Re: Friday Five October 25
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Well said!
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I can agree with that statement, Celeste, as it is formatted as verifiable and objectively present-moment. Your reference to "...discriminated against and haven't had the same advantages as others..." would, in my mind, address people alive now?who are being treated in a manner at odds with my values.?
?
Not only people...this past week we rescued a small dog shivering in the mountain cold at a state park in New Mexico. I do not condemn all campers using the campground nor do I assess whether?society at large should be condemned?for animal abuse since I do not know if all members of society were involved in losing or abandoning the pup. I simply rescued?the critter?and did what I consider proper (he is safely with a protective advocate now.)
?
I am a Caucasian?middle class male U.S. citizen. I use the male pronouns I was taught apply to me in grade school English classes. I feel protective of women and children (and lost puppies!), and I try to respect those around?me. Even other drivers!? Despite all this, I do not consider myself as advantaged. I grew up very poor in a backwoods rural?community with social anxiety, bullying?and the strike of being from "the wrong side of the tracks." For the most part, I have earned any positive changes I benefit from, although?I acknowledge having help from others (including social breaks) whenever such benefited me.?
?
I did not get any free rides due to my disadvantages, nor do I expect to be lifted up or reimbursed by the descendants of any who abused my ancestors--those people currently breathing were not part of those historical stories. This is an accepted fact in a culture where time travel?or common extreme longevity are not likely truths. Basically, I deal with today and do not try to atone?for the sins of my ancestors.
?
I agree that it is likely that many citizens, regardless of belonging to groups noted for historic mistreatment, have the potential to become successful entrepreneurs. Hell, I did it in software despite?not initially believing?I could succeed at such a lofty ambition. I am fine with supporting an entrepreneur if I can and approve of society stimulating such resources for the benefit of all. I simply think we need to be aware that there is (in my judgement) an ongoing effort to twist the story of historic treatment into a manipulative and demonstrably logically invalid behavioral lever of guilt.
?
With all respect, I never mistreated anyone in the 1700's or 1800's and therefore, if the figurative and generic 'you' want my support for some modern-day effort, you had better use a more clearly and rationally expressed argument than that of emphasizing my nonexistent complicity with whatever trials your ancestors went through!
?
Thank you for the sensible discussion, Celeste!
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D
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On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 10:46?PM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
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Darrell,
I don't feel guilty about their mistreatment either. I just don't understand why anyone would be against helping those who have been discriminated against and haven't had the same advantages as others. Africans who were brought to America suffered a lot of loss and then weren't allowed to even try to make up for it. I think there were plenty around who would have liked to become entrepreneurs.
Aloha,
Celeste
?
On 10/26/2024 12:59 PM, Darrell King wrote:
I believe you mean to say you are in favor of helping the descendants?of people who were mistreated in the U.S. before your parents arrived, Celeste. Therein lies my quibble: we have been conditioned to ignore this distinction as though I was port?of that mistreatment. I was not and I hope that even if I had been alive and adult back in that day, I would?not have contributed to mistreatment.
?
I often help people on an individual basis. I share frequently when able. This?is not out of any sense of guilt or responsibility?related to the behaviors of my social?or biological ancestors, however, but rather?originates on my personal?values on the subject. I admit to feeling a little put out when somebody insists I owe?some person or group because some predecessor?acted a certain way. Even if I disapprove of some historical behavior, such as the treatment uf North American indigenous people by European immigrants, I am still not personally liable for those immigrants' behaviors.
Doesn't mean I am against helping them or anyone. Just means that?rationally I may deal with the fallout (karma?) from history but I do not feel guilty about someone else's actions!
?
D
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On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 11:56?AM Celeste wrote:
Darrell,
Your response sounds incredibly bigoted. My ancestors weren't even in the U.S. until the 20th century and I'm still in favor of helping peoples who were mistreated in the U.S. before they arrived. And, of course, that includes the indigenous peoples. You, however, I am disappointed in.
?
On 10/26/2024 7:27 AM, Darrell King wrote:
And Darrell wondered: I am curious how many eligible?black entrepreneurs were around during the "slavery and discrimination eras" to lose time thusly??
?
Sorry, Celeste! It is a pet peeve of mine that the sins of the fathers?are carried to the sons! While I do believe in continuous improvement?on a social level, I consider myself as bearing absolutely no personal responsibility for any alleged sins my forefathers may have been involved?in! I certainly do not oppose?entrepreneurism in any group and so I am wary of this constant effort to make amends?for those sins to a generation that had no exposure to said sins.
?
I suppose social assistance for deserving entrepreneurs no matter ethnicity or other social factors. Base such support?on the validity and value of the business plan, sure. I suppose I lean rightward on the idea that I should make up for the idea that a given population deserves to be lifted out of their woes simply because of historical mistreatment?of a population with similarities. I try to treat people decently as part of my personal morality, but I am not responsible for how others have treated people.
