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1.? ? What one book have you been reading lately that most impressed you?
Vanished Kingdoms by Norman Daivies
2.? ? ?Can you depend on your ability to tell when someone is lying to you?
Not as much as I would like to think I can
3.? ? ?Have you been to a movie in a theater in the last year?
No - and probably won't go to one ever again
4? ? ? ?Do you think the world ecinomy will be in recession within six months?
I am most atraid of stagflation - a combination of recession and inflation
5? ? ? ?Are you worried that the war in Ukraine will spread to more couniires?
More than I was yesterday - apparently Finland has applied tor admission to NATO and a Russian dignitary has made threatening comments
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1.? ? What one book have you been reading lately that most impressed you?
Nothing too intense as most of my newly-retired time is being spent building a skoolie. A fictional?series by a new author Kyla Stone is doing better than I had hoped. I am currently on?Edge of Madness and it revolves around rural Montana protagonists following a mysterious EMP event. Shoot me for enjoying cheap thrills. :)
2.? ? ?Can you depend on your ability to tell when someone is lying to you?
I have been fairly good with this, so yes.I am naturally wary, however. I did spend quite a bit of time with Paul Ekman's microexpression tools and with his mooks at one point. I feel the experience was enlightening and I did improve in this area. .
3.? ? ?Have you been to a movie in a theater in the last year?
No. Have not even considered it mor more than a passing moment, best I can recall.?
4? ? ? ?Do you think the world ecinomy will be in recession within six months?
Unrest maybe, fluctuating and responding to social chaos, but I am not learned enough in this area to make a prediction clearly appropriate to the question.?
5? ? ? ?Are you worried that the war in Ukraine will spread to more countires?
Not worried, but wary. Turkey is sheltering, several countries seem to be in serious civil turmoil, several dictatorial regime leaders are likely to take their own wary note of the sanctions against Russian leaders personally, the threat of high-impact?WMD use needs to be considered in this question, international volunteer?and mercenary?involvement could lead to an unexpected avenue for an unofficial world war of sorts, and those with existing grudges like North Korea for South Korea or China for Taiwan may still take advantage of the shifting landscape. It is all an unpredictably swirling and chaotic political storm in my mind.?
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1.? ? What one book have you been reading lately that most impressed you?
"The Signal and the Noise: Why so Many Predictions Fail- but Some Don't" - Nate Silver
2.? ? ?Can you depend on your ability to tell when someone is lying to you?
When I look for it, I can spot it more often, but not when people believe their lies, and then I have to rely on context.
3.? ? ?Have you been to a movie in a theater in the last year?
No.
4? ? ? ?Do you think the world ecinomy will be in recession within six months?
Very possibly, but runaway inflation is much more likely in the short run, followed by recession.
5? ? ? ?Are you worried that the war in Ukraine will spread to more countires?
I don't think it will, but if it does, the results could be catastrophic. ?
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1.? ? What one book have you been reading lately that most impressed you?
2.? ? ?Can you depend on your ability to tell when someone is lying to you?
3.? ? ?Have you been to a movie in a theater in the last year?
4? ? ? ?Do you think the world ecinomy will be in recession within six months?
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1.? ? What one book have you been reading lately that most impressed you?
2.? ? ?Can you depend on your ability to tell when someone is lying to you?
3.? ? ?Have you been to a movie in a theater in the last year?
4? ? ? ?Do you think the world ecinomy will be in recession within six months?
5? ? ? ?Are you worried that the war in Ukraine will spread to more countires?
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1.? Do you think thorium reactors are a viable alternative for energy production?
Had to Google that?one! Maybe in space, but sounds to me like an ineffective stopgap alternative to more common fission plants. Best to place the effort into solar or maybe geothermal.
2.? ?Are there any countries in the world you would be afraid to visit?
Uh...not really?afraid, but prudence rules in places like Ukraine, Russia and central Africa. Have to be a good reason to visit some of these hotspots. EVen Mexico sounds to me like a gamble nowadays. ?
3.? ?Do ou think rare metals should be regarded as a strategic commodity with subsidies for domestic production?
Sure. Anything that has real world purpose or value. Having said that, I would not vote to subsidize destructive?forms of harvesting. ?
4.? ?Are you limiting travel because of high fuel cost?
Not really. Building a skoolie and expect to travel more?in another month or so. ?
5.? ? Have you ever mourned the death of a pet more than a close friend?
