Machinable Potting Material ???
Greetings, I'm trying to save a couple old plastic knobs that have stripped set screw threads, that don't have brass inserts.? I remember reading someplace about a machinable potting material that is easily flowed into a mold.? I've tried JB Weld, but it doesn't flow well.? It has a tendency to leave void areas.? I want to drill a new set screw hole and hand tap it for 4-40 set screw.? I remember seeing some discussion on potting material on one of the groups I read, so I'm asking for help.? Any advice will be appreciated.? I will also post this to some of the other groups I read. TNX? es? 73? de? WABAG? .. Paul K.
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Re: Test and Measurement catalogue
Hello,
just responded offlist.
Tam
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On 18.08.2018 12:14, Nigel Adams nigel.adams@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote: Win 7... So stone age!!! Regards
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Tam Hanna tamhan@... [hp_agilent_equipment]" Date:17/08/2018 21:00 (GMT+00:00) To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Subject: RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] Test and Measurement catalogue
Hello, which Version? I have a Windows 10 box on hand...
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Am 17. August 2018 11:30:11 MESZ schrieb "Nigel Adams nigel.adams@... [hp_agilent_equipment]" <hp_agilent_equipment@...>:
Sorry, its Windoze.
I can get the files from the CD onto the PC but then???
Regards
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*From:*hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...] *Sent:* 16 August 2018 23:57 *To:* hp_agilent_equipment@... *Subject:* Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Test and Measurement catalogue
Nigel,
what OS are you on? If you are on Ubuntu, maybe we should make a conference call and I guide you through the steps.
Tam
On 16.08.2018 16:58, Nigel Adams nigel.adams@... <mailto:nigel.adams@...> [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Hi Tam,
I have Filezilla which can do FTP and if you would like to specify how to grab the ISO???s I will willingly put the files onto somewhere.
I suspect the CD???s images in total will be less than 2GB.
Paul Bicknell has requested the CD???s so I may eventually pass the originals to him.
I have enough material for Marconi Instruments information to fill up my space than have to store HP data as well (which I love by the way).
Regards
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*Nigel *
*From:*hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...> [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...] *Sent:* 16 August 2018 14:44 *To:* hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...> *Subject:* Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Test and Measurement catalogue
Nigel,
do you have an FTP client and know how to pull an ISO image?
I pay my ISP so much money that I will GLADLY let you use a few GB of storage.
Tam
With best regards
Tam Hanna
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On 16.08.2018 15:10, Nigel Adams nigel.adams@... <mailto:nigel.adams@...> [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Hi Paul,
Problem is the size ??? mail limit is approx. 10-12MB here so never going to be
able to put a CD sized amount of info in a mail.
Regards
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*From:*hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...> [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...] *Sent:* 16 August 2018 13:55 *To:* hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...> *Subject:* RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] Test and Measurement catalogue
Hi Nigel
I would dearly like access to them but I think a lot of others would also like them also
So putting them on the group seams the best solution but if you have time I would be gratefully if you could send them to me as attachments
Regards Paul B??? UK
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*From:*hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...> [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...] *Sent:* 16 August 2018 13:30 *To:* hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...> *Subject:* RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] Test and Measurement catalogue
Hi Paul,
I???m actually happy to pass them on to someone else???s collection if necessary ??? I don???t really need them.
But can hang on until the group is sorted out if required.
Regards
*Nigel *
*From:*hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...> [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...] *Sent:* 15 August 2018 18:41 *To:* hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...> *Subject:* RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] Test and Measurement catalogue
Hi could I ask you to hold on for a bit as we might be moving to IO
But could you put both onto the groups file section
Also could you send them to me one at a time so as not to overload my internet to
paul@... <mailto:paul@...>
Regards Paul B
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*From:*hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...> [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...] *Sent:* 15 August 2018 12:48 *To:* hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...> *Subject:* RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] Test and Measurement catalogue
Hi Paul,
Had a look and I found a HP catlog CD from 1999 and an Agilent one from 2001.
Regards
*Nigel *
*From:*hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...> [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...] *Sent:* 15 August 2018 09:50 *To:* hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...> *Subject:* RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] Test and Measurement catalogue
Hi Nigel
You are correct about catalogues being on CD??? I think they started that about 2000 but I do not have any
Perhaps we should get them onto the group
Regards Paul
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*From:*hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...> [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...] *Sent:* 14 August 2018 15:58 *To:* hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...> *Subject:* RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] Test and Measurement catalogue
Didn???t they go to a CD based catalog after that????
I???m sure I have one of those ??? somewhere!!???
*Nigel *
*From:*hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...> [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...] *Sent:* 14 August 2018 11:30 *To:* hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...> *Subject:* RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] Test and Measurement catalogue
Hi Dale??? thank you for your input
Regards Paul B
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At 04:47 AM 8/13/2018, Paul Bicknell'wrote:
>Also since Year 2000 I only have the following > >Year 2000 2003/04 2008/09 2011/12
There was a 2001 catalog and none that I have seen in 2002. For 2005 I have seen only a system and bench equipment catalog, and for 2006/2007 I have seen only an RF and microwave test accessories catalog. I have made no effort to collect catalogs from this century as I am an HP collector and not an Agilent or Keysight collector.
