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Re: Introducing myself....

 

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hi natalia and welcome to the group? hope you find it rewarding as i do
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steffan lubniewski?


Re: Introducing myself....

 

Welcome and bravo Natalia

It is good that you feel the way you do because the future looks bright as your generation are the future, it is thanks to likes of your family that Popland Europe and the wider world are as they ae.

They never lost faith, hope or love and isnt that the way for the world to live.



Bye 4 now Hela.




From: "natalia maliszewski" <maliszewstadeusz@...>
Reply-To: Kresy-Siberia@...
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Introducing myself....
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 02:34:42 -0000



Hi everyone! I'm Natalie and i just turned 18. I found this forum
when I was researching information about the labor camps in
Kazakhstan and Siberia. My parents immigrated to America from Poland
when I was 8 years old, so my roots are of Poland. My grandmother,
her 3 sisters and mother were all deporteees from Eastern Poland,
and they were forced to work in the labor camps in Kazakhstan. I
know all of their stories and feel responsible to pass on their
experiences and pain inflicted by the USSR during WWII.






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Re: Thanks

 

Dear Chris

Welcome and Thank you for sharing your information and experiences.

Maybe at last the recognition and aknowledgment of the sacrifices and hardships our ancestors endured in the belief that they were doing so for a greater purpose will be afforded them and that this present and future will be a positive testimony of the successes they and their progeny have achieved.

We live in an age where everything has to now but this is proof, if it were needed, to the saying everything comes to those who wait(and are proactive whether a lot or little)


Bye 4 now Hela.




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Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Thanks
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 16:21:13 -0700 (PDT)



Dear friends at Kresy-Siberia

Thanks for your recent comments and encouragement. I
look forward to contacting some of you individually to
get copies of the memoirs you have published. I want
to learn as much as possible. (I don't even know in
which camp my family was kept.)

One of the few things I know about the circumstances
of the deportation of my grandparents and my mother,
is that the soviets allowed my grandfather to build a
cabin in their camp with another man. I don't know if
this was common or unusual. My mother used to tell me
that this was unusual and that my grandfather had some
kind of status in the camp. Does anyone have any
insight into this or some context to help me
understand why my grandfather might have had this
privilege?

(Last night I found two photographs of this cabin, one
of the interior and the other of my grandfather
building it. I will scan them soon to share, as I've
heard that such photos are uncommon and may be of
interest.)

Best

Chris





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Introducing myself....

natalia maliszewski
 

Hi everyone! I'm Natalie and i just turned 18. I found this forum
when I was researching information about the labor camps in
Kazakhstan and Siberia. My parents immigrated to America from Poland
when I was 8 years old, so my roots are of Poland. My grandmother,
her 3 sisters and mother were all deporteees from Eastern Poland,
and they were forced to work in the labor camps in Kazakhstan. I
know all of their stories and feel responsible to pass on their
experiences and pain inflicted by the USSR during WWII.


US Senate Bill S2844 concerning Poland

joyce kelly
 

Dear Stefan,
?
I got this message about Senate Bill S2844 concerning visas for Polish citizens from another Yahoo Group. ?I didn't know if you and the group were aware of this measure.? Sincerely, Joyce Kelly
?
Received the below email today and thought you all should be aware of it.
Mary-Ann
Rockledge, FL


----- Original Message -----
From: "Polish American Congress"
To:
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 5:12 PM
Subject: Support Senate Bill S2844 - URGENT!


This is an urgent alert to members of the Polish American Congress and all
members of Polonia.? Your support is needed regarding this important issue.
Kindly review this e-mail, then e-mail it to family members and friends, and
ask them to take action as soon as possible.

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? October 21, 2004

Dear Members of Polonia:

???? We would like to bring to your attention an issue of great concern to
all of? Polonia.? We are alarmed to have learned from an update on U.S.
Senate Bill 2844, Calendar No. 715, that an unidentified Democratic Senator
has issued a hold which means an objection to prevent the bill from being
passed by a voice vote.? Senate Bill 2844, introduced by Senator Rick
Santorum and Senator Barbara Mikulski, would designate Poland as a visa
waiver country.? Upon passage, Polish citizens visiting the U.S.A. within a
90-day period would not have to apply for a visa and, thus, Polish citizens
would be treated with the respect they deserve as age-old American allies.

