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I've made 8 phone calls (following up on one email to Inyo NF) about this and been bounced from FS to eastern sierra regional office to recreation.gov (3 different places) back to Inyo FS HQ and then to Lone Pine FS. I STILL do not have an answer. Maybe the wise people on this listserv can help. I want a permit to enter Mono Pass trail at Mosquito Flat and exit Whitney. I'm playing around on Recreation.gov now to get ready for the actual dates I want so I can do it within a nanosecond of 7 AM Pacific time. I've found that most days the entire quota (12) for that trailhead is for just backpacking and NOT for exiting at Whitney. Not sure how many should be set aside for Whitney exit but it looks like none most days. Oddly enough, there are some NRs (not released) and some zeroes in that row going back in time. Clearly operator error. I've tried to verify that a) one is allowed to enter at Mono Pass and exit at Whitney (answer today: yes that is allowed if you have the permit) b) there should be permits on recreation.gov to do this. There appears to be a major disconnect between FS and recreation.gov. None of the responsible government agencies appears to be able to get recreation.gov, a contractor, to correct the website. No one who answers the phone at recreation.gov has any idea what I'm talking about or can help and they pass me on to the next clueless person (or in one case a dead line). The FS guys know very well that the website is failing but they can't do anything about it. So I asked a FS ranger in Lone Pine today what to do. Based on his advise, here's my plan of action. First I'm going to call early tomorrow morning to talk to another ranger in Lone Pine who today's ranger told me might know more. Second, I will continue trying to get a Whitney exit permit on recreation.gov. Third, when I'm hitting the end of my starting window, if I can't get a Mono/Whitney pass, I'm going to get the regular Mono backpacking pass . Fourth, if I fail to get a Mono/Whitney permit 6 months out, I'll try for a last minute (nee "walk up") permit two weeks before . Fifth, if I still can't get a Mono/Whitney pass, I'll bring my Mono Pass backpacking permit to the FS office in Mammoth Lakes and grovel, tell them my sad story and hope they give me a Whitney exit permit; Finally, if that fails, I guess I'll have to add three days onto my journey, and, after summiting Whitney, hike south to Horseshoe Meadows, where, I was told, I can exit to Lone Pine (true?) . OR I could risk getting a $1000 fine by exiting Whitney without a permit but doing so at night because the rangers leave at 6 PM. Any other solutions out there? Does anyone have any insight as to how to get recreation.gov to correct its website? I do NOT want to exit on the Western side because it's too hard to get back to civilization. Thanks Judy McGuire

We had to abort last year at VVR because I got COVID. But we hope to finish this year starting at Mosquito Flat/Mono Pass Trail. Just to figure out the permit system, I went to recreation.gov and looked up Mono Pass permits (exiting Whitney) and 6 months from today (i.e. 7/15/25) says it has 0 (zero) permits (not NR, which they say means not yet released). I assume that means that all permits have been taken. Correct? When I go back 5 days a few times, I see one available at an earlier date. When I move forward in 5 day increments it says 0 everywhere. Does zero mean different things at different times? I want to try for an entry some time between Aug. 30 and Sept. 2. February has only 28 days. How do they count 6 months before the end of August when February doesn't have a 29, 30 or 31?. THanks Judy McGuire

Hi All, I was just looking to book a permit from Bear Ridge trailhead in John Muir for late June / early July, and all dates are blank. Does anyone know if there is a change to the process this year please? Regards, Geraldine.

I've got a used MiniMo that I don't need for sale, $50. It is in great shape and works perfectly. It has done the JMT so is experienced;) Let me know if you are interested. Curt

I make it a practice of donating money to the organizations who maintain the trails I hike each year. Aside from PCTA are there non-profits that maintain the JMT? Does the Yosemite Conservancy do any maintenance within the national park? Judy McGuire

All I can find for an opening date of the Tuolumne Meadows Backpackers Campground is that it will be closed until 2025. Since there is no "through 2025", I assume that it may open next year. Am I correct? Does anyone have good intel on the opening? Thanks, Rick

The Bearikade Blazer and Zpacks Duplex both sold quickly and went to good homes! This one is still available and has worked very well for a solo week or weekend for 2: Bearikade Scout (with reflective stripe) capacity: 500 cu in, width: 9 in x height: 8 in $225 (free shipping) John