Dale H. Cook, GR/HP/Tek Collector, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
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Re: Mod thunderbird to avoid dupes (Re: Re: Too many Messages!!)
On 08/17/2018 06:26 PM, Artek Manuals manuals@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote: Yes I have an edit pull down menu . No Options or preferences listed as a choice there anymore in the WIN version
Nowhere ( so far in the windows 60 version ) under EDIT,??? or the hamburger Icon does the word preferences appear.??? There is an OPTION choice under TOOLS but no choices under <TOOLS><OPTIONS> that I see for filtering dupes
Without getting into a windows vs Linux debate the two versions are clearly different . Thank you Chuck & Dave for attempting to assist although apparently the Linux version has at least one feature ( not surprisingly) that differs from the WINDOWS version
The multi message problem seems to have gone away today...even if it hadn't it has taken me less time to hit the <DEL> key than searching for Alice in this "PREFERENCES" rabbit hole :-P
-DC manuals@... You can also get an add-on called "about:config Buttons". I added that to T-Bird a while back. Mark
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FWIW its??? dead simple. Thunderbird (52.9.1) =
???Tools - Options - General(tab) - Config Editor button on 3rd pane down (Advanced Configuration)
then type/scroll to what you want. Typing 'dup' gets you there quick!
Adrian
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On 8/18/2018 10:14 AM, Artek Manuals manuals@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote: Kuba There is no "address bar" in Thunderbird (at least not that I see) . You might be confusing this with Firefox where in indeed ABOUT:CONFIG indeed takes you to the "labyrinth of customization" -DC manuals@...
On 8/18/2018 4:50 AM, 'Ober, Jan J.' ober.14@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Can???t you go straight to about:config just by typing it in the address bar? Or is the preference change needed to enable editing? ??? Cheers, Kuba
17 aug. 2018 kl. 15:33 skrev Chuck Harris cfharris@... <mailto:cfharris@...> [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...>>:
1) Click on the three bar thingy off on the right that says "Display the Thunderbird Menu" when you hover over it. 2) From the menu, click on "Preferences" 3) From the preferences screen click on "Advanced" 4) On the advanced screen click on "Config Editor" It will say some malarky about voiding your warranty, click on I accept the risk, and it will open a window About:config 5) In the search bar at the top of about:config, type: "mail.server.default.dup_action"
Right click on that entry, and select modify from the menu.
Modify it, and do the usual close save stuff.
-Chuck Harris
Gedas w8bya@... <mailto:w8bya@...> [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Hi there can you tell me where specifically in Thunderbird this setting is? I have
spent 15 min looking under my "tools/options" & acct settings etc and keep over
looking it. TU
mail.server.default.dup_action
Gedas, W8BYA
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On 8/17/2018 3:17 AM, Christoph Kopetzky ck@... <mailto:ck@...> [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
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Win 7...
So stone age!!!
Regards
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Date:17/08/2018 21:00 (GMT+00:00)
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] Test and Measurement catalogue
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Hello,
which Version? I have a Windows 10 box on hand...
Tam
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Am 17. August 2018 11:30:11 MESZ schrieb "Nigel Adams nigel.adams@... [hp_agilent_equipment]" :
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Sorry, its Windoze.
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I can get the files from the CD onto the PC but then¡
Regards
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Sent: 16 August 2018 23:57
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Test and Measurement catalogue
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Nigel,
what OS are you on? If you are on Ubuntu, maybe we should make a conference call and I guide you through the steps.
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Tam
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nigel.adams@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
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Hi Tam,
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I have Filezilla which can do FTP and if you would like to specify how to grab the ISO¡¯s I will willingly put the files onto somewhere.
I suspect the CD¡¯s images in total will be less than 2GB.
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Paul Bicknell has requested the CD¡¯s so I may eventually pass the originals to him.
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I have enough material for Marconi Instruments information to fill up my space than have to store HP data as well (which I love by the way).
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Regards
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Nigel,
do you have an FTP client and know how to pull an ISO image?
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I pay my ISP so much money that I will GLADLY let you use a few GB of storage.
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Tam
With best regards
Tam Hanna
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Hi Paul,
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Problem is the size ¨C mail limit is approx. 10-12MB here so never going to be
able to put a CD sized amount of info in a mail.
Regards
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Hi Nigel
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I would dearly like access to them but I think a lot of others would also like them also
So putting them on the group seams the best solution but if you have time I would be gratefully if you could send them to me as attachments
Regards Paul B? UK
Hi Paul,
I¡¯m actually happy to pass them on to someone else¡¯s collection if necessary ¨C I don¡¯t really need them.
But can hang on until the group is sorted out if required.
Regards
Hi could I ask you to hold on for a bit as we might be moving to IO
But could you put both onto the groups file section
Also could you send them to me one at a time so as not to overload my internet to
paul@...
Regards Paul B
Hi Paul,
Had a look and I found a HP catlog CD from 1999 and an Agilent one from 2001.
Regards
Hi Nigel
You are correct about catalogues being on CD? I think they started that about 2000 but I do not have any
Perhaps we should get them onto the group
Regards Paul
Didn¡¯t they go to a CD based catalog after that¡?
