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Re: 8481A Repair

 

I would have spent the 400-600 dollars for a calibrated 437 and power sensor if I had not got mine much cheaper. The point¡­¡­¡­¡­¡­i thought the same thing, but then realized that this is one of those times when simply paying the piper is the way to go. It is a VERY rare occasion that this is true for me, but here it is almost fact.

Cheers,

David


Re: 8481A Repair

Tom Miller
 

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That is because the repair is very expensive. And hard to find.
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Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 2:23 PM
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] 8481A Repair

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Has anyone had any experience repairing an 8481A power sensor? Functional ones look to be quite expensive but "needs repair" items are much more reasonable.

Dale


8481A Repair

 

Has anyone had any experience repairing an 8481A power sensor? Functional ones look to be quite expensive but "needs repair" items are much more reasonable.

Dale


Re: HP 215A manual

 

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Greetings,

?lists the HP-215A manual with schematics for $12.50.

This will be a very high quality scan. ?I have purchased a number of scans from them with total satisfaction.

Regards,

Ken


On 21Oct, 2015, at 12:55 AM, rbforum@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

Hi Dan and George,


I have a non-working 215A on my desk and besides of lacking enough old oval connector power cords I am in need of a manual.
So if you already have a scanned manual I would be glad to receive a copy of it.
Any help would be appreciated, even schematics only would help.

Thanks and regards,

Rudi



Re: HP 215A manual

 

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Rudi et all

If you dont find a free copy , we have an excellent scanned copy for download at a fair price



Cheers
Dave
ArtekManuals.com

On 10/21/2015 2:55 AM, rbforum@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
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Hi Dan and George,


I have a non-working 215A on my desk and besides of lacking enough old oval connector power cords I am in need of a manual.
So if you already have a scanned manual I would be glad to receive a copy of it.
Any help would be appreciated, even schematics only would help.

Thanks and regards,

Rudi


-- 
Dave
Manuals@...



Re: HP-182C repair

 

HI My hp182c has a High voltage fault , The inverter transformer primary shows very Low resistace and the seconaries are Open circuit it will not oscillate

Can I get a high voltage inverter transformer antwhere ?


Dave? GM3WIL


Re: HP 215A manual

 

Hi Dan and George,

I have a non-working 215A on my desk and besides of lacking enough old oval connector power cords I am in need of a manual.
So if you already have a scanned manual I would be glad to receive a copy of it.
Any help would be appreciated, even schematics only would help.

Thanks and regards,

Rudi


Re: Power button (not switch) for 8970A noise figure meter.

 

Hi Dave,
I'll bring my box of spares down on Saturday. You can pick? colour you like :-).

Robert G8RPI.
P.S. Just remembered I owe you some paperwork, I'll get on it.


Re: 8754D vs 8753ES

 

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Thanks, david. I have found several postings on the differences between the E and ES. Apparently only 2 extra buttons on the front panel and nothing else.? It does seem odd that the ¡°D¡±s look like higher asking prices by a coupla hundred. Could be an anomaly, I haven¡¯t studied it for very long

Thanks

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From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 8:25 AM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] 8754D vs 8753ES

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On 20 October 2015 at 15:36, W2HX w2hx@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

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Other than the LCD display, is the 8753ES any ¡°lesser¡± of a VNA than a similarly outfitted ¡°D¡±? I ask because it seems that many ES¡¯s go for less money than the ¡°D¡±s. is this just a fluke of a lot of supply of the ESs? Any thoughts on this?

Thanks

Eugene W2HX

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Not that I am aware of. The ES has the advantage that there are 4 buttons for switching channels. It also takes later firmware, and I suspect that means it has a later (faster) CPU.

Now I don't know what difference there is between an 8753E and an 8753ES. That might be worth investigating more, but i would certainly not buy a D unless it was a lot cheaper than an E or ES.

Despite the extra bulk, I'd buy one with an external test set, as it gives you a lot more flexibility. Note the 6 GHz option on the D/E/ES are all hardware, so you can't easily upgrade them.

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Dave


Re: 8754D vs 8753ES

Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
 

On 20 October 2015 at 15:36, W2HX w2hx@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:


Other than the LCD display, is the 8753ES any ¡°lesser¡± of a VNA than a similarly outfitted ¡°D¡±? I ask because it seems that many ES¡¯s go for less money than the ¡°D¡±s. is this just a fluke of a lot of supply of the ESs? Any thoughts on this?

