i generally find mach4 much better than 3 in many ways but would like to have it even better. there are a few annoying "features" that i would like to see improved. if asking for that is "doing all the complaining" i think you are a hypersensitive jerk.

On 10/21/2021 3:59 PM, mike allen wrote:

??? ??? My post was not aimed at you John . It was aimed at the two folks doing all the complaining? . No one is here forcing them to use Mach , but just cause someone is having a bad hair day or what
??? ??? ever is no excuse to slam the developer of the program . Brian is here occasionally to answer questions & maybe take bug reports . If you don't like the way the program was wrote them go write your own program !!
??? ??? animal


On 10/21/2021 11:41 AM, John McGovern via groups.io wrote:
Please take me out of this conversation. I've tried everything I know how to do. I was never in this topic.



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: mike allen <animal@...>
Date: 10/21/21 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

??? ??? is anyone forcing you guys to use Mach ?

??? ??? animal

On 10/21/2021 3:53 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Of course it's not a good place, as I said the Mach devs are pretty clueless about how to organise things under Windows.

Programs like Mach4 are the answer to "Why is Windows security so shit?".

Tony


On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 15:07, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:
i have never had to find the location of mru file list because most apps i have used offer the option of deleting an entry if it is not found. it is in machine.ini which does not seem like a good place.


On 10/20/2021 7:57 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

Apparently invisible on Spencers PC.

?

Someone should tell the Mach devs about how this new-fangled Windows stuff is supposed to work.? I mean it¡¯s only been about 30 years.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Wander
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 1:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:12 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

What secret?? No-one cares.

?

I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol.

?

People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving.

?

Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows.

?

Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file.

?

File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 12:52 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it.

On 10/20/2021 6:46 PM, spencer@... wrote:

right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache.

On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via wrote:

Thanks

?

?

?

Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device

?

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...>

Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that.

?

I very much doubt Mach4 does this,

?

If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list.

?

Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 09:37, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it?

On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry.

?

Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else.

?

Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed..

?

The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 06:33, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?




Re: saved files

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

??? ??? you don't have to justify anything to me . Check your email history . You started this thread yesterday according to my history . Wasted enough bandwith here . Just mind your manners & we'll be fine . I'm done with this .

??? animal

On 10/21/2021 7:02 PM, spencer@... wrote:

i posted the question probably 5 days ago and maybe in the past a well. i spent a lot of time trying to figure this out myself before even posting.? i also mentioned a serious bug months ago and nothing was done about that either.

On 10/21/2021 6:40 PM, mike allen wrote:

??? ??? I'm not here to police , I'm here to learn . I just get sick of folks that start whining as soon as something doesn't go their way .

??? ??? " and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it "

??? ??? You had a problem & posted about it & then kept slamming about it for a day & never even gave the mach folks a chance to get you a answer? .

??? ??? animal

On 10/21/2021 6:23 PM, spencer@... wrote:

i don't know if you are referring to me as one of the two doing all the complaining. i was just asking for a reasonable solution. i generally find mach4 much better than 3 in many ways but would like to have it even better. there are a few annoying "features" that i would like to see improved. if asking for that is "doing all the complaining" i think you are a hypersensitive jerk.

On 10/21/2021 3:59 PM, mike allen wrote:

??? ??? My post was not aimed at you John . It was aimed at the two folks doing all the complaining? . No one is here forcing them to use Mach , but just cause someone is having a bad hair day or what
??? ??? ever is no excuse to slam the developer of the program . Brian is here occasionally to answer questions & maybe take bug reports . If you don't like the way the program was wrote them go write your own program !!
??? ??? animal


On 10/21/2021 11:41 AM, John McGovern via groups.io wrote:
Please take me out of this conversation. I've tried everything I know how to do. I was never in this topic.



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: mike allen <animal@...>
Date: 10/21/21 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

??? ??? is anyone forcing you guys to use Mach ?

??? ??? animal

On 10/21/2021 3:53 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Of course it's not a good place, as I said the Mach devs are pretty clueless about how to organise things under Windows.

Programs like Mach4 are the answer to "Why is Windows security so shit?".

Tony


On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 15:07, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:
i have never had to find the location of mru file list because most apps i have used offer the option of deleting an entry if it is not found. it is in machine.ini which does not seem like a good place.


On 10/20/2021 7:57 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

Apparently invisible on Spencers PC.

?