?
Having vented all that, I would support forgivable loans for ideas assessed solely?on their business plans and ongoing monitoring of their use without consideration of ethnicity or similar?'disadvantaged' factoring..?
?
Celeste Answered to?Is Harris's offer of forgivable $20,000 loans to black men the equivalent of shiny beads to Indians??with "No, not in any way. It's for black entrepreneurs. It gives them a chance to make up for lost time during the slavery and discrimination eras."
?
?
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Re: Friday Five October 25
I can agree with that statement, Celeste, as it is formatted as verifiable and objectively present-moment. Your reference to "...discriminated against and haven't had the same advantages as others..." would, in my mind, address people alive now?who are being treated in a manner at odds with my values.?
Not only people...this past week we rescued a small dog shivering in the mountain cold at a state park in New Mexico. I do not condemn all campers using the campground nor do I assess whether?society at large should be condemned?for animal abuse since I do not know if all members of society were involved in losing or abandoning the pup. I simply rescued?the critter?and did what I consider proper (he is safely with a protective advocate now.)
I am a Caucasian?middle class male U.S. citizen. I use the male pronouns I was taught apply to me in grade school English classes. I feel protective of women and children (and lost puppies!), and I try to respect those around?me. Even other drivers!? Despite all this, I do not consider myself as advantaged. I grew up very poor in a backwoods rural?community with social anxiety, bullying?and the strike of being from "the wrong side of the tracks." For the most part, I have earned any positive changes I benefit from, although?I acknowledge having help from others (including social breaks) whenever such benefited me.?
I did not get any free rides due to my disadvantages, nor do I expect to be lifted up or reimbursed by the descendants of any who abused my ancestors--those people currently breathing were not part of those historical stories. This is an accepted fact in a culture where time travel?or common extreme longevity are not likely truths. Basically, I deal with today and do not try to atone?for the sins of my ancestors.
I agree that it is likely that many citizens, regardless of belonging to groups noted for historic mistreatment, have the potential to become successful entrepreneurs. Hell, I did it in software despite?not initially believing?I could succeed at such a lofty ambition. I am fine with supporting an entrepreneur if I can and approve of society stimulating such resources for the benefit of all. I simply think we need to be aware that there is (in my judgement) an ongoing effort to twist the story of historic treatment into a manipulative and demonstrably logically invalid behavioral lever of guilt.
With all respect, I never mistreated anyone in the 1700's or 1800's and therefore, if the figurative and generic 'you' want my support for some modern-day effort, you had better use a more clearly and rationally expressed argument than that of emphasizing my nonexistent complicity with whatever trials your ancestors went through!
Thank you for the sensible discussion, Celeste!
D
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On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 10:46?PM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
Darrell,
I don't feel guilty about their mistreatment either. I just don't
understand why anyone would be against helping those who have been
discriminated against and haven't had the same advantages as
others. Africans who were brought to America suffered a lot of
loss and then weren't allowed to even try to make up for it. I
think there were plenty around who would have liked to become
entrepreneurs.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 10/26/2024 12:59 PM, Darrell King
wrote:
I believe you mean
to say you are in favor of helping the descendants?of
people who were mistreated in the U.S. before your
parents arrived, Celeste. Therein lies my quibble: we
have been conditioned to ignore this distinction as
though I was port?of that mistreatment. I was not and
I hope that even if I had been alive and adult back in
that day, I would?not have contributed to
mistreatment.
I often help people
on an individual basis. I share frequently when able.
This?is not out of any sense of guilt or
responsibility?related to the behaviors of my
social?or biological ancestors, however, but
rather?originates on my personal?values on the
subject. I admit to feeling a little put out when
somebody insists I owe?some person or group
because some predecessor?acted a certain way. Even if
I disapprove of some historical behavior, such as the
treatment uf North American indigenous people by
European immigrants, I am still not personally liable
for those immigrants' behaviors.
Doesn't mean I am against helping them or anyone. Just
means that?rationally I may deal with the fallout
(karma?) from history but I do not feel guilty about
someone else's actions!
D
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at
11:56?AM Celeste wrote:
Darrell,
Your response sounds incredibly bigoted. My ancestors
weren't even in the U.S. until the 20th century and I'm
still in favor of helping peoples who were mistreated in
the U.S. before they arrived. And, of course, that
includes the indigenous peoples. You, however, I am
disappointed in.
On 10/26/2024 7:27 AM, Darrell King wrote:
And
Darrell wondered: I am curious
how many eligible?black entrepreneurs
were around during the "slavery
and discrimination eras" to lose time
thusly??
