G11 Gemini-1 lvl4 Windows 11
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I have not imaged with my gear for about a year now, and finally have some time to get back into it. My old laptop died a while ago (windows10) and I had 0 issues from the start getting the mount to communicate, and guide very well. I had bought a new laptop, and it one day decided to update itself to win11, without my approval btw..., but I did not think too much of it other than maybe its good to have the latest software and security updates.. Now i am having issues configuring the telescope to communicate with the laptop. Biggest issue i have run into is i have no COM ports to select in gemini, and they do not seem to exist in windows11 control panel at all. Anyone here using a windows11 pc to connect to gemini 1 and could please help me out?
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Dual Mount (G11G)
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Last year during planetary season, I added my 10"LX200 OTA to my G11G mount which contains my SW120ED. I used this combination for few months and had good tracking. By December with the temps dropping, I removed the LX200 and just used the single scope for winter imaging. Now that we are approaching planetary season again, I am considering putting the OTA back on the scope and use the dual scope through the rest of the year. Curious to know if anyone else using the G11G in a dual scope role and does it cause any issues with the mount??? Russ
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How to keep weights from slipping.
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I still use my G11 for outreach. A problem I have is that, particularly as the parts cool during the evening, the counterweights have a tendency to break free and slide to the bottom of the shaft. No amount of manual tightening is sufficient to prevent this, and then there's the problem that the plastic wingnuts on the counterweight screws fatigue and break after too many years of hard usage. Many years ago I contacted Scott L. to find out if they had, say, a collar that could be put on the CW shaft to keep the counterweights in place. Short answer: No. And he had no intention of offering one. Does anyone have a permanent solution?
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G11 vs G11T Dimensions
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I am contemplating upgrading my RA axis to create a G11T. This will give me a little more capacity. I have my G11G mount with the RA extension kit in the observatory now. The observatory is automated, but I do still have to be out there from time to time to make adjustments. Before ordering the new RA axis, I want to make sure it would fit within my small observatory in a way that would still allow the range of movement I require in some situations. Does anyone have a measurement of the RA axis of the G11T? This would be a measurement from the bolt where the RA axis attaches to and pivots on the latitude base to where it attaches to the dec axis. I want to know how much the Titan RA axis juts out from the MA adapter compared to the G11G that I have. George
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Spring Loaded Worm Release Date
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When were the SLM's put into production? ------------------------ Jim W Phoenix, AZ. USA Losmandy G11G w/ L6, NINA 3.0 / ASTAP, ASI2600MC Pro, Sky-Watcher Scopes, Stellarvue SVX Scopes, Canon L Lenses.
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Weight Location
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Yesterday, I reinstalled my dual saddle and now have my SW120ED and LX200 OTA back onto my G11G. I rigged everything up and got it balanced yesterday. Did some test imaging last night and both scopes are now pointed at the same object and the system tracks very well. I did forget to do a trick I learned years ago with regards to scope balance. Place a pencil on the table and but the scope/plate onto of the pencil to find the center of balance and make it on the dovetail plate. Regardless everything is now setup. However; I forgot I thought I read years ago, ideally the counterweights should be as close to the scope as possible (near the top). Yesterday, when I added the extra weights for the dual saddle configuration, I have all 4 of my weights near the bottom. Should this be a concern? Does it cause the motor/gears to work harder? I am thinking tomorrow of moving the weights up and conducting new balance adjustments for this. Thoughts???
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Locked
New to me G11
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Hello. Im looking for some general information about the G11 mount I recently purchased. It was bought new in 2020 and is in excellent condition. Does anyone know what kind of grease Losmandy uses, and also if they use teflon spacers or washers in their assembly? I have an approximately 25 year old G11 that I'm going to be selling as I upgrade to my newer mount. I'm a long time highly satisfied Losmandy user. Thanks for this excellent users group and for any information anyone offers. Charles Martindell
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SOLVED: Help with troubleshoot - Weird RA and DEC stall, near simultaneous
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So finally got time to break the RA down. It was way too tight. My thought is, that it was too tight to begin with, but as our temperatures have significantly increased in the last week AND this mount is outside all the time, thermal expansion took away all of the spare tolerance, and hence it failed. So in this failure mode, both axii will give error messages at the same time. The DEC was fine. Hopefully, I did not scar up the warm too bad. Thank you all so very much for your generous helping spirit. I look forward to return the favor by providing my helpful suggestions in the unlikely event that I know more than you guys! Thanks again and God Bless, Wally
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Paint Coming Off Weights
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Any suggestions what spray paint I can use to touch-up the weights? ------------------------ Jim W Phoenix, AZ. USA Losmandy G11G w/ L6, NINA 3.0 / ASTAP, ASI2600MC Pro, Sky-Watcher Scopes, Canon L Lenses.