??? The update confirmed that all Republican Senators cleared the bill with
no objection.? However, one Democratic Senator, unknown to the bills
sponsors, placed an objection on the bill, blocking passage by the Senate of
this vital-for the Polish people-legislation.

??? The objection is of grave concern to Polonia.? More than any other
country, Poland deserves consideration for visa waiver legislation for its
tireless and heroic efforts to end Communist oppression, building a viable
democracy in Central Europe, and for its courageous support of Americas war
against world terrorism and the conflict in Iraq.

??? Polish Americans want to know which Senate Democrat stopped the
legislative process of granting visa waivers to Poles by placing an
objection on Bill 2844.? You are urged to contact your Senators to let them
know that Polish Americans want this bill placed back on the Senate calendar
for immediate consideration.

??? You are urged to call your Senators office in Washington, DC, and their
local state office.? You are asked to call the offices of the Senate
leadership in Washington, DC:

??? Call Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist - (202) 224-3135
??????? You can also fax a letter to Senator Frist at (202) 228-1264
??? Call Senate Democratic Minority Leader Tom Daschle - (202) 224-5556
??????? You can also fax a letter to Senator Daschle at (202) 224-6603
??? Call Senate Democratic Minority Whip Harry Reid (202) 224-2158
??????? You can also fax a letter to Senator Reid at (202) 228-2577
??? You can email the Senators through www.senate.gov and then clicking the
??? Senators name and e-mailing your message.

??? Let Senators know you want action on U.S. Senate Bill 2844, Calendar No.
715, which would designate Poland as a visa waiver country, AND ask which
Senator placed an objection on Senate Bill 2844.

Sincerely,

Edward J. Moskal??? Les Kuczynski?????????????????????? Cas Lenard
President?????????? National Executive Director???????? Executive Director
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Washington, DC



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Thanks

Chris Conway
 

Dear friends at Kresy-Siberia

Thanks for your recent comments and encouragement. I
look forward to contacting some of you individually to
get copies of the memoirs you have published. I want
to learn as much as possible. (I don't even know in
which camp my family was kept.)

One of the few things I know about the circumstances
of the deportation of my grandparents and my mother,
is that the soviets allowed my grandfather to build a
cabin in their camp with another man. I don't know if
this was common or unusual. My mother used to tell me
that this was unusual and that my grandfather had some
kind of status in the camp. Does anyone have any
insight into this or some context to help me
understand why my grandfather might have had this
privilege?

(Last night I found two photographs of this cabin, one
of the interior and the other of my grandfather
building it. I will scan them soon to share, as I've
heard that such photos are uncommon and may be of
interest.)

Best

Chris





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Re: Introducing Myself

jurek_wb
 

Hi and welcome to the group. Interested to read that your mother was
a Hartman as my mother was one also. My grandfather Hartman came
from Warsaw and so was 'fortunate' enough to be deported to Germany
as opposed to Siberia.

Chances are that there is no link between us, but the amount of
times someone has found a link through this forum that I feel it
would be remiss of me not to comment.

All the best,

Jurek.



--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Chris Conway
<cristobalconway@y...> wrote:

My mother, Magdalena Hartman, was interned in a
Siberian prison camp with her parents, George Hartman
and Irena Hartman (maiden name Szrajer). My
grandfather, George, was an officer in the Polish
cavalry. Eventually, my grandparents and my mother
left the camp and travelled through Persia to India,
and from there to the U.S.


Re: Introducing Myself

 

Chris

As a family, we went the self-publishing route with my father-in-law's memoir. I strongly recommend it.

You will be astonished by the feedback you'll receive, especially from 2nd & 3rd generation Poles who just did not realise they had once had heroes in their midst. It's books like these that cause the scales to fall. DO IT!

g
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London N1 7DJ

020 7226 3353
0777 1760 999

www.grahamsanders.com/polishspirithome.htm

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Re: Introducing Myself

Lech Lesiak
 

--- Chris Conway <cristobalconway@...> wrote:


I am very fortunate to have a memoir that my mother
wrote when she was 13 years old, called "Journey to
Freedom," in which she tells the story of her journey
from Poland to New York City. I hope to self-publish
it soon (not for profit, but simply as a document of
value for the telling of this fascinating story of the
Polish people).

In heartily encourage you to do so. This is a piece
of WWII history that is little known or understood in
North America.

I think it important to get as many personal stories
out as possible.

Good luck in your efforts.