Sorry,
Celeste! It is a pet peeve of mine that
the sins of the fathers?are carried to the
sons! While I do believe in continuous
improvement?on a social level, I consider
myself as bearing absolutely no personal
responsibility for any alleged sins my
forefathers may have been involved?in! I
certainly do not oppose?entrepreneurism in
any group and so I am wary of this
constant effort to make amends?for those
sins to a generation that had no exposure
to said sins.
I
suppose social assistance for deserving
entrepreneurs no matter ethnicity or
other social factors. Base such
support?on the validity and value of the
business plan, sure. I suppose I lean
rightward on the idea that I should make
up for the idea that a given population
deserves to be lifted out of their woes
simply because of historical
mistreatment?of a population with
similarities. I try to treat people
decently as part of my personal
morality, but I am not responsible for
how others have treated people.
Having
vented all that, I would support
forgivable loans for ideas assessed
solely?on their business plans and ongoing
monitoring of their use without
consideration of ethnicity or
similar?'disadvantaged' factoring..?
Celeste
Answered to?Is
Harris's offer of forgivable $20,000
loans to black men the equivalent of
shiny beads to Indians??with "No,
not in any way. It's for black
entrepreneurs. It gives them a chance to
make up for lost time during the slavery
and discrimination eras."
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Re: Friday Five October 25
Celeste, if it's not about emotional guilt bathing, I don't see how you can believe it's sensible, wise, or even remotely feasible to severely punish millions of living human beings for all the supposed and imagined great sins of human beings long dead . ?Pardon me, but it's morally and ethically sick, and it's clearly wrong-headed from a purely utilitarian perspective. ?It may look good on Hallmark cards sent back and forth among ideological zealots, but would you *really* want to cripple or even destroy present civilizations simply to make zealots of any stripe happy?
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On Oct 27, 2024, at 00:46, a1thighmaster <thighmaster@...> wrote:
?
Darrell,
I don't feel guilty about their mistreatment either. I just don't
understand why anyone would be against helping those who have been
discriminated against and haven't had the same advantages as
others. Africans who were brought to America suffered a lot of
loss and then weren't allowed to even try to make up for it. I
think there were plenty around who would have liked to become
entrepreneurs.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 10/26/2024 12:59 PM, Darrell King
wrote:
I believe you mean
to say you are in favor of helping the descendants?of
people who were mistreated in the U.S. before your
parents arrived, Celeste. Therein lies my quibble: we
have been conditioned to ignore this distinction as
though I was port?of that mistreatment. I was not and
I hope that even if I had been alive and adult back in
that day, I would?not have contributed to
mistreatment.
I often help people
on an individual basis. I share frequently when able.
This?is not out of any sense of guilt or
responsibility?related to the behaviors of my
social?or biological ancestors, however, but
rather?originates on my personal?values on the
subject. I admit to feeling a little put out when
somebody insists I owe?some person or group
because some predecessor?acted a certain way. Even if
I disapprove of some historical behavior, such as the
treatment uf North American indigenous people by
European immigrants, I am still not personally liable
for those immigrants' behaviors.
Doesn't mean I am against helping them or anyone. Just
means that?rationally I may deal with the fallout
(karma?) from history but I do not feel guilty about
someone else's actions!
D
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at
11:56?AM Celeste wrote:
Darrell,
Your response sounds incredibly bigoted. My ancestors
weren't even in the U.S. until the 20th century and I'm
still in favor of helping peoples who were mistreated in
the U.S. before they arrived. And, of course, that
includes the indigenous peoples. You, however, I am
disappointed in.
On 10/26/2024 7:27 AM, Darrell King wrote:
And
Darrell wondered: I am curious
how many eligible?black entrepreneurs
were around during the "slavery
and discrimination eras" to lose time
thusly??
Sorry,
Celeste! It is a pet peeve of mine that
the sins of the fathers?are carried to the
sons! While I do believe in continuous
improvement?on a social level, I consider
myself as bearing absolutely no personal
responsibility for any alleged sins my
forefathers may have been involved?in! I
certainly do not oppose?entrepreneurism in
any group and so I am wary of this
constant effort to make amends?for those
sins to a generation that had no exposure
to said sins.
I
suppose social assistance for deserving
entrepreneurs no matter ethnicity or
other social factors. Base such
support?on the validity and value of the
business plan, sure. I suppose I lean
rightward on the idea that I should make
up for the idea that a given population
deserves to be lifted out of their woes
simply because of historical
mistreatment?of a population with
similarities. I try to treat people
decently as part of my personal
morality, but I am not responsible for
how others have treated people.
Having
vented all that, I would support
forgivable loans for ideas assessed
solely?on their business plans and ongoing
monitoring of their use without
consideration of ethnicity or
similar?'disadvantaged' factoring..?
Celeste
Answered to?Is
Harris's offer of forgivable $20,000
loans to black men the equivalent of
shiny beads to Indians??with "No,
not in any way. It's for black
entrepreneurs. It gives them a chance to
make up for lost time during the slavery
and discrimination eras."