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Losmandy G11 (celestron) DEC Axis Bearings replacment
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Hi everyone, Just thought I would post my experience with renewing the main DEC shaft bearings on my G11 I have here in Australia. Its an older unit (2004) and originally a Celestron branded unit but is pretty much the same mount that was made direct by Losmandy at that time and similar to std product (even now). I have been bringing the mount up to scratch over the last few weeks. Generally its in good condition but a bit 'tired'. Updates so far:- 1 - Replaced gearbox 2 - Replaced oldham coupler 3 - Replaced Worm with Brass high grade worm and also the OPW housing. 4 - Added the DEC/RA, extension removal pieces 5 - Knew clutch knobs with teardrop. Each time got an improvement in Guiding, but hit a brick, wall. at around +/-5 Arc and it did not seem to be 'cyclic' but appeared more like 'noise', very random. RA was very good but DEC was poor in comparison. I have cleaned (flushed) all bearings and re greased (slight improvement). finally I took a very close look at the DEC needle bearings on the main axis. after removing all the grease it was clear the lower bearing had some 'rust' on the needle rollers. You could not see it with grease on. Main shaft looked ok. I ordered the bearings from Losmandy which were not too expensive. Checked the web for anyone doing this before and couldn't really find anything. Here was my process. Isolate the lower DEC assembly. Remove Gearbox/Motor/Worm drive assy Remove the rear clutch tensioning nut and spacer bearings etc. withdraw the main DEC shaft. I additionally removed the worm drive mounting plate to make handling the tube assembly easier. You can see the two needle bearings, the lower bearing is basically flush (or just under) to the bottom of the tube and the upper bearing is at the bottom of the brass bearing on the upper side of the tube. Thinking which one to remove I thought I would pull out the lower bearing with a 'pilot' bearing puller and the Push out the upper Bearing/Brass assy with a press and dolly. (from the underside) After a bit of fiddling and getting a good grip on the lower edge, the lower bearing it came out. I 3D printed a 'dolly' which fitted down the tube and had a shoulder on it to pick up on the upper bearing. Inverted the tube and pressed out the bearing which basically pressed out the brass tube with it. So I had the bearing inside the brass tube. After making Making another dolly (3D printed) and drop I pressed out the bearing from the brass bearing tube. Now both bearings are out I cleaned up all the assemblies and basically assembled in reverse. CAUTIONS...... NOTE THE BEARINGS ARE NOT BI DIRECTIONAL. there is a bevel on one end and a flat on the other, I am assuming that the 'FLAT' is there to make it easier for a puller to grip so make sure you get it the correct way around. ( if you want to remove it at a later date). Bevel faces out. When pressing in the lower bearing do not go more than flush or just under to the bottom of the tube. Internally there is an undercut to assist with removal. if you push it in too far you will have great difficulty in removing it with a puller as you wont be able to get 'under' the bearing. 1 - So I pressed in the new upper bearing into the brass tube first (another 3D printed dolly') and made it just under the edge. Again make sure you get it the correct way around. 2 - cleaned the upper recess for the brass tube and then lightly lubricate and press in the brass tube until it hits the internal shoulder. 3 - Flip the tube and then press in the lower bearing just below the lower edge. (get it the correct way around) To do this job I purchased a 'PILOT bearing puller' which was approx $35. I also bought myself a 12T hydraulic press form local trade tools outlet for $150. ( Decided to bite the bullet on one as I needed one and every year I end up trying to press bearings.) 3 x 3D Printed ABS dollys (which worked better than I thought). Having just finished thought I would record it as it may be useful for others..... Pictures Old removed bearings and ABS printed 'Dollys' Close up of old bearing showing surface 'rust' contamination. Extracted lower bearing using Pilot Bearing Puller Upper Bearing and brass removed from main tube Pressing the New bearing into the brass tube./bearing. Showing dolly used All the best to everyone. Pete
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Help with troubleshoot - Weird RA and DEC stall, near simultaneous
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after start up, and slew to zenith, Both the RA and DEC stopped, with stall warning / high load. Almost at the same time. After some troubleshooting, This event continued to occur, but took less and less time for this stall pattern to recur, In both axes. Thinking it might be the power source causing some sort of voltage abnormality, I switched that out, but no change in behavior. Got the unit in a shack outside. There have been some lightning strikes within 100 feet, but I do not see why the motors would be affected. The more sensitive stuff works. Anyway, I am out of ideas on how to proceed, I do not think it is a mech mount problem, by the coincidence of both axes being affected. Appreciate any help!