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Yes, although the term 'close friend' is a bit deceptive as the pets were close friends.?
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1.? Do you think thorium reactors are a viable alternative for energy production?
I have no idea.
2.? ?Are there any countries in the world you would be afraid to visit?
Yes, several.? The list changes each year, but war zones top the lost, followed by drug cartel controlled countries.? A few corrupt countries should be avoided, and some theocracies can jail visitors on exaggerated claims of blasphemy.
3.? ?Do ou think rare metals should be regarded as a strategic commodity with subsidies for domestic production?
They don¡¯t need subsidies, but imposing import restrictions and curtailing unnecessary regulations would enable free enterprise to efficiently solve the supply problems.
4.? ?Are you limiting travel because of high fuel cost?
?No.
5.? ? Have you ever mourned the death of a pet more than a close friend?
We mourn each differently.? We understand that pets don¡¯t live as long, but we are in constant contact with pets, so the reminders of their absence are constant during mourning.
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1.? Do you think thorium reactors are a viable alternative for energy production?
Yes - there is a tremendous amount of thorium available and the reactors running on thorium don't turn out plutonium useful for nuclear weapons - the big reason thorium was not used for reactors in the 1950s
2.? ?Are there any countries in the world you would be afraid to visit?
A better question would be which ones I would visit - until recently Canada was on that list and I"m not sure now
3.? ?Do ou think rare metals should be regarded as a strategic commodity with subsidies for domestic production?
There is something to be said for paying higher prices for raw materials mined in the US.
4.? ?Are you limiting travel because of high fuel cost?
Not as much as sheer exhaustion
5.? ? Have you ever mourned the death of a pet more than a close friend?
Very much so - not having ever had children - I don't have any immediate family - but I have had cats that were my family - they are all dead now.
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1.? Do you think thorium reactors are a viable alternative for energy production?
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4.? ?Are you limiting travel because of high fuel cost?
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1. Did Ukraine make a ,mistake giving up it's nuclear weapons in 21994?
Yes and no. No, Ukraine made the best decision they could at the time, and it would have been a mistake, at that time, not to give up their nuclear weapons. But now in hindsight¡..yes, Ukraine made a mistake and should have kept their weapons.
2.? What was the most egregious scientific hoax of the 20th century?
I can¡¯t think of any offhand that I would call egregious. First one that comes to my mind was the ¡°cold fusion¡± fiasco of the late 80¡¯s, but that was more embarrassing for the researchers, than egregious.
3.? Should biological males who self identify as female be allowed to compete against biological females in athletic events?
I don¡¯t think so. The average chromosome XY human who has went through puberty, will always have strength advantages over the average XX human. Hormones can negate those advantages to some extent, but not completely. ?This difference in strength is the reason why we have male and female sports. Perhaps sports should just be divided into XX or XY category (with individual rulings made for the rare intersex person.) Or maybe the difference should be if the XY human took puberty blockers and never actually went through puberty¡ªcertainly at younger ages, XX and XY children often play on teams together or compete against each other. I think Title IX recognize the importance of equal opportunity in sports for girls and women¡ªsolely because of the strength difference between XX and XY, girls and women were not getting equal opportunity.
4.? Who will be out of power first - Putin or Trudea?
My money would be on Putin, but gambling on politics is a good way to lose money.
5.? Does the current situation in eastern Europe remind you of June 1914?
No, but I don¡¯t remember much about conditions in Europe from my Am History class taken decades ago. Perhaps I should read up some on this history.
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<<Well, at least the people have been shown clearly over the past two years that "the news" has in our time become effectively a propaganda arm of the ruling establishment. ?Whether or not the people have learned what's been shown them is another matter. ?The past two years have also shown us how gullible people are likely to be, especially when the deceptions being foisted on them come from sources they have come to regard as authoritative.>>
I don¡¯t see that all. Most major news sources report as ¡°the news¡± whatever makes them the most money. And as cable and satellite, and even more so newspapers, subscriptions continue to drop, more and more people are getting their news from a plethora of news sites. In fact, one of the reasons for the deep division in the US, is that there is no longer a monolithic source of news, so people have widely varying opinions, depending on where they choose to get their news.