Someone should tell the Mach devs about how this new-fangled Windows stuff is supposed to work.? I mean it¡¯s only been about 30 years.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Wander
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 1:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:12 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

What secret?? No-one cares.

?

I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol.

?

People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving.

?

Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows.

?

Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file.

?

File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 12:52 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it.

On 10/20/2021 6:46 PM, spencer@... wrote:

right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache.

On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via wrote:

Thanks

?

?

?

Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device

?

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...>

Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that.

?

I very much doubt Mach4 does this,

?

If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list.

?

Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 09:37, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it?

On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry.

?

Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else.

?

Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed..

?

The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 06:33, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?




Re: saved files

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

i posted the question probably 5 days ago and maybe in the past a well. i spent a lot of time trying to figure this out myself before even posting.? i also mentioned a serious bug months ago and nothing was done about that either.

On 10/21/2021 6:40 PM, mike allen wrote:

??? ??? I'm not here to police , I'm here to learn . I just get sick of folks that start whining as soon as something doesn't go their way .

??? ??? " and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it "

??? ??? You had a problem & posted about it & then kept slamming about it for a day & never even gave the mach folks a chance to get you a answer? .

??? ??? animal

On 10/21/2021 6:23 PM, spencer@... wrote:

i don't know if you are referring to me as one of the two doing all the complaining. i was just asking for a reasonable solution. i generally find mach4 much better than 3 in many ways but would like to have it even better. there are a few annoying "features" that i would like to see improved. if asking for that is "doing all the complaining" i think you are a hypersensitive jerk.

On 10/21/2021 3:59 PM, mike allen wrote:

??? ??? My post was not aimed at you John . It was aimed at the two folks doing all the complaining? . No one is here forcing them to use Mach , but just cause someone is having a bad hair day or what
??? ??? ever is no excuse to slam the developer of the program . Brian is here occasionally to answer questions & maybe take bug reports . If you don't like the way the program was wrote them go write your own program !!
??? ??? animal


On 10/21/2021 11:41 AM, John McGovern via groups.io wrote:
Please take me out of this conversation. I've tried everything I know how to do. I was never in this topic.



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: mike allen <animal@...>
Date: 10/21/21 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

??? ??? is anyone forcing you guys to use Mach ?

??? ??? animal

On 10/21/2021 3:53 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Of course it's not a good place, as I said the Mach devs are pretty clueless about how to organise things under Windows.

Programs like Mach4 are the answer to "Why is Windows security so shit?".

Tony


On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 15:07, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:
i have never had to find the location of mru file list because most apps i have used offer the option of deleting an entry if it is not found. it is in machine.ini which does not seem like a good place.


On 10/20/2021 7:57 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

Apparently invisible on Spencers PC.

?

Someone should tell the Mach devs about how this new-fangled Windows stuff is supposed to work.? I mean it¡¯s only been about 30 years.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Wander
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 1:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:12 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

What secret?? No-one cares.

?

I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol.

?

People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving.

?

Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows.

?

Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file.

?

File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 12:52 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it.

On 10/20/2021 6:46 PM, spencer@... wrote:

right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache.

On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via wrote:

Thanks

?

?

?

Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device

?

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...>

Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that.

?

I very much doubt Mach4 does this,

?

If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list.

?

Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 09:37, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it?

On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry.

?

Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else.

?

Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed..

?

The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 06:33, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?




Re: saved files

 

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??? ??? I'm not here to police , I'm here to learn . I just get sick of folks that start whining as soon as something doesn't go their way .

??? ??? " and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it "

??? ??? You had a problem & posted about it & then kept slamming about it for a day & never even gave the mach folks a chance to get you a answer? .

??? ??? animal

On 10/21/2021 6:23 PM, spencer@... wrote:

i don't know if you are referring to me as one of the two doing all the complaining. i was just asking for a reasonable solution. i generally find mach4 much better than 3 in many ways but would like to have it even better. there are a few annoying "features" that i would like to see improved. if asking for that is "doing all the complaining" i think you are a hypersensitive jerk.

On 10/21/2021 3:59 PM, mike allen wrote:

??? ??? My post was not aimed at you John . It was aimed at the two folks doing all the complaining? . No one is here forcing them to use Mach , but just cause someone is having a bad hair day or what
??? ??? ever is no excuse to slam the developer of the program . Brian is here occasionally to answer questions & maybe take bug reports . If you don't like the way the program was wrote them go write your own program !!
??? ??? animal


On 10/21/2021 11:41 AM, John McGovern via groups.io wrote:
Please take me out of this conversation. I've tried everything I know how to do. I was never in this topic.



