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Re: S-41G or W or Echophone EC-1A good picture of dial face

 

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Ray, Probably any original scales have ?similar problems? So someone would have to somehow reproduce the exact scale “paint scheme layout”.

You did not mention any, scars, chipping, flaking; just fading so a well-diffused lit dead on photo [or a photo scanner] should capture all the printed details.

That should leave only the “white” background to think about.

So was the original 100% white or 98% ,90% or much less [who knows now].

Then there is the amount gloss, or semi-gloss, or matt ?to decide on. My though, from memory is scale backgrounds are not very glossy.. but that might depend on the intended illumination.

However somebody may have done this already for the S-41, and at least have the exact prescription for the black markings. ??

I have one somewhere in hidden deep storage, but mine is a G, not a W.

Remember to keep records, as we might be asking for advice once you are done. ?


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don??? va3drl


Re: S-41G or W or Echophone EC-1A good picture of dial face

 

Just another suggestion: If the dial on your receiver is too far
gone to use as a basis for printing a new one perhaps someone on this
list can supply a suitable photo. Bill has referred you to the list
database, maybe one there. There are people who can generate a decal or
other method of renewing the dial printing. I would think with modern
digital methods this should be fairly easy or at least possible. There
are vendors who sell new dials for old radios, perhaps one can make a
new dial for this receiver.
I am reminded BTW, of the similarity of the S41 to the Echophone.
The S41W shown by another poster, is interesting looking. Don't
think I've ever seen the real thing. Not many receivers made in white
(actually I can't think of another) so I wonder what the intended market
was.


On 12/16/2024 2:11 PM, Ray, W4BYG wrote:
Never have found a source yet for a replacement dial face for my S41G.
This receiver works good and is in excellent physical condition except
for the faded dial face.

I wonder if anyone has a S41"W" model (white dial), or the Echophone
EC-1 with a good dial face that could be photographed such that I could
make a new dial face from an emailed attached photo?

It's not a premium radio of the past, but is in good enough condition to
try to improve the dial face.

I also have a good S-20R and a SX101 and a number of other "golden
oldies" to go with my "rice boxes".

Your assistance would be appreciated.
Ray, W4BYG
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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
SKCC 19998


Re: S-41G or W or Echophone EC-1A good picture of dial face

 

Have you looked at out image database ?
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You might be able to use those images.

K2WH


S-41G or W or Echophone EC-1A good picture of dial face

 

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Never have found a source yet for a replacement dial face for my S41G. This receiver works good and is in excellent physical condition except for the faded dial face.

I wonder if anyone has a S41"W" model (white dial), or the Echophone EC-1 with a good dial face that could be photographed such that I could make a new dial face from an emailed attached photo?

It's not a premium radio of the past, but is in good enough condition to try to improve the dial face.

I also have a good S-20R and a SX101 and a number of other "golden oldies" to go with my "rice boxes".

Your assistance would be appreciated.
Ray, W4BYG
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"The world is desperate for a faith that combines two things: awestruck sight of unshakable divine Truth, and 
utterly practical, round-the-clock power to make a liberating difference in life"... John Piper


Re: CW Sidetone ideas

 

I know I'm late to the party, but the old Electronics Illustrated "Scrounger" 10 Watt 6V6 tube transmitter project (Link here: ) had a 1 transistor "keying Monitor" that one could make to monitor the CW tone. Just relaying in case in one would be interested.
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73, Gordon KJ6IKT


Re: HT-44 Common Problem?

 

Yep - I read your document on the issues you ran across before starting any work on my receiver.? Oddly, all other resistors in my receiver were well within tolerance.? The guy I bought it from told me that he didn't think the SX-117 or HT-44 had ever been used.??
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73, Floyd


Re: HT-44 Common Problem?

