For any members who missed it, the report I issued on the Second Anniversary
of the Kresy-Siberia Group has been posted on the website at:


c

As I said in the report, what the next year and beyond holds for the group
is up to you, the members.

2004 is an important year, marking the 60th anniversary of heroic victory in
the Battle of Monte Cassino (May 11-18, 1944) and tragic defeat in the
Warsaw Uprising (August 1 - October 2, 1944).

As an all-volunteer group, we depend completely on the initiative and
generosity of our members. If you have any ideas or just would like to help
out somehow, please e-mail me on Kresy-Siberia-Owner@...


Best regards
Serdecznie pozdrawiam,


Stefan Wisniowski
Moderator
Sydney Australia

I would like to share a message I received at www.andersarmy.com from
a retired Canadian Army Officer.

I would like to introduce myself to your group.
I am Ryszard Grzybowski and am very new to the web.
However I am the son of an osadnik and the chairman of OROK, Ognisko
Rodzin Osadnikow Kresowych, which in English is the Association of
Army and Civilian settlers of the Eastern Marches of Poland.
I would welcome any correspondence from our membership.

The next important date for our diary, is the unveiling and blessing
of a plaque, commemorating the lives of all osadniks, military and
civilian.
Date: 23.11.03
Time: noon, after mass

Location: St. Andrew Bobola's Church, Hammersmith London, UK



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deported, enslaved and killed by the Soviet Union during World War Two."
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My father's wedding (to his first wife) took place in Truskawiec on
August 1, 1939. Thanks for the photos.

Henryk

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Truskawiec famous pre 1939 spa. Nowadsys Ukraine.

Milions Poles visted this place before second war.

Look at

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Bialystok Poland

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Zyg:

You've probably got this far already but Targowica can be found on....


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No luck with Ulanska Dola though.


Michael Kulik,
Walsall, England.

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wrote:

I'm unable to find my parent's village on maps or any reference on
the web. They lived in Ulanska Dola in Wolyn. I heard them also
mention that their village was near a town called Targowica. Can
anyone help me find this place??

Zyg Martynowicz

Stephen:

I hope I will be proved wrong, but it is possible that you will not
receive a reply from the Sikorski Institute (SI), as has been the
experience of many. Unfortunately the SI is staffed by unpaid and
mainly part time staff and the organisation has to make do with very
limited resources.

Also it is sad to say, but all very true, (but I can say this from
personal experience) that the SI is languishing somewhat behind the
times. You may be better off telephoning and trying to arrange a
personal visit should this be practical.

Above all you will need to be both persistant and patient.


Michael Kulik
Walsall,
England.




--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Stephen Wierzbicki
<stephenwierzbicki@y...> wrote:

PS Does anyone know how the process works with the
Sikorski Institute? I am still waiting for a reply
from them after three weeks.

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Does anyone have photos or other info on Zdzienciol (not sure of spelling). I believe it is quite close to Grodno.

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Irene Tomaszewski

Montreal

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There is a very interesting article in this month's online edition of
the Sarmatian Review entitled: "Writing Counterhistory in Non-
Germanic Central Europe."

The article touches on Anders Army in Palestine but it's scope is
broader and discusses how "Polish stories" are sytematically edited
out of history. It can be found at:



For anyone interested, there is also a review of "The Brief Sun" in
the same edition of the Sarmatian Review at:



For the new members, The Brief Sun is a historical novel about
Anders' Army. An online edition is available by clicking on "files"
on the home page of the Kresy-Siberia Group.

Bob

Have you tried the 'Shtetleseeker' on the jewishgen.com website? It's a
great tool( and website) for finding villages.

I'm unable to find my parent's village on maps or any reference on
the web. They lived in Ulanska Dola in Wolyn. I heard them also
mention that their village was near a town called Targowica. Can
anyone help me find this place??

Zyg Martynowicz

To All,

It would great if we put together on our site a central area that
would give detailed information as to who to write to, what to ask
for, what you will need to submit, specific form needed, addresses,
phone numbers and other data regarding question we have about our
relatives, their lives, our past history etc.

There seems to be a great need for a central area on our site for
this.

I hope someone will take on this duty, review all of the past
postings and assemble this in a logical form.

Julek

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"Teraz Polska" - Touristic promotion of Poland pre 1939

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Tomek Wisniewski

Bialystok Poland

Hi Joasia,
I am Stephen Wierzbicki and am also requesting
information from MoD UK. I seem to be a little further
ahead in the process than you at the moment so I
thought it might be helpful if I let you know what
documents you will need to supply to MoD before they
will release any records of service.

I found that replies take about 10 days in UK.
You will have to prove that you are next of Kin (NOK).
To do that you need to do two things (presuming the
person you want details of is deceased):

1. If you are the widow of or the widow is alive you
will require a copy of the service members death
certificate and a copy of the widows marriage
certificate. The widow will also have to complete and
sign MoD Form 1000 (supplied by MoD) to release
service records to the widow without contravening the
UK data protection act. If you want the details sent
to you the widow will have to supply a letter giving
permission.