Thanks

Eugene W2HX


Not that I am aware of. The ES has the advantage that there are 4 buttons for switching channels. It also takes later firmware, and I suspect that means it has a later (faster) CPU.

Now I don't know what difference there is between an 8753E and an 8753ES. That might be worth investigating more, but i would certainly not buy a D unless it was a lot cheaper than an E or ES.

Despite the extra bulk, I'd buy one with an external test set, as it gives you a lot more flexibility. Note the 6 GHz option on the D/E/ES are all hardware, so you can't easily upgrade them.

Dave


Re: Agilent E2050A ethernet GPIB adapter

 

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I¡¯m currently running two E2050¡¯s here, and they work fine with IO Libs version 16.3.17194.4.?? I¡¯m debating moving to ver. 17, but they have completely changed the UI, and a first look was a disappointment.

These don¡¯t support DHCP like the newer ones, but in a situation like this, I think it¡¯s better to run fixed IP anyway.

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Daun

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Daun E. Yeagley, II, N8ASB

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From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 10:53 AM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Agilent E2050A ethernet GPIB adapter

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On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 3:42 AM, timhughes@...
[hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:
>
> We had a discussion of the newer HP agilent ethernet to GPIB adapters previously.
> Does anybody know if these older (E2050) 10base T ,adapters will work with current Agilent software suite when identifying adapters/equipment on the network etc.
> They were being supported at least in about 2000 or so.
> They are sometimes available quite cheaply on ebay.
> Anybody have any comments on them?
> Tim Hughes

According to the Keysight IO Libraries Suite Unsupported Interface
Support Matrix - Technical Overview the last release to support the
E2050A/B LAN/GPIB Gateway was version M.01.01 released on 2003-04-10
supporting up through Windows XP SP3.

I have an E2050A that I haven't tried using in a while. I forget if I
ever checked whether the E2050A was in fact actually not recognized by
the next available release (version 14.0.7202.1 released on
2004-12-02), or whether version M.01.01 could still be installed on
systems later than Windows XP SP3.


Re: Agilent E2050A ethernet GPIB adapter

 

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 3:42 AM, timhughes@...
[hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

We had a discussion of the newer HP agilent ethernet to GPIB adapters previously.
Does anybody know if these older (E2050) 10base T ,adapters will work with current Agilent software suite when identifying adapters/equipment on the network etc.
They were being supported at least in about 2000 or so.
They are sometimes available quite cheaply on ebay.
Anybody have any comments on them?
Tim Hughes
According to the Keysight IO Libraries Suite Unsupported Interface
Support Matrix - Technical Overview the last release to support the
E2050A/B LAN/GPIB Gateway was version M.01.01 released on 2003-04-10
supporting up through Windows XP SP3.

I have an E2050A that I haven't tried using in a while. I forget if I
ever checked whether the E2050A was in fact actually not recognized by
the next available release (version 14.0.7202.1 released on
2004-12-02), or whether version M.01.01 could still be installed on
systems later than Windows XP SP3.


8754D vs 8753ES

 

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Other than the LCD display, is the 8753ES any ¡°lesser¡± of a VNA than a similarly outfitted ¡°D¡±? I ask because it seems that many ES¡¯s go for less money than the ¡°D¡±s. is this just a fluke of a lot of supply of the ESs? Any thoughts on this?

Thanks

Eugene W2HX

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Power button (not switch) for 8970A noise figure meter.

Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
 

I've got a 8970A, but the power button is missing - the switch is there. I'm not quite sure how it can fall out, but it seems to have done. Does anyone have one of these spare?



Looking on eBay at some 8970As, the colour should be a lightish cream, the same as the numbers on the numeric keypad, but I am not too bothered about that. Just hopefully something that will not look out of place.



Dave


Agilent E2050A ethernet GPIB adapter

 

We had a discussion of the newer HP agilent ethernet to GPIB adapters previously.
Does anybody know if these older (E2050)? 10base T ,adapters will work with current Agilent software suite when identifying adapters/equipment on the network etc.
They were being supported at least in about 2000 or so.
They are sometimes available quite cheaply on ebay.
Anybody have any comments on them?
Tim Hughes


Re: HP 83592B hangs 8350B sweeper

 

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I Tee¡¯d the video and set very narrow span and now I see pulses. The A8R55 RTC COMP moves pairs together but does not change the shape.