Cheers,
Lech
Edmonton Alberta

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Re: Introducing Myself

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Hi Chris,
I am?an ex-deportee and I would be interested to know where were your parents deported. It might be that we were deported to the same area. I was?near Barnaul (Altayski Krai). As soon as we got the "amnesty" we went south to look for the Polish Army but that's another story...??Please let?me know more about the palce of deportation of your family.
Romuald Lipinski
Virginia USA??


-----Original Message-----
From: Zbigniew Bob Styrna
Sent: Oct 21, 2004 8:24 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: RE: [Kresy-Siberia] Introducing Myself

Chris,

Welcome to the group and I hope you find what you are looking for. Your
mother was very wise to document her journey and was lucky enough to carry
it with out of Siberia.

The picture of Siberia would be of great value to all our members I'm sure
since pictures of WWII Siberia are pretty much NON _EXISTENT.? I've never
see any myself.

Regards

Zbyszek



-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Conway [mailto:cristobalconway@...]
Sent: October 21, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Introducing Myself


Dear Friends,

It is my understanding that new members often
introduce themselves to the group upon joining. My
name is Chris Conway and I am a professor of Latin
American literature at the University of Texas at
Arlington.

My mother, Magdalena Hartman, was interned in a
Siberian prison camp with her parents, George Hartman
and Irena Hartman (maiden name Szrajer). My
grandfather, George, was an officer in the Polish
cavalry. Eventually, my grandparents and my mother
left the camp and travelled through Persia to India,
and from there to the U.S.

I am very fortunate to have a memoir that my mother
wrote when she was 13 years old, called "Journey to
Freedom," in which she tells the story of her journey
from Poland to New York City. I hope to self-publish
it soon (not for profit, but simply as a document of
value for the telling of this fascinating story of the
Polish people). I am also fortunate in that my family
has some photographs from? my mother's time in
Siberia, as well as photos of her time in India. I
will try to gather? some of the Siberian ones to share
with this group.

My mother passed away several years ago and I am not
very well informed about this chapter in Polish
history. I look forward to learning from the members
of this group.

Thank you,

Chris



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Re: Introducing Myself

Zbigniew Bob Styrna
 

Chris,

Welcome to the group and I hope you find what you are looking for. Your
mother was very wise to document her journey and was lucky enough to carry
it with out of Siberia.

The picture of Siberia would be of great value to all our members I'm sure
since pictures of WWII Siberia are pretty much NON _EXISTENT. I've never
see any myself.

Regards

Zbyszek

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Conway [mailto:cristobalconway@...]
Sent: October 21, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Introducing Myself


Dear Friends,

It is my understanding that new members often
introduce themselves to the group upon joining. My
name is Chris Conway and I am a professor of Latin
American literature at the University of Texas at
Arlington.

My mother, Magdalena Hartman, was interned in a
Siberian prison camp with her parents, George Hartman
and Irena Hartman (maiden name Szrajer). My
grandfather, George, was an officer in the Polish
cavalry. Eventually, my grandparents and my mother
left the camp and travelled through Persia to India,
and from there to the U.S.

I am very fortunate to have a memoir that my mother
wrote when she was 13 years old, called "Journey to
Freedom," in which she tells the story of her journey
from Poland to New York City. I hope to self-publish
it soon (not for profit, but simply as a document of
value for the telling of this fascinating story of the
Polish people). I am also fortunate in that my family
has some photographs from my mother's time in
Siberia, as well as photos of her time in India. I
will try to gather some of the Siberian ones to share
with this group.

My mother passed away several years ago and I am not
very well informed about this chapter in Polish
history. I look forward to learning from the members
of this group.

Thank you,

Chris



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Introducing Myself

Chris Conway
 

Dear Friends,

It is my understanding that new members often
introduce themselves to the group upon joining. My
name is Chris Conway and I am a professor of Latin
American literature at the University of Texas at
Arlington.

My mother, Magdalena Hartman, was interned in a
Siberian prison camp with her parents, George Hartman
and Irena Hartman (maiden name Szrajer). My
grandfather, George, was an officer in the Polish
cavalry. Eventually, my grandparents and my mother
left the camp and travelled through Persia to India,
and from there to the U.S.

I am very fortunate to have a memoir that my mother
wrote when she was 13 years old, called "Journey to
Freedom," in which she tells the story of her journey
from Poland to New York City. I hope to self-publish
it soon (not for profit, but simply as a document of
value for the telling of this fascinating story of the
Polish people). I am also fortunate in that my family
has some photographs from my mother's time in
Siberia, as well as photos of her time in India. I
will try to gather some of the Siberian ones to share
with this group.

