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From: Brian Valente <bvalente@...>
Date: 3/8/20 11:54 AM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Repacement gears
Hi Deric
if you can send your request to techsupport@... i can hunt that down for you on monday
let me know which specific gears you are looking for - there's a lot of them in there
thanks
Brian
Brian, can you order a spare set of just the gears for the G11G other than the worm gear from Scott ? I think it would be nice to have a set of spares for the survival kit. HAPPY SKIES Deric.
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Cable Tie Down on RA, Advice please.
In an effort to reduce cable drag while imaging on my Titan, I downloaded the cable tie down file,?TieDwnPdPltfrmskpV3.stl, from Titan group site and printed it on a 3D printer.? I made both a PLA and ABS version.? I intend to attach it to the RA cover using 3M VHB tape.?
I also posted on the Titan group.
Advice please? Thanks,
Michael
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Hi Deric
if you can send your request to techsupport@... i can hunt that down for you on monday
let me know which specific gears you are looking for - there's a lot of them in there
thanks
Brian
Brian, can you order a spare set of just the gears for the G11G other than the worm gear from Scott ? I think it would be nice to have a set of spares for the survival kit. HAPPY SKIES Deric.
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Re: New Tutorial video - wavy washer upgrade
Real nice video Brian...!? Looking forward to future video's.
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Brian, can you order a spare set of just the gears for the G11G other than the worm gear from Scott ? I think it would be nice to have a set of spares for the survival kit. HAPPY SKIES Deric.
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Re: Fitting McLennan gearboxes
Folks
Losmandy mounts have been around for decades
in the earlier days people treated the mount as a DIY thing, and customizations were not uncommon
The Mclennan gearboxes were one of those things that people liked to swap out.
Today losmandy mounts are much improved and more refined, and many (i'd say most if not all) the customizations are no longer desired. It's much more of a set-it-up-and-image mount. Scott continues to fine tune and improve the mounts. FYI he also personally tunes each mount that goes out.?
I'm a firm believer that the results speak for themselves, so if people get great results with [fill in the blank] then great. that's really what it's about.?
For anyone looking at the mclennan gearboxes, just a word of caution, it's not all candy and unicorns.
We see a lot of people quietly moving back to the original gearboxes, you don't see that much here. You are also customizing the mount which means the support you are relying on comes from peers who have done this before: it's a custom mount.?
Brian
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Re: Fitting McLennan gearboxes
Accepted, David.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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Re: New Tutorial video - wavy washer upgrade
Hi John
that's a good question. We don't specify it by sharp vs unsharp side. The notion is pretty straightforward: you want the flattest side facing the worm gear. This is so it stays seated and if you really loosen your RA it doesn't pop out accidentally (even if it does, you can always put it back in, but hopefully with the correct side down).
if you aren't sure you can always just place it on a surface and do that test, and whichever side is flat (or flatter) is the side facing the worm gear.
hth
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Other than the tripod extender any other accessories? I assume another counterweight (maybe 2x11#).?
Is there an option to purchase without tripod? I have a Avalon T130 but would need adapter
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Re: New Tutorial video - wavy washer upgrade
Brian,
While not specifically stated in the video, I assume the washer sharp edge side goes down to the lower disc, and the smooth side goes up to the nylon disc. After being compressed inside the mount for a year or two, perhaps the jumpy side won't be as obvious. Some smaller size wavy washers I used in the past lose their spring tension and go flat over time. Hope you can clarify this point. The sharp side would probably dig into the nylon more easily, as has been mentioned in this forum in weeks past.
Many thanks,
John
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Re: New Tutorial video - wavy washer upgrade
Hi Brian,
Thank you for a very informative video.? After watching this video, I dismantled my G-11 in order to check the wavy washer direction.? Actually, the washer was installed around one year ago, after I talked with HGM about the sticky RA.
I found the direction was wrong.? I reseated it correctly as instructed in your video.
masami
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Re: Fitting McLennan gearboxes
Apologies – I misinterpreted what you said … ? D. ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sonny Edmonds
Sent: 08 March 2020 00:06
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Fitting McLennan gearboxes ? [Edited Message Follows] And as a matter of clear record here, David, I did not say you did.
I stated I stopped reading your linked article as soon as I found it disagreeable TO ME!