Some pulses are on the flat part of the sweep waveform and some are on the slopes.

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From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: October-18-15 3:01 PM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 83592B hangs 8350B sweeper

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I got as far as step 5-5, YO retrace compensation.

I am using an HP 8566A Spectrum Analyzer but cannot see the signal shown.

I assume the top trace is the chan B input sweep from the 8350B, I see that and can delay along it.

The bottom trace would be the video from the 8566A but which video. There is one jumpered at the back but if disconnected there is no display on the 8566A. The other is the plotter video and I doubt it is this one, it does nothing anyway. I suppose it does not matter that I disconnect the jumper, however I see nothing on the ¡®scope but a straight line. I get that I am looking for the 7 GHz switch point that shows up at 3.5 GHz because the Aux is half freq. What should the span be?

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From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: October-18-15 5:42 AM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 83592B hangs 8350B sweeper

?Hi Peter, I have done this calibration several ?time , I think ?the A vs B is the X-Y display on the scope , I was using the HP 1740A oscilloscope to do this. The intensity must set to the high position because it is difficult to see the crest of the ramp to 0V.

Regards

ON1EV

Belgium


Re: HP 83592B hangs 8350B sweeper

 

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I got as far as step 5-5, YO retrace compensation.

I am using an HP 8566A Spectrum Analyzer but cannot see the signal shown.

I assume the top trace is the chan B input sweep from the 8350B, I see that and can delay along it.

The bottom trace would be the video from the 8566A but which video. There is one jumpered at the back but if disconnected there is no display on the 8566A. The other is the plotter video and I doubt it is this one, it does nothing anyway. I suppose it does not matter that I disconnect the jumper, however I see nothing on the ¡®scope but a straight line. I get that I am looking for the 7 GHz switch point that shows up at 3.5 GHz because the Aux is half freq. What should the span be?

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From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: October-18-15 5:42 AM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 83592B hangs 8350B sweeper

?Hi Peter, I have done this calibration several ?time , I think ?the A vs B is the X-Y display on the scope , I was using the HP 1740A oscilloscope to do this. The intensity must set to the high position because it is difficult to see the crest of the ramp to 0V.

Regards

ON1EV

Belgium


Re: HP 83592B hangs 8350B sweeper

 

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Thank you, and the others that responded.

Yes that worked and the TP8 signal appeared as shown. R37 must alter BND SW and somehow change what is sent from the BandSw DAC or the TV buffer.

I don¡¯t understand but it does adjust as described. I counted the number of turns and noted them just in case.

Peter.

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From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: October-18-15 5:42 AM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 83592B hangs 8350B sweeper

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?

Hi Peter, I have done this calibration several ?time , I think ?the A vs B is the X-Y display on the scope , I was using the HP 1740A oscilloscope to do this. The intensity must set to the high position because it is difficult to see the crest of the ramp to 0V.

Regards

ON1EV

Belgium

De?: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦?: dimanche 18 octobre 2015 01:48
??: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Objet?: RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 83592B hangs 8350B sweeper

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?

Has anyone done a calibration on one of these plug-ins?

Step 20 in adjustments: What does A vs B mode on an oscilloscope mean? I think HP means trigger on B and look at A ??(A + B or A ¨C B will not work. The waveforms are completely different time/div and shapes)

A6-TP8 does not have positive sweeps as shown. They go negative from 0 to -10v.

Step 22: A6R37 will not affect TP8 an far as I can see.

Am I missing something?

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From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: October-17-15 5:54 PM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 83592B hangs 8350B sweeper

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GREAT PROGRESS!

Thanks Steve, you are quite correct. My A7 board is marked 83595 and works in this 83592 plug-in.

However I suspected that the A6 board that was causing all the trouble was actually from an 83595 not an 83592. I removed the 4L and 4H pots, installed the R63 pot, moved the Band jumper, ?and concentrated on the Sweep Control and Bandswitch circuits.

