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Hi all -
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I am attempting a permit entering at Red’s SOBO, exiting/summiting Mount Whitney this August.?

I am prepping for the permit process, which by the way is more daunting than the hike itself, and I’m thoroughly confused by the system.
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From what I can tell, they release permits six months in advance, but for John Muir Trail exiting Whitney they are completely blanked out with zeros all year long including on the date that new permits are being released. (I’ve checked a few times)
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Does anyone have experience with this particular permit? Do I need to start by entering Whitney lottery instead??

Thanks in advance…
jb
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I looked at the permit page for early June. There are some trailheads with quotas listed, but it? looks like they are not releasing any from trailheads near Red's Meadow. I have no official information but I think this is because of the on-going Red's Meadow Road road construction.?

Last year the road was closed from May to June 7 and on weekdays after that. Inyo did not release permits for trailheads accessed by the road when the road was closed. I don't think they finished the road so that may be why you don't see those permits this year.? They took a long time to publish this last year.

If your going in August the permits won't be ready until February. Check again in a couple of weeks or in January to see what the status of the Red's Meadows trailheads is. The JMT permits may not be available during the week so you may want to look into starting at Red Cones or Duck Pass.

You want to be online ready to reserve your permit and refresh the page at 0700 Pacific Time because some trailheads will fill up in seconds.

Fall notice on road construction -

Inyo 2024 road closure order -

Frank

On 12/5/2024 9:22 PM, Joseph Boyle via groups.io wrote:


Hi all -
?
I am attempting a permit entering at Red’s SOBO, exiting/summiting Mount Whitney this August.?

I am prepping for the permit process, which by the way is more daunting than the hike itself, and I’m thoroughly confused by the system.
?
From what I can tell, they release permits six months in advance, but for John Muir Trail exiting Whitney they are completely blanked out with zeros all year long including on the date that new permits are being released. (I’ve checked a few times)
?
Does anyone have experience with this particular permit? Do I need to start by entering Whitney lottery instead??

Thanks in advance…
jb
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?
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Hi JB,

you look for a permit "John Muir Trail south of Devil's Postpile"?

They are listed on the Inyo Forest site with availability 0. All permits may be sell out in the first minute after release at 7am PT so that none are left later.



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Am 06.12.24, 07:51 schrieb "Frank via groups.io" <frankdpct@...>:

I looked at the permit page for early June. There are some trailheads with quotas listed, but it? looks like they are not releasing any from trailheads near Red's Meadow. I have no official information but I think this is because of the on-going Red's Meadow Road road construction.?

Last year the road was closed from May to June 7 and on weekdays after that. Inyo did not release permits for trailheads accessed by the road when the road was closed. I don't think they finished the road so that may be why you don't see those permits this year.? They took a long time to publish this last year.

If your going in August the permits won't be ready until February. Check again in a couple of weeks or in January to see what the status of the Red's Meadows trailheads is. The JMT permits may not be available during the week so you may want to look into starting at Red Cones or Duck Pass.

You want to be online ready to reserve your permit and refresh the page at 0700 Pacific Time because some trailheads will fill up in seconds.

Fall notice on road construction -

Inyo 2024 road closure order -

Frank

On 12/5/2024 9:22 PM, Joseph Boyle via wrote:

Hi all -
?
I am attempting a permit entering at Red’s SOBO, exiting/summiting Mount Whitney this August.?

I am prepping for the permit process, which by the way is more daunting than the hike itself, and I’m thoroughly confused by the system.
?
From what I can tell, they release permits six months in advance, but for John Muir Trail exiting Whitney they are completely blanked out with zeros all year long including on the date that new permits are being released. (I’ve checked a few times)
?
Does anyone have experience with this particular permit? Do I need to start by entering Whitney lottery instead??

Thanks in advance…
jb
?
?
?
?

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I noticed an alert on the recreation.gov Inyo permit reservation page that confirms the Red's Meadow Road and associated trailhead closures. Those permits will be closed until July 3.

Frank

On 12/5/2024 10:51 PM, Frank via groups.io wrote:

I looked at the permit page for early June. There are some trailheads with quotas listed, but it? looks like they are not releasing any from trailheads near Red's Meadow. I have no official information but I think this is because of the on-going Red's Meadow Road road construction.?