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<<America and Canada are both ruled by fools. ?This is possible because of two things. ?The first is that both use majority rule. ?The second, which follows on from the first, is that both have become majoritarian democracies.??(In a majoritarian democracy, the candidate or party that receives a majority of the votes has implicit permission to run the country as a dictatorship.) >>
Maybe people think they are voting for a dictatorship with their vote, but that doesn¡¯t actually happen. What almost always happens is gridlock, as it¡¯s a rare year that the same party controls the presidency, house, and senate. (and strangely¡.or not¡..when the same party does control all 3, none of their ¡°pet¡± issues actually get any meaningful change.)
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Re: Trudeau at the EU parliament
There was an interesting photo posted this am of the attendees at the summit standing around talking.? Trudeau and Biden were talking to each other, separated from the clumps of other world leaders.? It was almost as no one else wanted to talk to them. Ed
On Wednesday, March 23, 2022, Pat Trivers < pat_trivers@...> wrote: Justin Trudeau has been swanning around Europe lately, meeting with world leaders, pretending to be helping to solve the Russia/ Ukraine problems. We Canadians here at home wonder why the world leaders bother to invite him. Surely they know by now what a useless piece of garbage he is. Maybe they don't invite him; maybe he's crashing their gatherings. Anyway, we were gratified last week to see that he was met and followed by crowds in London waving Canadian flags and shouting the slogan made famous by the Freedom Convoy in February - F?ck Trudeau. Today, we got full value for the cost of sending him to Europe again this week. He was at the EU Parliament. First, he got up and made a speech to an almost empty room. Funny, the room is always empty when he speaks at the UN as well. During the speech he whined again about the Freedom Convoy, and once again yapped about how democracy is unfortunately not quite being upheld everywhere the way it should be. He does this with a straight face, apparently completely unaware that he himself is the biggest offender. One wonders whether his speech writers are as completely lacking in self-awareness as he is, or if they're making a joke at his expense. And then when he finished, an EU politician from Croatia stood up and absolutely reamed him. It is such a joy to behold; I have watched it over and over and enjoy it just as much every time. Worth whatever it cost to send him there. I just wish they would keep him. The link to the well-deserved reaming is below. I especially like the not-so-veiled threat at the end. Enjoy.
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// ? ? ? I will miss?sunsets atop?forested hills, though. Peak foliage in Autumn, the smells and sounds of breezes through the trees and the cute pictures of cuddly polar bear cubs! Fortunately I am old, though, and will not miss them for long even if I live to an old-age death!??? ? ?//
We value only the things we have seen and touched.
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? Pat said:? 2. What was the most egregious scientific hoax of the 20th century?
Anthropogenic global warming aka climate change. Darrell replied:
I am not taking responsibility for Thwaites melting, stunningly high record Arctic and Antarctic temperatures or the recent collapse of the Conger ice shelf. Nor for the persistent recent changes in weather patterns, including extremes such as high-powered hurricanes, massive tornadoes, overwhelming monsoons,unusually intense blizzards, unexpected (by me, at least!) fauna behaviors, or reliably measured rising sea levels. Geology does not care about biosphere changes that impact human beings negatively. I just happen to be alive during a period of concerning geological change.
Fortunately, my suburban contributions to observable atmospheric smog and emissions, worldwide littered waste, tested contamination of ground waters and topsoil, global deforestation, and massive natural resource depletion have nothing to do with any of those aforementioned changes. After all, everything that is destroyed is really just changing state, right? If I drown in an encroaching sea, I become fertilizer and fish food, thus simply continuing existence in a new form!
I will miss?sunsets atop?forested hills, though. Peak foliage in Autumn, the smells and sounds of breezes through the trees and the cute pictures of cuddly polar bear cubs! Fortunately I am old, though, and will not miss them for long even if I live to an old-age death!?
With love and respect,
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Pat said:? 2. What was the most egregious scientific hoax of the 20th century?
Anthropogenic global warming aka climate change. Darrell replied:
I am not taking responsibility for Thwaites melting, stunningly high record Arctic and Antarctic temperatures or the recent collapse of the Conger ice shelf. Nor for the persistent recent changes in weather patterns, including extremes such as high-powered hurricanes, massive tornadoes, overwhelming monsoons,unusually intense blizzards, unexpected (by me, at least!) fauna behaviors, or reliably measured rising sea levels. Geology does not care about biosphere changes that impact human beings negatively. I just happen to be alive during a period of concerning geological change.
Fortunately, my suburban contributions to observable atmospheric smog and emissions, worldwide littered waste, tested contamination of ground waters and topsoil, global deforestation, and massive natural resource depletion have nothing to do with any of those aforementioned changes. After all, everything that is destroyed is really just changing state, right? If I drown in an encroaching sea, I become fertilizer and fish food, thus simply continuing existence in a new form!
