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Re: J-Say command to invoke the JAWS Task List

 

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You probably know this, but you can say press insert F10
This message was created using dictation. Please ignore any dictation or transcription mistakes.

On Jul 26, 2024, at 12:48?PM, Dean Martineau via groups.io <topdot@...> wrote:

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I have occasionally used, and I’m pretty sure I’ve taught, the System Tray command. That isn’t at all what I was hoping to find. I was hoping there would be a command to bring up the JAWS Task List, insert+F10.

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Encouraging and thought-provoking reading

https://bahaiteachings.org

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Joshua Saunders via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2024 2:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [J-Say] J-Say command to invoke the JAWS Task List

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This is Josh. I have used this command. Admittedly it was probably about six months ago. What it did was it brought up the system tray. Therefore it makes sense.

This message was created using dictation. Please ignore any dictation or transcription mistakes.



On Jul 26, 2024, at 10:59?AM, Brian Hartgen via groups.io <brian@...> wrote:

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Hi Dean

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I do not know anyone who has ever used this command since J-Say was created in 2003, so you will have to try it and I will do so myself next week. But I believe the command is, Select System Tray.

All the commands which bring up these lists start with, select, or more likely, select a, such as, select a link.

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Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

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Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2024 6:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [J-Say] J-Say command to invoke the JAWS Task List

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I was looking through the command summaries and didn’t see a command to invoke the insert+F10 list of running programs. Is there a command for this feature?

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Encouraging and thought-provoking reading

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Re: J-Say command to invoke the JAWS Task List

 

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I have occasionally used, and I’m pretty sure I’ve taught, the System Tray command. That isn’t at all what I was hoping to find. I was hoping there would be a command to bring up the JAWS Task List, insert+F10.

?

?

Encouraging and thought-provoking reading

https://bahaiteachings.org

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Joshua Saunders via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2024 2:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [J-Say] J-Say command to invoke the JAWS Task List

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This is Josh. I have used this command. Admittedly it was probably about six months ago. What it did was it brought up the system tray. Therefore it makes sense.

This message was created using dictation. Please ignore any dictation or transcription mistakes.



On Jul 26, 2024, at 10:59?AM, Brian Hartgen via groups.io <brian@...> wrote:

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Hi Dean

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I do not know anyone who has ever used this command since J-Say was created in 2003, so you will have to try it and I will do so myself next week. But I believe the command is, Select System Tray.

All the commands which bring up these lists start with, select, or more likely, select a, such as, select a link.

?

Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

?

Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2024 6:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [J-Say] J-Say command to invoke the JAWS Task List

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I was looking through the command summaries and didn’t see a command to invoke the insert+F10 list of running programs. Is there a command for this feature?

?

?

Encouraging and thought-provoking reading

?


Re: J-Say command to invoke the JAWS Task List

 

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This is Josh. I have used this command. Admittedly it was probably about six months ago. What it did was it brought up the system tray. Therefore it makes sense.
This message was created using dictation. Please ignore any dictation or transcription mistakes.

On Jul 26, 2024, at 10:59?AM, Brian Hartgen via groups.io <brian@...> wrote:

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Hi Dean

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I do not know anyone who has ever used this command since J-Say was created in 2003, so you will have to try it and I will do so myself next week. But I believe the command is, Select System Tray.

All the commands which bring up these lists start with, select, or more likely, select a, such as, select a link.

?

Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

?

Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2024 6:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [J-Say] J-Say command to invoke the JAWS Task List

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I was looking through the command summaries and didn’t see a command to invoke the insert+F10 list of running programs. Is there a command for this feature?

?

?

Encouraging and thought-provoking reading

?


Re: J-Say command to invoke the JAWS Task List

 

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Hi Dean

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I do not know anyone who has ever used this command since J-Say was created in 2003, so you will have to try it and I will do so myself next week. But I believe the command is, Select System Tray.

All the commands which bring up these lists start with, select, or more likely, select a, such as, select a link.

?

Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

?

Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2024 6:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [J-Say] J-Say command to invoke the JAWS Task List

?

I was looking through the command summaries and didn’t see a command to invoke the insert+F10 list of running programs. Is there a command for this feature?

?

?

Encouraging and thought-provoking reading

?


