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Re: Interesting observation concerning crystals...

 

Hi Steve,
I’ll put a check in the mail to you tomorrow for three of them. Thanks for making them available.
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Re: WTB SR-160 Front Panel

 

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Greetings,

I am not sure if this thread regarding a front panel applies to Scott or Walt, but I would be willing to swap an SR-160 panel for an SR-500 panel. My SR-160 was not original when I got it as it had a solid state VFO (while a great addition, it was not "stock"). Subsequently, I did the mods that were implemented when the SR-160 was turned into the SR-500 by Hallicrafters so it is neither a stock SR-160 nor SR-500.

If the 'Robert' in your email is meant for me, you can reach me directly at rwkembel at comcast dot net.

Bob,? K7DYB


On 3/15/2025 7:45 PM, Scott WA9WFA via groups.io wrote:

Hi Robert, I was unable to find your personal email to take this discussion off line. ?Please drop me an email at wa9wfa at gmail dot com. ? Here is an internet photo of an SR-160. ?Thanks. ?73, Scott WA9WFA
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Re: WTB SR-160 Front Panel

 

Hi Robert, I was unable to find your personal email to take this discussion off line. ?Please drop me an email at wa9wfa at gmail dot com. ? Here is an internet photo of an SR-160. ?Thanks. ?73, Scott WA9WFA
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Hallicrafters SR-160
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Re: WTB SR-160 Front Panel

 
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Scott,
I may have a parts SR160 around here.? Please send me a pic? of the panel, make it easier to look at the shelves.
THanks
Robert

On Saturday, March 15, 2025 at 02:45:00 PM EDT, Scott WA9WFA via groups.io <whitebear1122@...> wrote:


First off, I need to apologize to the guys here that responded to my SR-500 Tornado and SR-160 WTB post and didn’t hear back from me. ?I was on the road.

Next, while on the road, I stopped by Walt Cates' QTH in Kansas City where I had the pleasure of meeting him and buying his SR-500 Tornado and PS-500AC. ?It’s in my shack and on the air. ?My first contact was with W1AW believe it or not. ?

For several years Walt has been looking for an SR-160 panel to replace this SR-500 panel. ?The Tornado panel is the same as the 160 with the exception of the metal Tornado label below the escutcheon. ?The metal label is removable. ?Walt wasn’t able to find one in all those years, but I thought I would continue the search, so I know it’s a long shot.

I just can’t leave a radio alone but prefer to spiff up and putter with them. ?I think this would be a fun spiff up project if a panel can be located. ?If not, fine, I am delighted with the radio never-the-less! ?



73, Scott WA9WFA


Re: SX-62 alignment instructions

 

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Thanks!, I didn't look up which pin did what, I thought it could have been the plate, and pulling the tube would isolate the RF coming in. SX-62B


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of don Root <drootofallevil@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2025 1:06 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HallicraftersRadios] SX-62 alignment instructions
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Scott, It is a SX-62 {no suffix} ?

Since the signal is injected on the grid, it would seem the tube would have to be in service. ??

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Petersen via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2025 6:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [HallicraftersRadios] SX-62 alignment instructions

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Hi Guys,

In the instructions it says to connect a .1mfd capacitor to pin 1 of the 7F8, do I leave the tube in circuit, or put the lead directly in the socket?

Should I remove the chassis side cover, or will it make a difference to the alignment, same with the RF shield under the IF's?

Thanks,

Scott


WTB SR-160 Front Panel

 
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First off, I need to apologize to the guys here that responded to my SR-500 Tornado and SR-160 WTB post and didn’t hear back from me. ?I was on the road.

Next, while on the road, I stopped by Walt Cates' QTH in Kansas City where I had the pleasure of meeting him and buying his SR-500 Tornado and PS-500AC. ?It’s in my shack and on the air. ?My first contact was with W1AW believe it or not. ?

For several years Walt has been looking for an SR-160 panel to replace this SR-500 panel. ?The Tornado panel is the same as the 160 with the exception of the metal Tornado label below the escutcheon. ?The metal label is removable. ?Walt wasn’t able to find one in all those years, but I thought I would continue the search, so I know it’s a long shot.