I¡¯m sure I have one of those ¡® somewhere!!¡¯
Hi Dale? thank you for your input
Regards Paul B
At 04:47 AM 8/13/2018, Paul Bicknell'wrote:
>Also since Year 2000 I only have the following
>
>Year 2000 2003/04 2008/09 2011/12
There was a 2001 catalog and none that I have seen in 2002. For 2005 I have seen only a system and bench equipment catalog, and for 2006/2007 I have seen only an RF and microwave test accessories catalog. I have made no effort to collect catalogs from this
century as I am an HP collector and not an Agilent or Keysight collector.
Dale H. Cook, GR/HP/Tek Collector, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
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Kuba There is no "address bar" in Thunderbird (at least not that I see) . You might be confusing this with Firefox where in indeed ABOUT:CONFIG indeed takes you to the "labyrinth of customization" -DC manuals@...
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On 8/18/2018 4:50 AM, 'Ober, Jan J.' ober.14@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote: Can???t you go straight to about:config just by typing it in the address bar? Or is the preference change needed to enable editing? ??? Cheers, Kuba
17 aug. 2018 kl. 15:33 skrev Chuck Harris cfharris@... <mailto:cfharris@...> [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...>>:
1) Click on the three bar thingy off on the right that says "Display the Thunderbird Menu" when you hover over it. 2) From the menu, click on "Preferences" 3) From the preferences screen click on "Advanced" 4) On the advanced screen click on "Config Editor" It will say some malarky about voiding your warranty, click on I accept the risk, and it will open a window About:config 5) In the search bar at the top of about:config, type: "mail.server.default.dup_action"
Right click on that entry, and select modify from the menu.
Modify it, and do the usual close save stuff.
-Chuck Harris
Gedas w8bya@... <mailto:w8bya@...> [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Hi there can you tell me where specifically in Thunderbird this setting is? I have
spent 15 min looking under my "tools/options" & acct settings etc and keep over
looking it. TU
mail.server.default.dup_action
Gedas, W8BYA
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On 8/17/2018 3:17 AM, Christoph Kopetzky ck@... <mailto:ck@...> [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
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Re: How the transition from Yahoo to groups.io will take place - exactly when I don't know
The general approach to this today would be to get access to an IP pool via VPN services and shoot requests from a couple hundred IPs instead of just one. Some functional analogue of it must be what
does, they¡¯d never finish it otherwise. ¡ª Cheers, Kuba
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Just a side note,
Back when I, and others, were slurping Yahoo groups for archival
reasons, Yahoo network administrators observed the change in their
traffic, figured out what was going on, and implemented countermeasures.
Slurping, is, after all, against the terms of service.
What they did is set up filters, probably snort, that measured timing
of requests for messages from individual IP's. Initially, if the
requests were too fast for a human to have done, they put the IP into
a timeout jail, and it would 404. So, we slowed down our requests,
after all, patience is a virtue. Well, then they noticed that our
requests came like clockwork every second.... So, into the timeout jail
for requests for messages that came every second. So, the scripts were
changed to allow the user to insert a random repeat rate... And, Yahoo
decided if multiple requests from the same IP came at the same interval,
into the timeout jail for you! In the final version of the script, the
requests were made with random spacing, so yahoo decided that people
that sat at their terminals 24/7 were bots, and into the timeout jail.
So, next comes breaking up the requests into 2 or 3 hour sessions....
I lost interest...
Yahoo doesn't want you to slurp *their* data. It is against their terms
of service, and they are actively working to prevent it. More actively
than they are working to maintain reliable service, it would seem.
One possible explanation for why may take a little longer to
slurp the group then they once did.
I, however, wonder when Yahoo is going to change their strategy from
using snort to block bots, to using the DMCA, or other legal means?
-Chuck Harris
'Dr. David Kirkby' drkirkby@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
> Lots of people have been moaning about the Yahoo group, and as some of you
> know, I am going to make the transfer, having been given the permissions
> from the owner of this group. (I'm now an owner too). I thought I'd post
> here how the process will take place, so nobody is in any doubt.
>
> The HP/Agilent/Keysight forum
>
> /g/HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment
>
> has been set up, with the following email addresses.
> Group Email Addresses
>
> - Post: [email protected]
> - Subscribe:
[email protected]
> - Unsubscribe:
[email protected]
> - Group Owner: [email protected]
> - Help: [email protected]
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Re: Bit of the ordinary: command ref for old GC
Dump the ROMs/EPROMs, upload somewhere, let me know and I can disassemble it and pull out the commands and their arguments ¡ª I hope.
Cheers, Kuba Ober?
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Here's something a little out of the ordinary for this group.
I'm trying to track down any information on the serial and/or gpib
commands for a late 80's HP 5980a gas chromatograph. Normally, there
would be an associated programming manual or the codes would be listed
in the reference manual. Not this time.
Through much wailing and gnashing of keyboards I have managed to track
down a list of 2 letter serial commands from a NI website and through
the wayback machine a description of an open source python program
from called 5890 Remote Panel. Unfortunately the
program itself was not archived and the site seems to be offline now.