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Standoff thread
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So... The sprinklers got to the gemini last night. I disassembled it and one of the standoffs threads came off. Any idea what the thread size is? Everything on Amazon seems to be metric! Jamie -- jamie.amendolagine@... https://astropifi.blogspot.com/ https://telescopius.com/profile/james_amendolagine
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RA Tracking and corrections
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With the moon up, I decided to tweak my G11G mount and completed a new PEC curve with PEMPRO and uploaded it to the mount. Tracking via PHD2 looks good (apologizes I don't have the numbers) and prior to PEC I also nailed my polar alignment to be spot. My question is that although my PHD2 tracking looks good I did notice there were a lot of RA corrections being made and I was curious if this was normal? I would assume if PEC was on and working there really should be too many RA adjustments showing up in PHD2 graph, but these adjustments were being made it appears every 2.5 sec guide capture.
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DEC error post L6 upgrade
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This week I updated to L6, and tonight was my first night out. Immediately I encounter an odd error that I previously had when I first got my mount. This was best emphasized in N.I.N.A. when I attempted to slew to M81 through the framing tool. First I start getting this error "DEC coordinate is invalid or inaccessible". To be honest I was messing around so much I do not know what I changed that got rid of this error. But what came next has me perplexed, and this is what I was experiencing when I first got my mount: So M81 is RA 09 & DEC +69 (per Cartes du Ciel). In Framing tool NINA reports the same. But what NINA slews to is this: 05/18/2024 23:28:31 09:58:45 49° 24' 17" 19° 47' 52" -00:03:46 19° 47' 33" -2390.23 50267.75 179.38612877930223 Cartes is showing the cursor right over M81, yet plate solving is way off. Better yet it does slew to correct and I get this: 05/18/2024 23:28:05 09:25:10 89° 21' 45" 20° 10' 27" 00:03:42 -20° 10' 27" 2347.97 -51221.63 171.84309889679707 And it goes right back to where it started and 05/18/2024 23:27:39 09:49:14 48° 36' 51" 20° 35' 31" 00:05:44 20° 34' 48" 3640.97 52263.55 179.40811750502564 I restarted Gemini multiple times, even did "Reset SRAM to Factory Defaults". I went to Gemini site and double checked my address to get the coordinates Latitude & Longitude: 45:03:52 -94:02:40 From the mount: Longitude -94°02'40 Latitude +45°03'52 I even tried messing with the time zone offset changing from -5 to -6. This was the problem I had when I first got the mount. I would slew to a target and I would be off as if my time was off my 3-4 hours. Stranger still when I slewed to M101 up around Meridian at this time, my telescope was pointing south when, as if my location was off. Another strange sign was when I slewed to Alp Lyr which was about 35 degrees yet the telescope started to slew as if it was something odd like 5 degrees altitude. I do have a NTP server, and it does appear to sync. The mount currently reports accurately the time from the web UI. One thing to note that I do not believe would have been a factor. I did get the side by side but I don't see how that would have affected anything except if some weird bug in new L6 firmware when rotating DEC.