I just can’t leave a radio alone but prefer to spiff up and putter with them. ?I think this would be a fun spiff up project if a panel can be located. ?If not, fine, I am delighted with the radio never-the-less! ?



73, Scott WA9WFA


Re: SX-62 alignment instructions

 

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Scott, It is a SX-62 {no suffix} ?

Since the signal is injected on the grid, it would seem the tube would have to be in service. ??

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Petersen via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2025 6:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [HallicraftersRadios] SX-62 alignment instructions

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Hi Guys,

In the instructions it says to connect a .1mfd capacitor to pin 1 of the 7F8, do I leave the tube in circuit, or put the lead directly in the socket?

Should I remove the chassis side cover, or will it make a difference to the alignment, same with the RF shield under the IF's?

Thanks,

Scott

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don??? va3drl


Re: S-20R, S-40B, R-26/ARC-5

 

Hi, Ed,

Yes, I will replace those capacitors. This is a little different than
the usual recap in that those old capacitors are part of the visual
appeal of the underside of the unit (does that matter? Maybe I'm just
getting too old). So I will replace them electrically but leave the old
ones in place physically. I will, of course, completely disconnect the
old caps as bridging new ones across them won't fix some of the issues
they may have.

I recently recapped my Echophone EC-1A and an S-38 (no suffix) is in the
queue. The command set won't be much different except for the need to
physically mount the new caps.

One of the reasons for saving the old caps is that some folks have
opened the old ones carefully and inserted new caps and then closed
them. There is an article somewhere about how to do that but I think I
will just replace them electrically and leave them in place physically
in case some future owner wants to restore them.

That's sort of the same thing as restuffing an electrolytic can in a
Hallicrafters receiver except that almost nobody will ever see the
underside of an R-26 once the bottom plate is screwed in place.

I have a copy of "Command Sets" by CQ Magazine in 1957 (134 pages) and
it has a wealth of articles and schematics. When there were thousands
of these units available at $5.00 apiece (what I paid in 1957) people
made all sorts of things from them, VFOs for one thing.

73,

Maynard
W6PAP


On 3/14/25 16:20, edward schumacher wrote:
Could not speak to who influenced the design of the Command receivers
but a word of caution. If you have followed their history, be aware of
the likely failure of those neat looking can bypass capacitors. My
BC-453 began experiencing failure of those decades ago after 10 years of
excellent service starting in the mid 60's.

Before applying a new power supply it might be wise to just go ahead and
replace all of those with new ceramic bypasses. The oil filled cans
deteriorate even when not in use and go dead short. I was able to see
the burn paths clearly through the mica after failures.

Otherwise, enjoy the restoration. No reason it should not still be a
good performer.

73 ... Ed, WA9GQK

On Friday, March 14, 2025 at 05:08:41 PM CDT, Maynard Wright via
groups.io <m-wright@...> wrote:


I bought my first piece of radio equipment in 1957 at age 14, an
R-26/ARC-5 command set receiver. I still have it but haven't used it
for years.

I'm pondering working up a power supply for it to get it back on the
air, probably paired with my Multi-Elmac AF-67 transmitter, which is
usually paired with my S-40B.

In looking over the schematic of the R-26 and thinking about the recent
discussions of the circuitry of the S-20R and S-40B, I note a lot of
similarity between the command set receiver and the Hallicrafters. The
command set uses 12 volt tubes while the two Halli receivers use 6 volt
tubes, some of them equivalent except for the filament voltage.

The R-26 includes no band switching and covers 3-6 MHz which are the
main differences between it and the two Hallicrafters receivers. The IF
frequency in the R-26 is also much higher, at 1415 kHz, not a practical
frequency for the bandswitched Hallis with coverage down to the low end
of the BC band.