J-Say command to invoke the JAWS Task List

 

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I was looking through the command summaries and didn’t see a command to invoke the insert+F10 list of running programs. Is there a command for this feature?

?

?

Encouraging and thought-provoking reading

https://bahaiteachings.org

?


J-Say Update

 

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This is a free update for existing users of J-Say 22.

See below for updating instructions.

If you cannot update the product yourself, remote assistance is available.

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Changes:

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The primary purpose of the update is to facilitate access to Microsoft Teams version 2. Dragon itself is not equipped to handle Teams version 2, however a full set of J-Say voice and keyboard commands not only allow you to be more efficient with using Teams, but in addition they reduce unnecessary speech output in the application in the same way as offered by our JAWS scripts for Teams.

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Additional Changes:

1. If people have received J-Say training in the past, hopefully they will know of the existence of the Dictation Box. This is used to dictate into applications not officially supported by Dragon.

J-Say now has its own equivalent of the Dictation Box which provides more condensed speech output for its prompt and works more efficiently in Microsoft Teams.

Say, Dictation Box, to deploy this.

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2. The command, Start Backup, should be correctly backing up a Dragon 16 Voice Profile.

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3. When Google search results are deployed, activating one of the items should now deploy the correct page.

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4. The commands, Keyboard Help On and Keyboard Help Off, have been added by customer request.

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5. It is now easily possible to scan through items within the JAWS Speech History without focus moving away from the existing application. Individual Speech History segments can be copied or viewed. A full set of voice and keyboard commands exist for managing Speech History items. Refer to Chapter 46 of the Learning Module.

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Updating.

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in order to download the J-Say software update. Please under no circumstances use this link unless J-Say is already installed.

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To repeat, if you think it would be difficult for you to update the software, please send a message to

brian@...

so as to arrange an appointment to have the update installed for you.

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Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

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Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

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Re: Navigating chrome settings and using the Gmail interface

 

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My apologies Dean, I neglected to answer your other question.

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In respect of Gmail navigation, I think the best thing you can do for now is to ask the user to use the press keyboard commands to move to the different functions. This is not going to be ideal but it may get you at least to the places where he or she needs to be, such as, press control key 1, or whatever the keyboard shortcut is.

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Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

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Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 2:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [J-Say] Navigating chrome settings and using the Gmail interface

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This user won’t be using Outlook. As for Chrome settings, I’m having trouble with the logic of the settings screens, available from the alt+f menu. I used to do this smoothly, but either it has changed over the years or I have, more likely the latter. From the main menu, I try to choose a category, perhaps OnStartUp. I can’t find a consistent pattern of whether to use Space or Enter to choose menu items. When I choose one, sometimes forms mode comes on, sometimes it comes on and turns off immediately. If I do select a category on which to act, I can’t figure out reliably how to switch to another category. I’m obviously missing something here.

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Encouraging and thought-provoking reading

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Hartgen via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 8:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [J-Say] Navigating chrome settings and using the Gmail interface

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Hi Dean

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In relation to the settings, are you talking about the Chrome browser, then ALT+F, then Settings?

If you know how to make use of the web with J-Say there are absolutely no difficulties with browsing those items or activating any one of them. I’ve just checked.

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In terms of Gmail, no, there are no special J-Say commands.

I generally disregard most Dragon commands because if you use a Dragon command, you are not going to get appropriate speech output in most cases.

The reason there are no special commands is because noone has ever asked for them! If people really do want them there is no problem in adding them. But most people who use J-Say use Outlook.

Now, as the years move on that may well change but that is the case at the moment.

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Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

?

Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 12:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [J-Say] Navigating chrome settings and using the Gmail interface

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Does anyone know of any Dragon commands or even jaws navigation tips for navigating the chrome settings screens? In a similar vein, does anyone know any Dragon commands for working with the Gmail web interface?

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Dean

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Encouraging and thought-provoking reading

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Re: Navigating chrome settings and using the Gmail interface

 

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To be honest it couldn’t be more accessible if it tried.

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So, I arrow down to one of the options. You mentioned, On Startup.

Press Enter.

JAWS should go into forms mode, which if you are using J-Say should be set to Manual operation.

When forms mode is active, press Tab once. That is common practice with a lot of modern apps.