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: mike allen <animal@...>
Date: 10/21/21 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

??? ??? is anyone forcing you guys to use Mach ?

??? ??? animal

On 10/21/2021 3:53 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Of course it's not a good place, as I said the Mach devs are pretty clueless about how to organise things under Windows.

Programs like Mach4 are the answer to "Why is Windows security so shit?".

Tony


On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 15:07, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:
i have never had to find the location of mru file list because most apps i have used offer the option of deleting an entry if it is not found. it is in machine.ini which does not seem like a good place.


On 10/20/2021 7:57 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

Apparently invisible on Spencers PC.

?

Someone should tell the Mach devs about how this new-fangled Windows stuff is supposed to work.? I mean it¡¯s only been about 30 years.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Wander
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 1:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:12 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

What secret?? No-one cares.

?

I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol.

?

People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving.

?

Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows.

?

Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file.

?

File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 12:52 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it.

On 10/20/2021 6:46 PM, spencer@... wrote:

right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache.

On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via wrote:

Thanks

?

?

?

Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device

?

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...>

Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that.

?

I very much doubt Mach4 does this,

?

If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list.

?

Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 09:37, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it?

On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry.

?

Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else.

?

Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed..

?

The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 06:33, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?




Re: saved files

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

i don't know if you are referring to me as one of the two doing all the complaining. i was just asking for a reasonable solution. i generally find mach4 much better than 3 in many ways but would like to have it even better. there are a few annoying "features" that i would like to see improved. if asking for that is "doing all the complaining" i think you are a hypersensitive jerk.

On 10/21/2021 3:59 PM, mike allen wrote:


??? ??? My post was not aimed at you John . It was aimed at the two folks doing all the complaining? . No one is here forcing them to use Mach , but just cause someone is having a bad hair day or what
??? ??? ever is no excuse to slam the developer of the program . Brian is here occasionally to answer questions & maybe take bug reports . If you don't like the way the program was wrote them go write your own program !!
??? ??? animal


On 10/21/2021 11:41 AM, John McGovern via groups.io wrote:
Please take me out of this conversation. I've tried everything I know how to do. I was never in this topic.



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: mike allen <animal@...>
Date: 10/21/21 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

??? ??? is anyone forcing you guys to use Mach ?

??? ??? animal

On 10/21/2021 3:53 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Of course it's not a good place, as I said the Mach devs are pretty clueless about how to organise things under Windows.

Programs like Mach4 are the answer to "Why is Windows security so shit?".

Tony


On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 15:07, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:
i have never had to find the location of mru file list because most apps i have used offer the option of deleting an entry if it is not found. it is in machine.ini which does not seem like a good place.


On 10/20/2021 7:57 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

Apparently invisible on Spencers PC.

?

Someone should tell the Mach devs about how this new-fangled Windows stuff is supposed to work.? I mean it¡¯s only been about 30 years.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Wander
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 1:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:12 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

What secret?? No-one cares.

?

I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol.

?

People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving.

?

Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows.

?

Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file.

?

File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 12:52 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it.

On 10/20/2021 6:46 PM, spencer@... wrote:

right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache.

On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via wrote:

Thanks

?

?

?

Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device

?

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...>

Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that.

?

I very much doubt Mach4 does this,

?

If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list.

?

Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 09:37, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it?

On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry.

?

Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else.

?

Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed..

?

The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 06:33, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?




Re: saved files

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Tkx Bill
I¡¯m out¡¯a here too!



On Oct 21, 2021, at 13:46, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:

?
At the bottom of this email, there is a highlighted line that says "Mute This Topic." Click on that, and it should stop you from receiving any more posts on this topic.

HTH!

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)




On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 01:41:36 PM CDT, John McGovern via groups.io <jpmreno@...> wrote:


Please take me out of this conversation. I've tried everything I know how to do. I was never in this topic.



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: mike allen <animal@...>
Date: 10/21/21 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

??? ??? is anyone forcing you guys to use Mach ?

??? ??? animal

On 10/21/2021 3:53 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Of course it's not a good place, as I said the Mach devs are pretty clueless about how to organise things under Windows.

Programs like Mach4 are the answer to "Why is Windows security so shit?".

Tony


On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 15:07, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:
i have never had to find the location of mru file list because most apps i have used offer the option of deleting an entry if it is not found. it is in machine.ini which does not seem like a good place.