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Re: Friday Five October 25
Darrell,
I don't feel guilty about their mistreatment either. I just don't
understand why anyone would be against helping those who have been
discriminated against and haven't had the same advantages as
others. Africans who were brought to America suffered a lot of
loss and then weren't allowed to even try to make up for it. I
think there were plenty around who would have liked to become
entrepreneurs.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 10/26/2024 12:59 PM, Darrell King
wrote:
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I believe you mean
to say you are in favor of helping the descendants?of
people who were mistreated in the U.S. before your
parents arrived, Celeste. Therein lies my quibble: we
have been conditioned to ignore this distinction as
though I was port?of that mistreatment. I was not and
I hope that even if I had been alive and adult back in
that day, I would?not have contributed to
mistreatment.
I often help people
on an individual basis. I share frequently when able.
This?is not out of any sense of guilt or
responsibility?related to the behaviors of my
social?or biological ancestors, however, but
rather?originates on my personal?values on the
subject. I admit to feeling a little put out when
somebody insists I owe?some person or group
because some predecessor?acted a certain way. Even if
I disapprove of some historical behavior, such as the
treatment uf North American indigenous people by
European immigrants, I am still not personally liable
for those immigrants' behaviors.
Doesn't mean I am against helping them or anyone. Just
means that?rationally I may deal with the fallout
(karma?) from history but I do not feel guilty about
someone else's actions!
D
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at
11:56?AM Celeste wrote:
Darrell,
Your response sounds incredibly bigoted. My ancestors
weren't even in the U.S. until the 20th century and I'm
still in favor of helping peoples who were mistreated in
the U.S. before they arrived. And, of course, that
includes the indigenous peoples. You, however, I am
disappointed in.
On 10/26/2024 7:27 AM, Darrell King wrote:
And
Darrell wondered: I am curious
how many eligible?black entrepreneurs
were around during the "slavery
and discrimination eras" to lose time
thusly??
Sorry,
Celeste! It is a pet peeve of mine that
the sins of the fathers?are carried to the
sons! While I do believe in continuous
improvement?on a social level, I consider
myself as bearing absolutely no personal
responsibility for any alleged sins my
forefathers may have been involved?in! I
certainly do not oppose?entrepreneurism in
any group and so I am wary of this
constant effort to make amends?for those
sins to a generation that had no exposure
to said sins.
I
suppose social assistance for deserving
entrepreneurs no matter ethnicity or
other social factors. Base such
support?on the validity and value of the
business plan, sure. I suppose I lean
rightward on the idea that I should make
up for the idea that a given population
deserves to be lifted out of their woes
simply because of historical
mistreatment?of a population with
similarities. I try to treat people
decently as part of my personal
morality, but I am not responsible for
how others have treated people.
Having
vented all that, I would support
forgivable loans for ideas assessed
solely?on their business plans and ongoing
monitoring of their use without
consideration of ethnicity or
similar?'disadvantaged' factoring..?
Celeste
Answered to?Is
Harris's offer of forgivable $20,000
loans to black men the equivalent of
shiny beads to Indians??with "No,
not in any way. It's for black
entrepreneurs. It gives them a chance to
make up for lost time during the slavery
and discrimination eras."
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Re: Friday Five October 25
?
I thinkCeleste is disappointed in a lot of us!
?
Notable in the news: ?Celeste has gone on record as being disappointed in Darrell.
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? Darrell,
Your response sounds incredibly bigoted. My ancestors weren't even in the U.S. until the 20th century and I'm still in favor of helping peoples who were mistreated in the U.S. before they arrived. And, of course, that includes the indigenous peoples. You, however, I am disappointed in.
Aloha,
Celeste
?
On 10/26/2024 7:27 AM, Darrell King wrote:
And Darrell wondered: I am curious how many eligible?black entrepreneurs were around during the "slavery and discrimination eras" to lose time thusly??
?
Sorry, Celeste! It is a pet peeve of mine that the sins of the fathers?are carried to the sons! While I do believe in continuous improvement?on a social level, I consider myself as bearing absolutely no personal responsibility for any alleged sins my forefathers may have been involved?in! I certainly do not oppose?entrepreneurism in any group and so I am wary of this constant effort to make amends?for those sins to a generation that had no exposure to said sins.
?
I suppose social assistance for deserving entrepreneurs no matter ethnicity or other social factors. Base such support?on the validity and value of the business plan, sure. I suppose I lean rightward on the idea that I should make up for the idea that a given population deserves to be lifted out of their woes simply because of historical mistreatment?of a population with similarities. I try to treat people decently as part of my personal morality, but I am not responsible for how others have treated people.
?
Having vented all that, I would support forgivable loans for ideas assessed solely?on their business plans and ongoing monitoring of their use without consideration of ethnicity or similar?'disadvantaged' factoring..?
?