I did find some text describing the general format of the commands on
that site in the wayback machine.
The site also had a reference to the HP/Agilent document 19242-90120
which describes a GPIB/RS232 interface card for the instrument (and
presumably the command set). That document does not seem to exist on
the Agilent site or anywhere, really.
Bonus if anyone knows what the HPIL command codes look like
or even if they are the same as the serial commands.
The instrument I have has the HPIL interface right now.
I really do not want to pay more for a GPIB/RS232 board
than I paid for the instrument though, so we'll see what
I end up with.
There is a usb/HPIL translator floating around although
it's PIC based.
Given the cost of HPIL cables, or even the parts if you want to make up
your own, the serial route may be best.
There are a couple of purported drivers for the 5890, but no
source that could be used to extract the command set that I can find.
I probably have enough hints to make some progress, but if
anyone has any info or pointers I'd much appreciate it
The ultimate goal here is to cobble together a gc-ms for
drinking water analysis for the rural area that I live.
I was looking for a full instrument set, but I stumbled
across this gc at my local university surplus store and
it looked in really nice condition, which is a rarity
and, even better, it was cheap.
Still looking for the mass-spec part.
thanks
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Paul Amaranth, GCIH | Rochester MI, USA
Aurora Group, Inc. | Security, Systems & Software
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How did I forget about that!
It also works in SeaMonkey, the predecessor to Thunderbird, which I use for reasons that may no longer be valid :) Fortunately I can swap to-and-fro between them, should I feel the need :)
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On 18/08/18 09:50, 'Ober, Jan J.' ober.14@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote: Can¡¯t you go straight to about:config just by typing it in the address bar? Or is the preference change needed to enable editing? ¡ª Cheers, Kuba
17 aug. 2018 kl. 15:33 skrev Chuck Harris cfharris@... <mailto:cfharris@...> [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...>>:
1) Click on the three bar thingy off on the right that says "Display the Thunderbird Menu" when you hover over it. 2) From the menu, click on "Preferences" 3) From the preferences screen click on "Advanced" 4) On the advanced screen click on "Config Editor" It will say some malarky about voiding your warranty, click on I accept the risk, and it will open a window About:config 5) In the search bar at the top of about:config, type: "mail.server.default.dup_action"
Right click on that entry, and select modify from the menu.
Modify it, and do the usual close save stuff.
-Chuck Harris
Gedas w8bya@... <mailto:w8bya@...> [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Hi there can you tell me where specifically in Thunderbird this setting is? I have
spent 15 min looking under my "tools/options" & acct settings etc and keep over looking it. TU
mail.server.default.dup_action
Gedas, W8BYA
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1) Click on the three bar thingy off on the right that says
"Display the Thunderbird Menu" when you hover over it.
2) From the menu, click on "Preferences"
3) From the preferences screen click on "Advanced"
4) On the advanced screen click on "Config Editor"
It will say some malarky about voiding your warranty, click on
I accept the risk, and it will open a window About:config
5) In the search bar at the top of about:config, type:
"mail.server.default.dup_action"
Right click on that entry, and select modify from the menu.
Modify it, and do the usual close save stuff.
-Chuck Harris
Gedas w8bya@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
> Hi there can you tell me where specifically in Thunderbird this setting is? I have
> spent 15 min looking under my "tools/options" & acct settings etc and keep over
> looking it. TU
>
> mail.server.default.dup_action
>
> Gedas, W8BYA
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> Gallery at
> Light travels faster than sound....
> This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
>
> On 8/17/2018 3:17 AM, Christoph Kopetzky ck@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
>>
>
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BTW, some time today, while I was playing with Thunderbird, the ikons in the function bar changed! I did not get a notification that it was updating itself. I wonder if anyone else had this happen. I'm asking here because there seem to be a lot of Thunderbird users here and also a lot of computer literate people.
-- Richard Knoppow dickburk@... WB6KBL
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I tried to find a tutorial that explained the function of each line in detail but could not. I think such a thing probably exists but did not show up on a casual Google search. Firefox also has a very extensive set of configurations. I have changed things a couple of times but mostly leave them alone.
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On 8/17/2018 6:03 PM, Artek Manuals manuals@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote: Richard I finally found it once I knew I was supposed to modifying a single line in the configuration editor.??? But unless you know what your looking for that can be a bit daunting as there are??? over 3000 "configuration" settings ( well I quit counting a 2500 ) in the configuration editor !!! Dont get me wrong I love Thunderbird but getting into the nitty gritty is a walk in the jungle in the dark Dave NR1DX manuals@...
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Re: Mod thunderbird to avoid dupes (Re: Re: Too many Messages!!)
During the "storm" I was getting duplicates over on the General Radio group as well though not as many mostly because the activity on that group is MUCH lower
Dave
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On 8/17/2018 9:08 PM, jws-gmail yahoogroup1954@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
On 8/17/2018 5:53 PM, Artek Manuals manuals@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Chris that is a function of your ISP NOT your email client
These were not duplicated emails.? There are several internal tags which are unique to every message,? X-UIDL for instance which is from the sending end.? So you have a bit of? a chore trying to filter these duplicates.? Unless you look @ some of the yahoo groups meta tags, which are duplicated, there is enough that the duplicate scanners I have on Thunderbird find them to all be unique.