The most interesting (to me) similarity is the use of "gimmick"
capacitors in all three receivers to couple the BFO signal to the
transmission path:

S-20R C15 twisted leads to form small capacity
S-40B C38 2 mmf. "Gimmick" (in schematic)
twisted wire assembly (in parts list)
R-26 C33 <2 mmf. wiring capacitance

The S-20R also uses a "gimmick" to couple the high frequency oscillator
signal in the mixer stage (C38).

I haven't looked in detail at other makes of receivers from the '30 and
'40s, but I wonder whether the S-20R and the R-26 were just reflecting
similarities due to good engineering practice of that era, or did
someone from Hallicrafters influence the design?

73,

Maynard
W6PAP


Re: S-20R, S-40B, R-26/ARC-5

 
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Maynard ??there is a bit of stuff here? Rr the ?R26 and others

I am visitor no?

See also ??????

Schematic ?? ??but very hard to read

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I see a wiring diagram on? Page pdf 195 ??in? ?? no OCR? and

Pdf page 142 has schematic? ,here is a fragment

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I know NOTHING about this stuff, ?so I hope it might help

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maynard Wright via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2025 6:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [HallicraftersRadios] S-20R, S-40B, R-26/ARC-5

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I bought my first piece of radio equipment in 1957 at age 14, an
R-26/ARC-5 command set receiver. I still have it but haven't used it
for years.

I'm pondering working up a power supply for it to get it back on the
air, probably paired with my Multi-Elmac AF-67 transmitter, which is
usually paired with my S-40B.

In looking over the schematic of the R-26 and thinking about the recent
discussions of the circuitry of the S-20R and S-40B, I note a lot of
similarity between the command set receiver and the Hallicrafters. The
command set uses 12 volt tubes while the two Halli receivers use 6 volt
tubes, some of them equivalent except for the filament voltage.

The R-26 includes no band switching and covers 3-6 MHz which are the
main differences between it and the two Hallicrafters receivers. The IF
frequency in the R-26 is also much higher, at 1415 kHz, not a practical
frequency for the bandswitched Hallis with coverage down to the low end
of the BC band.

The most interesting (to me) similarity is the use of "gimmick"
capacitors in all three receivers to couple the BFO signal to the
transmission path:

S-20R C15 twisted leads to form small capacity
S-40B C38 2 mmf. "Gimmick" (in schematic)
twisted wire assembly (in parts list)
R-26 C33 <2 mmf. wiring capacitance

The S-20R also uses a "gimmick" to couple the high frequency oscillator
signal in the mixer stage (C38).

I haven't looked in detail at other makes of receivers from the '30 and
'40s, but I wonder whether the S-20R and the R-26 were just reflecting
similarities due to good engineering practice of that era, or did
someone from Hallicrafters influence the design?

73,

Maynard
W6PAP

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don??? va3drl


Re: S-20R, S-40B, R-26/ARC-5

 

Could not speak to who influenced the design of the Command receivers but a word of caution. If you have followed their history, be aware of the likely failure of those neat looking can bypass capacitors. My BC-453 began experiencing failure of those decades ago after 10 years of excellent service starting in the mid 60's.

Before applying a new power supply it might be wise to just go ahead and replace all of those with new ceramic bypasses. The oil filled cans deteriorate even when not in use and go dead short. I was able to see the burn paths clearly through the mica after failures.

Otherwise, enjoy the restoration. No reason it should not still be a good performer.

73 ... Ed, WA9GQK

On Friday, March 14, 2025 at 05:08:41 PM CDT, Maynard Wright via groups.io <m-wright@...> wrote:


I bought my first piece of radio equipment in 1957 at age 14, an
R-26/ARC-5 command set receiver. I still have it but haven't used it
for years.

I'm pondering working up a power supply for it to get it back on the
air, probably paired with my Multi-Elmac AF-67 transmitter, which is
usually paired with my S-40B.

In looking over the schematic of the R-26 and thinking about the recent
discussions of the circuitry of the S-20R and S-40B, I note a lot of
similarity between the command set receiver and the Hallicrafters. The
command set uses 12 volt tubes while the two Halli receivers use 6 volt
tubes, some of them equivalent except for the filament voltage.