Celeste Answered to?Is Harris's offer of forgivable $20,000 loans to black men the equivalent of shiny beads to Indians??with "No, not in any way. It's for black entrepreneurs. It gives them a chance to make up for lost time during the slavery and discrimination eras."
?
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Notable in the news: ?Celeste has gone on record as being disappointed in Darrell.
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On Oct 26, 2024, at 13:56, a1thighmaster via groups.io <thighmaster@...> wrote:
?
Darrell,
Your response sounds incredibly bigoted. My ancestors weren't even
in the U.S. until the 20th century and I'm still in favor of
helping peoples who were mistreated in the U.S. before they
arrived. And, of course, that includes the indigenous peoples.
You, however, I am disappointed in.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 10/26/2024 7:27 AM, Darrell King
wrote:
And
Darrell wondered: I am curious how many
eligible?black entrepreneurs were around during
the "slavery and discrimination eras" to
lose time thusly??
Sorry, Celeste! It
is a pet peeve of mine that the sins of the
fathers?are carried to the sons! While I do believe
in continuous improvement?on a social level, I
consider myself as bearing absolutely no personal
responsibility for any alleged sins my forefathers
may have been involved?in! I certainly do not
oppose?entrepreneurism in any group and so I am wary
of this constant effort to make amends?for those
sins to a generation that had no exposure to said
sins.
I suppose
social assistance for deserving entrepreneurs no
matter ethnicity or other social factors. Base
such support?on the validity and value of the
business plan, sure. I suppose I lean rightward on
the idea that I should make up for the idea that a
given population deserves to be lifted out of
their woes simply because of historical
mistreatment?of a population with similarities. I
try to treat people decently as part of my
personal morality, but I am not responsible for
how others have treated people.
Having vented
all that, I would support forgivable loans for ideas
assessed solely?on their business plans and ongoing
monitoring of their use without consideration of
ethnicity or similar?'disadvantaged' factoring..?
Celeste Answered to?Is Harris's
offer of forgivable $20,000 loans to black men the
equivalent of shiny beads to Indians??with
"No, not in any
way. It's for black entrepreneurs. It gives them a
chance to make up for lost time during the slavery
and discrimination eras."
|
Re: Friday Five October 25
I believe you mean to say you are in favor of helping the descendants?of people who were mistreated in the U.S. before your parents arrived, Celeste. Therein lies my quibble: we have been conditioned to ignore this distinction as though I was port?of that mistreatment. I was not and I hope that even if I had been alive and adult back in that day, I would?not have contributed to mistreatment.
I often help people on an individual basis. I share frequently when able. This?is not out of any sense of guilt or responsibility?related to the behaviors of my social?or biological ancestors, however, but rather?originates on my personal?values on the subject. I admit to feeling a little put out when somebody insists I owe?some person or group because some predecessor?acted a certain way. Even if I disapprove of some historical behavior, such as the treatment uf North American indigenous people by European immigrants, I am still not personally liable for those immigrants' behaviors.
Doesn't mean I am against helping them or anyone. Just means that?rationally I may deal with the fallout (karma?) from history but I do not feel guilty about someone else's actions!
D
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On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 11:56?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
Darrell,
Your response sounds incredibly bigoted. My ancestors weren't even
in the U.S. until the 20th century and I'm still in favor of
helping peoples who were mistreated in the U.S. before they
arrived. And, of course, that includes the indigenous peoples.
You, however, I am disappointed in.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 10/26/2024 7:27 AM, Darrell King
wrote:
And
Darrell wondered: I am curious how many
eligible?black entrepreneurs were around during
the "slavery and discrimination eras" to
lose time thusly??
Sorry, Celeste! It
is a pet peeve of mine that the sins of the
fathers?are carried to the sons! While I do believe
in continuous improvement?on a social level, I
consider myself as bearing absolutely no personal
responsibility for any alleged sins my forefathers
may have been involved?in! I certainly do not
oppose?entrepreneurism in any group and so I am wary
of this constant effort to make amends?for those
sins to a generation that had no exposure to said
sins.
I suppose
social assistance for deserving entrepreneurs no
matter ethnicity or other social factors. Base
such support?on the validity and value of the
business plan, sure. I suppose I lean rightward on
the idea that I should make up for the idea that a
given population deserves to be lifted out of
their woes simply because of historical
mistreatment?of a population with similarities. I
try to treat people decently as part of my
personal morality, but I am not responsible for
how others have treated people.
Having vented
all that, I would support forgivable loans for ideas
assessed solely?on their business plans and ongoing
monitoring of their use without consideration of
ethnicity or similar?'disadvantaged' factoring..?