The storm of duplicates seems to have abated, or I'd not send this.
Also FWIW, I sent a reply during the storm of 3 to 8 duplicates, via the web interface.? Only a single copy showed up.? I am thinking that the problem was when one did replies to email postings, which goes to the hp_agilent_equipment address was failing, internal to yahoo.
I saw this occurring on the PBY group, by the way, but it is a very low volume group, so no real problems for them in numbers of junk.
thanks Jim
On 8/17/2018 8:22 PM, N9LLO@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
My 25 year old aol email address gets no duplicates an little spam Chris
On Aug 17, 2018, at 8:14 PM, Artek Manuals manuals@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:
* Turns out there are other choices for this setting besides "0"
and "1"
* 0 - this is the default value. It retrieves duplicate mails like normal mails. * 1 - if you set the value to 1 duplicate mails will be deleted automatically once retrieved * 2 - if you set the value to 2 duplicated mails will be moved right into the trash * 3 - the value 3 finally marks duplicate mails as read
If you want to delete duplicate mails automatically in Thunderbird you
set the value 1.
On 8/17/2018 6:50 PM, Roger Rehr W3SZ w3sz@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
For Windows 10 with Thunderbird 52.9.1:
Hamburger >> Options >>? Options >> Config Editor >> ""I accept the risk" >>
See:
Then, as Chuck said,
scroll to mail.server.default.dup_action
right click
Select modify
Change 0 to 1
Click "OK"
etc.
In my experience, common practice is that "Click" is assumed to mean "Left Click" unless preceded by "Right".
73,
Roger W3SZ
On 8/17/2018 6:26 PM, Artek Manuals manuals@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Yes I have an edit pull down menu . No Options or preferences
listed as
a choice there anymore in the WIN version
Nowhere ( so far in the windows 60 version ) under EDIT,? or the hamburger Icon does the word preferences appear.? There is an
OPTION
choice under TOOLS but no choices under <TOOLS><OPTIONS> that I
see for
filtering dupes
Without getting into a windows vs Linux debate the two versions are clearly different . Thank you Chuck & Dave for attempting to assist although apparently the Linux version has at least one feature
( not
surprisingly) that differs from the WINDOWS version
The multi message problem seems to have gone away today....even
if it
hadn't it has taken me less time to hit the <DEL> key than
searching for
Alice in this "PREFERENCES" rabbit hole :-P
-DC manuals@...
On 8/17/2018 6:05 PM, Dave McGuire Mcguire@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
"Preferences" has been there since v1.0, fifteen years ago.
It's got
to be there somewhere. Do you have an "Edit" pull-down menu?
-Dave
On 08/17/2018 05:57 PM, Artek Manuals [email protected] [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Ahhhhhhh
Running Version 60.0 here under WIN10
Still no "preferences"
On 8/17/2018 5:15 PM, Dave McGuire Mcguire@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
v52.9.1, 64-bit build, Linux.
-Dave
On 08/17/2018 05:12 PM, `Richard Knoppow dickburk@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Which version do you have?
On 8/17/2018 2:05 PM, Dave McGuire Mcguire@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
In my installation, the "Preferences" choice is near the
bottom of the
"Edit" pull-down menu.
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There is a Thunderbird plugin, Remove Duplicate Messages by Thorsten W. Schmidt (mine is at version 0.1.14) which will kill true duplicates.??? As I said in another message, the meta tags are all different between the posts here that appear to be duplicates from subject, time, author, etc. So the plugin correctly doesn't recognize they are dupes. There are many which are truly duplicated, but not as many as you'd think. thanks Jim On 8/17/2018 6:03 PM, Artek Manuals manuals@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote: Richard
I finally found it once I knew I was supposed to modifying a single line in the configuration editor.??? But unless you know what your looking for that can be a bit daunting as there are??? over 3000 "configuration" settings ( well I quit counting a 2500 ) in the configuration editor !!!
Dont get me wrong I love Thunderbird but getting into the nitty gritty is a walk in the jungle in the dark
Dave NR1DX manuals@... <snip>
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Re: Mod thunderbird to avoid dupes (Re: Re: Too many Messages!!)
On 8/17/2018 5:53 PM, Artek Manuals
manuals@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
?
Chris that is a function of your ISP NOT your email
client
These were not duplicated emails.? There are several internal tags
which are unique to every message,? X-UIDL? for instance which is
from the sending end.? So you have a bit of? a chore trying to
filter these duplicates.? Unless you look @ some of the yahoo groups
meta tags, which are duplicated, there is enough that the duplicate
scanners I have on Thunderbird find them to all be unique.
The storm of duplicates seems to have abated, or I'd not send this.
Also FWIW, I sent a reply during the storm of 3 to 8 duplicates, via
the web interface.? Only a single copy showed up.? I am thinking
that the problem was when one did replies to email postings, which
goes to the hp_agilent_equipment address was failing, internal to
yahoo.