The page should then refresh and you can look at the new screen. I’ve just tried about three of these.

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Even better than that, if you then go back through the list of settings categories, JAWS tells you which one is active so you know.

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Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

?

Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 2:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [J-Say] Navigating chrome settings and using the Gmail interface

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This user won’t be using Outlook. As for Chrome settings, I’m having trouble with the logic of the settings screens, available from the alt+f menu. I used to do this smoothly, but either it has changed over the years or I have, more likely the latter. From the main menu, I try to choose a category, perhaps OnStartUp. I can’t find a consistent pattern of whether to use Space or Enter to choose menu items. When I choose one, sometimes forms mode comes on, sometimes it comes on and turns off immediately. If I do select a category on which to act, I can’t figure out reliably how to switch to another category. I’m obviously missing something here.

?

?

?

Encouraging and thought-provoking reading

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Hartgen via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 8:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [J-Say] Navigating chrome settings and using the Gmail interface

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Hi Dean

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In relation to the settings, are you talking about the Chrome browser, then ALT+F, then Settings?

If you know how to make use of the web with J-Say there are absolutely no difficulties with browsing those items or activating any one of them. I’ve just checked.

?

In terms of Gmail, no, there are no special J-Say commands.

I generally disregard most Dragon commands because if you use a Dragon command, you are not going to get appropriate speech output in most cases.

The reason there are no special commands is because noone has ever asked for them! If people really do want them there is no problem in adding them. But most people who use J-Say use Outlook.

Now, as the years move on that may well change but that is the case at the moment.

?

?

Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

?

Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 12:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [J-Say] Navigating chrome settings and using the Gmail interface

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Does anyone know of any Dragon commands or even jaws navigation tips for navigating the chrome settings screens? In a similar vein, does anyone know any Dragon commands for working with the Gmail web interface?

?

Dean

?

Encouraging and thought-provoking reading

?


Re: Navigating chrome settings and using the Gmail interface

 

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This user won’t be using Outlook. As for Chrome settings, I’m having trouble with the logic of the settings screens, available from the alt+f menu. I used to do this smoothly, but either it has changed over the years or I have, more likely the latter. From the main menu, I try to choose a category, perhaps OnStartUp. I can’t find a consistent pattern of whether to use Space or Enter to choose menu items. When I choose one, sometimes forms mode comes on, sometimes it comes on and turns off immediately. If I do select a category on which to act, I can’t figure out reliably how to switch to another category. I’m obviously missing something here.

?

?

?

Encouraging and thought-provoking reading

https://bahaiteachings.org

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Hartgen via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 8:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [J-Say] Navigating chrome settings and using the Gmail interface

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Hi Dean

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In relation to the settings, are you talking about the Chrome browser, then ALT+F, then Settings?

If you know how to make use of the web with J-Say there are absolutely no difficulties with browsing those items or activating any one of them. I’ve just checked.

?

In terms of Gmail, no, there are no special J-Say commands.

I generally disregard most Dragon commands because if you use a Dragon command, you are not going to get appropriate speech output in most cases.

The reason there are no special commands is because noone has ever asked for them! If people really do want them there is no problem in adding them. But most people who use J-Say use Outlook.

Now, as the years move on that may well change but that is the case at the moment.

?

?

Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

?

Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 12:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [J-Say] Navigating chrome settings and using the Gmail interface

?

Does anyone know of any Dragon commands or even jaws navigation tips for navigating the chrome settings screens? In a similar vein, does anyone know any Dragon commands for working with the Gmail web interface?

?

Dean

?

Encouraging and thought-provoking reading

?


Re: Navigating chrome settings and using the Gmail interface

 

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Hi Dean

?

In relation to the settings, are you talking about the Chrome browser, then ALT+F, then Settings?

If you know how to make use of the web with J-Say there are absolutely no difficulties with browsing those items or activating any one of them. I’ve just checked.

?

In terms of Gmail, no, there are no special J-Say commands.

I generally disregard most Dragon commands because if you use a Dragon command, you are not going to get appropriate speech output in most cases.

The reason there are no special commands is because noone has ever asked for them! If people really do want them there is no problem in adding them. But most people who use J-Say use Outlook.

Now, as the years move on that may well change but that is the case at the moment.

?

?

Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

?

Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 12:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [J-Say] Navigating chrome settings and using the Gmail interface

?

Does anyone know of any Dragon commands or even jaws navigation tips for navigating the chrome settings screens? In a similar vein, does anyone know any Dragon commands for working with the Gmail web interface?

?

Dean

?

Encouraging and thought-provoking reading

https://bahaiteachings.org

?


Navigating chrome settings and using the Gmail interface

 

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Does anyone know of any Dragon commands or even jaws navigation tips for navigating the chrome settings screens? In a similar vein, does anyone know any Dragon commands for working with the Gmail web interface?

?

Dean

?

Encouraging and thought-provoking reading

https://bahaiteachings.org

?


Re: Technical Support

 

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Thank you so much for your complements which are very much appreciated.

Please feel free to pass our company details to anyone who you feel may need assistance in this area.

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Again, thank you for contacting me and should you need further help, do let me know.

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Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

?

Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tomec Smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2024 8:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: 'Anne Hatton' <ahatton@...>
Subject: Re: [J-Say] Technical Support

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Hi Brian,

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Thank you so much for your ongoing support and fixing my J-Say related problems.

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I thought that your attached note was important enough to pass along to ??Anne Hatton, the head of the assistive technology team at the Lighthouse of the Palm ??Beaches. I'm sure there are other current or potential users of J-say in the five-county area they serve. Also, although it's not my decision I suggest passing the info along to Lenny who is the DBS funded technical support for the Tampa as well as Palm Beach area Lighthouses.

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As you suggested, I will recommend to anyone wishing to know more about J-say that they consult your website which, I believe, can be found in your accompanying documentation

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Brian, once again I am happy to say both my complete satisfaction with your technical support speed and completeness as well as J-say itself. As I've mentioned to you before, but delight in saying as often as I can, with J-Say I can dictate edit and format a 2000 word document in two hours or less. J-Say is clearly superior to all other alternatives regardless of platform available now. I said that in a presentation to the ATIA and would say it to anyone. J-Say will be an important element in the success of the launch of our new subscription newsletter.

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Best regards and continuing success to you and your team!

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Tomec Smith

Delray Beach, FL

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Hartgen via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2024 3:39 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [J-Say] Technical Support

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Hi to all

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A few issues have arisen lately in respect of using JAWS with the J-Say software.

If a user is experiencing a problem with JAWS, he or she is contacting Vispero Technical Support.

They do not know about how J-Say works.

The assumption on their part is that J-Say is the problem. They therefore remove all the JAWS settings. They do not attempt to fix the problem first without removing the JAWS settings.

The settings are not backed up for later reference or to reinstate them.

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This not only leaves a user without a computer which can be used, but it means potentially any special scripting which has been done above and beyond that which J-Say provides is potentially lost.

It causes immense frustration.

The whole point of users having the J-Say software is that they cannot use the keyboard, so if JAWS is returned to its factory settings then they may as well not have it at all.

?

If you are a J-Say user, and you experience problems with JAWS, please contact Hartgen Consultancy first.

If the problem cannot be resolved right away the very least that can happen is that a backup of settings will be made so that if JAWS needs to be installed again, there is something to refer back to.

The best that can happen is that all of the settings will be worked through systematically to find the cause of whatever the problem is.

?

This does not only occur with J-Say. If any additional scripts are installed, the quick fix apparently is to remove them without investigating the cause.

?

Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

?

Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

?


Re: Technical Support

 

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Hi Brian,

?

Thank you so much for your ongoing support and fixing my J-Say related problems.

?

I thought that your attached note was important enough to pass along to ??Anne Hatton, the head of the assistive technology team at the Lighthouse of the Palm ??Beaches. I'm sure there are other current or potential users of J-say in the five-county area they serve. Also, although it's not my decision I suggest passing the info along to Lenny who is the DBS funded technical support for the Tampa as well as Palm Beach area Lighthouses.

?

As you suggested, I will recommend to anyone wishing to know more about J-say that they consult your website which, I believe, can be found in your accompanying documentation

?

Brian, once again I am happy to say both my complete satisfaction with your technical support speed and completeness as well as J-say itself. As I've mentioned to you before, but delight in saying as often as I can, with J-Say I can dictate edit and format a 2000 word document in two hours or less. J-Say is clearly superior to all other alternatives regardless of platform available now. I said that in a presentation to the ATIA and would say it to anyone. J-Say will be an important element in the success of the launch of our new subscription newsletter.