I will miss?sunsets atop?forested hills, though. Peak foliage in Autumn, the smells and sounds of breezes through the trees and the cute pictures of cuddly polar bear cubs! Fortunately I am old, though, and will not miss them for long even if I live to an old-age death!?
With love and respect,
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We are a culture grown accustomed to physical ease and, even those of us not worth five or fifty million dollars, to a certain amount of ongoing luxury. ?
It's a frictionless existence - so long as we stay inside the lines and don't let our curiosity loose. ?If we let our minds wander, we'll soon find ourselves spit out by the culture, because it needs unthinking conformity to work. ?We understand and agree - subconsciously - to the terms of this contract. ?So long as we think as we're taught, the culture enfolds us in its warm motherly arms.?
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? Yes. We are much too docile and trusting in western societies. We trust the government, we trust the news services. We don't think for ourselves. When the US war against Iraq started, I was dating a man from Iran. He didn't believe anything the news was reporting. At that time, I still did, and tried to explain the concept of free press to him. I told him, if one news service reported things that were not true, other news services would investigate and report it correctly. He said that during the Iran/Iraq war, the news told them every day that they were winning the war and there were no casualties. But every night they saw and heard the trucks rumbling by all night, bringing back bodies from the front. Since then, we have lost the freedom of the press. In Canada it's explicit - Justin Trudeau pays all of the big, legacy news companies millions to report in his favour. And they do. It may be less explicit in the US and other countries, but the news services are inhabited by people who have been through the leftist propaganda filled universities, so they see events through their own leftist bias, and report them in ways to further leftist agendas. Centrist or right-leaning news services are rare. Non-existant in Canada, other than 1 or 2 new independent digital ventures. I have known how bad the news is for a long time, but even I was shocked at the outright lies reported by all the Canadian news services during the Freedom Convoy. Usually they use spin and weasel words to paint a leftist picture, and simply ignore any news they can't spin adequately. But during the convoy, Justin Trudeau stood up in Parliament and in news conferences and listed a whole string of outright lies about the protesters - called them racist, misogynist, nazi, white supremacist, criminal. He used every bad name he could think of, and the media reported all of it as if it was true. The CBC is the worst of the lot and is very tight with Trudeau. It became difficult to see which of the CBC and Justin Trudeau was inventing the new stories. One would say something, and right away the other would as well, sometimes the CBC was first and sometimes Trudeau. The stories were outrageous lies, all of them. Most Canadians saw nothing else. Only those of us who watched coverage by the independent companies, and even better, by the many YouTubers who walked around the site filming everything throughout, knew what was really happening. The majority out in the hinterland don't even realize they've been lied to. Pat ------ Original Message ------From: jimntempe@... To: [email protected]
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My big concern is that not enough people are really tuned into just how bad the fake news media is. Trump made it a front-page issue but I'm not sure there will be a strong enough personality to maintain the knowledge among the vast middle. Most of those I talk to about these issues still get their news from the fake news MSM. Sure, they think they see thru some of it, but when you suggest to them that Joe Blow Media who's got something up on youtube might have some useful info their reaction is always that Joe Blow isn't a real Jounalist, or isn't part of some institution that gives credibility, etc. You can present counter-narrative to the MSM narrative till you're blue in the face to the people in the vast middle (VM) but they go back to their ABC newshour and get reindoctrinated. The MSM often presents unsupported opinion as fact but the VM accepts it. If the alt-media presents documented facts the VM folks say "how do I know it's true?". They constantly question Alt media but almost always accept the pronouncements of MSM. To: [email protected]
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My big concern is that not enough people are really tuned into just how bad the fake news media is. Trump made it a front-page issue but I'm not sure there will be a strong enough personality to maintain the knowledge among the vast middle. Most of those I talk to about these issues still get their news from the fake news MSM. Sure, they think they see thru some of it, but when you suggest to them that Joe Blow Media who's got something up on youtube might have some useful info their reaction is always that Joe Blow isn't a real Jounalist, or isn't part of some institution that gives credibility, etc. You can present counter-narrative to the MSM narrative till you're blue in the face to the people in the vast middle (VM) but they go back to their ABC newshour and get reindoctrinated. The MSM often presents unsupported opinion as fact but the VM accepts it. If the alt-media presents documented facts the VM folks say "how do I know it's true?". They constantly question Alt media but almost always accept the pronouncements of MSM. From: jimntempe@...
