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SX-117 Reciever Tuning Mechanism Slipping.
I just received a very nice SX-117, and started to clean it up. What is
nice about it, it only had light surface dust on it and cleaning up was only wiping down with a rag and some pressurized air. Needs a few tubes, their on order. Got down to the main tuning control and it was slipping badly. The compression disks were basically rotating without any friction to turn the main tuning dial or the tuning cap. This is the fix I tried and it worked nicely. 1) With a syringe oil applicator, applied lubrication (light oil) to all bearings or rotating parts in the tuning mechanism, including the main tuning cap brearings. 2) Carefully, very carefully, used a de-greaser to clean out the gunk between the friction plates. The degreaser can melt plastic so a spray tube was used to target just the metal parts. Lots of black gunk came out. 3) Rotated the tuning back and forth and whenever it slipped, hit the friction plates with more de-greaser. 4) Vaseline lubed, the brass main tuning gearing. The radio now has solid tuning, no slippage at all. Bill G. K2WH |
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Our first television
w1nra
Just thought i'd mention that the first television we had, around
1953 I guess it was, was a Hallicrafters. Around 21 inch B&W. It did have VHF AND UHF tuners. We lived in Columbus Ga and there was one UHF (28) and one VHF (4) station. Before that you could see some station out of Atlanta Ga that was mostly snow... It was only on a few hours in the afternoon and us kids would go to one of the few houses that had a TV and all sit around the living room and watch Howdy Doody and Roy Rogers/Gabby Hayes when the pix would come in good enough to see anything. Otherwise we could hear the audio most of the time. Man we thought we were UP TOWN. It was like a theater with 8 or 10 of us sitting there on the floor trying to see these first TV shows in our area. The house we went to was on top of a high hill and they had one of those fancy antennas..ha ha remember the stacked conical antennas, like a dipole with a reflector and sometimes stacked from 2 to 6 together and they were always on top of a telephone pole set in the yard. This was great television for us kids as we had never seen anything like this before. I tried to find a pix of the old tv but havent found that model yet. I guess it was pretty fancy for the time and did have a large screen. Local tv stayed on til about maybe 10 or 11 at night. After getting out of the Navy (Electronics tech, Radar) I did work as a studio engineer for one of these stations in the late 60's. Jerry / W1NRA |
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Re: Our first television
Interesting story. I haven't a clue as to what was our first TV. I
know when I was in my early teens or just prior to that ~ 10 years old, we had a Magnavox. Earlier than that, I don't think we could afford a TV. Come to think of it, I don't remember watching TV at all in my early youth. This would be 1950 to 1960. Hmmm. Maybe I was deprived as a kid. So, if you had a Hallicrafters and a TV to boot, you were as you say, UP TOWN. Lucky guy. K2WH |
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Re: Our first television
Jerry/W1NRA
Bill
That was the ONLY hallicrafter TV that I every saw! I do see several small screen earlier?models on the internet but never did see another one.
The UHF tuner did go out after a while and the only way they could be repaired in those days was to ADD a converter box on the top of the set. A bit after that time the local UHF station changed to chan 9 so it wasn't a problem.
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Jerry / W1NRA
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Re: Our first television
"I tried to find a pix of the old tv but havent found that model yet."
I don't know if you have it, but Chuck Dachis' book "Radios By Hallicrafters" has many pictures of old hallicrafters TV's, many of them the large console types. So, if you do not have the book, maybe you should get yourself one. Even without the TV search, it is loaded with alot of images and information about all Hallicrafters equipment. K2WH |
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Re: Our first television
Jerry/W1NRA
Thanks Bill but it wouldn't be worth it for me to buy the book. I just tried to find it on the internet so i could post it in your photos section. Thanks for the info though.
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TV stories.