 

Hi Floyd,
Yep, my HT-44 also had a failed 22k resistor in that circuit.? It measured 568 ohms.? I replaced it and the others which weren't so far off.? At least one 1k and one 220 ohm resistor were also out of spec.? I replaced a lot of resistors in that circuit.? A prior owner had replaced the carrier balance potentiometer.? One of the 12BH7s had a bad section; replaced that too.? And a 12AX7 was bad...replaced.
One difference is that it didn't fail on my watch; I got it that way.
Cheers,
Halden VE7UTS


Re: HT-44/SX-117 CW Offset Solution

 
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Yes nice work.
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If you want can you send me a PDF of the circuit and I will put it on the site with credit to you.
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K2WH@...

K2WH


Re: HT-44/SX-117 CW Offset Solution

 

Nice work, Floyd.?
I'd appreciate a PDF to W8KZW@....
Thanks!?
73
Jeff


Re: HT-44 Common Problem?

 

I got some 3 watt 22k resistors from Amazon.? Slightly smaller than the original carbon 2 watt.? Will use them if the problem occurs again.


Re: CW Sidetone ideas

 

I use noise-cancelling headphones much of the time on CW and a stand-alone generator could not be heard.??


HT-44/SX-117 CW Offset Solution

 
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I've finished testing my modification for providing a CW offset when running the HT-44 and SX-117 in transceive mode under control of the receiver VFO.? This is a "no-holes" modification that's inexpensive to implement and provides true CW transceive operation.? In other words, with your slide switch in XCVR position, you can tune the receiver to a station and call him and you'll be zero beat with him (or very nearly).? Without the modification, using transceive mode on CW is useless as calling a station you hear results in you being off his frequency by a difference equal to the frequency of the tone you're listening to.? The circuitry resides on a small board mounted near the VFO capacitor leads under the SX-117 chassis.? A cable between the HT-44 octal plug and the RCA jack labeled ANT on the SX-117 connects the circuit to a N/O relay contact in the HT-44.? When the HT-44 goes to transmit, the relay causes the SX-117 VFO offset to occur.
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The mod does not affect the stability of the VFO and is easily removed.? When operating SSB in transceive mode, you unplug the cable mentioned above and then the offset does not occur.? Schematic follows.? Probably unreadable and no way to increase the size here, so if interested, let me know and I'll email it to you.
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73, Floyd - K8AC
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Re: CW Sidetone ideas

 

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It's been a long while, but I recall a simple battery powered stand-alone side tone generator that worked quite well by simply responding to RF . No attachment at all to the transmitter or receiver. When I have time, I'll look back in my archives for schematics and other data. I was also using the HT-44 / SX-117 combo.? (Currently stored away now, but in pristine condition).?


Re: CW Sidetone ideas

 
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Thanks for sharing.


Walt Cates, WD0GOF
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A majority of acceptance is not proof of correctness.



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Floyd - K8AC via groups.io <floydsense@...>
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2024 11:16 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HallicraftersRadios] CW Sidetone ideas
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Walt - The sidetone generator is complete and working well.? The generator circuitry is housed in an external minibox and there are zero modifications to the SX-117 or HT-44.? All connections to the gear are external.? No special parts required other than the high voltage PNP transistor.? I'm not an engineer and I suspect there are more elegant ways to accomplish this, but it does work well for me.? Here is the schematic and a photo of the unit.
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73, Floyd - K8AC


Re: CW Sidetone ideas

 
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Walt - The sidetone generator is complete and working well.? The generator circuitry is housed in an external minibox and there are zero modifications to the SX-117 or HT-44.? All connections to the gear are external.? No special parts required other than the high voltage PNP transistor.? I'm not an engineer and I suspect there are more elegant ways to accomplish this, but it does work well for me.? Here is the schematic and a photo of the unit.
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73, Floyd - K8AC


Hallicrafters Radios Prices in 1959

 

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Hi all,

Digging in old museum papers sometimes provide some interesting views to the past.

See attached.

The prices are in 1959 Canadian dollars.

Payette Radio was the biggest consumer/industrial electronics supplier in eastern Canada then.

