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From: Stefan Wisniowski

To: Kresy-Siberia@...

Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 6:49 AM

Subject: FW: [Kresy-Siberia] Welcome Joasia Kubicka

Joasia

I have passed this message on to the group for their consideration!

By the way, as your parents married in Italy and you were born there, your file would be at the Polish Catholic Mission: ?

Stefan Wisniowski

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From: "Jo Sh" <jzmsh@...>
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:02:37 +0100
To: "Stefan Wisniowski" <swisniowski@...>
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Welcome Joasia Kubicka

Hi Stefan
My father's name was Boles?aw Kubicki and my mother was Aniela Kubicka (B?az?ejewska) They were both sent to ZSSR from Wilno. I have found from one of your links that my father was sent to GRAZOWIEC (ID 21275). This was found in the 'Indeks Represjonowanych'. I am so grateful that your links have led me to this information. Regarding my mother, she was sent to TIOMNAJA in Kazachstan ( I still have a letter which she sent from there). I can't find this place on the map...does anyone know about this camp? Both of my parents then joined Gen Anders army in Persia and ended up in Italy where I was born in 1946. We then came to England and were placed in two camps in the North of England 'Lowther Park' in the Lake District and 'Cark in Cartmel' also in the North of England ( I still remember the camps). We finally settled in Lancaster, Lancashire UK where my parents died in 1979. I left ?Lancaster in 1964 to go to university, got married and had three children. I live in Southsea, Portsmouth, on the Southcoast of England. I am trying to write down the family history for my children and would be grateful if anyone in the group could help or in fact knew my parents.
Joasia

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From: "Veronica Higginbotham" <vhigginbotham2@...>

Hello,
Thanks very much for your quick reply.

I live in Toronto Canada.

I came here with my family from England.

Both my parents were deported as small children from different places in
Wolyn.

My father became a "junek', a child soldier.

My Grandfather died in Uzbekhistan.

Mother, her sister, little brother and my Grandmother spent the remainder of
the war in Africa. Her two teenage brothers went to fight at Monte Cassino.

Fathers' mother and sister went to India, while he, his Father and two young
brothers went to Palestine.

After the war they went to England where they faced new and difficult
challenges, including discrimination. They also had to sustain denial of the
horrors that they had endured.

This kind of trauma is shared by the children of the deported. Scattered
around the globe, we have all heard the agonizing memories of unbearable loss
and survival in the face of soul destroyng brutality.

I believe that it is a necessary part of the healing process to remember these
tragic events and honour those that so bravely survived them.

We must not allow this to be forgotten, painful as it is to open one's heart.

We must continue to speak of it and gather the memories not just for the sake
of dear family and friends, but for ourselves. For the suffering witnessed
first hand is also borne by the next and future generations, deeply held as
survivor guilt.

The truth of those events must known, the stories shared, over and over if
necessary.

I deeply appreciate the opportunity to be part of this very special group.

I am certain that everyone knows from experience exactly how I, my parents and
my three sisters and brother feel.

Again, thank you.

From: "Veronica Higginbotham" <vhigginbotham2@...>

Hello,
Thanks very much for your quick reply.

I live in Toronto Canada.

I came here with my family from England.

Both my parents were deported as small children from different places in
Wolyn.

My father became a "junek', a child soldier.

My Grandfather died in Uzbekhistan.

Mother, her sister, little brother and my Grandmother spent the remainder of
the war in Africa. Her two teenage brothers went to fight at Monte Cassino.

Fathers' mother and sister went to India, while he, his Father and two young
brothers went to Palestine.

After the war they went to England where they faced new and difficult
challenges, including discrimination. They also had to sustain denial of the
horrors that they had endured.

This kind of trauma is shared by the children of the deported. Scattered
around the globe, we have all heard the agonizing memories of unbearable loss
and survival in the face of soul destroyng brutality.

I believe that it is a necessary part of the healing process to remember these
tragic events and honour those that so bravely survived them.

We must not allow this to be forgotten, painful as it is to open one's heart.

We must continue to speak of it and gather the memories not just for the sake
of dear family and friends, but for ourselves. For the suffering witnessed
first hand is also borne by the next and future generations, deeply held as
survivor guilt.

The truth of those events must known, the stories shared, over and over if
necessary.

I deeply appreciate the opportunity to be part of this very special group.

I am certain that everyone knows from experience exactly how I, my parents and
my three sisters and brother feel.

Again, thank you.

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From: "Jo Sh"
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:02:37 +0100
To: "Stefan Wisniowski"
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Welcome Joasia Kubicka

Hi Stefan
My father's name was Boles?aw Kubicki and my mother was Aniela Kubicka (B?az?ejewska) They were both sent to ZSSR from Wilno. I have found from one of your links that my father was sent to GRAZOWIEC (ID 21275). This was found in the 'Indeks Represjonowanych'. I am so grateful that your links have led me to this information. Regarding my mother, she was sent to TIOMNAJA in Kazachstan ( I still have a letter which she sent from there). I can't find this place on the map...does anyone know about this camp? Both of my parents then joined Gen Anders army in Persia and ended up in Italy where I was born in 1946. We then came to England and were placed in two camps in the North of England 'Lowther Park' in the Lake District and 'Cark in Cartmel' also in the North of England ( I still remember the camps). We finally settled in Lancaster, Lancashire UK where my parents died in 1979. I left ?Lancaster in 1964 to go to university, got married and had three children. I live in Southsea, Portsmouth, on the Southcoast of England. I am trying to write down the family history for my children and would be grateful if anyone in the group could help or in fact knew my parents.
Joasia

> From: "Mielcarek"
> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:59:58 +0200
> To: "Stefan Wisniowski"
> Subject: Rowne
>
> Witaj Stefanie!
> Sciagnalem sobie kiedys ze strony internetowej (nie pamietam z jakiej) dwa
> zdjecia dotyczace miejscowosci Rowne (wiecej nie bylo).
> Poniewaz na Grupie temat Rownego byl poruszany, to pomyslalem, ze Ci je
> wysle. Moze komus przydadza sie.
>
> Pozdrawim
> Andrzej