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My big concern is that not enough people are really tuned into just how bad the fake news media is. Trump made it a front-page issue but I'm not sure there will be a strong enough personality to maintain the knowledge among the vast middle. Most of those I talk to about these issues still get their news from the fake news MSM. Sure, they think they see thru some of it, but when you suggest to them that Joe Blow Media who's got something up on youtube might have some useful info their reaction is always that Joe Blow isn't a real Jounalist, or isn't part of some institution that gives credibility, etc. You can present counter-narrative to the MSM narrative till you're blue in the face to the people in the vast middle (VM) but they go back to their ABC newshour and get reindoctrinated. The MSM often presents unsupported opinion as fact but the VM accepts it. If the alt-media presents documented facts the VM folks say "how do I know it's true?". They constantly question Alt media but almost always accept the pronouncements of MSM.
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Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 23:41:29 EDT
Well, at least the people have been shown clearly over the past two years that "the news" has in our time become effectively a propaganda arm of the ruling establishment. Whether or not the people have learned what's been shown them is another matter. The past two years have also shown us how gullible people are likely to be, especially when the deceptions being foisted on them come from sources they have come to regard as authoritative.
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You forgot to mention a scientific hoax.
Aloha,
Celeste
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1. Did Ukraine make a mistake giving up it's nuclear weapons in
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2. What was the most egregious scientific hoax of the 20th
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Anthropogenic global warming aka climate change.
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Yes. We are much too docile and trusting in western societies. We trust the government, we trust the news services. We don't think for ourselves. When the US war against Iraq started, I was dating a man from Iran. He didn't believe anything the news was reporting. At that time, I still did, and tried to explain the concept of free press to him. I told him, if one news service reported things that were not true, other news services would investigate and report it correctly. He said that during the Iran/Iraq war, the news told them every day that they were winning the war and there were no casualties. But every night they saw and heard the trucks rumbling by all night, bringing back bodies from the front. Since then, we have lost the freedom of the press. In Canada it's explicit - Justin Trudeau pays all of the big, legacy news companies millions to report in his favour. And they do. It may be less explicit in the US and other countries, but the news services are inhabited by people who have been through the leftist propaganda filled universities, so they see events through their own leftist bias, and report them in ways to further leftist agendas. Centrist or right-leaning news services are rare. Non-existant in Canada, other than 1 or 2 new independent digital ventures. I have known how bad the news is for a long time, but even I was shocked at the outright lies reported by all the Canadian news services during the Freedom Convoy. Usually they use spin and weasel words to paint a leftist picture, and simply ignore any news they can't spin adequately. But during the convoy, Justin Trudeau stood up in Parliament and in news conferences and listed a whole string of outright lies about the protesters - called them racist, misogynist, nazi, white supremacist, criminal. He used every bad name he could think of, and the media reported all of it as if it was true. The CBC is the worst of the lot and is very tight with Trudeau. It became difficult to see which of the CBC and Justin Trudeau was inventing the new stories. One would say something, and right away the other would as well, sometimes the CBC was first and sometimes Trudeau. The stories were outrageous lies, all of them. Most Canadians saw nothing else. Only those of us who watched coverage by the independent companies, and even better, by the many YouTubers who walked around the site filming everything throughout, knew what was really happening. The majority out in the hinterland don't even realize they've been lied to. Pat
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My big concern is that not enough people are really tuned into just how bad the fake news media is. Trump made it a front-page issue but I'm not sure there will be a strong enough personality to maintain the knowledge among the vast middle. Most of those I talk to about these issues still get their news from the fake news MSM. Sure, they think they see thru some of it, but when you suggest to them that Joe Blow Media who's got something up on youtube might have some useful info their reaction is always that Joe Blow isn't a real Jounalist, or isn't part of some institution that gives credibility, etc. You can present counter-narrative to the MSM narrative till you're blue in the face to the people in the vast middle (VM) but they go back to their ABC newshour and get reindoctrinated. The MSM often presents unsupported opinion as fact but the VM accepts it. If the alt-media presents documented facts the VM folks say "how do I know it's true?". They constantly question Alt media but almost always accept the pronouncements of MSM. To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 3:05 PM
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My big concern is that not enough people are really tuned into just how bad the fake news media is. Trump made it a front-page issue but I'm not sure there will be a strong enough personality to maintain the knowledge among the vast middle. Most of those I talk to about these issues still get their news from the fake news MSM. Sure, they think they see thru some of it, but when you suggest to them that Joe Blow Media who's got something up on youtube might have some useful info their reaction is always that Joe Blow isn't a real Jounalist, or isn't part of some institution that gives credibility, etc. You can present counter-narrative to the MSM narrative till you're blue in the face to the people in the vast middle (VM) but they go back to their ABC newshour and get reindoctrinated. The MSM often presents unsupported opinion as fact but the VM accepts it. If the alt-media presents documented facts the VM folks say "how do I know it's true?". They constantly question Alt media but almost always accept the pronouncements of MSM. From: jimntempe@...