Celeste Answered to?Is Harris's
offer of forgivable $20,000 loans to black men the
equivalent of shiny beads to Indians??with
"No, not in any
way. It's for black entrepreneurs. It gives them a
chance to make up for lost time during the slavery
and discrimination eras."
|
Re: Friday Five October 25
Darrell,
Your response sounds incredibly bigoted. My ancestors weren't even
in the U.S. until the 20th century and I'm still in favor of
helping peoples who were mistreated in the U.S. before they
arrived. And, of course, that includes the indigenous peoples.
You, however, I am disappointed in.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 10/26/2024 7:27 AM, Darrell King
wrote:
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Show quoted text
And
Darrell wondered: I am curious how many
eligible?black entrepreneurs were around during
the "slavery and discrimination eras" to
lose time thusly??
Sorry, Celeste! It
is a pet peeve of mine that the sins of the
fathers?are carried to the sons! While I do believe
in continuous improvement?on a social level, I
consider myself as bearing absolutely no personal
responsibility for any alleged sins my forefathers
may have been involved?in! I certainly do not
oppose?entrepreneurism in any group and so I am wary
of this constant effort to make amends?for those
sins to a generation that had no exposure to said
sins.
I suppose
social assistance for deserving entrepreneurs no
matter ethnicity or other social factors. Base
such support?on the validity and value of the
business plan, sure. I suppose I lean rightward on
the idea that I should make up for the idea that a
given population deserves to be lifted out of
their woes simply because of historical
mistreatment?of a population with similarities. I
try to treat people decently as part of my
personal morality, but I am not responsible for
how others have treated people.
Having vented
all that, I would support forgivable loans for ideas
assessed solely?on their business plans and ongoing
monitoring of their use without consideration of
ethnicity or similar?'disadvantaged' factoring..?
Celeste Answered to?Is Harris's
offer of forgivable $20,000 loans to black men the
equivalent of shiny beads to Indians??with
"No, not in any
way. It's for black entrepreneurs. It gives them a
chance to make up for lost time during the slavery
and discrimination eras."
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Re: Friday Five October 25
Celeste Answered to?Is Harris's offer of forgivable $20,000 loans to black men the equivalent of shiny beads to Indians??with "No, not in any way. It's for black entrepreneurs. It gives them a chance to make up for lost time during the slavery and discrimination eras."
And Darrell wondered: I am curious how many eligible?black entrepreneurs were around during the "slavery and discrimination eras" to lose time thusly??
Sorry, Celeste! It is a pet peeve of mine that the sins of the fathers?are carried to the sons! While I do believe in continuous improvement?on a social level, I consider myself as bearing absolutely no personal responsibility for any alleged sins my forefathers may have been involved?in! I certainly do not oppose?entrepreneurism in any group and so I am wary of this constant effort to make amends?for those sins to a generation that had no exposure to said sins.
I suppose social assistance for deserving entrepreneurs no matter ethnicity or other social factors. Base such support?on the validity and value of the business plan, sure. I suppose I lean rightward on the idea that I should make up for the idea that a given population deserves to be lifted out of their woes simply because of historical mistreatment?of a population with similarities. I try to treat people decently as part of my personal morality, but I am not responsible for how others have treated people.
Having vented all that, I would support forgivable loans for ideas assessed solely?on their business plans and ongoing monitoring of their use without consideration of ethnicity or similar?'disadvantaged' factoring..?
D <-- (who is often overly opinionated!)
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On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 10:36?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
1.? Who
was the most impressive woman of the 20th century?
I like Angela Merkel for this honor.
2.? Is
Harris's offer of forgievablle $20,000 loans to black
men the equivalent of shiny beads to Indians?
No, not in any way. It's for black entrepreneurs. It gives them a
chance to make up for lost time during the slavery and
discrimination eras.
3.? Does
a candidate's height effect voting patterns?
Unlikely.
4.? What
percentage of votes cast for president this election
will be gainst someone rather than for someone?
I have no idea. Nor does it really matter.
5? ?Do
think we will have a elected president by Deccember 1?
Certainly.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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1.? Who
was the most impressive woman of the 20th century?
I like Angela Merkel for this honor.
2.? Is
Harris's offer of forgievablle $20,000 loans to black
men the equivalent of shiny beads to Indians?
No, not in any way. It's for black entrepreneurs. It gives them a
chance to make up for lost time during the slavery and
discrimination eras.
3.? Does
a candidate's height effect voting patterns?
Unlikely.
4.? What
percentage of votes cast for president this election
will be gainst someone rather than for someone?
I have no idea. Nor does it really matter.
5? ?Do
think we will have a elected president by Deccember 1?
Certainly.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 08:45:19 -0600, "Darrell King" <DarrellGKing@...> wrote:
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Who says Mensans are not effective problem-solvers!
Ahh, there goes one of next Friday's questions(/essay points): Describe one thoughtful solution for a major social problem that you would endorse.
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Done.? Forty virtual green acorns in the mail.