Last year the road was closed from May to June 7 and on weekdays after that. Inyo did not release permits for trailheads accessed by the road when the road was closed. I don't think they finished the road so that may be why you don't see those permits this year.? They took a long time to publish this last year.

If your going in August the permits won't be ready until February. Check again in a couple of weeks or in January to see what the status of the Red's Meadows trailheads is. The JMT permits may not be available during the week so you may want to look into starting at Red Cones or Duck Pass.

You want to be online ready to reserve your permit and refresh the page at 0700 Pacific Time because some trailheads will fill up in seconds.

Fall notice on road construction -

Inyo 2024 road closure order -

Frank

On 12/5/2024 9:22 PM, Joseph Boyle via groups.io wrote:

Hi all -
?
I am attempting a permit entering at Red’s SOBO, exiting/summiting Mount Whitney this August.?

I am prepping for the permit process, which by the way is more daunting than the hike itself, and I’m thoroughly confused by the system.
?
From what I can tell, they release permits six months in advance, but for John Muir Trail exiting Whitney they are completely blanked out with zeros all year long including on the date that new permits are being released. (I’ve checked a few times)
?
Does anyone have experience with this particular permit? Do I need to start by entering Whitney lottery instead??

Thanks in advance…
jb
?
?
?
?

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Frank

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Frank


 

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Sorry I thought I replied earlier.
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Yes, after looking deeper into it - and confirming that I could select other entry points and still legally complete JMT through Whitney - I also believe that the blocked out reservations on certain trailheads could be due to them being accessible via the road to Red's Meadow which is still closed.
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Side note: RED CONES is actually a way easier entry point to manage and only about a mile down trail from Red's anyway. Unlike Red's I can call an uber and have them drop my off at the trailhead after I do my acclimation days in Mammoth. It really was the best advice so thank you Frank and thanks also to the group for all the valuable insight over the years. ?Now gotta make sure I keep up my training so that I am ready for August and completing my JMT!!!
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Thanks,
jb


 

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Mammoth has a free shuttle that will take you to the Horseshoe lake trailhead. ?The hike over mammoth pass is about 3.5 miles and very nice. ?I believe the trail is on an old Native American trade route.


On Dec 9, 2024, at 8:30?AM, Joseph Boyle <jrbloop@...> wrote:

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Sorry I thought I replied earlier.
?
Yes, after looking deeper into it - and confirming that I could select other entry points and still legally complete JMT through Whitney - I also believe that the blocked out reservations on certain trailheads could be due to them being accessible via the road to Red's Meadow which is still closed.
?
Side note: RED CONES is actually a way easier entry point to manage and only about a mile down trail from Red's anyway. Unlike Red's I can call an uber and have them drop my off at the trailhead after I do my acclimation days in Mammoth. It really was the best advice so thank you Frank and thanks also to the group for all the valuable insight over the years. ?Now gotta make sure I keep up my training so that I am ready for August and completing my JMT!!!
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Thanks,
jb


 

This shuttle at the Lakes Basin terminus:
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Gesendet: Montag, 9. Dezember 2024 um 18:07
Von: "Tom Kennefick via groups.io" <tomkennefick@...>
Betreff: Re: [JMT-groups.io] Into Permit Confusion
Mammoth has a free shuttle that will take you to the Horseshoe lake trailhead. ?The hike over mammoth pass is about 3.5 miles and very nice. ?I believe the trail is on an old Native American trade route.

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On Dec 9, 2024, at 8:30?AM, Joseph Boyle <jrbloop@...> wrote:

?
Sorry I thought I replied earlier.
?
Yes, after looking deeper into it - and confirming that I could select other entry points and still legally complete JMT through Whitney - I also believe that the blocked out reservations on certain trailheads could be due to them being accessible via the road to Red's Meadow which is still closed.
?
Side note: RED CONES is actually a way easier entry point to manage and only about a mile down trail from Red's anyway. Unlike Red's I can call an uber and have them drop my off at the trailhead after I do my acclimation days in Mammoth. It really was the best advice so thank you Frank and thanks also to the group for all the valuable insight over the years. ?Now gotta make sure I keep up my training so that I am ready for August and completing my JMT!!!
?
Thanks,
jb

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Note that Uber doesn't operate on the east side for the most part but there are taxis in Mammoth.?


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