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Re: Possible new information sourse

Stefan Wisniowski
 

Thanks John,
For those who would like to go "fishing", the website to access the English
catalogue appears to be


If enough people are interested, it may be possible to organise a more
specific search through the archives, as most of the films are in Russian
and probably less accessible to most of our web search capabilities.
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Stefan Wisniowski
Moderator, Kresy-Siberia

Already there are over 25,000 films in Russian and about 5000
films in English online, as well as thousands of pictures


Re: From Linder Stachnik in England

 

Dear Linder:

I saw your message on Kresy-Siberia. You father would not have been
deported to Krakow in 1940; that city was occupied by the Nazis and
virtually all Polish Army personnel interned or captured by the Red Army
would have been "moved" eastward and not turned over to the Nazis.

Hope this helps,

John Zubal


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Re: Possible new information sourse

Elizabeth
 

Many, many THANKS!
Elizabeth

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Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:12 PM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Possible new information sourse


Hello fellow researchers, I subscribe to Scoop, a online magazine
produced by Lonely Planet, the following article published by them looks
to be very useful to those historical searchers amongst us.

John


Russia
14 December '01
The View From the USSR
Ever had a burning urge to watch the coronation of Tsar Nicholas II? Or
witness the heroics of Yuri Gagarin, the first man in space? Or even
relive the Soviet invasions of Hungary and Czechoslovakia? Up until now
it has been virtually impossible with all 38,000 films and 1 million
photographs of Russia's Central Films and Stills Archive held in guarded
vaults in a 19th century building in Krasnogorsk, outside Moscow, and
access granted only to a select few. However, the entire collection is
being placed online, including a virtually complete collection of
newsreels from 1919 to 1985 documenting the politics, wars, disasters
and people of the former United Soviet Socialist Republic. The project
is being realized thanks to an agreement between Russian authorities and
a Texas-based multimedia companyAbamedia, whose website hosts the
archive. Already there are over 25,000 films in Russian and about 5000
films in English online, as well as thousands of pictures - from Soviet
propaganda posters to oriental art from the Far East and Central As

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Possible new information sourse

John Nieurzyla
 

Hello fellow researchers, I subscribe to Scoop, a online magazine
produced by Lonely Planet, the following article published by them looks
to be very useful to those historical searchers amongst us.

John


Russia
14 December '01
The View From the USSR
Ever had a burning urge to watch the coronation of Tsar Nicholas II? Or
witness the heroics of Yuri Gagarin, the first man in space? Or even
relive the Soviet invasions of Hungary and Czechoslovakia? Up until now
it has been virtually impossible with all 38,000 films and 1 million
photographs of Russia's Central Films and Stills Archive held in guarded
vaults in a 19th century building in Krasnogorsk, outside Moscow, and
access granted only to a select few. However, the entire collection is
being placed online, including a virtually complete collection of
newsreels from 1919 to 1985 documenting the politics, wars, disasters
and people of the former United Soviet Socialist Republic. The project
is being realized thanks to an agreement between Russian authorities and
a Texas-based multimedia companyAbamedia, whose website hosts the
archive. Already there are over 25,000 films in Russian and about 5000
films in English online, as well as thousands of pictures - from Soviet
propaganda posters to oriental art from the Far East and Central As


Re: Work email address

Elizabeth
 

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Whoops.....that's what happens when a
newbie joins!
Elizabeth

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Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Work email address

Elizabeth

you're on a mail list and all posts go to all of the subscribers

Paul


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Paul
this has come to me by mistake
Elizabeth
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Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Work email address

Thanks Stefan and a Happy Christmas to you

Paul

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Paul,
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Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Work email address

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Re: Work email address

 

Elizabeth

you're on a mail list and all posts go to all of the subscribers

Paul


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Paul
this has come to me by mistake
Elizabeth
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Work email address

Thanks Stefan and a Happy Christmas to you

Paul

At 02:17 12/16/2001 +1100, you wrote:
Paul,
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Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 21:18:43 +0000
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Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Work email address

Would the listowners please remove only my WORK email address from the lists as my company is getting very strict about outside mails.
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Re: Work email address

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Paul
this has come to me by mistake
Elizabeth

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Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Work email address

Thanks Stefan and a Happy Christmas to you

Paul

At 02:17 12/16/2001 +1100, you wrote:
Paul,
Only your home e-mail has been retained.

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From: Paul Havers <haverp@...>
Reply-To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 21:18:43 +0000
To: pbs_utilitiesz_q@...,POLAND-ROOTS-L@..., Kresy-Siberia@...,herbarz-l@...
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Work email address

Would the listowners please remove only my WORK email address from the lists as my company is getting very strict about outside mails.
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Re: Work email address

 

Thanks Stefan and a Happy Christmas to you

Paul

At 02:17 12/16/2001 +1100, you wrote:
Paul,
Only your home e-mail has been retained.