(Here in the States, we can do that.)
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Re: Fitting McLennan gearboxes
Brendan,
Not sure about the GoTo motors but the stepper motors I used to have on my mount were SAIA (from memory) and I think they were Swiss made.
I had no problem with them and I only sold them because I needed GoTo.
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[Edited Message Follows] The McLennan gearboxes and other issues were issues people were trying to overcome periodic PEC tick issues with the losmandy drive. ?People like this site have been doing it since yr 2000! ?Specificly the early worms PE was not as good as new versions.? Don’t bag the site or David. ?They are both very good resources. David repairs Gemini’s. I can tell you he’s damn good at what he does. ?
as for the Gearbox mod. Many many people have reported significant improvements changing to it ? Mark Crossley is a legend in early losmandy mounts?
Users mileage may vary of course. ! ?The early motors were either French or Chinese but definitely metric.?
Brendan
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Re: New Tutorial video - wavy washer upgrade
Arun,
I meant to say, best to take it apart and look to see if you don't already have the spring washer in yours.
From what Brian explained to me, our GM811G heads are a kind of high-bred. G11 - RA, with a GM-8 - Dec.
So since our GM811G's are probably (But I don't know) the latest of the greatest, maybe the "wavey washer" Spring Washer is already in it.
I could easily dismantle mine to look for you. But I'd prefer not to if I can talk you into dismantling yours instead. ;^) LOL!
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Re: Fitting McLennan gearboxes
The McLennan gearboxes and other issues were issues people were trying to overcome periodic PEC tick issues with the losmandy drive. ?People like this site have been doing it since yr 2000! ?Specificly the early worms PE was not as good as new versions.?
Don’t bag the site or David. ?They are both very good resources. David repairs Gemini’s. I can tell you he’s damn good at what he does. ?
as for the Gearbox mod. Many many people have reported significant improvements changing to it ? Mark Crossley is a legend in early losmandy mounts?
Users mileage may vary of course. ! ?The early motors were either French or Chinese but definitely metric.?
Brendan
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Re: Fitting McLennan gearboxes
" Mr Edmonds
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I *did not* say the Losmandy gearboxes were poor quality.? I said my RA gearbox had become noisy which is true.
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It has every right to have become noisy over the years as the mount is hardly in the first flush of youth.
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I very strongly object to your misrepresenting what I said.
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I do have views about the comparative quality of the McLennan gearboxes and those sold by Losmandy, but didn’t actually say anything about that.
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Moderators please tell this guy off
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David Partridge"
And as a matter of clear record here, David, I did not say you did.
I stated I stopped reading your linked article as soon as I found it disagreeable TO ME!
(Here in the States, we can do that.)
It appears you have a reading comprehension malfunction.
There are others here who also noted exactly what I said.
I think Jaguars and Rolls Royce's?will never grace my driveway as well.
But I do have several friends from Great Britain who relocated here. Great folks.
It would be nice if you were counted in that group. But now, humm, not so sure.
You have a tendency to freak out and fly off the handle.
Enjoy your mount. I enjoy mine just the way it is. All American, and no Metric, or Wentworth in it anywhere.
And if I meant to offend you, Oh, believe me, I could rip you a new one.
I simply disagreed with your linked article.
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Re: Fitting McLennan gearboxes
David,
It is the way you linked it that led me to believe it was your site, assumptions are always dangerous :), however, I also took it that you were endorsing the site, another assumption perhaps but then what is says follows.
I can see that if you use PEC it would have an advantage but I have never done that.
Thanks for the clarification.