The A3 SW1 forces the signals to go through the variable gain amplifier for troubleshooting. Using this setting I could sweep band 0 but was finding that the TP7 signal was going positive by 2.4 volts. It should start at 0v and go negative to -10v max. There was an offset in the variable gain amplifier! I had also noticed that the gain seemed high. The schematics showed the gain resistors to be the same as the ones on the bad A6 board but they were different from the ones on the good A6 board. The parts list agreed with the resistors on the good A6 board so I assumed them to be correct. This was not the first error on the schematics I had found.

Troubleshooting: Set sweep from 1 MHz to 1.1 MHz so TP5 is essentially at 0v. Check TP1 (BandSw DAC O/P) is 1.195v on good A6 and 1.194 on bad A6. So far so good. Check U5-6 is -10.05v on good A6 but is? -12.73v on bad board. TP7 is 0v on the good A6 but is +2.4v on the bad board. Conclusion: the gain is too high and is tripping U14 in the Bandswitch Comparator.

Change all 4 gain resistors:

R29???????? B0?????????? was 109.73k??????? change to 82.541k (TP7 is now 0v with the above test)

R27???????? B1?????????? was 57.014k??????? change to 42.884k

R25???????? B2?????????? was 40.423k??????? change to 30.423k

R23???????? B3????????? was 40.423k??????? change to 30.423k

Now the plug-in sweeps from 0.01 to 20 GHz and the INSTR PRESET no longer hangs the 8350B.

Conclusion: The A6 board was from an HP 83595. I can now proceed with the calibration bu expect some problems because the resistors I used were 1%, not 0.1%, and are not the exact values. I may not have enough range of adjustment. I may also run into problems in the SRD and PIN diode bias circuits because of component values.

Some of the analog switches are normally closed (PMI SW06) but are shown open on the schematic. U2A pins 1 & 2 are switched, U2A-2 goes to U13-11.

Peter.

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From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: October-16-15 12:10 PM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 83592B hangs 8350B sweeper

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?

Peter,

?

I have an 83594A and an 83595A wth boards that have mismatched part numbers so it may not have been anything nefarious but if so its contagious! There are a couple of boards that don't match any of the manuals I've been able to find, and there are switches that open parts of loops, and pots for adjustments, and none are mentioned in any manual. The "joys" of working on older gear!

Steve

WB0DBS

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On Oct 16, 2015, at 10:47 AM, 'Peter' bunge@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

?

Has anyone noticed that boards in HP 8350 plug-ins have part numbers different from the plug-in model?

My 83592 has two boards, A6 and A7, that have part numbers starting with 83595-x. The others start 83592-x.

?

I know that replacing the A6 board (83595-60106) with a good one (83592-60106) gets the plug-in working, even with the 83595-x A7 board.

?

On the bad A6 board I have found that a pot (R63, SRD bias) was missing and the Band 0 jumper was in the B1 position. The board also has two extra pots which are not shown on the schematic or component location. There are seven single turn pots on the top left, viewed from component side. They are shown in the 83595 manual. Did someone try to get it running with the board from a 83595 (0.01 to 26.5 GHz) plug-in?

I need to look carefully at every component. The 60106 in the number is the same (83592-60106) and the boards look identical but I¡¯m sure there are component differences as I have found. I do not believe that this is the original board for the plug-in.

?

I have seen instruments put together with odd parts before. I have an HP8656A chassis that is part 8656A and part 8657A inside. I gave up troubleshooting when I discovered this. This is a very dishonest practice to do this and sell the items as-is, for parts, etc.

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FS: Parts from an 8515A 26.5 GHz S-parameter test set (used on 8510 VNAs)

Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
 

Over the next few weeks I will be stripping down an 8515A S-parameter test set. I will not be selling the bridges, but anything else might be up for grabs.

If you have any damaged or missing parts, send me a photo, part number and offer. Send it off-list.

Dave


Re: HP 83592B hangs 8350B sweeper

 

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Hi Peter, I have done this calibration several ?time , I think ?the A vs B is the X-Y display on the scope , I was using the HP 1740A oscilloscope to do this. The intensity must set to the high position because it is difficult to see the crest of the ramp to 0V.

Regards

ON1EV

Belgium

De?: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦?: dimanche 18 octobre 2015 01:48
??: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Objet?: RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 83592B hangs 8350B sweeper

?

?

Has anyone done a calibration on one of these plug-ins?