On 10/20/2021 7:57 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

Apparently invisible on Spencers PC.

?

Someone should tell the Mach devs about how this new-fangled Windows stuff is supposed to work.? I mean it¡¯s only been about 30 years.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Wander
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 1:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:12 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

What secret?? No-one cares.

?

I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol.

?

People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving.

?

Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows.

?

Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file.

?

File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 12:52 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it.

On 10/20/2021 6:46 PM, spencer@... wrote:

right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache.

On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via wrote:

Thanks

?

?

?

Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device

?

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...>

Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that.

?

I very much doubt Mach4 does this,

?

If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list.

?

Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 09:37, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it?

On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry.

?

Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else.

?

Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed..

?

The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 06:33, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?




Re: Mach3 Tool Setter macro

 

Disregard my post. I figured out what the problem was and solved it.
Dan


Re: saved files

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

??? ??? Thank you? ptegler

??? ??? animal

On 10/21/2021 12:12 PM, ptegler wrote:

...have to wonder if your not even using MACHx any longer why stay here and add little to the conversations? (only trash the asset)

I have well over 1,000 runtime hrs under MACH3 on my big a__ router table and Lathe/mill (combined time)
Yes I've written many macros and redesigned some screens. I've never had a crash or issue with any machine.
..am still running under XP even. All hardware is cobbled home brew and works as expected.

As to the old files.... If you are clueless to Win ops...yes perhaps convoluted. But not an issue with a little google look up.

ptegler

On 10/21/2021 12:14 AM, spencer@... wrote:

what do you use instead of mach?

On 10/20/2021 8:08 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

I no longer even run Mach3, didn¡¯t care much for Mach4.

?

Even then I had a fair idea of where it would be, but apparently you needed spoon feeding rather than ¡°either registry or file in Mach4 folder¡±.

?

Ah well.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 1:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

thanks for someone finally answering this.

On 10/20/2021 7:23 PM, Andy Wander wrote:

It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

What secret?? No-one cares.

?

I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol.

?

People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving.

?

Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows.

?

Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file.

?

File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 12:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it.

On 10/20/2021 6:46 PM, spencer@... wrote:

right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache.

On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via groups.io wrote:

Thanks

?

?

?

Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device

?

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...>

Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that.

?

I very much doubt Mach4 does this,

?

If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list.

?

Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 09:37, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it?

On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry.

?

Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else.

?

Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed..

?

The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 06:33, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?






Re: saved files

 

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??? ??? My post was not aimed at you John . It was aimed at the two folks doing all the complaining? . No one is here forcing them to use Mach , but just cause someone is having a bad hair day or what
??? ??? ever is no excuse to slam the developer of the program . Brian is here occasionally to answer questions & maybe take bug reports . If you don't like the way the program was wrote them go write your own program !!
??? ??? animal


On 10/21/2021 11:41 AM, John McGovern via groups.io wrote:

Please take me out of this conversation. I've tried everything I know how to do. I was never in this topic.



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: mike allen <animal@...>
Date: 10/21/21 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

??? ??? is anyone forcing you guys to use Mach ?

??? ??? animal

On 10/21/2021 3:53 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Of course it's not a good place, as I said the Mach devs are pretty clueless about how to organise things under Windows.

Programs like Mach4 are the answer to "Why is Windows security so shit?".

Tony


On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 15:07, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:
i have never had to find the location of mru file list because most apps i have used offer the option of deleting an entry if it is not found. it is in machine.ini which does not seem like a good place.


On 10/20/2021 7:57 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

Apparently invisible on Spencers PC.

?

Someone should tell the Mach devs about how this new-fangled Windows stuff is supposed to work.? I mean it¡¯s only been about 30 years.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Wander
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 1:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:12 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

What secret?? No-one cares.

?

I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol.

?

People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving.

?

Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows.

?

Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file.

?

File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 12:52 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it.

On 10/20/2021 6:46 PM, spencer@... wrote:

right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache.

On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via wrote:

Thanks

?

?

?

Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device

?

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...>

Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that.

?

I very much doubt Mach4 does this,

?

If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list.

?

Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 09:37, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it?

On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry.

?

Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else.

?

Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed..

?

The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 06:33, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?




Mach3 Tool Setter macro

 

?For some probably dumb reason in my HiddenScriptm1s file i can't get it to raise the Z axis after contact with the tool setter probe. I have the correct G code and the correct setting of Z .5? to it should raise buy instead lowers . Anybody have a good working copy of hiddenscript?
Dan Mauch


Re: saved files

 

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At least Tony answered the OP, with some pretty good info.

