Re: Jerry Bergonzi: Vol. 3 Jazz Lines
#Scales
He's just choosing to use the first choice scale-wise for the dominant functioning chord in a turnaround to minor tonic (IIm7?5-V7?9-Im7-Im6) , the 5th mode of the Harmonic Minor scale, variously named Mixolydian ?9?13, Phrygian Dominant. Phrygian ?3 etc., As I'm sure you know, the Harmonic Minor scale was "created" for harmony purposes from the Natural Minor scale by raising the ?7 to ?7, to give us two important harmonic pointer chords V7?9? (often for Cycle-5 progressions) and VIIdim7 (often for Cycle-2 progressions). Scale wise the first choice scales for turnaround to minor tonic are:
| Mode 2 Nat. Min for IIm7?5 | Mode 5 Har. Min. for V7?9 | Mode 1 Nat. Min for Im7 | Mode 1 Mel. Min for Im6 |
If you listen to the masters, for example Bird, you'll hear the use of Harmonic Minor.
But of course depending on what you want to do you can increase the tension on the V7 chord by altering other tones.
Hope that helps!
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Jerry Bergonzi: Vol. 3 Jazz Lines
#Scales
Anyone work through this book? It's mainly Bergonzi's take on the Bebop scale, with tunes derivative of Bebop tunes such as Blues For Alice, Joy Spring, etc. For minor key tunes, he uses IV7b9b13. Any idea as to why he prefers this to an altered dominant? No lowered 5th or raised 11th? Apparently he's preferring The Harmonic Minor scale?
For example, he's got Cm69 Bebop scale, leading to F7b9b13. Why?
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I think I fixed the issue. Thanks for your help!
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On November 29, 2019 at 2:56 PM "Alisdair MacRae Birch via Groups.Io" <akmbirch@...> wrote:
Chuck
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The first thing I see is that with groups.io your profile information is controlled solely by you (currently, I believe moderators can't edit your profile) and each group you are a member of on group.io, can have a diffent profile, in other words you can customize your profile for each group you are subscribed to. You have a main account profile and individual profiles for each group you are subscribed to. Changes made to your main account profile will automatically apply to each group profile, with the exception of those specific fields in each group profile that you've previously customized.
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Check to see that you have set your profile privacy to "Other members of your group"
If it's still not working, perhaps there's some glitch? ? If so, what does the error message exactly say and when does it occur? I'll have to investigate further.
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Chuck
开云体育 is new to me, but lets see if we can figure this out.
The first thing I see is that with groups.io your profile information is controlled solely by you (currently, I believe moderators can't edit your profile) and each group you are a member of on group.io, can have a diffent profile, in other words you can customize your profile for each group you are subscribed to. You have a main account profile and individual profiles for each group you are subscribed to. Changes made to your main account profile will automatically apply to each group profile, with the exception of those specific fields in each group profile that you've previously customized.
I am assuming you are editiing your profile by
either:
1/ Going to the top right drop-down box, Clicking on Account>Identity>then either your Main Profile or your Jazz-Guitar Group Profile
or:
2/ Clicking on Subscription>Group Profile>Edit Group Profile (That's your Jazz-Guitar Group Profile)
Next:
Did you upload the picture by dragging the image to profile photo or by browsing to a file on your computer?
Check to see that you have set your profile privacy to "Other members of your group"
If it's still not working, perhaps there's some glitch? ? If so, what does the error message exactly say and when does it occur? I'll have to investigate further.
-A
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Re: We've Moved YJGG To groups.io/g/Jazz-Guitar
#jgadmin
Thnk you, Alisdair, for helping us getting here.
And for all that jazz. ;-)
Cheers,
Javier.
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What do previous members of yahoo group need to do to send mail in to the group , i.e. new posts ?
do we need new credentials , password ?
frank forte
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Re: We've Moved YJGG To groups.io/g/Jazz-Guitar
#jgadmin
We second that. Thanks Alisdair, for all your good work over so many years.
RGK
On Thursday, 28 November 2019, 19:42:33 GMT+8, Denis Barsalo <denisbarsalo@...> wrote:
Alisdair, ? Your dedication to this group is beyond devoted. Thanks for running the ship over all these years and thanks for the smooth transition over to 开云体育 ? Cheers, ? Denis ? ?
