Yes. We are much too docile and trusting in western societies. We trust the government, we trust the news services. We don't think for ourselves.
When the US war against Iraq started, I was dating a man from Iran. He didn't believe anything the news was reporting. At that time, I still did, and tried to explain the concept of free press to him. I told him, if one news service reported things that were not true, other news services would investigate and report it correctly. He said that during the Iran/Iraq war, the news told them every day that they were winning the war and there were no casualties. But every night they saw and heard the trucks rumbling by all night, bringing back bodies from the front.
Since then, we have lost the freedom of the press. In Canada it's explicit - Justin Trudeau pays all of the big, legacy news companies millions to report in his favour. And they do. It may be less explicit in the US and other countries, but the news services are inhabited by people who have been through the leftist propaganda filled universities, so they see events through their own leftist bias, and report them in ways to further leftist agendas. Centrist or right-leaning news services are rare. Non-existant in Canada, other than 1 or 2 new independent digital ventures.
I have known how bad the news is for a long time, but even I was shocked at the outright lies reported by all the Canadian news services during the Freedom Convoy. Usually they use spin and weasel words to paint a leftist picture, and simply ignore any news they can't spin adequately. But during the convoy, Justin Trudeau stood up in Parliament and in news conferences and listed a whole string of outright lies about the protesters - called them racist, misogynist, nazi, white supremacist, criminal. He used every bad name he could think of, and the media reported all of it as if it was true. The CBC is the worst of the lot and is very tight with Trudeau. It became difficult to see which of the CBC and Justin Trudeau was inventing the new stories. One would say something, and right away the other would as well, sometimes the CBC was first and sometimes Trudeau. The stories were outrageous lies, all of them. Most Canadians saw nothing else. Only those of us who watched coverage by the independent companies, and even better, by the many YouTubers who walked around the site filming everything throughout, knew what was really happening. The majority out in the hinterland don't even realize they've been lied to.
Pat
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My big concern is that not enough people are really tuned into just how bad the fake news media is. Trump made it a front-page issue but I'm not sure there will be a strong enough personality to maintain the knowledge among the vast middle. Most of those I talk to about these issues still get their news from the fake news MSM. Sure, they think they see thru some of it, but when you suggest to them that Joe Blow Media who's got something up on youtube might have some useful info their reaction is always that Joe Blow isn't a real Jounalist, or isn't part of some institution that gives credibility, etc. You can present counter-narrative to the MSM narrative till you're blue in the face to the people in the vast middle (VM) but they go back to their ABC newshour and get reindoctrinated. The MSM often presents unsupported opinion as fact but the VM accepts it. If the alt-media presents documented facts the VM folks say "how do I know it's true?". They constantly question Alt media but almost always accept the pronouncements of MSM.
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My big concern is that not enough people are really tuned into just how bad the fake news media is. Trump made it a front-page issue but I'm not sure there will be a strong enough personality to maintain the knowledge among the vast middle. Most of those I talk to about these issues still get their news from the fake news MSM. Sure, they think they see thru some of it, but when you suggest to them that Joe Blow Media who's got something up on youtube might have some useful info their reaction is always that Joe Blow isn't a real Jounalist, or isn't part of some institution that gives credibility, etc. You can present counter-narrative to the MSM narrative till you're blue in the face to the people in the vast middle (VM) but they go back to their ABC newshour and get reindoctrinated. The MSM often presents unsupported opinion as fact but the VM accepts it. If the alt-media presents documented facts the VM folks say "how do I know it's true?". They constantly question Alt media but almost always accept the pronouncements of MSM. From: jimntempe@...
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My big concern is that not enough people are really tuned into just how bad the fake news media is. Trump made it a front-page issue but I'm not sure there will be a strong enough personality to maintain the knowledge among the vast middle. Most of those I talk to about these issues still get their news from the fake news MSM. Sure, they think they see thru some of it, but when you suggest to them that Joe Blow Media who's got something up on youtube might have some useful info their reaction is always that Joe Blow isn't a real Jounalist, or isn't part of some institution that gives credibility, etc. You can present counter-narrative to the MSM narrative till you're blue in the face to the people in the vast middle (VM) but they go back to their ABC newshour and get reindoctrinated. The MSM often presents unsupported opinion as fact but the VM accepts it. If the alt-media presents documented facts the VM folks say "how do I know it's true?". They constantly question Alt media but almost always accept the pronouncements of MSM.
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From: David Smith
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 23:41:29 EDT
Well, at least the people have been shown clearly over the past two years that "the news" has in our time become effectively a propaganda arm of the ruling establishment. Whether or not the people have learned what's been shown them is another matter. The past two years have also shown us how gullible people are likely to be, especially when the deceptions being foisted on them come from sources they have come to regard as authoritative.