?

This site is pretty much useless at getting any info from the Mach folks-Brian drops by occasionally, but even that is not consistent.

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of ptegler
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 3:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

...have to wonder if your not even using MACHx any longer why stay here and add little to the conversations? (only trash the asset)

I have well over 1,000 runtime hrs under MACH3 on my big a__ router table and Lathe/mill (combined time)
Yes I've written many macros and redesigned some screens. I've never had a crash or issue with any machine.
..am still running under XP even. All hardware is cobbled home brew and works as expected.

As to the old files.... If you are clueless to Win ops...yes perhaps convoluted. But not an issue with a little google look up.

ptegler

On 10/21/2021 12:14 AM, spencer@... wrote:

what do you use instead of mach?

On 10/20/2021 8:08 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

I no longer even run Mach3, didn¡¯t care much for Mach4.

?

Even then I had a fair idea of where it would be, but apparently you needed spoon feeding rather than ¡°either registry or file in Mach4 folder¡±.

?

Ah well.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 1:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

thanks for someone finally answering this.

On 10/20/2021 7:23 PM, Andy Wander wrote:

It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

What secret?? No-one cares.

?

I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol.

?

People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving.

?

Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows.

?

Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file.

?

File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 12:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it.

On 10/20/2021 6:46 PM, spencer@... wrote:

right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache.

On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via groups.io wrote:

Thanks

?

?

?

Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device

?

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...>

Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that.

?

I very much doubt Mach4 does this,

?

If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list.

?

Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 09:37, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it?

On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry.

?

Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else.

?

Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed..

?

The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 06:33, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?







Re: saved files

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

...have to wonder if your not even using MACHx any longer why stay here and add little to the conversations? (only trash the asset)

I have well over 1,000 runtime hrs under MACH3 on my big a__ router table and Lathe/mill (combined time)
Yes I've written many macros and redesigned some screens. I've never had a crash or issue with any machine.
..am still running under XP even. All hardware is cobbled home brew and works as expected.

As to the old files.... If you are clueless to Win ops...yes perhaps convoluted. But not an issue with a little google look up.

ptegler

On 10/21/2021 12:14 AM, spencer@... wrote:

what do you use instead of mach?

On 10/20/2021 8:08 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

I no longer even run Mach3, didn¡¯t care much for Mach4.

?

Even then I had a fair idea of where it would be, but apparently you needed spoon feeding rather than ¡°either registry or file in Mach4 folder¡±.

?

Ah well.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 1:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

thanks for someone finally answering this.

On 10/20/2021 7:23 PM, Andy Wander wrote:

It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

What secret?? No-one cares.

?

I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol.

?

People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving.

?

Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows.

?

Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file.

?

File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 12:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it.

On 10/20/2021 6:46 PM, spencer@... wrote:

right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache.

On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via groups.io wrote:

Thanks

?

?

?

Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device

?

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...>

Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that.

?

I very much doubt Mach4 does this,

?

If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list.

?

Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 09:37, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it?

On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry.

?

Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else.

?

Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed..

?

The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 06:33, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?






Re: saved files

 

At the bottom of this email, there is a highlighted line that says "Mute This Topic." Click on that, and it should stop you from receiving any more posts on this topic.

HTH!

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


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butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
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On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 01:41:36 PM CDT, John McGovern via groups.io <jpmreno@...> wrote:


Please take me out of this conversation. I've tried everything I know how to do. I was never in this topic.



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: mike allen <animal@...>
Date: 10/21/21 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

??? ??? is anyone forcing you guys to use Mach ?

??? ??? animal

On 10/21/2021 3:53 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Of course it's not a good place, as I said the Mach devs are pretty clueless about how to organise things under Windows.

Programs like Mach4 are the answer to "Why is Windows security so shit?".

Tony


On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 15:07, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:
i have never had to find the location of mru file list because most apps i have used offer the option of deleting an entry if it is not found. it is in machine.ini which does not seem like a good place.


On 10/20/2021 7:57 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

Apparently invisible on Spencers PC.

?

Someone should tell the Mach devs about how this new-fangled Windows stuff is supposed to work.? I mean it¡¯s only been about 30 years.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Wander
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 1:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:12 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

What secret?? No-one cares.

?

I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol.

?

People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving.

?

Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows.

?

Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file.

?

File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 12:52 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it.