2. If you believe that you are NOK then you will need
to supply a copy of the deceased service persons death
certificate and a copy of your own birth certificate
stating the relationship. Again if you are not the
legal NOK then you will need to have the birth
certificate of the NOK and a letter agreeing top let
you have the service records. The relavant person will
also have to complete and sign MoD form 1000 to
confirm Kinship.

Hope this is of help and allows you to prepare
documents before the MoD reply with the MoD Form 1000
and make for a quick turn around.

Good luck
Regards
Stephen Wierzbicki

PS Does anyone know how the process works with the
Sikorski Institute? I am still waiting for a reply
from them after three weeks.

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I'm unable to find my parent's village on maps or any reference on
the web. They lived in Ulanska Dola in Wolyn. I heard them also
mention that their village was near a town called Targowica. Can
anyone help me find this place??

Zyg Martynowicz

Czesc Ryszard
Welcome to the group - I'm glad to hear from you at long last!
Please tell us something about your background.
Pozdrowienia
Elzunia Gradosielska-Olsson
Sweden
And member of OROK


Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:02:09 -0000
From: "ryszardgrzybowski" <pgrzyb@...>
Subject: New on-line member

I would like to introduce myself to your group.
I am Ryszard Grzybowski and am very new to the web.
However I am the son of an osadnik and the chairman of OROK, Ognisko
Rodzin Osadnikow Kresowych, which in English is the Association of
Army and Civilian settlers of the Eastern Marches of Poland.
I would welcome any correspondence from our membership.

The next important date for our diary, is the unveiling and blessing
of a plaque, commemorating the lives of all osadniks, military and
civilian.
Date: 23.11.03
Time: noon, after mass

Location: St. Andrew Bobola's Church, Hammersmith London, UK

Hi Everyone!

My name is Kenneth Fedzin and I was born, and still live, in Dewsbury,
England. I am 50 years old and I am the second son of Jan Fedzin. My father
was born in 1920 and lived in the village of Dawidkowce, Czortkow province,
in the Tarnopol region. My father died in October 2000.

My Grandfather,Leon Fedzin, and his entire family(including my father)were
deported to Siberia around 1940. My father told me little about this ordeal,
but I do know that their story is exactly mirrored by the film " A Forgotten
Odyssey". I only learned about, and ordered, the film a couple of months
ago. It was a moving experience for me to come to realise the scale and
nature of these events.

Although my Grandmother died during this ordeal, most of the family survived
but became seperated. My father and a brother came to England,from Italy, at
the end of the war after travelling through Mongolia and Persia. Other
family members were eventually re-settled in the former German territory
which is now Western poland.

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On a recent visit to Poland a cousin, who was also with them in Siberia as
a young boy, gave me a more detailed account than my father had done. But I
still did not know anything about Dawidkowce, my Grandfather or my
G.Grandfather. The family 'Folklore' in Poland told that my Great
Grandfather was actually a Colonel Kazimierz Staszewski. That he was a
Landowner and he too was exiled to Siberia in the 19th C. by the Russians
and had his land confiscated. After escaping he married a Russian woman
called Fedzin and took her name to avoid re-capture.That is all anyone ever
knew, nothing more. This prompted me to research my family history and this
is also how I discovered the 'Kresy' website.

Only this month I have received this information from a lady in Poland who
is helping me. Col. Staszewski was captured by the Russians whilst
acting as a Commander in Chief during the 1863 Insurrection. He declared
that he was an Austrian liege, and in 1865 he was sentenced to 8 years hard
labour in Western Siberia. An 1870 Manifesto granted him pardon and he
returned to Poland. However, he was soon recognised/betrayed and reported to
the Authorities. He thus appeared before a Court Martial in 1871 under his
real name of Leopold Marcin Golebiewski, son of Ignacy Golebiewski, born
around 1832 in the estate of Mroga Gorna, in the Brzeziny District. He was
charged as a deserter from the Russian 83rd Samarski Regiment(there was of
course no Polish army at this time). He was banished to Eastern Siberia on
10th June 1871. An 1883 manifesto allowed him to return only to Western
Siberia, under Police control, but without repayment of his fortune or
titles.

I have been reading the e-mails with some interest. If anyone can offer any
info about my family, or the villages mentioned, I would be delighted to
hear from you.

Regards, Ken.

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Dr. Stiftel should visit my website Poland and World War II 1939- 1945
at where on page 19 Aug.1942 she
will find a photo of Polish soldiers in Teheran.Fifth from left is
Dr.Wassner and next to him stands Mrs. Wassner,third from right is
Dr.Lippel, Jews from the town of Stryj.
On page25 she will find a photo of three Polish student flyers. The
airman in the centre is Calik Orzechowski, Jew from Bialystok.

Roman Skulski



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wrote:

Dear Sirs,
I am glad to get emails regarding Jewish soldiers in Anders Army,
but I apologize for writing wrong email address.
my direct email address is:

sstiftel@h...

I am Mrs. Dr. Shoshana Stiftel
Thank you all for kind answer to my requests,
Shoshana