?

Best regards and continuing success to you and your team!

?

Tomec Smith

Delray Beach, FL

?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Hartgen via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2024 3:39 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [J-Say] Technical Support

?

Hi to all

?

A few issues have arisen lately in respect of using JAWS with the J-Say software.

If a user is experiencing a problem with JAWS, he or she is contacting Vispero Technical Support.

They do not know about how J-Say works.

The assumption on their part is that J-Say is the problem. They therefore remove all the JAWS settings. They do not attempt to fix the problem first without removing the JAWS settings.

The settings are not backed up for later reference or to reinstate them.

?

This not only leaves a user without a computer which can be used, but it means potentially any special scripting which has been done above and beyond that which J-Say provides is potentially lost.

It causes immense frustration.

The whole point of users having the J-Say software is that they cannot use the keyboard, so if JAWS is returned to its factory settings then they may as well not have it at all.

?

If you are a J-Say user, and you experience problems with JAWS, please contact Hartgen Consultancy first.

If the problem cannot be resolved right away the very least that can happen is that a backup of settings will be made so that if JAWS needs to be installed again, there is something to refer back to.

The best that can happen is that all of the settings will be worked through systematically to find the cause of whatever the problem is.

?

This does not only occur with J-Say. If any additional scripts are installed, the quick fix apparently is to remove them without investigating the cause.

?

Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

?

Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

?


Technical Support

 

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Hi to all

?

A few issues have arisen lately in respect of using JAWS with the J-Say software.

If a user is experiencing a problem with JAWS, he or she is contacting Vispero Technical Support.

They do not know about how J-Say works.

The assumption on their part is that J-Say is the problem. They therefore remove all the JAWS settings. They do not attempt to fix the problem first without removing the JAWS settings.

The settings are not backed up for later reference or to reinstate them.

?

This not only leaves a user without a computer which can be used, but it means potentially any special scripting which has been done above and beyond that which J-Say provides is potentially lost.

It causes immense frustration.

The whole point of users having the J-Say software is that they cannot use the keyboard, so if JAWS is returned to its factory settings then they may as well not have it at all.

?

If you are a J-Say user, and you experience problems with JAWS, please contact Hartgen Consultancy first.

If the problem cannot be resolved right away the very least that can happen is that a backup of settings will be made so that if JAWS needs to be installed again, there is something to refer back to.

The best that can happen is that all of the settings will be worked through systematically to find the cause of whatever the problem is.

?

This does not only occur with J-Say. If any additional scripts are installed, the quick fix apparently is to remove them without investigating the cause.

?

Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

?

Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

?


J-Say Update for July

 

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A new update to J-Say voice input/output software will be available on 22 July. This will be a free update to existing users of J-Say 22.

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Changes include the following:

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The primary purpose of the update is to facilitate access to Microsoft Teams version 2. People are waiting on this. Dragon itself is not equipped to handle Teams version 2, however a full set of voice and keyboard commands not only allow you to be more efficient with using Teams, but in addition they reduce unnecessary speech output in the application in the same way as offered by our JAWS scripts for Teams.

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In addition, dictating directly into Teams is slow, unresponsive and unreliable. Users are encouraged to use the Dragon Dictation Box in order to do this, however this too does not always produce good results. J-Say now has its own equivalent to the Dictation Box which can be used within any application, not just Teams.

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Google Search results in J-Say are now working consistently again.

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The commands, Keyboard Help On and Keyboard Help Off, have been added by customer request.

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It is now easily possible to scan through items within the JAWS Speech History without focus moving away from the existing application. Individual Speech History segments can be copied or viewed. A full set of voice and keyboard commands exist for managing Speech History items.

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Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

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Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

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Dragon with Teams Version 2

 

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This post is unlikely to affect many people but we do have some customers attempting to be trained with Dragon NaturallySpeaking 16 and Microsoft Teams version 2.

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At the moment, this combination of software is completely unusable, for two reasons:

1. None of the special voice commands work at all, and that does mean, at all. This is because the commands created by Nuance are not associated with Teams version 2 but with Teams Classic. It is not possible to change the application association because the commands are hidden.