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I would love to have 40 acres! Preferably in New Mexico but I would also consider Arizona, the UP, the Dakotas or New Hampshire!
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1.? Who was the most impressive woman of the 20th century?
Wueen Elizabeth II - she was a much more complicated person than we ever knew
2.? Is Harris's offer of forgievablle $20,000 loans to black men the equivalent of shiny beads to Indians?
Definitely and worth about as much as the forty acres? and a mule promised to freed slaves in 1855
3.? Does a candidate's height effect voting patterns?
I suspect so?
4.? What percentage of votes cast for president this election will be gainst someone rather than for someone?
probably close to 85%
5? ?Do think we will have a elected president by Deccember 1?
I seriously doubt it
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ok
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Who says Mensans are not effective problem-solvers!
Ahh, there goes one of next Friday's questions(/essay points): Describe one thoughtful solution for a major social problem that you would endorse.
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Done.? Forty virtual green acorns in the mail.
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I would love to have 40 acres! Preferably in New Mexico but I would also consider Arizona, the UP, the Dakotas or New Hampshire!
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1.? Who was the most impressive woman of the 20th century?
Wueen Elizabeth II - she was a much more complicated person than we ever knew
2.? Is Harris's offer of forgievablle $20,000 loans to black men the equivalent of shiny beads to Indians?
Definitely and worth about as much as the forty acres? and a mule promised to freed slaves in 1855
3.? Does a candidate's height effect voting patterns?
I suspect so?
4.? What percentage of votes cast for president this election will be gainst someone rather than for someone?
probably close to 85%
5? ?Do think we will have a elected president by Deccember 1?
I seriously doubt it
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Who says Mensans are not effective problem-solvers!
Ahh, there goes one of next Friday's questions(/essay points): Describe one thoughtful solution for a major social problem that you would endorse.
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1.? Who was the most impressive woman of the 20th century?
Wueen Elizabeth II - she was a much more complicated person than we ever knew
2.? Is Harris's offer of forgievablle $20,000 loans to black men the equivalent of shiny beads to Indians?
Definitely and worth about as much as the forty acres? and a mule promised to freed slaves in 1855
3.? Does a candidate's height effect voting patterns?
I suspect so?
4.? What percentage of votes cast for president this election will be gainst someone rather than for someone?
probably close to 85%
5? ?Do think we will have a elected president by Deccember 1?
I seriously doubt it
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Done. ?Forty virtual green acorns in the mail.
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On Oct 25, 2024, at 19:15, Darrell King <DarrellGKing@...> wrote:
? I would love to have 40 acres! Preferably in New Mexico but I would also consider Arizona, the UP, the Dakotas or New Hampshire!
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1.? Who was the most impressive woman of the 20th century?
Wueen Elizabeth II - she was a much more complicated person than we ever knew
2.? Is Harris's offer of forgievablle $20,000 loans to black men the equivalent of shiny beads to Indians?
Definitely and worth about as much as the forty acres? and a mule promised to freed slaves in 1855
3.? Does a candidate's height effect voting patterns?
I suspect so?
4.? What percentage of votes cast for president this election will be gainst someone rather than for someone?
probably close to 85%
5? ?Do think we will have a elected president by Deccember 1?
I seriously doubt it
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I would love to have 40 acres! Preferably in New Mexico but I would also consider Arizona, the UP, the Dakotas or New Hampshire!
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1.? Who was the most impressive woman of the 20th century?
Wueen Elizabeth II - she was a much more complicated person than we ever knew
2.? Is Harris's offer of forgievablle $20,000 loans to black men the equivalent of shiny beads to Indians?
Definitely and worth about as much as the forty acres? and a mule promised to freed slaves in 1855
3.? Does a candidate's height effect voting patterns?
I suspect so?
4.? What percentage of votes cast for president this election will be gainst someone rather than for someone?
probably close to 85%
5? ?Do think we will have a elected president by Deccember 1?
I seriously doubt it
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1.? Who was the most impressive woman of the 20th century?
Wueen Elizabeth II - she was a much more complicated person than we ever knew
2.? Is Harris's offer of forgievablle $20,000 loans to black men the equivalent of shiny beads to Indians?
Definitely and worth about as much as the forty acres? and a mule promised to freed slaves in 1855
3.? Does a candidate's height effect voting patterns?
I suspect so?
4.? What percentage of votes cast for president this election will be gainst someone rather than for someone?
probably close to 85%
5? ?Do think we will have a elected president by Deccember 1?
I seriously doubt it
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1.? Who was the most impressive woman of the 20th century?
Demi Moore, obviously. Or maybe Lara Croft...
(This one of the questions I see no reasonable answer for, so I am shooting down the mental gridlock monster before it takes over.)
2.? Is Harris's offer of forgivable $20,000 loans to black men the equivalent of shiny beads to Indians?
Not unless she gets an island for it.
3.? Does a candidate's height effect voting patterns?