My mother passed away several years ago and I am not
very well informed about this chapter in Polish
history. I look forward to learning from the members
of this group.

Thank you,

Chris



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Re: plebiscite

 

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In his excellent book Revolution from Abroad Jan T. Gross discusses the plebiscite, the political background and some of the consequences.? I touch on it in my book Escape via Siberia.? I hope this helps. Dorit B. Whiteman


Re: Re Karta (again)

Andrzej Mielcarek
 

LP = (Legalna?) Pozycja... (Legal?) Position e.g. arrested
LP = Liczba Porz?dkowa (kolejny NUMER wiersza)

Pozdrawiam,
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Re: POSK

Linder Carole Ladbrooke
 

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Hi,
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In case no-one told you'
POSK;
address 238-246 King Street,
??????????? London,
??????????? W6 ORS
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Email; admin@...
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Ferenc [mailto:jtf@...]
Sent: 20 October 2004 19:34
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] POSK


Hello,

Like Linder, a bit off topic, but I am wondering if anyone has
emailed POSK in London England and received a reply.? I fear that
the email for POSK and for the PMS Bookshop is not being monitored,
or no longer valid. (web site is )

Anyone out there know the real email, or anyone live in London or
area and can send me the proper email?

thanks in advance,

John Ferenc
London, Canada





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Re: POSK

John Ferenc
 

Hmmm.... anyone try phoning POSK?

I'd have to do it nice and early in the morning, and that's not a
pretty sight, I can be pretty irritable (ask my wife....)

john

London, Canada


--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Paul Havers <paul.havers@p...>
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At 19:34 20/10/2004, you wrote:



Hello,

Like Linder, a bit off topic, but I am wondering if anyone has
emailed POSK in London England and received a reply. I fear that
the email for POSK and for the PMS Bookshop is not being
monitored,
or no longer valid. (web site is )

Anyone out there know the real email, or anyone live in London or
area and can send me the proper email?

thanks in advance,

John Ferenc
London, Canada





Re: POSK

Paul Havers
 

few times, still no reply

At 19:34 20/10/2004, you wrote:



Hello,

Like Linder, a bit off topic, but I am wondering if anyone has
emailed POSK in London England and received a reply.? I fear that
the email for POSK and for the PMS Bookshop is not being monitored,
or no longer valid. (web site is )

Anyone out there know the real email, or anyone live in London or
area and can send me the proper email?

thanks in advance,

John Ferenc
London, Canada





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POSK

John Ferenc
 

Hello,

Like Linder, a bit off topic, but I am wondering if anyone has
emailed POSK in London England and received a reply. I fear that
the email for POSK and for the PMS Bookshop is not being monitored,
or no longer valid. (web site is )

Anyone out there know the real email, or anyone live in London or
area and can send me the proper email?

thanks in advance,

John Ferenc
London, Canada


Re: Help needed by Linder

Cindy Benson
 

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Hi Linder,

?

I have used these films before and am familiar with them.? If you tell me the village/religion/year, I can tell you exactly which film to find it on.

?

Cindy Benson

cindy.benson@...

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-----Original Message-----
From: linderladbrooke [mailto:ladbrooke@...]
Sent: October 19, 2004 4:17 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Help needed by Linder

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Sorry, a bit 'off-topic'
Can any kind person, who knows their way around the LDS/FHC [Mormons]
site, take a look and decide which films I should order please? I
know the Lviv Archives for my village/religon/year, have been filmed,
but from then on I'm lost. I need to be sure of dad's surname [choice
of 2, spelt 3 ways] before I write to Moscow for details of
his 'conscription/escape/amnesty'

Any help appreciated. Reply to
'ladbrooke@...'

Thank you
Linder





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Help needed by Linder

linderladbrooke
 

Sorry, a bit 'off-topic'
Can any kind person, who knows their way around the LDS/FHC [Mormons]
site, take a look and decide which films I should order please? I
know the Lviv Archives for my village/religon/year, have been filmed,
but from then on I'm lost. I need to be sure of dad's surname [choice
of 2, spelt 3 ways] before I write to Moscow for details of
his 'conscription/escape/amnesty'

Any help appreciated. Reply to
'ladbrooke@...'

Thank you
Linder