2. More importantly, the method Nuance recommends for dictating text into messages often fails to transfer the message to Teams. Moreover Dragon is so unresponsive in this area it makes working with it impossible.

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The next J-Say update hopes to overcome the issue with lack of voice commands and particularly the composing of messages. A special interface will have to be built to deal with this latter issue.

This post is just to confirm that resolving it at least for J-Say customers is very much on the agenda.

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Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

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Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

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Re: no user profile opening on student's computer

 

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Never call Nuance support unless you have to.

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I would create a new user profile.

Now, if the user has been trained to backup the voice profile via the command, Start Backup, I can tell you how to restore it.

If not, make sure Dragon is closed down. This is very important.

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Now browse to this folder:

C:\Users\machine name\AppData\Local\Nuance\NS16

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Delete the folder called Users.

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Start Dragon and create the profile.

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Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

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Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 6:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [J-Say] no user profile opening on student's computer

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I’ve run into a problem I can’t seem to solve. In the middle of a session, the student’s mic stopped responding at all. When I check the system tray, the icon says “no user profile open,” or words to that effect. There’s only one Dragon profile on the system, and it is of course set to load when Dragon does. I opened the profile, then when that didn’t work, restarted the computer. We still had no open user profile. What, short of calling Nuance support, should I do next?

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Encouraging and thought-provoking reading

https://bahaiteachings.org

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no user profile opening on student's computer

 

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I’ve run into a problem I can’t seem to solve. In the middle of a session, the student’s mic stopped responding at all. When I check the system tray, the icon says “no user profile open,” or words to that effect. There’s only one Dragon profile on the system, and it is of course set to load when Dragon does. I opened the profile, then when that didn’t work, restarted the computer. We still had no open user profile. What, short of calling Nuance support, should I do next?

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Encouraging and thought-provoking reading

https://bahaiteachings.org

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Re: How to get Dragon to Insert the Word for a Punctuation Mark?

 

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This does take some experimenting, but it can be made to work. I have done so this morning on two separate occasions.

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1. Into Dragon, say, Add New Word.

2. Into the first edit field relating to the actual word, type the word as you would like it to be spelled, such as:

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Comma

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3. Into the spoken form edit field, type the alternative using the phrase you would like to speak, such as:

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CommaFull

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Note I have concatonated the phrase here and used appropriate capitalisation. I have not used spacing.

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4. Activate the button to train the pronunciation of the word. Speak the term,

CommaFull,

quickly but clearly as one string. Do not hesitate. Many people who use Dragon do not develop a natural dictation style and tend to pause often.

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5. Activate the Save button.

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I now have two such entries in my vocabulary: CommaFull and PeriodFull.

As a consequence, I can now say,

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I would like to spell out the word CommaFull in my document.

Which is now represented as:

I would like to spell out the word Comma in my document.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2024 2:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [J-Say] How to get Dragon to Insert the Word for a Punctuation Mark?

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Dani’s question has started me doing something I should have done long ago, that being, learn more about Dragon itself. So I’ve used the example of “comma full” to place a comma, and also trained the command “singoo” for the same purpose. My first tests showed that none of this worked, until I thought of a principle: these are commands. They have to be dictated like commands, with appropriate pauses, not as part of a string of text. When I dictated thus, the word “comma” was placed in my document. Now, unfortunately, since “commafull was treated as a command, no space was inserted before the next word as there ordinarily would have been, so when I said, “I need to insert a [pause] commafull into my document, the result was “acomma” run together.

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Obviously, more has to be done here. I haven’t begun to experiment with Word’s own AutoText , or better yet, AutoCorrect, feature, to see if that can be used for better results. The goal would be to be able to dictate smoothly and have “commafull” seamlessly replaced by “comma.”

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Note that I’m using Dragon 15.3, and I don’t know if any improvements have been made to the software in 15.6 or 16.0, neither of which I can afford at present.

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Encouraging and thought-provoking reading

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2024 7:47 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [J-Say] How to get Dragon to Insert the Word for a Punctuation Mark?