To: [email protected]
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My big concern is that not enough people are really tuned into just how bad the fake news media is. Trump made it a front-page issue but I'm not sure there will be a strong enough personality to maintain the knowledge among the vast middle. Most of those I talk to about these issues still get their news from the fake news MSM. Sure, they think they see thru some of it, but when you suggest to them that Joe Blow Media who's got something up on youtube might have some useful info their reaction is always that Joe Blow isn't a real Jounalist, or isn't part of some institution that gives credibility, etc. You can present counter-narrative to the MSM narrative till you're blue in the face to the people in the vast middle (VM) but they go back to their ABC newshour and get reindoctrinated. The MSM often presents unsupported opinion as fact but the VM accepts it. If the alt-media presents documented facts the VM folks say "how do I know it's true?". They constantly question Alt media but almost always accept the pronouncements of MSM.
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From: David Smith
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 23:41:29 EDT
Well, at least the people have been shown clearly over the past two years that "the news" has in our time become effectively a propaganda arm of the ruling establishment. Whether or not the people have learned what's been shown them is another matter. The past two years have also shown us how gullible people are likely to be, especially when the deceptions being foisted on them come from sources they have come to regard as authoritative.
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Well, Someone, I can see why you want to remain anonymous. When you write an entire paragraph of fake news I'm sure you don't want anyone to know where it comes from.
Aloha,
Celeste
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My big concern is that not enough people are really tuned into just how bad the fake news media is.? Trump made it a front-page issue but I'm not sure there will be a strong enough personality to maintain the knowledge among the vast middle.? Most of those I talk to about these issues still get their news from the fake news MSM.? Sure, they think they see thru some of it, but when you suggest to them that Joe Blow Media who's got something up on youtube might have some useful info their reaction is always that Joe Blow isn't a real Jounalist, or isn't part of some institution that gives credibility, etc.? You can present counter-narrative to the MSM narrative till you're blue in the face to the people in the vast middle (VM) but they go back to their ABC newshour and get reindoctrinated.? The MSM often presents unsupported opinion as fact but the VM accepts it.? If the alt-media presents documented facts the VM folks say "how do I know it's true?". They constantly question Alt media but almost always accept the pronouncements of MSM.
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1. Did Ukraine make a ,mistake giving up it's nuclear weapons in 21994?
No. Having them would simply have increased the chance for accidents, escalation and misuse. Doesn't seem to me they have yet suffered defeat for the lack of them!
2.? What was the most egregious scientific hoax of the 20th century?
I seem to be drawing a blank, except for the matter of Covid-19 vaccine marketing?and general misinformation...?
3.? Should biological males who self identify as female be allowed to compete against biological females in athletic events?
Depends upon the event, but I do believe the research should be done to show a level playing field without use of chemical aides.?
4.? Who will be out of power first - Putin or Trudea?
Not an oracle, sorry.?
5.? Does the current situation in eastern Europe remind you of June 1914?
Somewhat. There are obvious comparisons, but I also wonder if technology is not in many ways showing us how outmoded the older nationalism and war strategies have become?
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Excellent answers - especially to #2
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1. Did Ukraine make a mistake giving up it's nuclear weapons in 1994?
Yes
2. What was the most egregious scientific hoax of the 20th century?
Anthropogenic global warming aka climate change.
3. Should biological males who self identify as female be allowed to compete against biological females in athletic events?