On 10/20/2021 6:46 PM, spencer@... wrote:

right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache.

On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via wrote:

Thanks

?

?

?

Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device

?

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...>

Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that.

?

I very much doubt Mach4 does this,

?

If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list.

?

Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 09:37, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it?

On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry.

?

Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else.

?

Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed..

?

The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 06:33, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?




Re: saved files

John McGovern
 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Please take me out of this conversation. I've tried everything I know how to do. I was never in this topic.



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: mike allen <animal@...>
Date: 10/21/21 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

??? ??? is anyone forcing you guys to use Mach ?

??? ??? animal

On 10/21/2021 3:53 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Of course it's not a good place, as I said the Mach devs are pretty clueless about how to organise things under Windows.

Programs like Mach4 are the answer to "Why is Windows security so shit?".

Tony


On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 15:07, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:
i have never had to find the location of mru file list because most apps i have used offer the option of deleting an entry if it is not found. it is in machine.ini which does not seem like a good place.


On 10/20/2021 7:57 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

Apparently invisible on Spencers PC.

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Someone should tell the Mach devs about how this new-fangled Windows stuff is supposed to work.? I mean it¡¯s only been about 30 years.

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Tony

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Wander
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 1:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

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It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:12 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

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What secret?? No-one cares.

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I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol.

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People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving.

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Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows.

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Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file.

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File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway.

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Tony

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 12:52 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

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and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it.

On 10/20/2021 6:46 PM, spencer@... wrote:

right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache.

On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via wrote:

Thanks

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Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device

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-------- Original message --------

From: Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...>

Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

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I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that.

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I very much doubt Mach4 does this,

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If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list.

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Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'.

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Tony

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On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 09:37, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it?

On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry.

?

Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else.

?

Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed..

?

The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common.

?

Tony

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On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 06:33, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?




Re: saved files

 

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??? ??? is anyone forcing you guys to use Mach ?

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On 10/21/2021 3:53 AM, Tony Smith wrote:

Of course it's not a good place, as I said the Mach devs are pretty clueless about how to organise things under Windows.

Programs like Mach4 are the answer to "Why is Windows security so shit?".

Tony


On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 15:07, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:
i have never had to find the location of mru file list because most apps i have used offer the option of deleting an entry if it is not found. it is in machine.ini which does not seem like a good place.


On 10/20/2021 7:57 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

Apparently invisible on Spencers PC.

?

Someone should tell the Mach devs about how this new-fangled Windows stuff is supposed to work.? I mean it¡¯s only been about 30 years.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Wander
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 1:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:12 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

What secret?? No-one cares.

?

I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol.

?

People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving.

?

Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows.

?

Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file.

?

File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 12:52 PM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it.

On 10/20/2021 6:46 PM, spencer@... wrote:

right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache.

On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via wrote:

Thanks

?

?

?

Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device

?

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...>

Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that.

?

I very much doubt Mach4 does this,

?

If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list.

?

Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 09:37, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it?

On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry.

?

Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else.

?

Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed..

?

The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 06:33, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?




Re: saved files

 

Dedicated controls, they're pretty cheap these days.? Toss a bit of gcode at them and off they go, I'm tired of dicking about with PCs.

Mostly SmoothieBoards, they'll run a mill/router, laser, 3D printer & lathe without too much hassle.? A couple of the lasers still have the original DSP controllers, too lazy to change them.

There's a cheap Chinese one people seem to like for mills/routers that I might get one of these days.

Tony

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 15:14, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

what do you use instead of mach?

On 10/20/2021 8:08 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

I no longer even run Mach3, didn¡¯t care much for Mach4.

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Even then I had a fair idea of where it would be, but apparently you needed spoon feeding rather than ¡°either registry or file in Mach4 folder¡±.

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Ah well.

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Tony

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 1:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

thanks for someone finally answering this.

On 10/20/2021 7:23 PM, Andy Wander wrote:

It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

What secret?? No-one cares.

?

I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol.

?

People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving.

?

Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows.

?

Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file.

?

File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 12:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it.

On 10/20/2021 6:46 PM, spencer@... wrote:

right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache.

On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via wrote:

Thanks

?

?

?

Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device

?

?

-------- Original message --------

From: Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...>

Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files

?

I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that.

?

I very much doubt Mach4 does this,

?

If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list.

?

Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 09:37, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it?

On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry.

?

Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else.

?

Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed..

?

The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common.

?

Tony

?

?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 06:33, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?