Sadly, I haven't been on the trail in a few years, and my backpacking days are officially over. Here are a few lightly-used items, all in excellent condition: Bearikade Blazer (with reflective stripe) capacity: 750 cu in, width: 9 in x height: 12 in $275 (free shipping) Bearikade Scout (with reflective stripe) capacity: 500 cu in, width: 9 in x height: 8 in $225 (free shipping) Zpacks Duplex Tent (Olive Drab) with Duplex groundsheet & titanium V stakes $300 (free shipping)

This isn't strictly JMT-related, but hopefully acceptable anyway. I was reading an article about a Death Valley employee who went for a hike, had some route confusion, ran out of water and had to SOS on his Garmin. Excerpt below. My question is, what is the routing of an SOS to explain why it was 1:40 between pushing the button and the cognizant NPS et al receiving the message? I read another article about the hiking group that found the remains of Julian Sands on Mt. Baldy. They hit the SOS button and had a response in 8 mins. (which I thought was pretty amazing). The DV excerpt: "By 4:30 p.m., his water bottle was empty, and “heat and dehydration caught up with him,” officials said in the news release. That’s when he fainted and fell. “After an unknown period of time, he woke up bruised and realized it was time to call for a rescue,” the news release read, noting he used the SOS function on his Garmin tracking device at around 6 p.m. to get help. NPS rangers and the Inyo County Sheriff’s Office received the call at 7:40 p.m."

Thanks for all the info about mosquito and wasp activity. Now I have two more questions. We’re going from Virginia Lakes south through Tuolumne to Happy Isles in early September and have two questions. 1. Does anyone have information on the current availability of water in Cold Canyon (north of Glen Aulin). 2. Can anyone share information or routes going cross country from Lower to Upper McCabe Lakes? Any other information is welcome and appreciated. Hope everyone is having great trips and is prepared for cooler weather. We had 50 mph wind gusts up near Carson Pass last Saturday! Thanks, Martha Martha Gilmore, PhD, CGP (She/Her) Licensed Psychologist PSY10451 sacramentocenterforpsychotherapy.com Certified Group Psychotherapist American Group Psychotherapy Association - Life Fellow 1621 Oak Ave, Ste. B Davis, CA 95616 530-757-6861 Learn more about AGPA at http://www.agpa.org/ National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 988 Please consider the environment before printing this email. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or copying of this e-mail or any of its attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sending individual by e-mail and permanently delete the original e-mail and attachment(s) from your computer system. Thank you for your cooperation. Please note: I try to check my emails regularly; however, I may not be able to respond to your message immediately. If you have an emergency, please call or text the crisis hotline at 988.

Hello, Hoping to leave a food drop in a Bear Box near JMT Cathedral Pass trailhead in September. Just wanted to verify that bearboxes still available along Tioga Road in TM. Who has been through there recently? Chuck Fannin

Anyone have information on current mosquito and wasp activity lately? We’re going Virginia Lakes through Tuolumne to Happy Isles. We’re not going until early September and any other information is welcome. Thanks, Martha Martha Gilmore, PhD, CGP, FAGPA . Please excuse brevity and typographical errors.

Not sure how much construction is getting in the way of travel around Tuolumne Meadows. What's the shortest way to get to the PO/Store from JMT arriving from the Valley? Thanks Judy McGuire

I start a SOBO solo hike on the 24th. Because of my plans I will be leaving my truck at Tuolumne Meadows and heading out immediately. I am asking for your strategy or take on returning to TM. I know about both YARTS and EST, but any help will ease my anxiety over not connecting effectively. -Thanks, Rick

On Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 06:42:03 AM PDT, judithsmcguire <judithsmcguire@...> wrote: BTW those Pringles tortilla chips are no longer made My recipe is adapted from the Backpack Gourmet 5 cloves garlic 2 scallions 15 oz black beans, rinsed and drained 1 ripe avocado, peeled and pitted 3 ripe tomatoes, chopped juice of 1 fresh lime (2 Tablespoons) 1/2 t chili powder 1/4 t salt. Actually I replace tomatoes with my favorite salsa (Safeway Southwest Style Hot). When I use salsa I skip the chili I sometimes add a couple of ears' worth of corn Add cumin (lots) Add Olive oil Add cilantro Wooze it up in the food processor until it's paste like Dry on parchment paper Break up dried hunks (sometimes in food processor) Recipes says to take 2 oz (dry) servings. I find this about right. To make home made tortilla chips cut thick tortillas (Trader Joe's are too thin) into 6 pie pieces, spray of both sides with olive oil, salt. Toast at 350 until crisp. Another trick for lunches is cutting bagels cross wise (so you produce little rounds) spray with olive oil, salt, toast at 350 until they are crispy. Very good with dried hummus. Judy McGuire