Of course not. The whole idea is nonsense. Males and females compete separately, not so everybody can feel all warm and fuzzy because they're competing against their own gender, but because male bodies are on average bigger, stronger, heavier and faster than female bodies. Competing against each other can be dangerous to someone with a female body in some sports, and even when it's not dangerous there is no possibility of equal competition. So what matters is the body, not the chosen gender. If you have chosen to be a girl but you live in a male body, you should compete against other male bodies. Be a girl in every other aspect of your life if that's what you want, but for physical competition gender doesn't matter, physical body does.
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The same should apply to housing people in public institutions such as jails. There are too many women being raped by the "women" housed with them who have fully intact male bodies. If you have a penis you belong in a male housing unit, not among female bodies. Simple. I don't understand why there is even a controversy over this, it is so obvious. If you have made the full commitment to being a girl by having male parts surgically removed, then you could be housed with female inmates. But for sports competitions, if your body was male through puberty it has grown bigger and stronger muscles and longer arms and legs that will not change; your natural competitors are other male bodies.
I predict that a lot of these male athletes who have become girls for competition will suddenly decide, after their competitive careers are finished, that they don't really want to be girls after all, and reverse their "conversions". There are too many of them for this to be anything other than taking advantage of their physical advantage over girls with female bodies. And the ones in jails have claimed to be women in most cases specifically to get into women's prisons so they can freely commit rape.
True gender dysphoria is very rare. The epidemic of trans happening now is driven by other things, those mentioned above among others. Adolescent girls are claiming to be trans in ridiculous numbers, absolutely impossible to happen naturally. In part, all this is being pushed by "woke" teachers who should all be fired. It's also the only way to get yourself into one of the "special" groups under the despicable doctrine of woke. Being "oppressed" is the only thing that gives you status in the woke world. To be classed as oppressed you must be either black, homosexual, or trans. Being female ranks if you're a black or lesbian female but not if you're white. So, to be part of the "in" crowd, which every teenager has always craved, they must declare themselves trans.
A generation ago young girls were killing themselves with eating disorders and life-threatening weight loss to be "in". Now they are destroying their lives just as thoroughly by taking hormones or having surgery to become trans, leaving them mutilated and infertile when they finally grow up and realize what they have done. The big difference is that, last generation, adults recognized the danger girls were putting themselves in, and tried to help them recover. Now, there are no adults in the woke world; teachers, therapists, and even doctors encourage them and give the harmful drugs and surgeries without adequate psychological testing or counselling.
The only solution is to defeat the woke movement and get the world back in the hands of adults.
4. Who will be out of power first - Putin or Trudeau?
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Good question. In personality and character the 2 of them are almost identical, ruthless narcissistic psychopaths. At the moment, Putin is by far the more dangerous. He has training and experience, and operates in a country that is accustomed to authoritarian rule and corruption. Trudeau has neither the training nor the experience, and is operating in a country accustomed, until the last 6 and 1/2 years, to freedom, autonomy, and good governance. And Trudeau's natural incompetence makes him less dangerous. He doesn't inflict all of the harm that he wants to because he simply doesn't know how to get things done. Really, his incompetence is his only positive quality. But that only answers which one SHOULD be taken out of power first, not which one will be.
Trudeau has just announced a deal with Canada's 3rd political party, the NDP, to prop up his minority government and keep him in power until 2025, when an election must be held. This deal doesn't really change anything; the NDP have been propping him up all along, voting with the Liberals on every question. This deal just formalizes what they were already doing. But it means we know the government won't fall to a non-confidence vote. The Liberal caucus could still remove Trudeau in an instant, but they won't, not unless he does something to really make them angry, and they weren't bothered a bit by his authoritarian treatment of the Freedom Convoy; they all went along with all of his lies. So don't hold your breath.
Putin, who knows? He will only be removed if his own people decide he's a liability. Even then, he seems to take a lot of precautions to keep them far away from him; he would be hard to take out. Are they unhappy with him? He appears to be losing the war in Ukraine, but is that true? Maybe he's playing NATO like a card shark, holding back most of the strength of his army until NATO, thinking the Russian army is weak, makes a move that he can retaliate against.
Personally, I would like to see both of them gone, and I don't care how it happens in either case.
5. Does the current situation in eastern Europe remind you of June 1914?
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I don't remember 1914.
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1. Did Ukraine make a ,mistake giving up it's nuclear weapons in 21994?
2. What was the most egregious scientific hoax of the 20th century?
3. Should biological males who self identify as female be allowed to compete against biological females in athletic events?
4. Who will be out of power first - Putin or Trudea?
5. Does the current situation in eastern Europe remind you of June 1914?
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