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Hi, Brian.
I tried adding a custom command the way that you suggested and made sure to follow the directions as you gave them. The commands that I created do not work. I made sure that my profile was loaded and that the microphone is on. When I say "comma full", nothing happens. When I say "comma" the punctuation mark is inserted. The same thing happens with the "period full" command.

Just to experiment I tried the "Train" option under the Advanced section of the Commands editor. I got the same result.

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What should I try next?

Thanks,
Dani

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On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 1:53?AM Brian Hartgen via <brian=[email protected]> wrote:

Whichever way you tackle this using native Dragon techniques, you are going to encounter some difficulties. So I would suggest:

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1. Say, Add New Command.

2. Into the first edit field, give the command a name, such as, Comma Full or Period Full.

3. Tab several times to reach the edit field for entering text.

4. Type, comma or period.

5. Tab to the plain text check box and check it.

6. Tab to Save and press Space.

7. Into your document, say the term you entered, such as, comma full, and the word will be spelled out.

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Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

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Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2024 10:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [J-Say] How to get Dragon to Insert the Word for a Punctuation Mark?

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Hi, Everyone.
How do I get Dragon to understand that I want to insert the literal word for a punctuation mark e.g., period instead of "." Instead of "Write period after the symbol." I get "Write . after the symbol."

I have to go into Spell Mode and phonetically spell out the word. The document I'm creating has a lot of occurrences of "period", "comma", etc, and I'm not looking forward to having to do phonetic spelling for all of them.

Thanks,
Dani?


Re: How to get Dragon to Insert the Word for a Punctuation Mark?

 

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Dani’s question has started me doing something I should have done long ago, that being, learn more about Dragon itself. So I’ve used the example of “comma full” to place a comma, and also trained the command “singoo” for the same purpose. My first tests showed that none of this worked, until I thought of a principle: these are commands. They have to be dictated like commands, with appropriate pauses, not as part of a string of text. When I dictated thus, the word “comma” was placed in my document. Now, unfortunately, since “commafull was treated as a command, no space was inserted before the next word as there ordinarily would have been, so when I said, “I need to insert a [pause] commafull into my document, the result was “acomma” run together.

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Obviously, more has to be done here. I haven’t begun to experiment with Word’s own AutoText , or better yet, AutoCorrect, feature, to see if that can be used for better results. The goal would be to be able to dictate smoothly and have “commafull” seamlessly replaced by “comma.”

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Note that I’m using Dragon 15.3, and I don’t know if any improvements have been made to the software in 15.6 or 16.0, neither of which I can afford at present.

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Encouraging and thought-provoking reading

https://bahaiteachings.org

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2024 7:47 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [J-Say] How to get Dragon to Insert the Word for a Punctuation Mark?

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Hi, Brian.
I tried adding a custom command the way that you suggested and made sure to follow the directions as you gave them. The commands that I created do not work. I made sure that my profile was loaded and that the microphone is on. When I say "comma full", nothing happens. When I say "comma" the punctuation mark is inserted. The same thing happens with the "period full" command.

Just to experiment I tried the "Train" option under the Advanced section of the Commands editor. I got the same result.

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What should I try next?

Thanks,
Dani

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On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 1:53?AM Brian Hartgen via <brian=[email protected]> wrote:

Whichever way you tackle this using native Dragon techniques, you are going to encounter some difficulties. So I would suggest:

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1. Say, Add New Command.

2. Into the first edit field, give the command a name, such as, Comma Full or Period Full.

3. Tab several times to reach the edit field for entering text.

4. Type, comma or period.

5. Tab to the plain text check box and check it.

6. Tab to Save and press Space.

7. Into your document, say the term you entered, such as, comma full, and the word will be spelled out.

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Brian Hartgen

Hartgen Consultancy.

Our usual opening Hours are 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

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Telephone (in the UK) 02921-051325.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 239-256-7779.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2024 10:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [J-Say] How to get Dragon to Insert the Word for a Punctuation Mark?

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Hi, Everyone.
How do I get Dragon to understand that I want to insert the literal word for a punctuation mark e.g., period instead of "." Instead of "Write period after the symbol." I get "Write . after the symbol."

I have to go into Spell Mode and phonetically spell out the word. The document I'm creating has a lot of occurrences of "period", "comma", etc, and I'm not looking forward to having to do phonetic spelling for all of them.

Thanks,
Dani?