The R-26 includes no band switching and covers 3-6 MHz which are the
main differences between it and the two Hallicrafters receivers. The IF
frequency in the R-26 is also much higher, at 1415 kHz, not a practical
frequency for the bandswitched Hallis with coverage down to the low end
of the BC band.

The most interesting (to me) similarity is the use of "gimmick"
capacitors in all three receivers to couple the BFO signal to the
transmission path:

S-20R C15 twisted leads to form small capacity
S-40B C38 2 mmf. "Gimmick" (in schematic)
twisted wire assembly (in parts list)
R-26 C33 <2 mmf. wiring capacitance

The S-20R also uses a "gimmick" to couple the high frequency oscillator
signal in the mixer stage (C38).

I haven't looked in detail at other makes of receivers from the '30 and
'40s, but I wonder whether the S-20R and the R-26 were just reflecting
similarities due to good engineering practice of that era, or did
someone from Hallicrafters influence the design?

73,

Maynard
W6PAP


Re: Interesting observation concerning crystals...

 

The ProgRock2's are $18 each (same as the QRP Labs site), and shipping is $5 (total).? I ship stuff in little boxes, rather than padded envelopes, which raises the cost a little but nothing arrives smashed by post office processing equipment.? Total is $59.

Is the shipping address correct on QRZ?? I'm good on QRZ as well.? Just a check in the mail is preferred, and I will send this out right away.??

If anyone else ever needs ProgRock2's, I have a plentiful stock -- no need to order from Turkey.

73 - Steve, KW4H
On Friday, March 14th, 2025 at 3:39 PM, Tom Smith <n5ama@...> wrote:

Steve, that sounds great. I’m not sure how the Beckman will respond to a square wave but it’s certainly worth a try. I would like to buy 3 of them. What is your preferred payment method and what shipping costs do I need to include to Texas (77429)?
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Thanks,
Tom N5AMA


SX-62 alignment instructions

 

Hi Guys,
In the instructions it says to connect a .1mfd capacitor to pin 1 of the 7F8, do I leave the tube in circuit, or put the lead directly in the socket?
Should I remove the chassis side cover, or will it make a difference to the alignment, same with the RF shield under the IF's?
Thanks,
Scott


Re: Interesting observation concerning crystals...

 

Steve, that sounds great. I’m not sure how the Beckman will respond to a square wave but it’s certainly worth a try. I would like to buy 3 of them. What is your preferred payment method and what shipping costs do I need to include to Texas (77429)?
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Thanks,
Tom N5AMA


S-20R, S-40B, R-26/ARC-5

 

I bought my first piece of radio equipment in 1957 at age 14, an
R-26/ARC-5 command set receiver. I still have it but haven't used it
for years.

I'm pondering working up a power supply for it to get it back on the
air, probably paired with my Multi-Elmac AF-67 transmitter, which is
usually paired with my S-40B.

In looking over the schematic of the R-26 and thinking about the recent
discussions of the circuitry of the S-20R and S-40B, I note a lot of
similarity between the command set receiver and the Hallicrafters. The
command set uses 12 volt tubes while the two Halli receivers use 6 volt
tubes, some of them equivalent except for the filament voltage.

The R-26 includes no band switching and covers 3-6 MHz which are the
main differences between it and the two Hallicrafters receivers. The IF
frequency in the R-26 is also much higher, at 1415 kHz, not a practical
frequency for the bandswitched Hallis with coverage down to the low end
of the BC band.

The most interesting (to me) similarity is the use of "gimmick"
capacitors in all three receivers to couple the BFO signal to the
transmission path:

S-20R C15 twisted leads to form small capacity
S-40B C38 2 mmf. "Gimmick" (in schematic)
twisted wire assembly (in parts list)
R-26 C33 <2 mmf. wiring capacitance

The S-20R also uses a "gimmick" to couple the high frequency oscillator
signal in the mixer stage (C38).

I haven't looked in detail at other makes of receivers from the '30 and
'40s, but I wonder whether the S-20R and the R-26 were just reflecting
similarities due to good engineering practice of that era, or did
someone from Hallicrafters influence the design?