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We've transferred YJGG over to 开云体育 and now in the process of organizing things. There is a lot of organizing and tidying up that needs to be done, but at least we've managed to salvage as much as possible before Dec 14. Thank-you to all those who helped in the move.
Where possible we've sent out email invites, if you haven't received one, apologies, many members email addresses did not transfer, and there have been a lot of technical challenges. 开云体育 is feature rich, so there are many choices of subscription from individual messages, to digest, to no email. etc., The site also opens up a lot of other possibilities, so take some time, visit, explore. Suggestions comments as always are welcome.
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Re: We've Moved YJGG To groups.io/g/Jazz-Guitar
#jgadmin
Alisdair, ? Your dedication to this group is beyond devoted. Thanks for running the ship over all these years and thanks for the smooth transition over to 开云体育 ? Cheers, ? Denis ? ?
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From: jazz_guitar@... [mailto:jazz_guitar@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 2:20 AM
To: jazz_guitar@...
Subject: [jazz_guitar] We've moved YJGG to groups.io/g/Jazz-Guitar?
We've transferred YJGG over to 开云体育 and now in the process of organizing things. There is a lot of organizing and tidying up that needs to be done, but at least we've managed to salvage as much as possible before Dec 14. Thank-you to all those who helped in the move.
Where possible we've sent out email invites, if you haven't received one, apologies, many members email addresses did not transfer, and there have been a lot of technical challenges. 开云体育 is feature rich, so there are many choices of subscription from individual messages, to digest, to no email. etc., The site also opens up a lot of other possibilities, so take some time, visit, explore. Suggestions comments as always are welcome.
The new location is here: Here's the Group Email Addresses Post: [email protected]
Subscribe: [email protected]
Unsubscribe: [email protected]
Help: [email protected] The site is now open for posting. Please post on groups.io and not on yahoo. Enjoy!
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Re: End of an Era: Yahoo will delete all Yahoo Groups content on December 14th
Could it be possible to move the group to Google Groups instead (which I imagine would be free) and also archive the old content there?? (The other non-moderated jazz guitar group with Lord Valve et al is already on Google Groups, of course),
William ---In jazz_guitar@..., <akmbirch@...> wrote : These days I have very little time to participate in the group, but I'd
hate to see the archive of messages from the past just wiped out and not
available for anyone who was interested to browse through....If there is enthusiasm to move
the group, we could move the group to a site like group.io, the
downside is that it costs. Group.io is $110/year. Yahoo groups was free
to set-up and join as it was a way for Yahoo to drive people to their
sites and and they also provided 2GB of file storage.
Perhaps
we could set-up a crowd sourcing page and if everyone here contributed a
tiny amount we could cover the cost of moving it over and setting it
up?
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Re: End of an Era: Yahoo will delete all Yahoo Groups content on December 14th
groups.io also has a free plan? with 1 GB of storage.?
The following are counted towards the storage limits for your group: - Files
- Photos
- Images in databases
- Images in wiki pages
- Message attachments
Messages themselves are not counted towards the storage limits, only any attachments. How much space does the yahoo group files section use currently?
Joel
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Re: End of an Era: Yahoo will delete all Yahoo Groups content on December 14th
I'm in to keep the group going. ?? Eric Eskola, Minneapolis
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From: akmbirch@... [jazz_guitar]
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Subject: Re: [jazz_guitar] End of an Era: Yahoo will delete all Yahoo Groups content on December 14th
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These days I have very little time to participate in the group, but I'd
hate to see the archive of messages from the past just wiped out and not
available for anyone who was interested to browse through....If there is enthusiasm to move
the group, we could move the group to a site like group.io, the
downside is that it costs. Group.io is $110/year. Yahoo groups was free
to set-up and join as it was a way for Yahoo to drive people to their
sites and and they also provided 2GB of file storage.
Perhaps
we could set-up a crowd sourcing page and if everyone here contributed a
tiny amount we could cover the cost of moving it over and setting it
up?
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Re: End of an Era: Yahoo will delete all Yahoo Groups content on December 14th
Thank you for the info, Alisdair, and for your tireless contributions to this business and art of ours.
You are nothing short of amazing!
Bobby
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Re: End of an Era: Yahoo will delete all Yahoo Groups content on December 14th
Wow.