I saw this occurring on the PBY group, by the way, but it is a very
low volume group, so no real problems for them in numbers of junk.
thanks
Jim
On 8/17/2018 8:22 PM, N9LLO@... [hp_agilent_equipment]
wrote:
>
> My 25 year old aol email address gets no duplicates
an little spam
> Chris
>
> > On Aug 17, 2018, at 8:14 PM, Artek Manuals
manuals@...
> [hp_agilent_equipment]
wrote:
> >
> > * Turns out there are other choices for this
setting besides "0" and "1"
> > * 0 - this is the default value. It retrieves
duplicate mails like
> > normal mails.
> > * 1 - if you set the value to 1 duplicate mails
will be deleted
> > automatically once retrieved
> > * 2 - if you set the value to 2 duplicated mails
will be moved right
> > into the trash
> > * 3 - the value 3 finally marks duplicate mails
as read
> >
> > If you want to delete duplicate mails
automatically in Thunderbird you
> > set the value 1.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/17/2018 6:50 PM, Roger Rehr W3SZ
w3sz@...
> > [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
> >> For Windows 10 with Thunderbird 52.9.1:
> >>
> >> Hamburger >> Options >>? Options
>> Config Editor >> ""I accept the
> risk" >>
> >>
> >> See:
> >>
> >> Then, as Chuck said,
> >>
> >> scroll to mail.server.default.dup_action
> >>
> >> right click
> >>
> >> Select modify
> >>
> >> Change 0 to 1
> >>
> >> Click "OK"
> >>
> >> etc.
> >>
> >> In my experience, common practice is that
"Click" is assumed to mean
> >> "Left Click" unless preceded by "Right".
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Roger
> >> W3SZ
> >>
> >> On 8/17/2018 6:26 PM, Artek Manuals
manuals@...
> >> [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
> >>> Yes I have an edit pull down menu . No
Options or preferences
> listed as
> >>> a choice there anymore in the WIN
version
> >>>
> >>> Nowhere ( so far in the windows 60
version ) under EDIT,? or the
> >>> hamburger Icon does the word preferences
appear.? There is an OPTION
> >>> choice under TOOLS but no choices under
that I
> see for
> >>> filtering dupes
> >>>
> >>> Without getting into a windows vs Linux
debate the two versions are
> >>> clearly different . Thank you Chuck
& Dave for attempting to assist
> >>> although apparently the Linux version
has at least one feature ( not
> >>> surprisingly) that differs from the
WINDOWS version
> >>>
> >>> The multi message problem seems to have
gone away today....even if it
> >>> hadn't it has taken me less time to hit
the key than
> searching for
> >>> Alice in this "PREFERENCES" rabbit hole
:-P
> >>>
> >>> -DC
> >>> manuals@...
> >>>
> >>> On 8/17/2018 6:05 PM, Dave McGuire
Mcguire@...
> >>> [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
> >>>> "Preferences" has been there since
v1.0, fifteen years ago. It's got
> >>>> to be there somewhere. Do you have
an "Edit" pull-down menu?
> >>>>
> >>>> -Dave
> >>>>
> >>>> On 08/17/2018 05:57 PM, Artek
Manuals [email protected]
> >>>> [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
> >>>>> Ahhhhhhh
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Running Version 60.0 here under
WIN10
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Still no "preferences"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 8/17/2018 5:15 PM, Dave
McGuire Mcguire@...
> >>>>> [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
> >>>>>> v52.9.1, 64-bit build,
Linux.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Dave
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 08/17/2018 05:12 PM,
`Richard Knoppow dickburk@...
> >>>>>> [hp_agilent_equipment]
wrote:
> >>>>>>> Which version do you
have?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 8/17/2018 2:05 PM,
Dave McGuire Mcguire@...
> >>>>>>> [hp_agilent_equipment]
wrote:
> >>>>>>>> In my installation,
the "Preferences" choice is near the
> bottom of the
> >>>>>>>> "Edit" pull-down
menu.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Yahoo Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Dave
> > Manuals@...
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast
antivirus software.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> > Posted by: Artek Manuals
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
--
Dave
Manuals@...
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Richard
I finally found it once I knew I was supposed to modifying a single line in the configuration editor.??? But unless you know what your looking for that can be a bit daunting as there are??? over 3000 "configuration" settings ( well I quit counting a 2500 ) in the configuration editor !!!
Dont get me wrong I love Thunderbird but getting into the nitty gritty is a walk in the jungle in the dark
Dave NR1DX manuals@...
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On 8/17/2018 3:59 PM, `Richard Knoppow dickburk@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote: I think it depends on how you have the task bar configured. I am running T bird 60.0, which I believe is the latest. On this version, on the task bar, Click on "Tools" Then click on "Options" At the top of the "Options" window is a row of ikons, Click on "Advanced" Near the bottom right will be a button for "Config Editor" click on that. It will open the Configuration Editor which will show a list of the settings that can be changed. You can scroll down to the one you want or enter it in the "Search" window at the top, which will take you to it. Click on the choice to highlight it. Then right click which will open a pull down menu of choices. You can use "Toggle" to change the setting from 0 to 1 which will activate it. Then close the editor. Its probably a good idea to close Thunderbird and re-open it.