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From: Paul Havers
Reply-To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 21:18:43 +0000
To: pbs_utilitiesz_q@...,POLAND-ROOTS-L@..., Kresy-Siberia@...,herbarz-l@...
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Work email address

Would the listowners please remove only my WORK email address from the lists as my company is getting very strict about outside mails.
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Re: Work email address

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Paul
I think this came to me by mistake.
Elizabeth

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Paul,
Only your home e-mail has been retained.
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From: Paul Havers <haverp@...>
Reply-To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 21:18:43 +0000
To: pbs_utilitiesz_q@...,POLAND-ROOTS-L@..., Kresy-Siberia@...,herbarz-l@...
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Work email address


Would the listowners please remove only my WORK email address from the lists as my company is getting very strict about outside mails.
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Re: Social Security Administration

 

Dennis,

Please email me off list, I think I know someone who has the same name as you!? He lives in Atlanta, GA, but grew up in NJ?? Sound familiar?

Jan Birkner

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I was wondering if anyone could help me with an electronic address
for the Social Security Administration in Baltimore, Maryland. The
reason I ask is that i'm in Australia and I found an entry of a Wasyl
Sycz who died in the USA in May 1979. This name is the same as that
of my Grandfathers and I'd thought it would be worth a try to see if
he was in fact my GF.

Thanks
Denis


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Re: Deportations......

 

thanks, Paul!? I never regretted NOT speaking Polish more than I do NOW!

Jan

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Jan

There's not search facility on that page, the index has links to other pages I'll write to the author and see if I can get his permission to translate

Paul


At 19:42 11/30/2001 -0500, you wrote:
Dear Paul,

I sure wish I could read that!! LOL!!!? If you decide to do any translation, please send me one!! IS there a place to search, or any names mentioned?

Jan

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While surfing for something I came across this


the only problem is that it's in Polish, but some of us can read and translate if necessary

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Kresy Pages and "Forgotten Odyssey" Screenings, Canada

 

Thank you Wanda for the info about Stowarzyszenie
Wspolnota Polska.

When the list of screenings with locations, dates, and times
becomes available for "A Forgotten Odyssey," I will be sure to
let my Canadian friends know if posted to the list.

Eve Jankowicz


Re: Bortkiewicze

Stefan Wisniowski
 

Barbara,
This is very helpful teamwork, as it confirms that the Bortkiewicze that Joe
is looking for is the one now in Belarus near Asmjany and Paljany. What we
have not been able to confirm is what has happened to the village itself
(which was probably renamed into something similar sounding).

Joe, I hope that your hunt is going well ... perhaps when you receive your
father's statement from Irene at the Hoover, you can share it with the
group! Also, there are a few screenings of the Forgotten Odyssey being
planned in Canada in early 2002 - which part of the country are you in?

Regards,
--
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Moderator, Kresy-Siberia

From: Bjproko@...
Reply-To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 23:57:45 EST
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Cc: deplib@...
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: Bortkiewicze

I didn't save the postings, but I think you were trying to find some info on
Bortkiewicze a couple weeks ago?

I was looking up some villages in Slownik Geograficzny yesterday. Hope this
helps you:

Bortkiewicze 1.) ws~ Wl~os~c., pow. oszmianski, 1 okr. pol., gm. Polany (15
w.), nalez~y do do~br. skarb. Daukszynszki. Nabyta w 1787 r. przez Ignacego
Waz~yn~skiego od Bortkiewiczo~w, wyszl~a z domu Waz~yn~skich wskutek
eksdywizyi okol~o r. 1830. 2.) B., ws~, pow. dz~win~ski (dyneburski), par.
Krasl~aw.

So there were 2 villages by the name Bortkiewicze, the first one listed being
in Oszmiany powiat (district), 15 wiorsts from Polany.

ShtetlSeeker finds 3 Polany's in Belarus. One is due north of Asmjany, about
halfway to Hrodzi, and now known as Paljany.

Hope this helps,

Barbara Proko


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Re: Bortkiewicze

 

I didn't save the postings, but I think you were trying to find some info on
Bortkiewicze a couple weeks ago?

I was looking up some villages in Slownik Geograficzny yesterday. Hope this
helps you:

Bortkiewicze 1.) ws~ Wl~os~c., pow. oszmianski, 1 okr. pol., gm. Polany (15
w.), nalez~y do do~br. skarb. Daukszynszki. Nabyta w 1787 r. przez Ignacego
Waz~yn~skiego od Bortkiewiczo~w, wyszl~a z domu Waz~yn~skich wskutek
eksdywizyi okol~o r. 1830. 2.) B., ws~, pow. dz~win~ski (dyneburski), par.
Krasl~aw.