If they organize the line by height, sure. In boot camp, we did that with the platoon formation.
4.? What percentage of votes cast for president this election will be against someone rather than for someone?
I suspect some will given the drama, but I am not even remotely qualified to quantify?the "some" (sum?) ...
5? ?Do you think we will have an elected president by December 1?
Ridiculously, this almost seems the most answerable?of the five. I suspect that legal challenges will be ineffective, thus even if we have a full-blown civil war, we will have a legally elected prez.?
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1.? Who was the most impressive woman of the 20th century?
2.? Is Harris's offer of forgievablle $20,000 loans to black men the equivalent of shiny beads to Indians?
3.? Does a candidate's height effect voting patterns?
4.? What percentage of votes cast for president this election will be gainst someone rather than for someone?
5? ?Do think we will have a elected president by Deccember 1?
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? I can see I have finally brought the light to this place. My work here is done...
And your peaceful death because you didn't see it coming. ? ? Right? Imagine being able to commute and simultaneously read in one's Kindle without waiting in line...
No drunk drivers, no road rage, no fiddling with devices; it sounds like heaven.
On Tuesday, October 22, 2024, David Smith via <dvdcsmth=[email protected]> wrote:
See, Ed?? Darrell's converted already.? Humans, it has been proved by science, kill *far* more innocent little babies than fully computerized cars ever *could*.? Just think of all the millions of lovely lives that automation will surely save! ? ...you mean kinda like human drivers...?
It will be hailed as a great innovation until one of them runs over a baby in a stroller or crashes and bursts into flames with a screaming family trapped inside.
On Monday, October 21, 2024, David Smith via <dvdcsmth=[email protected]> wrote:
In his weekly questions a week or three ago, Marvin asked if readers would be comfortable using a wireless taxi.? It seems that "tens of thousands of paying passengers every week" are taking to them in California.? The American economy thrives on novelty.? They call it "progress" and Americans apparently love it.? The mentality of small children?
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Waymo has also gone on a marketing blitz, promoting the privacy of its cars for date night and stuffing fortune cookies at Chinatown restaurants with app-download QR codes. And it helped that Waymo¡¯s main competitor Cruise exited the market last fall after state regulators pulled its driverless permits.
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Meanwhile, Waymo is now setting its sights on the rest of the country. In addition to San Francisco, its robotaxi service operates in Phoenix and Los Angeles, just started giving rides in Austin, Texas, and plans to launch in Atlanta next year.
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And your peaceful death because you didn't see it coming. ? ? Right? Imagine being able to commute and simultaneously read in one's Kindle without waiting in line...
No drunk drivers, no road rage, no fiddling with devices; it sounds like heaven.
On Tuesday, October 22, 2024, David Smith via <dvdcsmth=[email protected]> wrote:
See, Ed?? Darrell's converted already.? Humans, it has been proved by science, kill *far* more innocent little babies than fully computerized cars ever *could*.? Just think of all the millions of lovely lives that automation will surely save! ? ...you mean kinda like human drivers...?
It will be hailed as a great innovation until one of them runs over a baby in a stroller or crashes and bursts into flames with a screaming family trapped inside.
On Monday, October 21, 2024, David Smith via <dvdcsmth=[email protected]> wrote:
In his weekly questions a week or three ago, Marvin asked if readers would be comfortable using a wireless taxi.? It seems that "tens of thousands of paying passengers every week" are taking to them in California.? The American economy thrives on novelty.? They call it "progress" and Americans apparently love it.? The mentality of small children?
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Plus: Oura allure, laser wars, AI etiquette and more ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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On the streets of San Francisco these days, you¡¯re likely to come across dozens of white Jaguars with whirling sensors and cameras.
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Waymo¡ªowned by Google¡¯s parent, Alphabet¡ªhas become a popular mode of transportation in this city, a year after residents and local officials balked at them for stalling on busy streets and disrupting construction zones. The company has had time to improve the driverless cars, and locals have had a chance to get more comfortable with them, as .?
Waymo has also gone on a marketing blitz, promoting the privacy of its cars for date night and stuffing fortune cookies at Chinatown restaurants with app-download QR codes. And it helped that Waymo¡¯s main competitor Cruise exited the market last fall after state regulators pulled its driverless permits.
The result is that Waymo is starting to pull ahead in the robotaxi race, just as Tesla CEO Elon Musk is trying aggressively to enter the market. Last week, he unveiled plans for two new driverless vehicles¡ªa car and a shuttle bus¡ªbut they won¡¯t be operational for some time.
Meanwhile, Waymo is now setting its sights on the rest of the country. In addition to San Francisco, its robotaxi service operates in Phoenix and Los Angeles, just started giving rides in Austin, Texas, and plans to launch in Atlanta next year.
Eventually, Waymo said, it wants to take its cars overseas.
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