Hi Jerry / Bill & others;
An interesting TV story Jerry. I grew up in Spokane and left for college (1951) before TV had arrived in Spokane. Seattle had a channel or two but while in college for four years I saw maybe a total of one or two hours. After college I entered the Air Force and was stationed in Cheyenne, Wyoming which also had no TV stations (at least until after 1957). Denver was 100 miles to the South and when one of the fellows in the BOQ left the Air Force I bought his Admiral 17 in. TV for $25. I built my own antenna by salvaging 1/4 in. aluminum tubing from a scrapped B-29 fuselage on base (a director, dipole, and reflector mounted on a wooden beam). The signal was just ok but it was fun building the antenna and mounting it on the roof of the BOQ. I had the TV for 20 years and during that time replaced the picture tube, fly-back transformer, and a bunch of other tubes. TV is still kind of low on my priority of things to do. As Bill mentioned, you should get a copy of Chuck Dachis' Hallicrafters book - well worth the price. 73, Skip Magnuson W7WGM |
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Re: Canadian Hallicrafters Products in Chuck's Book
There are some and they are largely consumer type products. He doesn't mention that they are canadian, but I have enough of them to know that at least some are. I also have anSC-77A that was made in Canada.
73, John, W4AWM |
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Canadian Hallicrafters Products
I just found a Halli product that is not in Chucks book. The owner states
it is a Canada Hallicrafters product. My question, did Chuck include Canada Hallicrafters products in his book? K2WH |
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SX-117 Problem
Hi guys, working on my sx-117 and encountered a strange problem and want to
pass it by the crowd. I was having trouble receiving signals until I realized the BFO control was turned all the way to the right. Rotating the control all the way to the left, brought the receiver back to life. AM works great but SSB has a problem. The sound of SSB sounded similar to an IF shift control being turned to far to one side (tinny). Reading the alignment procedure for the BFO, I followed it exactly. It states, put the receiver in USB, put on the 100kc calibrator and tune to almost zero beat. Switch to LSB and the beat note should not change appreciably. Well, when I switched sidebands, the zero beat was out of there. Going further in the book, I followed the "Major" BFO adjustment procedure and the receiver came back beautifully. Nice signals good reception, AM and SSB but, here is the perplexing problem. I can set the rig to LSB, and tune in a LSB signal. Switching to USB, results in the signal moving 1khz in one direction or the other (crystals). This is normal. However, I can retune the same LSB signal and understand the signal as though the receiver was still in LSB even though the receiver is in USB mode! Basically, it does not seem to matter if the receiver is in LSB or USB, I can still make any SSB signal regardless of their sideband, intelligible. I believe it is a BFO thing. I think it is out of adjustment and inserting carrier when it should not. Sort of like an older receiver without a product detector. With a BFO, it did not matter what sideband the transmitting station was on, you could always tune it in. Any ideas out there would be greatly appreciated. Bill K2WH |
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SX-117 USB/LSB Reception Problem Solved
Solved the USB/LSB switching problem in my SX-117. As I guessed, the BFO
was out of alignment but not a heck of a lot and I needed to get it back to its center frequency of 50 khz. The manual states the BFO frequency is set at exactly (their words) 50 khz. Looking at the schematic, I determined I could connect my 756pro test rig through a coupling cap and find out where the BFO was on the spectrum scope. I found it at 48.6 khz. I unlocked the BFO control, and carefully rotated the slug till I had exactly a 50khz blip on the scope. At that point I locked down the BFO (mechanically) and tried the receiver again. It now acts like a true SSB receiver in that I can no longer receive USB and LSB in any mode SSB position. USB is now USB and LSB is now LSB on the mode switch. One thing is puzzling to me however. The manual says to "not use the BFO to tune in signals", and "it is set at the factory at exactly 50 khz". Why then oh why, would Hallicrafters bring the BFO frequency control out the front panel so you can change the frequency? Other rigs let you adjust the BFO level or just turn it on or off but they don't provide a control to change the BFO frequency. My SX-111 just has an on/off BFO switch. My SX-17 has a BFO level control. Most rigs just have BFO on or off. Why Hallicrafters brought out the control, I cannot answer but, I think maybe this BFO control, the ability to change frequency, was a precursor to the "IF Shift" control found on many of today's rigs. What do you think? K2WH |