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The??website is not in any way related to me.? It belongs to Mark Crossley with whom I have no relationship, and indeed have never met.? So you are *totally incorrect* in your assumption. ? If you press me on the subject, then I can tell you that there is no question in my mind that the McLennan gearboxes are superior to the Losmandy ones in a number of significant ways (partly because they are all metal construction, partly because they use superior bearings and gears, and partly because the internal gear ratios are more amenable to PEC correction (*) than the stock items – though the originals didn’t introduce much in the way of PE).?? ? As a convenience I provided a pointer to the “canonical” article on how to replace the Losmandy gearboxes with McLennan.?? That doesn’t mean I endorse everything the author of that web page says. but regardless of his strong view on the quality of the Losmandy gearboxes the web page information is nonetheless useful. ? (*) The internal gear ratios are integral to the worm period so PE errors from the gearbox can be cancelled out with PEC, which cannot be done with the originals.?? I’d refer you to Cloudynights ? David ? ? David, I do not believe you were misrepresented by the other poster, the first line of the article by you, I assume,, says: The gearboxes supplied with the G11 are pretty poor quality and I searched for some time to find a viable alternative. I have no idea whether the gearboxes now supplied by Losmandy are still the same as you had originally on your mount but maybe you could clarify this. Other than noise reduction what other improvements have you achieved by changing the gearboxes? 9999999
? I *did not* say the Losmandy gearboxes were poor quality.? I said my RA gearbox had become noisy which is true. It has every right to have become noisy over the years as the mount is hardly in the first flush of youth. I very strongly object to your misrepresenting what I said. I do have views about the comparative quality of the McLennan gearboxes and those sold by Losmandy, but didn’t actually say anything about that. Moderators please tell this guy off August.
2026 or 2027.
I stopped reading your link when it started off saying Losmandy gearboxes are poor quality.
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The www.wilmslowastro.com website is not in any way related to me.? It belongs to Mark Crossley with whom I have no relationship, and indeed have never met.? So you are *totally incorrect* in your assumption. ? If you press me on the subject, then I can tell you that there is no question in my mind that the McLennan gearboxes are superior to the Losmandy ones in a number of significant ways (partly because they are all metal construction, partly because they use superior bearings and gears, and partly because the internal gear ratios are more amenable to PEC correction (*) than the stock items – though the originals didn’t introduce much in the way of PE).? ? As a convenience I provided a pointer to the “canonical” article on how to replace the Losmandy gearboxes with McLennan.?? That doesn’t mean I endorse everything the author of that web page says. but regardless of his strong view on the quality of the Losmandy gearboxes the web page information is nonetheless useful. ? (*) The internal gear ratios are integral to the worm period so PE errors from the gearbox can be cancelled out with PEC, which cannot be done with the originals.?? I’d refer you to Cloudynights ? David ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Homer
Sent: 07 March 2020 20:46
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Fitting McLennan gearboxes? David, I do not believe you were misrepresented by the other poster, the first line of the article by you, I assume,, says: The gearboxes supplied with the G11 are pretty poor quality and I searched for some time to find a viable alternative. I have no idea whether the gearboxes now supplied by Losmandy are still the same as you had originally on your mount but maybe you could clarify this. Other than noise reduction what other improvements have you achieved by changing the gearboxes? 9999999
? I *did not* say the Losmandy gearboxes were poor quality.? I said my RA gearbox had become noisy which is true. It has every right to have become noisy over the years as the mount is hardly in the first flush of youth. I very strongly object to your misrepresenting what I said. I do have views about the comparative quality of the McLennan gearboxes and those sold by Losmandy, but didn’t actually say anything about that. Moderators please tell this guy off August.
2026 or 2027.
I stopped reading your link when it started off saying Losmandy gearboxes are poor quality.
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SonnyE
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I just wanted to make sure that everyone understood that the article David linked to does not appear to be written by him, unless it was done under a pseudonym:
"I am Mark Crossley, and you may have guessed I live in Wilmslow, UK."
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David,
I do not believe you were misrepresented by the other poster, the first line of the article by you, I assume,, says:
The gearboxes supplied with the G11 are pretty poor quality and I searched for some time to find a viable alternative.
I have no idea whether the gearboxes now supplied by Losmandy are still the same as you had originally on your mount but maybe you could clarify this.
Other than noise reduction what other improvements have you achieved by changing the gearboxes?
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Mr Edmonds ? I *did not* say the Losmandy gearboxes were poor quality.? I said my RA gearbox had become noisy which is true. ? It has every right to have become noisy over the years as the mount is hardly in the first flush of youth. ? I very strongly object to your misrepresenting what I said. ? I do have views about the comparative quality of the McLennan gearboxes and those sold by Losmandy, but didn’t actually say anything about that. ? Moderators please tell this guy off ? David Partridge ? ? August.
2026 or 2027.
I stopped reading your link when it started off saying Losmandy gearboxes are poor quality.
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SonnyE
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David C. Partridge