So there were 2 villages by the name Bortkiewicze, the first one listed being
in Oszmiany powiat (district), 15 wiorsts from Polany.

ShtetlSeeker finds 3 Polany's in Belarus. One is due north of Asmjany, about
halfway to Hrodzi, and now known as Paljany.

Hope this helps,

Barbara Proko


Re: Kresy Pages

 

Re: Stowarzyszenie Wspolnota Polska is created by Senator Andrzej
Stelmachowski for the purpose of providing assistance to all Polish Peoples
all over the world . The members are senators, members of parlament,
lawyers, church members, social workers, educators, business people, etc on
executive level, . it exists since l990 under the patronate of Polish Senat.
I n short they should know everything about everything that is polish all
over the world
That is in the nutshell.
Wanda


Re: Kresy Pages

 


Kresy Pages

 

Sorry Wanda and list,

but I forgot to mention that I do not speak Polish very well at all.
Can anyone tell me what this organization does? ?Does it
report on Senate proceedings as well as other things?

Thanks a lot,
Eve


Re: Film......................slightly off topic

Elizabeth
 

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Paul :
Would love to have a copy.? I'll reimburse you for the
costs.? Just let me know when, where to send
cheque and how much.
Elizabeth

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Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Film......................slightly off topic

Elizabeth

Unfortunately when I pressed the record button I found out that my video isn't tuned into Sky Tv
but I'm in the process of obtaining a copy, when I do I'll let you know and if you would like a copy
I'll make you one

Paul

At 14:00 12/10/2001 +0100, you wrote:
Plus ca change Paul.
Early 80's met a 30-year-old German on a Greek
island.? I sat for several hours listening to his version
of WW2 (i.e. the 6 million odd people who perished in
the gas chambers was a figment of everyone's imagination..)
At the end of the monologue I quietly
explained I didn't agree with him, nor did many
historians.....? The only thing that shut him up was when
I told him my own mother had been in Dachau.

Did you by any chance record the documentary?
I can't get ITV over here.
Elizabeth
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Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Film......................slightly off topic


> Last night ITV2 showed the SS in Britain, about the 14th SS "Galizien"
> division
> I'm still amazed that in spite of all the evidence presented the author M.
> Melnyk
> and the "others" are still denying and disputing the facts.
> There were German documents that showed the divisions whereabouts and they
> are adamant that
> those documents are wrong. I suggest that if others can watch it they do
as
> it shows the Ukrainian Nationalist's
> mentality to insist that they are innocent of the crimes, they've even
> managed to persuade their
> children that they were the victims
>
> I have posed this question to M. Melnyk, If you state that you're
> Ukrainians fighting for a free Ukraine
> and despise the Poles and all that they stand for. Also you have never
> acknowledged the territory
> being Polish, why then upon your surrender to the British did you all pass
> yourselves as Polish citizens.
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Re: Film..................

 

Stefan,
I received the fvideo and am planning the showing after Christmas, now the
times are bussy.
I know that i have to deposit the money in your account on Bay Street in
Toronto, but iIhave lost the details, so please give them again.
Any ontributions that we will receive from the showing will go to producers
through your account Would it be correct?
Wanda


Re: Kresy Pages

 

wspolnota Polska jest organizacja pozarzadowa dzialajaca pod patronatem
Senatu RP powstala w l990 roku z inizjatywy prof. Andzeja Stelmachowskiego
ktory jest prezesem. Czlonkowie sa senatorzy, poslowie, dzialacze
niepodleglosciowi, hierarchie Kosciola prawoslawnego, katolickiego,
ewangielickiego, wybitni naukowcy rektor Uniwersytetu Jagiellonskiego,
lekarze, dziennikarze, prawniczy, i przedstawiciele przedsiebiorstw. Cel:
umocnienie wiezi Polonii i Polakow zamieszkalych w innych krajach poza
Polska., przez utrzymanie jezyka, kultury , tradycji i niesienie pomocy w
zaspokojeniu roznych potrzeb Polakow tak w Polsce i za agranica.
There are 2 pages of information of responsibilities and actions of Wspolnota
Polska.
their e mail address is: wspolnot@...
and the website:
that is exact address as it appears on my printout of their information page
Their address is Stowarzyszenie "Wspolnota Polska" - Zarzad Krajowy,
00-322 Warszawa, ul. Krakowskie Przedmiescie 64,
telefon (+4822) 827-04-40, 826--20-41-4- the fax is: (+4822) 826-87-75,
I hope You will not have any problems in contacting them on internet or
through the e mail and there is always telephone No available
Good luck
Wanda