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73, Jacques, VE2JFE in Montreal


Re: HT-45 tuning

 

Brian, be careful working on this amp, those voltages in the amp can kill you !
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K2WH


Re: HT-45 tuning

 

Brian,
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If the power supply is wired properly, as Ed indicated, the "PLATE" light will only illuminate when AC is provided to the HV relay.? (I.E. the PLATE switch is ON? and the FIL switch is ON)
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Also, if HV is available, the NE51 on the power supply box will only illuminate if actual HV is present
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The FIL switch provides AC to the Blower and filament transformer and to the HV SWITCH powering the HV relay in the power supply such that HV cannot be switched on unless the FIL switch is on.?
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The operator has to wait after powering the filaments so as to allow time for? mercury vapor rectifiers to heat (use 3B28's and the time is much less....and if you replace with solid state rectifiers, you essentially eliminate the need to wait at all.....the 3-400 like the 4-400 & 3-500 filaments are essentially "instant-ON" (R & L Drake applies FIL and HV simultaneously in the?? L-4/L-4B/L-7 amplfiers)
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But to your question, IF the HV "light" (on the power supply)? is illuminated with the HV switch OFF (after waiting for the filter cap to discharge) .....it would appear the HV switch is either staying closed or the relay contacts are "welded" --ON.?
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Note that the primary power is ALWAYS present at the relay regardless of switch position.? Closing the relay then applies power to the plate transformer.?
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When I rebuilt my power supply using the Drake L-4B transformer, I eliminated the rectifier filament transformer, the original plate transformer, oil cap and choke.? I used? pair of SEMTEC 5000V solid state rectifiers PLUS a (Harbach) filter-cap board for a Heathkit SB220.? I wired the entire mess similar to an L-4B using a voltage doubler.
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I also eliminated the relay and used a pair of solid state relays in each leg of? 240VAC? powering the transformer.
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I did however keep the HV "light" which only illuminates with HV present.? It's a great safety feature.
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Brian <1codetech@...> wrote
I have a question. I just noticed that when I switch on the "fil" switch the "plate" and "filiments" lights both come on. If I switch the plate to "on" the light still stays on. Is this normal? If not what could be the issue?
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73/Rick
W7IMM
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Re: HT-45 tuning

Brian
 

Thank you very much for the reply. I will look at the switch. They are old. The original power supply for the HT-45 did not come with the AMP. The power supply that came with the amp has been converted to not use tubes. DC voltage is not present with the "filament" switch turned off but does show 2600 when the "filament" switch is turned on.
The amp does put out 500 watts with 45w from the exciter. I just do not want to damage the 400Z tube.
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Thank you always.
W6BPT


Re: HT-45 tuning

 

Brian <1codetech@...> wrote
I have a question. I just noticed that when I switch on the "fil" switch the "plate" and "filiments" lights both come on. If I switch the plate to "on" the light still stays on. Is this normal? If not what could be the issue?
Hi, Brian

Does the HV power supply still use 866A or 3B28 rectifier tubes?
If a previous owner had changed to solid state rectifiers,
he would not need the heaters on, but plate voltage off preliminary
warm-up for the rectifier tubes before plate voltage is applied.
Hallicrafters says a 4 minute warm up is needed, Collins in the KWS-1
only used a 30 second warm up. You can ruin the rectifier tubes
if HV is applied immediately, because the mercury within the tube
needs preheating.

Is the DC Voltage still indicated on the HT-45 panel meter when the HV switch is off? If so, that's a problem. The "plate" indicator is a neon
lamp, so even a very high resistance path across the plate switch
contacts would be enough for it to light, without necessarily
passing enough current to turn on the relay in the HV supply.

Does the neon light in the HV power supply stay on when the HV switch is switched off? It should take a few minutes for it to go off completely,
as the bleeder resistors in the HV supply drain the capacitor.

The most likely failure is a that the plate switch of the HT-45 is stuck "on". That switch connects to the relay coil in the power supply,
which applies AC to the primary of the HV transformer.

I don't own an HT-45, I'm just going by the manual downloaded from BAMA.

73,
Ed Knobloch K4PF