Thank you for the info, but more, much more than that, thank you for your enduring efforts on behalf of the group.
I learned so much from everyone, such a great group.
All the best with everything!
John
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Re: End of an Era: Yahoo will delete all Yahoo Groups content on December 14th
Hi Alasdair, How to detroy a unique resource and walk away with millions of dollars! Ask Marissa Mayer.
Let's hope that the Jazz Guitar information can be safely downloaded.
In the meantime, thanks for your excellent curating of the Group in its heyday. I hope that you are still an active teacher and player. All the best, Charles
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-------- Original message -------- From: "akmbirch@... [jazz_guitar]" Date:17/10/2019 19:06 (GMT+00:00) To: jazz_guitar@... Subject: [jazz_guitar] End of an Era: Yahoo will delete all Yahoo Groups content on December 14th
Folks
It's the end of an era.... Yahoo's former CEO Marissa Mayer effectively destroyed Yahoo groups back in 2013,
'WTF! MORONS!' Yahoo! Groups! redesign! traumatises! users! ? The Register
continued her destruction of Yahoo successfully driving it into the ground to the point where she could leave in 2017 the shell of the company to be acquired by Altaba/Verizon, who unable to save the wreck on October 2, 2019 ceased trading on the Nasdaq at the close of the day.
So it comes of no surprise that Yahoo who previously bought and destroyed GeoCities,
Yahoo! Pulls Plug on GeoCities, Erases Internet History - TIME
have made the decision to no longer allow users to upload content to the Yahoo Groups site. Beginning October 21, you won't be able to upload any more content to the site, and as of December 14 all previously posted content on the site will be permanently removed. You'll have until that date to save anything you've uploaded.
More information about that decision:
As archivist
Jason Scott told Time: “These guys found the way to destroy the most massive amount of history
in the shortest amount of time with absolutely no recourse”.
I am hoping that we will be able to archive the group before then, even if only for historical purposes.
-A
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Alisdair
MacRae Birch
Guitarist/Bassist/Educator/Arranger
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Re: End of an Era: Yahoo will delete all Yahoo Groups content on December 14th
These days I have very little time to participate in the group, but I'd
hate to see the archive of messages from the past just wiped out and not
available for anyone who was interested to browse through....If there is enthusiasm to move
the group, we could move the group to a site like group.io, the
downside is that it costs. Group.io is $110/year. Yahoo groups was free
to set-up and join as it was a way for Yahoo to drive people to their
sites and and they also provided 2GB of file storage.
Perhaps
we could set-up a crowd sourcing page and if everyone here contributed a
tiny amount we could cover the cost of moving it over and setting it
up?
|
Re: End of an Era: Yahoo will delete all Yahoo Groups content on December 14th
or move it to groups.io... apparently they have a tool that does most of
it automatically.
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End of an Era: Yahoo will delete all Yahoo Groups content on December 14th
Folks
It's the end of an era.... Yahoo's former CEO Marissa Mayer effectively destroyed Yahoo groups back in 2013,
'WTF! MORONS!' Yahoo! Groups! redesign! traumatises! users! ? The Register
continued her destruction of Yahoo successfully driving it into the ground to the point where she could leave in 2017 the shell of the company to be acquired by Altaba/Verizon, who unable to save the wreck on October 2, 2019 ceased trading on the Nasdaq at the close of the day.
So it comes of no surprise that Yahoo who previously bought and destroyed GeoCities,
Yahoo! Pulls Plug on GeoCities, Erases Internet History - TIME
have made the decision to no longer allow users to upload content to the Yahoo Groups site. Beginning October 21, you won't be able to upload any more content to the site, and as of December 14 all previously posted content on the site will be permanently removed. You'll have until that date to save anything you've uploaded.
More information about that decision:
As archivist
Jason Scott told Time: “These guys found the way to destroy the most massive amount of history
in the shortest amount of time with absolutely no recourse”.
I am hoping that we will be able to archive the group before then, even if only for historical purposes.
-A
?
--
Alisdair
MacRae Birch
Guitarist/Bassist/Educator/Arranger
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Peter, yours is the first note I’ve seen in years! I’ve found several great groups on Facebook, and really enjoy most of them! Greg
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I hung out here for years but I think this group has been Zucked for quite awhile now. Got any favorite groups - and why?
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