73,

Maynard
W6PAP


Re: Interesting observation concerning crystals...

 

Justin - you did the right thing in that SB-303.? The number of frequencies that can be readily switched with the ProgRock2 is a maximum of eight.? Technically it can output 24 pre-programmed frequencies (3 banks of 8 frequencies each), but switching the bank output when using the device to replace a heterodyne oscillator section where more than 8 crystals are involved is so difficult, it's best to just use the Arduino.? I did the same in a SB-313.

73 - Steve, KW4H

On Friday, March 14th, 2025 at 9:55 AM, Justin Bowser - KI5GKD <justin.bowser@...> wrote:

Oh, I received and SB-303 last year that had a lot of dead crystals so replaced them all with an Arduino andsi5351 module...
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/g/heathkit/message/7651
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KI5GKD


Re: Interesting observation concerning crystals...

 

Oh, I received and SB-303 last year that had a lot of dead crystals so replaced them all with an Arduino andsi5351 module...
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/g/heathkit/message/7651
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Justin B.
KI5GKD


Re: Interesting observation concerning crystals...

 

Steve - I don't subscribe to ER so would it be possible to e-mail me a copy of your article or post it here?
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73,
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Justin B.
KI5GKD


Re: Interesting observation concerning crystals...

 

Tom,

I keep a fairly large stock of the ProgRock2's -- if you need some and don't want to wait for delivery from Turkey, just let me know -- you can buy them from me at the same price listed on the QRP Labs website.? I'm not officially a reseller, but ordered a bunch for use with the interface boards I designed and for other fun projects.

One thing to keep in mind about the ProgRock2 is that although it's advertised as a "programmable crystal", it's not exactly a drop-in replacement.? The ProgRock2 is, in actuality, a programmable oscillator that outputs a 3v P-P square wave, driven by a Si5351a.? In fact, you can simulate the use of a ProgRock2 by using a function generator at the frequency you're looking for, and set it for a square wave at 3v P-P.? The trick is to figure out how to integrate it in a vintage circuit.

73 - Steve, KW4H

On Friday, March 14th, 2025 at 8:08 AM, Tom Smith <n5ama@...> wrote:

Hi Steve,
Thanks for the quick reply and the offer to help. I have a complete collection of the ER magazines (have had a subscription since ER#8) and enjoy it more than any magazine I receive. I will certainly look up your article and if it looks like I can manage to program one of these devices, I will certainly order several. I’m replacing crystals in a Beckman 905 receiver that receives WWV signals from 2.5-25mhz.
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Thanks again,
Tom N5AMA


Re: Interesting observation concerning crystals...

 

Hi Steve,
Thanks for the quick reply and the offer to help. I have a complete collection of the ER magazines (have had a subscription since ER#8) and enjoy it more than any magazine I receive. I will certainly look up your article and if it looks like I can manage to program one of these devices, I will certainly order several. I’m replacing crystals in a Beckman 905 receiver that receives WWV signals from 2.5-25mhz.
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Thanks again,
Tom N5AMA


Re: Interesting observation concerning crystals...

 
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Thomas,
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I wrote an article last year called "Programmable Crystals to the Rescue", which was published in the March/April 2024 edition of ER Magazine.? That article describes in great detail how a ProgRock2 was integrated into a Heathkit HR-1680 and exactly how to program the device.? If you have access to that article, a lot of your questions will be answered.? Otherwise, I'd be happy to answer them here.? I still use the ProgRock2 for my projects when needed, and have also designed an interface board that makes it easier to integrate.
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73 - Steve, KW4H
Tucson, AZ
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On Friday, March 14th, 2025 at 6:29 AM, Tom Smith <n5ama@...> wrote:

This package looks great and less expensive than ordering a crystal not to mention the reduced lead time. I opened the QRP Labs manual for this devise and had trouble with programming it for a specific frequency. It looks ideal to fit in a HC6/U but for a non computer savvy old timer, the programming of this devise to a specific frequency is a mystery.