Step 20 in adjustments: What does A vs B mode on an oscilloscope mean? I think HP means trigger on B and look at A ??(A + B or A ¨C B will not work. The waveforms are completely different time/div and shapes)

A6-TP8 does not have positive sweeps as shown. They go negative from 0 to -10v.

Step 22: A6R37 will not affect TP8 an far as I can see.

Am I missing something?

?

From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: October-17-15 5:54 PM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 83592B hangs 8350B sweeper

?

?

GREAT PROGRESS!

Thanks Steve, you are quite correct. My A7 board is marked 83595 and works in this 83592 plug-in.

However I suspected that the A6 board that was causing all the trouble was actually from an 83595 not an 83592. I removed the 4L and 4H pots, installed the R63 pot, moved the Band jumper, ?and concentrated on the Sweep Control and Bandswitch circuits.

The A3 SW1 forces the signals to go through the variable gain amplifier for troubleshooting. Using this setting I could sweep band 0 but was finding that the TP7 signal was going positive by 2.4 volts. It should start at 0v and go negative to -10v max. There was an offset in the variable gain amplifier! I had also noticed that the gain seemed high. The schematics showed the gain resistors to be the same as the ones on the bad A6 board but they were different from the ones on the good A6 board. The parts list agreed with the resistors on the good A6 board so I assumed them to be correct. This was not the first error on the schematics I had found.

Troubleshooting: Set sweep from 1 MHz to 1.1 MHz so TP5 is essentially at 0v. Check TP1 (BandSw DAC O/P) is 1.195v on good A6 and 1.194 on bad A6. So far so good. Check U5-6 is -10.05v on good A6 but is? -12.73v on bad board. TP7 is 0v on the good A6 but is +2.4v on the bad board. Conclusion: the gain is too high and is tripping U14 in the Bandswitch Comparator.

Change all 4 gain resistors:

R29???????? B0?????????? was 109.73k??????? change to 82.541k (TP7 is now 0v with the above test)

R27???????? B1?????????? was 57.014k??????? change to 42.884k

R25???????? B2?????????? was 40.423k??????? change to 30.423k

R23???????? B3????????? was 40.423k??????? change to 30.423k

Now the plug-in sweeps from 0.01 to 20 GHz and the INSTR PRESET no longer hangs the 8350B.

Conclusion: The A6 board was from an HP 83595. I can now proceed with the calibration bu expect some problems because the resistors I used were 1%, not 0.1%, and are not the exact values. I may not have enough range of adjustment. I may also run into problems in the SRD and PIN diode bias circuits because of component values.

Some of the analog switches are normally closed (PMI SW06) but are shown open on the schematic. U2A pins 1 & 2 are switched, U2A-2 goes to U13-11.

Peter.

?

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From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: October-16-15 12:10 PM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 83592B hangs 8350B sweeper

?

?

Peter,

?

I have an 83594A and an 83595A wth boards that have mismatched part numbers so it may not have been anything nefarious but if so its contagious! There are a couple of boards that don't match any of the manuals I've been able to find, and there are switches that open parts of loops, and pots for adjustments, and none are mentioned in any manual. The "joys" of working on older gear!

Steve

WB0DBS

?

?


On Oct 16, 2015, at 10:47 AM, 'Peter' bunge@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

?

Has anyone noticed that boards in HP 8350 plug-ins have part numbers different from the plug-in model?

My 83592 has two boards, A6 and A7, that have part numbers starting with 83595-x. The others start 83592-x.

?

I know that replacing the A6 board (83595-60106) with a good one (83592-60106) gets the plug-in working, even with the 83595-x A7 board.

?

On the bad A6 board I have found that a pot (R63, SRD bias) was missing and the Band 0 jumper was in the B1 position. The board also has two extra pots which are not shown on the schematic or component location. There are seven single turn pots on the top left, viewed from component side. They are shown in the 83595 manual. Did someone try to get it running with the board from a 83595 (0.01 to 26.5 GHz) plug-in?

I need to look carefully at every component. The 60106 in the number is the same (83592-60106) and the boards look identical but I¡¯m sure there are component differences as I have found. I do not believe that this is the original board for the plug-in.

?

I have seen instruments put together with odd parts before. I have an HP8656A chassis that is part 8656A and part 8657A inside. I gave up troubleshooting when I discovered this. This is a very dishonest practice to do this and sell the items as-is, for parts, etc.

?

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