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SX-117 Alignment and Strange Happenings
Just performed a complete alignment of the SX-117 and all went well
with better performance. Having the proper equipment to perform the alignment is of great help of course. Anyway, before the alignment, and after this alignment, I still have inverted USB and LSB. That is, in the LSB switch postion, I actually receive USB and in USB I receive in LSB. I swapped the (2) crystals, 1.600khz and 1.700 khz, and all is fine. However, the sockets the crystal go in are labeled the other way. In other words, to get the USB/LSB correct, I switched the crystal into the opposing sockets. The 1600khz crystal in the 1.700khz socket and so forth. I checked the crystal frequencies and they are exactly on frequency. Checking the USB/LSB switching, the correct crystal is being selected. Now I have a delima where I have physically reversed the crystals into the incorrect sockets, but the receiver works. Anyone with ideas of what is going on here? Is it possible Hallicrafters labeled the socket incorrectly or put the socket in backwards. Could someone have rewired the switch to socket connection. K2WH |
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S-38C antenna
I'm new to the group and I'm just wondering what kinds of
antennas (length, electrical arrangement) people have used with a Hallicrafters radio such as the S38 type (or similar). Has anyone used a loop antenna with a model such as the S38? A previous owner an S38 radio suggested an untuned long wire antenna, but a 40 ft length of wire seemed to cause a lot of overloading on mine. Also, AM is quite noisy (probably local noise) below 800 kHz with a long wire. I'm interested in details like lengths and / or electrical arrangements (dipole,sloper, etc.) that have been used. I'd welcome hearing anyone's shortwave and AM listening experiences with a S38 model. Thanks Tuberadioguy |
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Re: S-38C antenna
Tom Zyniecki
Hi I use a slinky antenna home made but like the antennas sold on
ebay. Its hanging on a hook on my shop door. I do not think I have $5 invested. A pece of wire a push on connector to fit the slinky and some pvc pipe to insulate the ends. Tom --- In HallicraftersRadios@..., "tuberadioguy" <jabakdb@s...> wrote: I'm new to the group and I'm just wondering what kinds ofantenna, but a 40 ft length of wire seemed to cause a lot of overloadingexperiences with a S38 model. |
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Re: S-38C antenna
开云体育For a receiver such as the S-38, almost any long wire, straight or looped will work fine.? I would just put up as much wire as possible and go from there.? If you are experiencing overloading, then I would check the receiver AVC circuit. Perhaps it is not functioning correctly.? Have you checked the tubes? ? K2WH ? From: HallicraftersRadios@...
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SX-117 Knobs
Still working on the SX-117 receiver. This is probably known by many old
radio restoration experts but I tried this idea with the knobs and it came out quite well and I thought I would pass it along. The knobs on the SX-117 and similar series radios, all have a white reference line running the length of the knob from panel to the front of the knob. On my SX-117 (probably used a lot), most of the white line has been worn off. What I did was to take each knob individually, put it in a small padded vise (to hold it steady) and using blue masking tape (blue leaves no residue), I masked off the knob areas to only show this straight worn out line. I then used a bottle of "White Out" to restore the line. White out dries very quickly and after removing the tape, the knobs look perfect for the most part and the white seems to stay put. K2WH |
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Re: S-38C antenna
--- In HallicraftersRadios@..., Bill Gerhold <k2wh@o...>
wrote: For a receiver such as the S-38, almost any long wire, straight orlooped will work fine. I would just put up as muchoverloading, then I would check the receiver AVC circuit Perhaps it is not functioning correctly. Have you checked the tubes?Thanks for the tip. It has all NOS tubes from Antique Electronics Supply that arrived on Saturday! What would be the expected (approximate) range of the AVC voltage measured on the 12SA7 converter tube with a) no antenna and b) a fairly strong local AM station? Am I looking for a range of 1/2 volt or so or several volts difference between conditions a) and b)? I wish I had another similar radio here to compare with mine. Thanks again number of fans, cheerleaders and users of this wonderful equipment whichutilized the technology of vacuum tubes.the early years with military communications radios. On the home front withshortwave receivers, amateur transmitters and home entertainment equipment.Truly an American company.<mailto:HallicraftersRadios-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe>