On 8/17/2018 12:17 PM, Chuck Harris cfharris@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
1) Click on the three bar thingy off on the right that says "Display the Thunderbird Menu" when you hover over it. 2) From the menu, click on "Preferences" 3) From the preferences screen click on "Advanced" 4) On the advanced screen click on "Config Editor" It will say some malarky about voiding your warranty, click on I accept the risk, and it will open a window About:config 5) In the search bar at the top of about:config, type: "mail.server.default.dup_action"
Right click on that entry, and select modify from the menu.
Modify it, and do the usual close save stuff.
-Chuck Harris
Gedas w8bya@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Hi there can you tell me where specifically in Thunderbird this setting is? I have spent 15 min looking under my "tools/options" & acct settings etc and keep over looking it. TU
mail.server.default.dup_action
Gedas, W8BYA
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Re: Mod thunderbird to avoid dupes (Re: Re: Too many Messages!!)
Chris that is a function of your ISP NOT your email client
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On 8/17/2018 8:22 PM, N9LLO@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote: My 25 year old aol email address gets no duplicates an little spam Chris
On Aug 17, 2018, at 8:14 PM, Artek Manuals manuals@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:
* Turns out there are other choices for this setting besides "0" and "1" * 0 - this is the default value. It retrieves duplicate mails like normal mails. * 1 - if you set the value to 1 duplicate mails will be deleted automatically once retrieved * 2 - if you set the value to 2 duplicated mails will be moved right into the trash * 3 - the value 3 finally marks duplicate mails as read
If you want to delete duplicate mails automatically in Thunderbird you set the value 1.
On 8/17/2018 6:50 PM, Roger Rehr W3SZ w3sz@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
For Windows 10 with Thunderbird 52.9.1:
Hamburger >> Options >>? Options >> Config Editor >> ""I accept the risk" >>
See:
Then, as Chuck said,
scroll to mail.server.default.dup_action
right click
Select modify
Change 0 to 1
Click "OK"
etc.
In my experience, common practice is that "Click" is assumed to mean "Left Click" unless preceded by "Right".
73,
Roger W3SZ
On 8/17/2018 6:26 PM, Artek Manuals manuals@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Yes I have an edit pull down menu . No Options or preferences
listed as
a choice there anymore in the WIN version
Nowhere ( so far in the windows 60 version ) under EDIT,? or the hamburger Icon does the word preferences appear.? There is an OPTION choice under TOOLS but no choices under <TOOLS><OPTIONS> that I
see for
filtering dupes
Without getting into a windows vs Linux debate the two versions are clearly different . Thank you Chuck & Dave for attempting to assist although apparently the Linux version has at least one feature ( not surprisingly) that differs from the WINDOWS version
The multi message problem seems to have gone away today...even if it hadn't it has taken me less time to hit the <DEL> key than
searching for
Alice in this "PREFERENCES" rabbit hole :-P
-DC manuals@...
On 8/17/2018 6:05 PM, Dave McGuire Mcguire@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
"Preferences" has been there since v1.0, fifteen years ago. It's got to be there somewhere. Do you have an "Edit" pull-down menu?
-Dave
On 08/17/2018 05:57 PM, Artek Manuals [email protected] [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Ahhhhhhh
Running Version 60.0 here under WIN10
Still no "preferences"
On 8/17/2018 5:15 PM, Dave McGuire Mcguire@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
v52.9.1, 64-bit build, Linux.
-Dave
On 08/17/2018 05:12 PM, `Richard Knoppow dickburk@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Which version do you have?
On 8/17/2018 2:05 PM, Dave McGuire Mcguire@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
In my installation, the "Preferences" choice is near the
bottom of the
"Edit" pull-down menu.
------------------------------------
------------------------------------
------------------------------------
Yahoo Groups Links
-- Dave Manuals@... www.ArtekManuals.com
--- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
------------------------------------ Posted by: Artek Manuals <Manuals@...> ------------------------------------
------------------------------------
Yahoo Groups Links
-- Dave Manuals@... www.ArtekManuals.com
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Re: Mod thunderbird to avoid dupes (Re: Re: Too many Messages!!)
My 25 year old aol email address gets no duplicates an little spam Chris
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Show quoted text
On Aug 17, 2018, at 8:14 PM, Artek Manuals manuals@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:
* Turns out there are other choices for this setting besides "0" and "1" * 0 - this is the default value. It retrieves duplicate mails like normal mails. * 1 - if you set the value to 1 duplicate mails will be deleted automatically once retrieved * 2 - if you set the value to 2 duplicated mails will be moved right into the trash * 3 - the value 3 finally marks duplicate mails as read
If you want to delete duplicate mails automatically in Thunderbird you set the value 1.
On 8/17/2018 6:50 PM, Roger Rehr W3SZ w3sz@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
For Windows 10 with Thunderbird 52.9.1:
Hamburger >> Options >>? Options >> Config Editor >> ""I accept the risk" >>
See:
Then, as Chuck said,
scroll to mail.server.default.dup_action
right click
Select modify
Change 0 to 1
Click "OK"
etc.