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Toothy PE Measurement in PEMPro - L6
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I recently upgraded to Level 6 (6.02) and decided to run new PE measurements and generate a PEC curve. I've run into a toothy/jagged PE measurement. I had this issue before with L5 and the solution for this was to adjust ADU values for the star used for the measurement. It is not working in this case. I am using the latest version available of PEMPro (v3.10.07). Things I attempted: Adjust exposure above and below 2 minutes (images below are from 0.5 seconds and show the same pattern as they do at 2 seconds) Choose Losmandy G11 rather than Gemini 4/5/6 as the mount type Choose worm cycles at 2x and 1x within Gemini. Adjusted ADU minimum ADU values as low as 3,000 and maximums as high as 20,000 (5000 for low and 15,000 for high had been original settings) I ran calibration wizard though settings and angles are unchanged from my previous successful measurements. Considering the work that went into getting PEMPro v3 functional for L6, I suspect something related to user error (v2.0) is going on here. An interesting side note, I loaded my old PEMPro-generated PEC curve into Level 6 and have run it for two sessions since updating from L5 to L6. These have been my two best guided sessions ever with this mount. Admittedly, two sessions do not equal evidence of better real-world guiding performance with L6 since there are so many variables that can influence guiding. They are still well within the realm of coincidence, but it is a coincidence that I am liking. George
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Garmin GPS issue for Gemini version 1.04?
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Hi all. Haven't posted here in a long while, mostly because my G11 and Gemini have been working like a dream mount. I've had the mount for 10 years, and made a few upgrades that have improved it substantially. My question is with regard to the Garmin GPS that Losmandy sold with the level 1.04. I tried to use it last night, and it connected with the Gemini just fine, but once the time/date, and location were updated, I noticed that the time and date were wrong. I tried it a second time, with the same results. The lat/long coordinates were correct. I know that there has been a recent glitch with GPS units all over, so I was wondering if this might be the cause. And if so, what remedy is available to me. Thanks in advance for any help I can get from the group. Ron Yates
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Has anyone from Spain updated to level 6?
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Hello, did anyone from Spain update to level 6? I would like to update and I have no idea. greetings
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RS-232 port damaged
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I own a Losmandy G11-Gemini 1. As AAVSO member I’m working in variable stars. My last session was two nights ago. The work was fine in the first night: connect to TheSkyXPro via “ATEN USB –Serial Bridge”, using ASCOM v6.6 as mount, find the star, slew to it, taking images, and so on. But during the second night it was impossible to connect the mount to the planetarium of PC (Windows 10, ic7) through the “ATEN USB –Serial Bridge”. The PC showed that the bridge was connected. I restarted the computer without results. I used NINA and Stellarium, nothing. After I chose GM-11-G Equatorial Mount instead of ASCOM, nothing. I changed the ATEN, with the same result. Finally, I used other PC, the same. If the problem is not the planetarium, the PC, the cable, the conclusion is that the problem is in the RS-232 port. Are you agree? All the other devices connect without problem. I would greatly appreciate your advices. If the RS-232 port is damaged are there solutions? Thanks. Luis Barneo Oviedo, Spain
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Elongated Stars
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Hi everyone. I'm back from the eclipse trip, happily imaging with my GM811G at L6. For the most part everything is going great. Seeing has been really good lately and I've seen total RMS dip into the 0.2's which is the best that I've ever seen. The issue is that RA is usually higher than DEC, something like 1.5 x to 2 x, and I can see really good data, but the stars are elongated. I don't see the elongation very much when the seeing is not quite so good. When RMS tends to be around 0.5 to 0.4, the random jitters from the atmosphere seem to average out better and I get round stars. Data is not nearly so beautiful, but the elongation is not apparent. Any idea how I can tame the RA when seeing is exceptional? I have successfully trained PEC with PEMPro and it seems to work, but it does not make much difference to the guiding performance. First world problems, I know, but does anyone have an idea about how I can tame RA when seeing is exceptional? -- jamie.amendolagine@... https://astropifi.blogspot.com/ https://telescopius.com/profile/james_amendolagine
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Which direction for final move on PA adjustment?
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I'm set up on a permanent pier, which has 4'of concrete in the ground, and 8 embedded bolts per the 'pier bible' how-to book. It's an 8" pipe on top of that and the MA Adapter is bored down directly with no 'rat cage'. I can get great PA and see guiding that shows minor oscillations in Dec both ways. Then the next session I'll see good guiding but Dec is always correcting the same direction, and if I re-run PA it confirms I am off by a fee arc-min. Easy enough to adjust, but with a permanent pier like this I would have expected less. I'm wondering if I have forgotten which direction the last move should be, and perhaps I'm seeing some settling of the gear after making adjistments. So if I'm in front of the scope looking South, which way should my final move be- clockwise or counter clockwise? Brian
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