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Re: S-38C antenna
开云体育I cannot answer that question.? If you don’t already have one, your best bet is to get a service manual for the receiver.? You can get them from various sources such as radioreprints.? Do a google search.? I do not know if you are setup with test equipment but you may want to think about getting some of the basics if you are into restoring? these old radios.? I too get all my tubes from the same company and I have found some of the tubes not up to par.? Don’t assume because they are in a box, they are good.? Unless you tell them to test them prior to delivery, it’s pot luck.? One of the first items I got was an old tube checker of which many are found on Ebay.? It took (3) tries to get the one I needed.? If you order any tubes from any vendors, tell them to check them first.? It costs a little more but it is worth it.? In the meantime, go get the manual if you don’t already have one.? Good luck with it. ? Bill K2WH ? From:
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wrote: > For a receiver such as the S-38, almost any long wire, straight or looped > will work fine.? I would just put up as much > > wire as possible and go from there.? If you are experiencing overloading, > then I would check the receiver AVC circuit > Perhaps it is not functioning correctly.? Have you checked the tubes? > >? > > K2WH > Thanks for the tip. It has all NOS tubes from Antique Electronics Supply that arrived on Saturday!? What would be the expected (approximate) range of the AVC voltage measured on the 12SA7 converter tube with a) no antenna and b) a fairly strong local AM station? Am I looking for a range of 1/2 volt or so or several volts difference between conditions a) and b)?? I wish I had another similar radio here to compare with mine. Thanks again >? > >?? _____? > > From: HallicraftersRadios@... > [mailto:HallicraftersRadios@...] On Behalf Of Tom Zyniecki > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 9:04 AM > To: HallicraftersRadios@... > Subject: [HallicraftersRadios] Re: S-38C antenna > >? > > Hi I use a slinky antenna home made but like the antennas sold on > ebay. Its hanging on a hook on my shop door. I do not think I have > $5 invested. A pece of wire a push on connector to fit the slinky > and some pvc pipe to insulate the ends. >??????????????????? Tom > > > --- In HallicraftersRadios@..., "tuberadioguy" > wrote: > > I'm new to the group and I'm just wondering what kinds of > > antennas (length, electrical arrangement) people have used > > with a Hallicrafters radio such as the S38 type (or similar). > > > > Has anyone used a loop antenna with a model such as the S38? > > > > A previous owner an S38 radio suggested an untuned long wire > antenna, > > but a 40 ft length of wire seemed to cause a lot of overloading > > on mine. > > > > Also, AM is quite noisy (probably local noise) below 800 kHz with > > a long wire. > > > > I'm interested in details like lengths and / or electrical > > arrangements (dipole,sloper, etc.) that have been used. > >?? > > I'd welcome hearing anyone's shortwave and AM listening? > experiences > > with a S38 model. > > > > > > Thanks > >? > > Tuberadioguy > > > > > This site is dedicated to the free and open exchange of ideas, advice, > technical and general information about Hallicrafters transmitters, > receivers, home entertainment equipment, and all other Hallicrafters > products. And more importantly, this site is dedicated to the large number > of fans, cheerleaders and users of this wonderful equipment which utilized > the technology of vacuum tubes. > > Hallicrafters equipment was on the front lines (literally) during the early > years with military communications radios. On the home front with shortwave > receivers, amateur transmitters and home entertainment equipment. Truly an > American company. > > K2WH (Your Moderator) > > > > >?? _____? > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > *????? To visit your group on the web, go to: > >?? > *????? To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HallicraftersRadios-unsubscribe@... > > >?? > *????? Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > <>? Terms of Service. This site is dedicated to the free and open exchange of ideas, advice, technical and general information about Hallicrafters transmitters, receivers, home entertainment equipment, and all other Hallicrafters products. And more importantly, this site is dedicated to the large number of fans, cheerleaders and users of this wonderful equipment which utilized the technology of vacuum tubes. Hallicrafters equipment was on the front lines (literally) during the early years with military communications radios. On the home front with shortwave receivers, amateur transmitters and home entertainment equipment. Truly an American company. K2WH (Your Moderator) |