In my experience, common practice is that "Click" is assumed to mean "Left Click" unless preceded by "Right".
73,
Roger W3SZ
On 8/17/2018 6:26 PM, Artek Manuals manuals@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Yes I have an edit pull down menu . No Options or preferences listed as a choice there anymore in the WIN version
Nowhere ( so far in the windows 60 version ) under EDIT,? or the hamburger Icon does the word preferences appear.? There is an OPTION choice under TOOLS but no choices under <TOOLS><OPTIONS> that I see for filtering dupes
Without getting into a windows vs Linux debate the two versions are clearly different . Thank you Chuck & Dave for attempting to assist although apparently the Linux version has at least one feature ( not surprisingly) that differs from the WINDOWS version
The multi message problem seems to have gone away today...even if it hadn't it has taken me less time to hit the <DEL> key than searching for Alice in this "PREFERENCES" rabbit hole :-P
-DC manuals@...
On 8/17/2018 6:05 PM, Dave McGuire Mcguire@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
"Preferences" has been there since v1.0, fifteen years ago. It's got to be there somewhere. Do you have an "Edit" pull-down menu?
-Dave
On 08/17/2018 05:57 PM, Artek Manuals manuals@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Ahhhhhhh
Running Version 60.0 here under WIN10
Still no "preferences"
On 8/17/2018 5:15 PM, Dave McGuire Mcguire@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
v52.9.1, 64-bit build, Linux.
-Dave
On 08/17/2018 05:12 PM, `Richard Knoppow dickburk@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Which version do you have?
On 8/17/2018 2:05 PM, Dave McGuire Mcguire@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
In my installation, the "Preferences" choice is near the bottom of the "Edit" pull-down menu.
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------------------------------------
Yahoo Groups Links
-- Dave Manuals@... www.ArtekManuals.com
--- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
------------------------------------ Posted by: Artek Manuals <Manuals@...> ------------------------------------
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Re: Mod thunderbird to avoid dupes (Re: Re: Too many Messages!!)
* Turns out there are other choices for this setting besides "0" and "1" * 0 - this is the default value. It retrieves duplicate mails like normal mails. * 1 - if you set the value to 1 duplicate mails will be deleted automatically once retrieved * 2 - if you set the value to 2 duplicated mails will be moved right into the trash * 3 - the value 3 finally marks duplicate mails as read
If you want to delete duplicate mails automatically in Thunderbird you set the value 1.
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On 8/17/2018 6:50 PM, Roger Rehr W3SZ w3sz@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote: For Windows 10 with Thunderbird 52.9.1:
Hamburger >> Options >>? Options >> Config Editor >> ""I accept the risk" >>
See:
Then, as Chuck said,
scroll to mail.server.default.dup_action
right click
Select modify
Change 0 to 1
Click "OK"
etc.
In my experience, common practice is that "Click" is assumed to mean "Left Click" unless preceded by "Right".
73,
Roger W3SZ
On 8/17/2018 6:26 PM, Artek Manuals manuals@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Yes I have an edit pull down menu . No Options or preferences listed as a choice there anymore in the WIN version
Nowhere ( so far in the windows 60 version ) under EDIT,? or the hamburger Icon does the word preferences appear.? There is an OPTION choice under TOOLS but no choices under <TOOLS><OPTIONS> that I see for filtering dupes
Without getting into a windows vs Linux debate the two versions are clearly different . Thank you Chuck & Dave for attempting to assist although apparently the Linux version has at least one feature ( not surprisingly) that differs from the WINDOWS version
The multi message problem seems to have gone away today...even if it hadn't it has taken me less time to hit the <DEL> key than searching for Alice in this "PREFERENCES" rabbit hole :-P
-DC manuals@...
On 8/17/2018 6:05 PM, Dave McGuire Mcguire@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
"Preferences" has been there since v1.0, fifteen years ago. It's got to be there somewhere. Do you have an "Edit" pull-down menu?
-Dave
On 08/17/2018 05:57 PM, Artek Manuals manuals@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Ahhhhhhh
Running Version 60.0 here under WIN10
Still no "preferences"
On 8/17/2018 5:15 PM, Dave McGuire Mcguire@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
v52.9.1, 64-bit build, Linux.
-Dave
On 08/17/2018 05:12 PM, `Richard Knoppow dickburk@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Which version do you have?
On 8/17/2018 2:05 PM, Dave McGuire Mcguire@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
In my installation, the "Preferences" choice is near the bottom of the "Edit" pull-down menu.
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Re: How the transition from Yahoo to groups.io will take place - exa
Dave... Thanks for your efforts to improve life for all on this group. I'm sure it is a time consuming endeavor. If the service had to be down for even a week, no one on this list is going to die as a result so I would hope that there would be no griping to be heard about that. Finally, if Yahoo isn't supporting groups like this anymore, why would they bother to make it difficult to 'slurp' data. I'd expect them to be glad to see lists go since they seem to have been working overtime to discourage users of their free service anyhow. This is a rhetorical question so I really don't want to see a bunch of (or even one) attempt at an uninformed explanation or opinion. It want add any value to the list nor fix any problems. Would merely degrade the signal to noise ratio. Onward,Dave!
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